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    The Savvy Sauce

    Do you want ideas for questions to deepen your conversations? Do you want to feel intimately connected to your spouse? Do you desire to parent with purpose? If so, tune in each Monday with Laura, a licensed marriage and family therapist who specialized in Christian sex therapy. She interviews the best faith-based speakers to answer our questions and doesn’t shy away from a wide range of difficult topics. Sexual intimacy is discussed once a month so that you can delight in your marital relationship, feel equipped to teach your children about sex, and learn practical ways to overcome hurt or addiction. Episodes on health and wellness cover topics of hormones and free lifestyle swaps, perimenopause, and what simple practices yield HUGE health benefits. Marital experts teach conflict resolution that actually works, parenting pros share wisdom from newborns to adult children, business leaders let us in on secrets of the trade, and the foundation of everything is Jesus Christ!  Find joy here and live on purpose as you consider, “What’s your savvy sauce?!”

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    104 Sexual Desire Discrepancy in Marriage with Dr. Michael Sytsma May 18, 2020
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    *DISCLAIMER* This message contains adult themes and is not intended for little ears. 104. Sexual Desire Discrepancy in Marriage with Dr. Michael Sytsma **Transcription Below** Ephesians 4:2 (NIV) “Be completely humble and gentle; be patient, bearing with one another in love.” Dr. Michael Sytsma is a certified sex therapist, ordained minister, and co-founder of sexual wholeness. Dr. Mike has been working with couples in a variety of capacities since 1987. He currently works with Building Intimate Marriages in Atlanta, GA as he meets with clients, teaches, and speaks at various conferences. He and Karen have been married since 1985 and have two sons, Josiah and Caleb. Building Intimate Marriages Website Thank You to Our Sponsor: Samaritan Ministries Connect with The Savvy Sauce on Facebook or Instagram or Our Website Please help us out by sharing this episode with a friend, leaving a 5-star rating and review, and subscribing to this podcast! Just for Fun and Highly Recommended by Laura Lara Casey's Product: The Kid's Bundle (Write the Word for kids - have you seen this yet? It is awesome!!!) Lara Casey's 2020 6-months Powersheets...Not exaggerating: these are changing my life!!! Gospel Scripture: (all NIV) Romans 3:23 “for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,” Romans 3:24 “and are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus.” Romans 3:25 (a) “God presented him as a sacrifice of atonement, through faith in his blood.” Hebrews 9:22 (b) “without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness.” Romans 5:8 “But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us.” Romans 5:11 “Not only is this so, but we also rejoice in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received reconciliation.” John 3:16 “For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.” Romans 10:9 “That if you confess with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.” Luke 15:10 says “In the same way, I tell you, there is rejoicing in the presence of the angels of God over one sinner who repents.” Romans 8:1 “Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus” Ephesians 1:13–14 “And you also were included in Christ when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation. Having believed, you were marked in him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit, who is a deposit guaranteeing our inheritance until the redemption of those who are God’s possession- to the praise of his glory.” Ephesians 1:15–23 “For this reason, ever since I heard about your faith in the Lord Jesus and your love for all the saints, I have not stopped giving thanks for you, remembering you in my prayers. I keep asking that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the glorious Father, may give you the spirit of wisdom and revelation, so that you may know him better. I pray also that the eyes of your heart may be enlightened in order that you may know the hope to which he has called you, the riches of his glorious inheritance in the saints, and his incomparably great power for us who believe. That power is like the working of his mighty strength, which he exerted in Christ when he raised him from the dead and seated him at his right hand in the heavenly realms, far above all rule and authority, power and dominion, and every title that can be given, not only in the present age but also in the one to come. And God placed all things under his feet and appointed him to be head over everything for the church, which is his body, the fullness of him who fills everything in every way.” Ephesians 2:8–10 “For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith – and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God – not by works, so that no one can boast. For we are God‘s workmanship, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do.“ Ephesians 2:13 “But now in Christ Jesus you who once were far away have been brought near through the blood of Christ.“ Philippians 1:6 “being confident of this, that he who began a good work in you will carry it on to completion until the day of Christ Jesus.” **Transcription** [00:00:00] <music> Laura Dugger: Welcome to The Savvy Sauce, where we have practical chats for intentional living. I'm your host Laura Dugger, and I'm so glad you're here. [00:00:18] <music> Laura Dugger: Today's message is not intended for little ears. We'll be discussing some adult themes, and I want you to be aware before you listen to this message. Samaritan Ministries is a biblical way to help your family and care for your brothers and sisters in Christ. Every month, Samaritan members help one another with their medical needs by praying for and providing financial support. You can learn more at SamaritanMinistries.org. Dr. Michael Sytsma, as you may recall, is a certified sex therapist and ordained minister. He also was my professor in graduate school, and I count it a huge blessing to continue learning from him and his contribution to this field. Today, he's going to update us on underlying reasons we are distressed with our spouse when we have differing levels of sexual desire in marriage. Here's our chat. [00:01:18] Welcome to The Savvy Sauce, Dr. Sytsma. Dr. Michael Sytsma: Thank you very much. I'm really honored to be here again. Laura Dugger: Well, all of our listeners have probably met you multiple times on our previous episodes, but will you tell us what you've been up to professionally since our last recorded conversation together? Dr. Michael Sytsma: Sure. A big part of what I do is providing counseling to couples and doing teaching at various graduate schools and to professionals and then to workshops and seminars. But the unique piece is 15 years ago, I completed my doctoral dissertation on sexual desire discrepancy in married couples and have just been really curious on what's going on with that. It's been 15 years. Is anything different? Is it still the same? So we went back and we re-looked at a lot of that data and asked a bunch of couples again to re-complete the survey, added a few questions, or just re-looking at the subject again. [00:02:19] Laura Dugger: Then from your findings, what has stayed the same over the years? Dr. Michael Sytsma: You know, when we start looking at the subject and what we're specifically looking at here is the discrepancy between husbands and wives and how frequently they want to engage sexually. Pretty much all couples, there's a discrepancy in it. And for many couples that causes distress or pain. For a few couples, it doesn't. But the thing that stayed consistent is it's still a major source of pain or distress if not one of the top major sources of distress for couples. We saw again that only a small number of couples actually are really pretty similar in their sexual desire. So I tell couples if you disagree on how frequently you're going to engage sexually, that makes you normal. That's a primary that couples are going to disagree. For most couples, right around 80%, and this has been validated in cross-cultural studies, the husband tends to have the highest level of sexual drive. [00:03:29] The numbers were a little lower with that. Still, the husbands are the highest drive for most couples. Then the same thing as we found last time, both husbands and wives are still reporting that they desire sex more frequently than it's actually happening. So whether you're the high-desire spouse or the low-desire spouse, they're pretty consistently saying sex isn't occurring as often as they would like for it to. So those would be the consistent things that we've seen that showed up again and redoing the data 15 years later. Laura Dugger: Wow. I think that last thing you said really stands out. Were couples able to give any explanations why they were not engaging as often as they both wanted to? Dr. Michael Sytsma: That's actually the question that we want to get couples to. Often when couples, for example, come into my office, the high-desire individual, whether that be the husband or the wife, is pretty frustrated at the low-desire individual because they feel like what they're wanting is being held captive by the lower-desire spouse. [00:04:37] And when I start asking them how frequently they would actually like to engage versus how frequently they are engaging, it comes out pretty consistent with what we found in the surveying. For example, a husband is most likely to tell me, at least in the office, he'd like to have sex two to three times a week, sometimes three to four, but most often two to three times a week. Most wives tell me that they would like to engage sexually one to two times a week. I point to them and say, there's not a lot of difference between two and two, that he's on the higher end of it, she's on the lower end of that. But then when I ask them how frequently it's happening, it's rarely that often. Usually, the high-desire person will look at the low-desire spouse and say, "Wait, if you want it more than what we're having it, why aren't we having it?" I usually interrupt them at that point and say, "That's the important question." Not why are you withholding it from me, or not even why don't you want as much as I do. [00:05:37] It's, why aren't either of us getting as much as what we would like. And that's where we get into things that are actually solvable and doable for the couple. Maybe she says, "I'm just too tired. There's too much on my plate. I don't have the energy for that at the end of the day." Or "I don't feel like you've connected with me for the entire week." Or he might say, "I just don't feel honored by you. It's tough to want to reach out to somebody who I feel like they've screamed at me all week." They start to get down to what's really in the way, and it's not the other person's desire. It's something that's almost always very solvable. Laura Dugger: Do you find that until they come into the office, they're not typically engaging in these conversations themselves to be able to problem solve? Dr. Michael Sytsma: When couples come into the office, no matter what the sexual problem is, the number one thing we find is they have not really adequately talked about it. [00:06:37] They probably have screamed about it, they've yelled about it, they've held each other in contempt about it, but they haven't sat down and really explored with each other. Couples can be married 30, 40, 50 years, and they come into my office, and we start asking questions about their sexual life and their sexual interest and their sexual experience. And very consistently couples look up and say, "We've never heard this from each other. We've never had these kind of discussions." Even as simple as, how do you like me to seduce you, is not a question that many couples have asked. And that very much comes into play with the desire piece. Just not asking what would you like and how would you like for it to be? How often would you like it to be really erotic? How often would you like it to be just soft and tender? How often would you like it to be nurturing? There are different items on the menu, and couples rarely have talked about that level of desire. [00:07:36] Laura Dugger: Would you say that it's also only possible to start having healthy conversations about this with a third party? Or are there certain things that people could attempt at home that you would recommend? Dr. Michael Sytsma: Well, I think there's plenty of ways that couples can get started with it and doing a lot of that at home. The number one exercise that I give to couples that are just getting started is to pick up a good quality Christian book on sexuality or a good quality educational book on sexuality, to read it out loud to each other. I tell them the goal is not to get to the end of the book. But the goal is to read a couple of paragraphs and then ask each other, what do you think? And to take turns in who's doing the reading. And what happens is they hear themselves using the language, they hear themselves saying the words with each other, and then it prompts discussion. They can look and say, Well, I don't think anybody is like this, really. I've had times when the spouse has asked that. [00:08:38] And the other has looked at them and said, "No, that's me all the time." It gives a foundation for them to start. It is important that couples be able to just talk to each other about anything. If you can't talk about parenting or finances or the in-laws, you're probably not going to be able to talk about something as core and central as our sex life. But there are plenty of places that you can learn good communication skills. And that sets couples up to talk about it. I have on my website a working date exercise and several different sexual exercises that they can do during their working dates. Including one of them that is a sexual communication exercise that just helps couples to kind of begin talking to each other, even in terms of talking about what kind of language. All of that can be done by most couples at home. If it's gotten to the place that they're really already in gridlock, they're fighting, it escalates very quickly, then they probably need a third party to help draw the energy off of it, contain it, and help them to stay their best while they're talking. [00:09:46] But for the most part, couples can usually at least get started on all of this conversation at home. Laura Dugger: That's a great way of putting it. As we go back to your update on this study, I'm curious now on the other side, where have you seen the most changes in couples from your original dissertation? Dr. Michael Sytsma: So one of the things we did different is the last time we did what we call forced choice. Where we asked which of you is the higher desire individual in the marriage, the husband or the wife? And this time we gave an option for "same". We had a number of couples that actually chose "same". 16% of the husbands chose "same" and 13% of the wives said that they believed that they were about the same level of sexual desire. Then what we did is we asked them: how often would you like? [00:10:45] And we put that into a calculation that told us if the husband was the high desire, if the wife was the high desire, or if they were actually reporting the same numbers. And what we came up with was about 20% of the couples were reporting their desire being pretty much the same. It was actually 27%. That was interesting to us that almost 10% more couples calculated out as having the same level of desire than even believed. So our takeaway from that is couples probably are closer together than what they often realize. They begin to... we call it in our field, make attributions. They attribute things to each other that may not be fully true. So the higher desire individual might believe that their spouse has a lower desire than what actually is. Quite honestly, it looks like from the numbers that the men are the ones that tend to be missing it most often. [00:11:45] So we're probably underestimating our wife's actual desire. So leaning in and really understanding what is it. So we saw that a little bit last time, but the significant number of couples that are showing up as the same was kind of new in this redo of it. We did see that slightly fewer wives this time around believe that their…

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    103 Making Family Memories with Jessica Smartt May 11, 2020
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    103. Making Family Memories with Jessica Smartt **Transcription Below** Mark 10:45 (NIV) “For even the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give his life as a ransom for many.” Jessica Smartt is a former English teacher turned homeschooling mom of three. ESTJ. iPhone addict (in recovery). Anxiety overcomer. Allergy mom (only slightly neurotic). Loved by God, and wife to Mr. Fix Anything. She runs a mean 12-minute mile and can make just about anything dairy free. She is a passionate Christ-follower and has been published on The Huffington Post and has written an ebook on How To Introduce Your Child To Jesus. Jessica is passionate about helping moms to detach from the ever-present lure of technology (which can feel way more fun than parenting), about helping women recover from worry (been there, done that!) and about how to be a confident, purposeful homeschooling mom. At The Savvy Sauce, we will only recommend resources we believe in! We also want you to be aware: We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites. Memory Making Mom Let Them Be Kids Smartter Each Day Blog by Jessica Smartt Connect with Jessica Smartt on Instagram: @jessica.smartt What is a Family? by Edith Schaefer Read Aloud Revival Podcast with Sarah Mackenzie Thank You to Our Sponsor: Sam Leman Eureka Just for Fun and Highly Recommended by Laura Lara Casey's Product: The Kid's Bundle (Write the Word for kids - have you seen this yet? It is awesome!!!) Lara Casey's 2020 6-months Powersheets...Not exaggerating: these are changing my life!!! Connect with The Savvy Sauce on Facebook or Instagram or Our Website Please help us out by sharing this episode with a friend, leaving a 5-star rating and review, and subscribing to this podcast! Also, check out our Patreon Page to find out how to gain access to additional podcasts and freebies! Gospel Scripture: (all NIV) Romans 3:23 “for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,” Romans 3:24 “and are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus.” Romans 3:25 (a) “God presented him as a sacrifice of atonement, through faith in his blood.” Hebrews 9:22 (b) “without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness.” Romans 5:8 “But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us.” Romans 5:11 “Not only is this so, but we also rejoice in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received reconciliation.” John 3:16 “For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.” Romans 10:9 “That if you confess with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.” Luke 15:10 says “In the same way, I tell you, there is rejoicing in the presence of the angels of God over one sinner who repents.” Romans 8:1 “Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus” Ephesians 1:13–14 “And you also were included in Christ when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation. Having believed, you were marked in him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit, who is a deposit guaranteeing our inheritance until the redemption of those who are God’s possession- to the praise of his glory.” Ephesians 1:15–23 “For this reason, ever since I heard about your faith in the Lord Jesus and your love for all the saints, I have not stopped giving thanks for you, remembering you in my prayers. I keep asking that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the glorious Father, may give you the spirit of wisdom and revelation, so that you may know him better. I pray also that the eyes of your heart may be enlightened in order that you may know the hope to which he has called you, the riches of his glorious inheritance in the saints, and his incomparably great power for us who believe. That power is like the working of his mighty strength, which he exerted in Christ when he raised him from the dead and seated him at his right hand in the heavenly realms, far above all rule and authority, power and dominion, and every title that can be given, not only in the present age but also in the one to come. And God placed all things under his feet and appointed him to be head over everything for the church, which is his body, the fullness of him who fills everything in every way.” Ephesians 2:8–10 “For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith – and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God – not by works, so that no one can boast. For we are God‘s workmanship, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do.“ Ephesians 2:13 “But now in Christ Jesus you who once were far away have been brought near through the blood of Christ.“ Philippians 1:6 “being confident of this, that he who began a good work in you will carry it on to completion until the day of Christ Jesus.” **Transcription** [00:00:00] <music> Laura Dugger: Welcome to The Savvy Sauce, where we have practical chats for intentional living. I'm your host Laura Dugger, and I'm so glad you're here. [00:00:18] <music> Laura Dugger: The principles of honesty and integrity that Sam Leman founded his business on continue today, over 55 years later, at Sam Leman Chevrolet Buick in Eureka. Owned and operated by the Bertschi family, Sam Leman in Eureka appreciates the support they've received from their customers all over Central Illinois and beyond. Visit them today at LemanGM.com. If you're like me, you may appreciate inspiration for more memory-making with your family. Jessica Smartt is my guest today, and she's the author of Memory Making Mom. Her newest book is actually going to be released early on June 9th, and it's titled Let Them Be Kids, which is so perfect for this season. Today, we're going to discuss both books, and Jessica is going to share more details about how we can incorporate meaning into our family's lives by creating memories with the people in life who mean the most to us. [00:01:20] Here's our chat. Welcome to The Savvy Sauce, Jessica. Jessica Smartt: Thank you so much for having me. Laura Dugger: Will you just start us off by sharing more about yourself? Jessica Smartt: Yes. So I am a homeschooling mom of three and married to my husband Todd. We met in college leading Young Life, and we live in North Carolina. I guess something kind of unique about us is that we are about to move to a family farm. My parents bought a big plot of land, and so I will live there with my parents and my two sisters and ten cousins on this farm, which is kind of fun. I also write. I have Memory Making Mom, which came out a year ago, or so, and coming out very soon is Let Them Be Kids: Adventure, Boredom, Innocence, and Other Gifts Children Need. That's about all I have time for. Laura Dugger: That would take a lot of time, but I just want to gush for a moment. [00:02:20] I absolutely loved your book. I originally read Memory Making Mom over a year ago, and then as soon as everything happened with this COVID-19 situation, I pulled it back out. I just think that your book can be so helpful during all the stages of parenting. So thank you for creating that first inspiring resource. Jessica Smartt: Well, that's so wonderful to hear. I'm so glad that you enjoyed it. Laura Dugger: I know that you and I share the same Christian faith, and so I would just love to hear what you learned from Jesus and the Bible as it applies to memory-making. Jessica Smartt: I think that for me, I realized that the things that I want to do and long to do, I struggle to do in my own strength. And so I think where Jesus meets me is He helps me to be the mom that I want to be. The whole point is we're not perfect, and that's why He came. [00:03:20] So we'll never do it perfectly. And I wouldn't want someone to read the book and feel like they're behind, or they just can't do it, or, you know, that's great for you, but I can't kind of thing. Because I really believe that He calls us to do things, and then through His strength, He gives us the ability to do it. And if we fall flat, which I do all the time, He forgives us and helps us. So that's, I think, where He comes to me in that message. Laura Dugger: I love hearing the background. I do remember from your book when you were speaking about memory-making, you said Jesus knew it. On His last evening with His disciples, He didn't take them to the temple to squeeze in one last reading of the Torah. He didn't do one final whirlwind miracle healing tour. No. On Jesus' last evening with His friends, they ate dinner, a reclining, savoring sort of dinner. I think that was the foundation for your book that was so impressive. [00:04:20] You taught us that we could just be intentional with things that we're already doing and create these unbelievable memories. So before we dive into all the ways that we can practically create memories, can you first teach us how we can accept that the effort required for memory-making is more valuable in the long run than the time we could have been doing something else? Jessica Smartt: Well, I think our own consciences tell us that. I think I referenced something about this, but when we lay our heads on the pillow at night, like, we intrinsically know what we were proud that we did, the things we feel good about in life. So I kind of feel like it's obvious to us. But I think also if we look back and think about who made an impact on us and what was most meaningful in our own childhoods, it wasn't somebody sitting on the corner watching TV, right? It was the people who got down on our level and played a game with us or taught us how to sew or took the time to make our favorite meal. [00:05:28] So we know that is meaningful. I think there's just so many distractions, even more than our parents and grandparents had. Laura Dugger: Definitely. And we are in such a unique time right now. So hopefully with our conversation today, we can kind of just weave in both books. Because I can't wait to get my hand on your newest resource, which hasn't been released yet. But can you just share how we could incorporate all these things that you've been studying from both books during this coronavirus season? Jessica Smartt: Yeah. It is really crazy. Honestly, God's timing, because I'll just tell you this. I had a two-book deal, and the topic of the second book was not determined and it was kind of a real struggle to land on it. I would go back and forth, you know, with the publisher, and we just couldn't quite get it right. Then when we finally... it was more like came back to Let Them Be Kids, which is what I had wanted to write all along. [00:06:29] We were running out of time, and it was a very quick turnaround. There was a lot of moments where I asked them, "Can we please push up the timing? Can you please give me more time? Let's sit in 2022 or, you know, whatever." And that didn't happen. But now going through it and realizing that this book is coming out during this time, it is such a wonderful confirmation to me that the Lord knew all along that this message would need to be in the world right now. I had no concept that there would be a global pandemic and we would be stuck in our houses, but I just felt really strongly that kids are being pushed in a lot of directions, and there's a lot of busyness and technology and push to be more mature than they are, and that we can just enjoy letting them be kids like we did when we were young and have that kind of childhood where we can just play and run. So the irony is now we have so much time, more time than we want to a) make memories, and b) let them be kids. [00:07:33] But if you're like me, you know, I'm chomping at the bit to kind of get back to normal, quote-unquote, but I think what I've realized is that this is a horrible thing. I feel terrible for the families who have been impacted, but for many of us who are just kind of in hold right now, we've been given an incredible gift, and that gift is time. And we have time, and our children have time. And so we can invest in them and make memories together, even though it will look different than we thought it would prior to 2020. But we also have time to let them just be their little beautiful selves and make mud soup and go pretend fishing and learn to whittle. I could go on and on. And I know these things have happened in homes all over. So I guess it's just a matter of parents realizing that this is the beauty of this time. So it's not fun, it's not maybe the Disney vacation we had planned, but we can still be intentional and make memories that our kids may look back, honestly, and really treasure this time because of all of the memories that they've made in the family time, basically. [00:08:40] Laura Dugger: Well, I couldn't agree more with what you're sharing. One memory that most of us can do right now is share a meal together. So will you explain your perspective on how sharing a meal bonds us? Jessica Smartt: Well, it's experiencing beauty together. I think before I really invested a lot of time into memory making, because there really was a large chunk of time that I was just kind of surviving, and I was just making normal boring meals and not really trying very hard, that's not really an experience that you're having together. It's just kind of sufficing. But when I started exploring with... and I'm still not like the best chef ever, but trying to make new things and really investing into things that people like and making the table look pretty, I mean it's almost like you can't even explain it, but it's just this whole sense in the room that like we're having something special together. [00:09:39] So during this time, I think food can be even more meaningful, which is probably why people are making all those jokes about gaining weight during the quarantine, because it's like one of the pleasures that we can still enjoy. So it is more meaningful, I think, to our kids than during real crazy busy seasons. I've tried to just make some special desserts, and we sit down a little bit longer and we have a couple meals that are like our staple, we enjoy every week, such as our Saturday morning pancakes. And so for sure those are not going anywhere. That becomes even more special because it's like one of the small things we can do each week together that's really fun. Laura Dugger: I'll probably just sprinkle some of your quotes throughout this talk, just ones that I had jotted down that were meaningful or inspiring. But you had said, "As we sip, savor, sample, and are satisfied, the mood changes. Food makes people happy, and happy people bond." [00:10:41] And now a brief message from our sponsor. Sponsor: Sam Leman Chevrolet Buick in Eureka has been owned and operated by the Bertschi family for over 25 years. A lot has changed in the car business since Sam and Stephen's grandfather, Sam Leman, opened his first Chevrolet dealership over 55 years ago. If you visit their dealership today, though, you'll find that not everything has changed. They still operate their dealership like their grandfather did, with honesty and integrity. Sam and Stephen understand that you have many different choices in where you buy or service your vehicle. This is why they do everything they can to make the car-buying process as easy and hassle-free as possible. They are thankful for the many lasting friendships that began with a simple, welcome to S…

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    102 Sustainable Health & Nutrition with Molly Pflederer and Ryan Parnham May 04, 2020
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    102. Sustainable Health & Nutrition with Molly Pflederer and Ryan Parnham **Transcription Below** 1 Corinthians 10:31 (ESV) “So, whether you eat or drink, or whatever you do, do all to the glory of God.” Molly Pflederer is a 38 year old mother of 3 and has been married for 16 years. As a trained holistic health coach and graduate from the Institute of Integrative Nutrition, Molly is passionate about helping others feel their best and find purpose. She has always been passionate about health and fitness, but grew increasingly more intentional when she found her health in a bad state. She was experiencing daily headaches, body/joint pain, extreme fatigue, brain fog, and digestive issues. With 3 kids under the age of 4 at home, she was miserable but couldn’t simply lay in bed. Then, the depression started to set in. After years of useless doctor visits and unexplained symptoms, she searched to find a different way. Hope was finally found through a more holistic approach to health, where simple daily changes made a huge impact. She experienced first hand how food can be medicine, and that it truly affects the way you feel on a daily basis; both mentally and physically. Molly firmly believes life shouldn’t be about restriction, rather balance; learning how to enjoy the things you love in moderation and having a healthy relationship with food! Not using food as a crutch, rather as fuel to nourish our bodies in the best way possible. Following the 80/20 principle can bring so much freedom to enjoy dinner out with friends, birthday parties, holidays and those fun ice cream runs with family and friends! Knowing you don’t have to be a slave to your decisions, yet make conscious choices that will benefit your long term health. Ryan Parnham is a 40-year-old husband and father from the Midwest. He works as a nurse practitioner and has been practicing for over 12 years. He is a certified Primal Health Coach and has also completed additional training with the Institute for Functional Medicine. His passion is living with meaning and purpose while achieving and maintaining good health for life. Ryan has been a health and wellness expert for many years and believes the path to good health does not need to be complicated and should be approached with both balance and common sense. Ryan found himself overweight and out of shape in his early 20’s and, since then, has dedicated his life to reversing this pattern by achieving and maintaining great health. He is not a fan of fad diets, exercises or supplements and develops his approach based off of what he calls “the four key elements” to health: nutrition, sleep, movement and stress. He loves helping and coaching others on their journey to better health and vitality. Equip For Health Website Article on Gluttony with John Piper Ryan and Molly’s Recommended Recipes: Protein Power balls Egg muffin bites (Easy breakfast) Thank You to Our Sponsors: Samaritan Ministries and Clearly Filtered Use Discount Code "SavvyWaterFilters" to get 20% off your first purchase. Limit 1 per customer, please :) Connect with The Savvy Sauce on Facebook or Instagram or Our Website Please help us out by sharing this episode with a friend, leaving a 5-star rating and review, and subscribing to this podcast! Gospel Scripture: (all NIV) Romans 3:23 “for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,” Romans 3:24 “and are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus.” Romans 3:25 (a) “God presented him as a sacrifice of atonement, through faith in his blood.” Hebrews 9:22 (b) “without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness.” Romans 5:8 “But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us.” Romans 5:11 “Not only is this so, but we also rejoice in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received reconciliation.” John 3:16 “For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.” Romans 10:9 “That if you confess with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.” Luke 15:10 says “In the same way, I tell you, there is rejoicing in the presence of the angels of God over one sinner who repents.” Romans 8:1 “Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus” Ephesians 1:13–14 “And you also were included in Christ when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation. Having believed, you were marked in him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit, who is a deposit guaranteeing our inheritance until the redemption of those who are God’s possession- to the praise of his glory.” Ephesians 1:15–23 “For this reason, ever since I heard about your faith in the Lord Jesus and your love for all the saints, I have not stopped giving thanks for you, remembering you in my prayers. I keep asking that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the glorious Father, may give you the spirit of wisdom and revelation, so that you may know him better. I pray also that the eyes of your heart may be enlightened in order that you may know the hope to which he has called you, the riches of his glorious inheritance in the saints, and his incomparably great power for us who believe. That power is like the working of his mighty strength, which he exerted in Christ when he raised him from the dead and seated him at his right hand in the heavenly realms, far above all rule and authority, power and dominion, and every title that can be given, not only in the present age but also in the one to come. And God placed all things under his feet and appointed him to be head over everything for the church, which is his body, the fullness of him who fills everything in every way.” Ephesians 2:8–10 “For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith – and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God – not by works, so that no one can boast. For we are God‘s workmanship, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do.“ Ephesians 2:13 “But now in Christ Jesus you who once were far away have been brought near through the blood of Christ.“ Philippians 1:6 “being confident of this, that he who began a good work in you will carry it on to completion until the day of Christ Jesus.” **Transcription** [00:00:00] <music> Laura Dugger: Welcome to The Savvy Sauce, where we have practical chats for intentional living. I'm your host Laura Dugger, and I'm so glad you're here. [00:00:17] <music> Laura Dugger: One of our sponsors today is Clearly Filtered. Discover their options online at clearlyfiltered.com/savvywaterfilters. Each customer can enter Savvy Water Filters at checkout to receive 20% off your first purchase. In the midst of a healthcare crisis, you don't have to feel isolated and alone. Samaritan Ministries connects Christians who support each other through prayer, encouragement, and financial support for medical needs. Learn more at SamaritanMinistries.org. We get to chat with two health coaches who happen to be local to central Illinois, but have an online platform and online course where they're able to coach people from anywhere in the world. Ryan Parnham and Molly Pflederer are going to share actionable steps for intentional and sustainable results in your health journey. [00:01:22] We also chat about health in the broader sense, as it's a stewardship issue. They have an interesting perspective, how to know if a lack of or over-focus on our health is actually becoming an idol. Here's our chat. Welcome to The Savvy Sauce, Molly and Ryan. Ryan Parnham: Hey, we're super excited to be here. Thanks for having us. Laura Dugger: Let's begin with you both sharing more about yourselves and what qualifies you both to coach individuals through their health journey. Molly Pflederer: Well, hello, I'm Molly and I am a health coach. I'm a graduate of the Institute of Integrative Nutrition. I suffered from my own chronic poor health in my late 20s and early 30s. After years of searching for answers and going through unexplained health symptoms, doctor visits, ER visits, and just kind of a lot of wasted time — I had three young kids at the time and I was just always kind of feeling like I had the flu — I started looking for alternative options to begin to feel better. Because this went on for a couple of years. [00:02:27] I started looking into diet and lifestyle and different avenues to change my health. Thankfully, I found some answers and then later on went through some education and training to become a health coach so I could help others. Laura Dugger: Wow, that's incredible. I'm sure that was a really trying journey to go through. Would you be willing to elaborate a little bit more on what they did find? Molly Pflederer: Yeah. You know, my kids were... I had a newborn and a one-and-a-half-year-old and a three-year-old and I just felt sick all the time. You know, it's normal to be tired and run down after having that many children and that many close of time span, but I just constantly felt sick. I had headaches and nausea and body aches. I couldn't get past like one o'clock in the day without just feeling just terrible. So I started digging in and just found I had some different food sensitivities. The inflammation in my body was elevated and just started going through a process to see what foods those were. [00:03:32] It took some time and some food elimination and trial and error and learning. You know, over the course of about a year, I really found some answers and what foods I needed to avoid. It was a big learning process. But I learned so much. I started feeling better and that gave me the motivation to keep going. Laura Dugger: Awesome. Thank you for sharing. Ryan, what about you? Ryan Parnham: Hi, I'm Ryan. I'm a married father of two and I've been in the healthcare industry for almost 20 years now. Started out as a nurse and then went back to school, got my master's degree and I've been working as a nurse practitioner now for almost 13 years. That's my full-time gig. I'm also a certified health coach as well through the Primal Health Coach Institute. Really had a kind of a lifelong interest in health and wellness. But despite that, my early 20s, I kind of got out of hand with me, with going through college, getting married at an early age, and just not making the greatest choices with my eating habits and all that kind of stuff. [00:04:40] So by the time I was about, I don't know, 21 or 22 years of age, I found myself significantly overweight and out of shape. I just didn't want to be like that and feel like that. You know, working in healthcare, you see what happens to people over many years that don't take care of themselves. I think I was about 23 years old and I vowed, you know, I'm going to spend the rest of my life just trying to make myself the healthiest version of myself that I can be and also just continuing to research, study, so I can help others become healthy as well. I've also completed training with the Institute for Functional Medicine. So I'd say I have a pretty, you know, well-rounded approach and a lot of education from different various sources. Laura Dugger: Both have fascinating stories. I love to start with the end in mind. So how would you both encourage us that it is a worthwhile pursuit to gain great health? [00:05:41] Molly Pflederer: You know, when I'm working with other people or just talking with a family member or a close friend, I think it's easy to want to be on the fast track. You know, everybody wants quick, rapid results or wants to feel better faster. And really it does take time and being patient. And just looking at it with the perspective that, you know, whatever position you're in, you didn't get there overnight. And it's going to take some time. When we feel good, we are better people in society. I mean, I know for myself, I'm a better mom, I'm a better wife, better friend. And when I went through those days of not feeling well, I was grouchy and irritable. It just didn't allow me to be the best version of myself and who God intended me to be. So I think keeping that in mind as well, just when we feel good, we do good and we just have more desire to be who God created us to be. I listened to a short podcast that John Piper was being interviewed on. [00:06:44] And it was really good. He referenced four warning signs that you might be going through that you might have a sinful relationship with food. I thought those were just really good to reflect on. He talked about when we become indifferent to the harmful effects that food has on our bodies, we just get to a place where we aren't even concerned about it. Number two, we become indifferent to the way we steward our money around food choices, which I think is something that we don't often think about either. Number three, we use food as an escape from our problems, kind of like using it as our medication for our sadness and our discomfort and just our day when we have stressful days. And last, he said that we stop enjoying food as a way of enjoying God and we stop tasting the goodness of God in our food. And we replace the goodness of God with food. I think that this is something I know in my own life that I have seen times where I've gone through that. Or, you know, even up until just last week, days that my kids are driving me crazy or stressful things happening with work or spouse. [00:07:46] And it's just you find yourself gravitating towards those poor choices. So I think keeping your relationship with food in check and your contentment in God I think is something to be cognizant of. Ryan Parnham: Yeah, I agree with everything Molly said. It can be uncomfortable to talk about, but there's some sins that are really easy to pick out: lying, the cheating, the stealing, the idolizing money, sexual sins, materialism, you know, whatever. The list can go on and on. But really I feel that not taking care of our bodies that God has gifted us with can also be a sin. Because if you're not feeling your best and you don't have energy and you don't feel like doing anything, then you're really not able to be the disciple that God puts you on this earth for. We can idolize food, laziness, comfort, whatever. It's really important to really take inventory and be honest with yourself about my honoring this body that God has given me. [00:08:46] And then really taking a very balanced approach to achieving great health. Because it's really easy to flip upside down and go from not taking care of yourself to now the pursuit of health becomes the idol. Molly and I have recognized that at periods of time in ourselves, too, where we've had to learn how to really approach health with a balance. Yeah, just knowing how to be honest with yourself in your current state of health and recognizing that a change needs to take place so you can be the best version of yourself. Laura Dugger: I appreciate that paradigm shift where you're teaching us that it can become idolatry on either side. I'd love for you to elaborate just a little bit more on warning signs of it becoming an idol of worshiping your health. Ryan Parnham: Sure. Well, there's probably quite a few warning signs, but I'd say some of the main ones are: it's something you're just constantly thinking about. You can't even enjoy time with your spouse or your kids because you're so worried about, you know, getting that workout in. [00:09:50] Or say it's a celebration of some sort. It's a birthday party and you feel guilty because you had a piece of cake. You know, you've been eating great all…

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    101 Turn Ons, Turn Offs, and Savoring Sex in Marriage with Dr. Jennifer Konzen Apr 27, 2020
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    *DISCLAIMER* This episode is intended for adults 101. Turn Ons, Turn Offs, and Savoring Sex in Marriage with Dr. Jennifer Konzen **Transcription Below** Song of Solomon 4:7 (AMP) “O my love, you are altogether beautiful and fair. There is no flaw nor blemish in you!" Dr. Jennifer Konzen is a certified sex therapist, award winning researcher, and international speaker who lives in San Diego, California. She and her husband Time have four kids. She has been a parent educator, a marriage, parenting, and sexuality seminar and conference speaker, and yes, a Broadway showtimes performer (her undergraduate degree is in Musical Theater and Vocal Performance). Dr. Jennifer Konzen’s Website Art of Intimate Marriage by Tim Konzen and Dr. Jennifer Konzen Redeemed Sexuality by Tim Konzen and Dr. Jennifer Konzen Intimate Marriage Cards by Tim Konzen and Dr. Jennifer Konzen ACT Worksheets Thank You to Our Sponsor: Samaritan Ministries Connect with The Savvy Sauce on Facebook or Instagram or Our Website Please help us out by sharing this episode with a friend, leaving a 5-star rating and review, and subscribing to this podcast! Gospel Scripture: (all NIV) Romans 3:23 “for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,” Romans 3:24 “and are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus.” Romans 3:25 (a) “God presented him as a sacrifice of atonement, through faith in his blood.” Hebrews 9:22 (b) “without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness.” Romans 5:8 “But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us.” Romans 5:11 “Not only is this so, but we also rejoice in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received reconciliation.” John 3:16 “For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.” Romans 10:9 “That if you confess with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.” Luke 15:10 says “In the same way, I tell you, there is rejoicing in the presence of the angels of God over one sinner who repents.” Romans 8:1 “Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus” Ephesians 1:13–14 “And you also were included in Christ when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation. Having believed, you were marked in him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit, who is a deposit guaranteeing our inheritance until the redemption of those who are God’s possession- to the praise of his glory.” Ephesians 1:15–23 “For this reason, ever since I heard about your faith in the Lord Jesus and your love for all the saints, I have not stopped giving thanks for you, remembering you in my prayers. I keep asking that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the glorious Father, may give you the spirit of wisdom and revelation, so that you may know him better. I pray also that the eyes of your heart may be enlightened in order that you may know the hope to which he has called you, the riches of his glorious inheritance in the saints, and his incomparably great power for us who believe. That power is like the working of his mighty strength, which he exerted in Christ when he raised him from the dead and seated him at his right hand in the heavenly realms, far above all rule and authority, power and dominion, and every title that can be given, not only in the present age but also in the one to come. And God placed all things under his feet and appointed him to be head over everything for the church, which is his body, the fullness of him who fills everything in every way.” Ephesians 2:8–10 “For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith – and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God – not by works, so that no one can boast. For we are God‘s workmanship, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do.“ Ephesians 2:13 “But now in Christ Jesus you who once were far away have been brought near through the blood of Christ.“ Philippians 1:6 “being confident of this, that he who began a good work in you will carry it on to completion until the day of Christ Jesus.” **Transcription** [00:00:00] <music> Laura Dugger: Welcome to The Savvy Sauce, where we have practical chats for intentional living. I'm your host, Laura Dugger, and I'm so glad you're here. [00:00:18] <music> Laura Dugger: Today's message is not intended for little ears. We'll be discussing some adult themes, and I want you to be aware before you listen to this message. Samaritan Ministries is a Biblical way to help your family and care for your brothers and sisters in Christ. Every month, Samaritan members help one another with their medical needs by praying for and providing financial support. You can learn more at SamaritanMinistries.org. Dr. Jennifer Konzen returns today as our three-peat guest. We are talking about sexual intimacy in the context of marriage, and we are planning to cover three themes: Turnoffs, turn-ons, and ways to enjoy sex more than we currently do. Here's our chat. Welcome back to The Savvy Sauce, Dr. Konzen. Dr. Jennifer Konzen: It's great to be here. [00:01:18] Laura Dugger: Well, you are a friend of The Savvy Sauce since the beginning. We're going to put a link in the show notes so everyone can easily click on our previous chats together. But for today, let's begin here. How did you decide to work in this field? Dr. Jennifer Konzen: Well, specifically in the field of sexuality, I was in the middle of getting my doctorate in psychology, and I took a required class on couples counseling. Most of the class was focused on intimacy, and I had to do an assignment. I had to interview a couple, and then I had to write and create an intervention for the couple. So the couple I interviewed had a hard time talking about sex openly. They had a good sexual relationship and a good marriage, just a hard time talking about it for various reasons. So I created this intervention, and I presented it in class, and my professor said, "That's your dissertation." [00:02:20] It became my dissertation, and it became what I studied for the next five years. Then I specialized in a certification for sex therapy. So it just rose out of a need to help people talk more openly around sexuality. So yeah, out of a class assignment. Go figure. Laura Dugger: Go figure. You are such an overachiever and a very naturally gifted communicator, so I can see where that opened up doors on your path. I know that you've had years of experience. So what have couples consistently told you is a turnoff, both for men and women? Dr. Jennifer Konzen: Well, the number one is conflict. The number one turnoff is when there's either been conflict ongoing in their relationship, and so therefore they're not wanting sexuality in any form or some forms, or the conflict just happened and it's unresolved. [00:03:26] So it doesn't sound like a typical turnoff in the sense of like, Ooh, your breath smells bad. And let me tell you, those come up too. You know, please shower, all of that. But the number one is the verbal, especially conflict. Now, it's interesting because I was sharing this with somebody, and they said that for them, talking about serious issues was a turnoff. And I said, "What do you mean?" And she said, "Well, when it becomes an argument." And I was like, "Yeah, that's exactly it." It's not the talking about the serious issue that's the problem. Like, let's say that happens, you know, 30 minutes before someone's going to have sex. It's the fact that that serious issue turns into some kind of conflict between them. Laura Dugger: Wow. And that's for men as well. Dr. Jennifer Konzen: Oh, by far. It's the number one thing that men should bring up and the number one thing that women bring up. I would say the men might word it differently. When she speaks in certain tones. In fact, the feeling of being demeaned in any way for men is on the larger scale. [00:04:29] And so that will come up in the argument when she uses certain phrases. Then anger for women. So they phrase it differently, but it's the same issue. Laura Dugger: Oh, that is interesting. I'm sure if women are critical or contemptuous, that would feel disrespectful and be a turnoff for a man. And then you mentioned anger. Are there any other topics that are considered turnoffs commonly? Dr. Jennifer Konzen: You know, it's really interesting as people do bring up things like body odor and breath and, you know, things that have to do with the five senses. You know, smell, touch, sight. So people will bring up concerns that their spouse has turned off by looking at their body. That comes up a lot. But as far as this turns me off, I would say 90% of the time what they're talking about is conflict. [00:05:32] So not the senses. They do talk about the senses in terms of what turns them on, but not as far as turnoffs. Not as often anyway. Laura Dugger: Okay. I want to go a little bit further with that just to clarify. So you're saying the husband or wife may be concerned about their own body image. Is that what you're saying? They're concerned about that with their spouse, but that's actually not what their spouse is saying is a turnoff. Dr. Jennifer Konzen: Correct. Now, they might individually in my office say, "I'm not attracted to my spouse and I think it affects my desire levels for sex." That happens. But honestly, that's pretty rare. It's usually the partner who feels like their partner thinks their body is unattractive that then affects their level of desire, interest, turn on for sex. So it's more the "I think you're thinking this." [00:06:31] Laura Dugger: That is profound. Let's stay on body image for just a moment. Most people are probably aware that body image affects sexual intimacy, but we often don't hear any details beyond that fact. So will you unpack this a little bit more and share specific body image struggles for both genders? Dr. Jennifer Konzen: Body image is a pretty big piece. Well, when we wrote our book, we dedicated a whole chapter to it for that reason, because self-consciousness in the midst of sexuality, self-consciousness about the body is known through research to cause all kinds of different challenges. It'll cause a challenge with sexual functioning itself. So that can be with erectile functioning as well as the ability to reach orgasm and experience arousal. And that self-consciousness becomes a withdrawal. So it affects the quality of the time together. And you would think it would just be a female thing. [00:07:33] It's not at all. The very, very first couple I did sex therapy with his was he had a lot of hair on his back and he would feel really self-conscious whenever she would touch his back. And hers was that she had extra weight on her body. So whenever he would touch her stomach, she would withdraw. And they had never talked about it ever. And just breaking that barrier of not being able to talk about it was really quite a shift for them. So, yeah, it comes up for men and women across the board. Laura Dugger: Would you say it affects around 100% of people or is that too strong? Dr. Jennifer Konzen: With the couples that I've seen, I've literally had probably two that just it wasn't an issue. And you would think these were the slim in shape couples. Yes. In one... no, probably three couples. Two of the couples, young, slim in shape, didn't even cross their minds. [00:08:31] But one of the couples was they were both obese, actually, and they both really enjoyed each other's bodies and never worried about it. So I've worked with people who are what you would consider, you know, on the front of a magazine, gorgeous, beautiful, both men and women. And the concern about body image isn't just for those who the world even might consider less attractive. In fact, those who would be considered on the high end of attractiveness have very strong concern about negative views of their own body. So it's pretty much across the board, across gender, and across even cultural barriers. Laura Dugger: Why do you think that is, that someone who may appear perfect in appearance to others, why are they the ones that often struggle with this shaming or critical self-talk? Dr. Jennifer Konzen: Well, it can come from super early on. I mean, it really almost isn't connected to what they look like as the person talking to me. Like, you know, here they are in their mid-20s, mid-30s and on that beautiful end of the scale, you know. [00:09:39] But the message is they've been getting their entire life either to themselves or from media or from their family are pretty strong. They've had, Oh, you know, make sure not to eat that messages since they were young. You know, they've watched their parents. Often what you'll have is women with their children, the moms are making comments about their own dieting and how they need to lose weight. So this child is hearing comments about other people's bodies. And so they're applying that to themselves at 8, 9, 10 years old. And then they're still applying at 20, 30 years old. So you've got family messages that are negative about their body or family messages that are negative about their own bodies or about someone else's body. It's very common for people to tell me about comments that their siblings or parents made about another sibling's body or somebody else's body as they were walking past them out in public. [00:10:36] So you've got family messages about the body, which is huge. And that even with somebody that maybe doesn't have any typical problems with weight, they're concerned about it because they've heard those messages for so long. Then you've definitely got the huge piece on media that can't even be measured how big that is. And then honestly, that message gets stamped in religious communities big time on this is more spiritual. And so, yeah, the negative view of the body is across the board. Laura Dugger: What you just said there at the end, what do you mean it gets stamped in religious communities? Dr. Jennifer Konzen: So you'll notice you'll get women sitting around a table at a church lunch and pay attention to what they're talking about. Across the board, you'll get lots of comments on what you call fat talk, which is that they're talking about their diets and that there's no calories in this food because you're not eating it with a fork. [00:11:32] So women will sit around even at a social function, including church functions, and they're having this conversation about their diets and what they're eating and how many calories are in things. This is happening everywhere. And then you've got zillions of websites that will connect thinness with spirituality. So that message gets stamped in workshops and lessons from the podium, during a sermon, on a website, in a book, that spirituality is connected to what your body looks like. Laura Dugger: Wow. So there are definitely some deep roots in these issues. And then I'm curious, how does that negative body image then affect our sexual desire and our sexual pleasure? Dr. Jennifer Konzen: The self-consciousness that happens makes it especially difficult. I would say it comes up the most with women. [00:12:32] It definitely comes up with men. But let me just explain it with women. So when women will have that message, they feel uncomfortable being naked in front of their husbands. They don't want to dress in front of their husbands. They don't…

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    100 The Story of Six Sisters' Stuff with Lauren Walker Apr 20, 2020
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    100. The Story of Six Sisters’ Stuff with Lauren Walker **Transcription Below** Proverbs 16:9 (NIV) “In his heart a man plans his course, but the LORD determines his steps.” Lauren Walker is the second youngest sister in the family that runs the blog Six Sisters' Stuff. She grew up in Utah and graduated from Utah State University where she studied Family Science, and went on to run the public relations and create content online with her sisters and their company. She married her best friend and moved out to Sacramento to start a new adventure with her husband and dog before welcoming their first baby last year. She loves working with her sisters, but her favorite thing to do at the end of the day is curl up on the couch with her husband and sweet baby boy, drink a diet coke, and binge watch Boy Meets World! At The Savvy Sauce, we will only recommend resources we believe in! We also want you to be aware: We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites. Six Sisters' Stuff Blog Six Sisters’ Menu Planning Website (Use Code SISTERS20 to get 20% Off) Connect on You Tube, Instagram, and Facebook: @sixsistersstuff Cookbooks by Six Sisters’ Stuff: Six Ingredients With Six Sisters’ Stuff Copycat Cooking With Six Sisters’ Stuff Dinner Made Easy With Six Sisters’ Stuff A Year With Six Sisters’ Stuff Healthy Eats With Six Sisters’ Stuff Six Sisters' Stuff 30 Minute Recipes Six Sisters' Stuff Simple One-Pan Dishes Six Sisters' Stuff: Family Recipes, Fun Crafts, and So Much More 12 Days of Christmas With Six Sisters’ Stuff Sweets & Treats With Six Sisters’ Stuff Celebrate Every Season With Six Sisters’ Stuff Book Mentioned: Letters to a Young Therapist by Mary Pipher Recommended Recipes and Links from Six Sisters Stuff: Slow Cooker Ritz Chicken 30 At Home Dates 8 Freezer Meals in One Hour Thank You to Our Sponsor: Equip for Health Connect with The Savvy Sauce on Facebook or Instagram or Our Website Please help us out by sharing this episode with a friend, leaving a 5-star rating and review, and subscribing to this podcast! Gospel Scripture: (all NIV) Romans 3:23 “for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,” Romans 3:24 “and are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus.” Romans 3:25 (a) “God presented him as a sacrifice of atonement, through faith in his blood.” Hebrews 9:22 (b) “without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness.” Romans 5:8 “But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us.” Romans 5:11 “Not only is this so, but we also rejoice in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received reconciliation.” John 3:16 “For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.” Romans 10:9 “That if you confess with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.” Luke 15:10 says “In the same way, I tell you, there is rejoicing in the presence of the angels of God over one sinner who repents.” Romans 8:1 “Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus” Ephesians 1:13–14 “And you also were included in Christ when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation. Having believed, you were marked in him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit, who is a deposit guaranteeing our inheritance until the redemption of those who are God’s possession- to the praise of his glory.” Ephesians 1:15–23 “For this reason, ever since I heard about your faith in the Lord Jesus and your love for all the saints, I have not stopped giving thanks for you, remembering you in my prayers. I keep asking that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the glorious Father, may give you the spirit of wisdom and revelation, so that you may know him better. I pray also that the eyes of your heart may be enlightened in order that you may know the hope to which he has called you, the riches of his glorious inheritance in the saints, and his incomparably great power for us who believe. That power is like the working of his mighty strength, which he exerted in Christ when he raised him from the dead and seated him at his right hand in the heavenly realms, far above all rule and authority, power and dominion, and every title that can be given, not only in the present age but also in the one to come. And God placed all things under his feet and appointed him to be head over everything for the church, which is his body, the fullness of him who fills everything in every way.” Ephesians 2:8–10 “For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith – and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God – not by works, so that no one can boast. For we are God‘s workmanship, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do.“ Ephesians 2:13 “But now in Christ Jesus you who once were far away have been brought near through the blood of Christ.“ Philippians 1:6 “being confident of this, that he who began a good work in you will carry it on to completion until the day of Christ Jesus.” **Transcription** [00:00:00] <music> Laura Dugger: Welcome to The Savvy Sauce, where we have practical chats for intentional living. I'm your host Laura Dugger, and I'm so glad you're here. [00:00:18] <music> Laura Dugger: Equip for Health is a health and wellness company that works with anyone who wants to achieve great health through simple, sustainable daily changes. They are passionate about improving health from the inside out and having a health journey that is both result-driven and enjoyable at the same time. Check them out today at EquipForHealth.com, and make sure you use the code SAVVY at checkout to save 10% on their online course. Lauren Walker is my guest today, and she is one of the six sisters who started the blog, Six Sisters' Stuff, almost 10 years ago. She's going to share how this cost-effective way to stay in touch with her family turned into a thriving business that now employs all of the sisters. You will also hear about a specific recipe you should try this week because it's so easy. [00:01:18] Lauren and I grew up in different states with differing backgrounds and faith, and I learned so much from her down-to-earth approach and kindness during our time together. Here's our chat. Welcome to the Savvy Sauce, Lauren. Lauren Walker: Thank you. I'm so happy to be here. Laura Dugger: I'd love to just start off by learning a little bit more about you. Lauren Walker: Okay. I am number five of all of the six sisters, which is a blog that I have with all my sisters and my mom. I have been married to my sweetheart for two years, and we live out in Sacramento, California. We have one baby boy. He's 10 months old, and I am just living out here, just working. My husband's job brought us out here, so we're living away from our family, but we're loving it. Right now, I'm just working. I work on the blog with my sisters, and I'm just trying to juggle being a new mom. Laura Dugger: Just to gain a bit more context, what was it like growing up as one of six sisters? [00:02:24] Lauren Walker: Probably just as you're imagining it. It was a lot of fun. There's 12 years between the oldest and the youngest sister, so we're all pretty close in age. At least now it feels like that. Growing up, it was a little bit different having sisters that were way older. It seemed so old being a senior in high school when I was eight years old and my younger sister was only six. Now that we're all in the same stage of life, it's a lot nicer. We feel a lot closer But growing up, it was just as you think it would be in a house of girls. We fought over the regular clothes and bathroom time and all of those things, but we all pretty much got along for the most part. It was a lot of fun. Our dad didn't have any sons, so he put us all in sports and tried to push us to be athletic and to be a little bit competitive. It was just a fun childhood. Our parents were just amazing and they did their best to keep us as a close family, which I think helped us a lot more than they would realize when we ended up all working together. [00:03:28] Now that we're all married and have kids, it's so fun to relate to each other and have people to reach out to for mom advice, making sure we're doing the right thing. I think I call my sisters like six times a day of like, Is it normal that my baby's only eating bananas or things like that? It's kind of fun to have just these built-in best friends and these best girlfriends to always talk to. Laura Dugger: I love hearing that and how close you are as adults. That's incredible. Looking back, how do you think your parents were intentional, both in their marriage, because they were raising six kids, and then also in their parenting? Lauren Walker: As far as their marriage, they were always so, so good at doing date night. I never realized how difficult that was probably for them getting everything arranged for six girls to be babysat or to be left home alone. [00:04:26] Every Friday, they were going out on their date and leave us with a treat and a babysitter. Once my oldest sister was old enough, they would leave us home with her. They were always so good at just making sure they had that alone time. Then as far as our family and the parenting, they were just always so good at talking to us. There was always an open communication. We could talk to them about anything. Every day, we'd come home from school, and our mom would just be in the kitchen waiting for us. There were six seats around my parents' kitchen counter. We'd all just kind of sit on the counter, and our mom would start on dinner, or we would eat cookies and just talk to her. We were able to get to know each other and get to know our mom and be really open about things that were going on. I think that's where we grew the closest was just those conversations around the counter, which is so funny. Our parents just barely moved out of the house we grew up in. We went to their new house a couple of months ago, and we were like, "Where are we supposed to sit? [00:05:27] Where are we supposed to go? There's no counter." It was funny because even as adults, we would always go back and just sit around the counter and talk to our mom and just let our husbands and kids go do their own thing. That's kind of where we'd always end up. We grew up in the kitchen. We grew up watching our mom cook, and that's how we became so close. I'm not sure if it was really intentional, but they did a great job getting us to talk and open up. Now as a parent, I'm just like, "How did they do that?" Especially the date night, I'm like, "How did you get out every weekend?" They did a great job. They're the best. Laura Dugger: That is so fascinating to hear how that sweet time around the table was so impactful for each of you. Now it's turned into a business that employs each of you. I just think God is always up to something around the table. It reminds me of this book I read in grad school. It was written by Mary Piper. I think it was called Letters to a Young Therapist. [00:06:29] She talks about the three things that most likely you will remember from your childhood. Your memories often are centered around playing outside, family vacations, and dinner around the table. Thanks for sharing that that was such a value of yours. It's neat to see what it turned into. Now we can jump to a later part of your story. Where did the idea for a blog originate? Lauren Walker: Yes, for sure. It was 2011. So back before the times of unlimited text messages and unlimited minutes and all of the luxuries that we live with today. For the first time, all of us were kind of moving apart from each other. Sisters were getting married and having kids and following their husbands to medical school or jobs and things like that and others were going off to college. My little sister and I were still at home. We were a senior and a sophomore in high school. [00:07:29] We were just all of a sudden within a year completely separated, which was so crazy and hard for us. At the beginning, we tried keeping in contact with texting and things. You can imagine those bills piling up very, very quickly. One of my sisters had the idea to start a blog. She had seen some floating around the internet. We knew that anyone could ride on it if you were a part of it. We decided to start one so that we could keep in touch with each other. That's where we started sharing how much we missed each other and how much we wish we could all be back in Utah. Just kind of like the mushy, gushy stuff. Eventually, my older sisters, who were starting to have kids, started putting on my mom's brownie recipe or my mom's best slow cooker chicken recipe. They would share those recipes with each other because my mom either had them written down or they were just in my mom's mind. [00:08:28] Because she was amazing and always just knew what she was doing in the kitchen. Eventually, we started seeing people coming. We had this little thing on the side of our blog that would show us where people were viewing our website from. We saw people coming from New Jersey and New York. I think we saw one all the way over in Australia or something. And we're just this little family from Utah. Of course, we're like, "Oh my gosh, someone in New York. This is crazy." We definitely don't have any family there. We definitely don't have any cousins. We realized people were searching or Googling mom's slow cooker chicken or super chocolate brownies and things like that and our blog was showing up because at that time, there were not a lot of other food blogs out there or a lot of people sharing recipes online like that. And so we started posting more recipes. We eventually took off all of the love notes you might say to each other about how hard it is being a new mom and how much we missed each other. [00:09:30] We took those off and we went to our dad who was this really computer-savvy guy, and we just said, "Is it possible to make money from something like this?" So he researched and did some stuff for us and ended up putting some ads up there so that we could make money off of people coming. I think we made, in the first month, like 25 cents. Our big dream, our big goal was one day we're going to take our whole family on a cruise. It was going to be this big miracle thing. But we just had no idea back then how much our lives were really about to change. It just kind of snowballed from there. We jumped on board when Pinterest started. We were one of the first users of Pinterest and grew up. Our Pinterest were pretty big and grew our Facebook and just kept working. But it's been a lot of fun. It's definitely not anything any of us expected to happen, but it's something that we work really hard at. We love it and we love working together. It's so fun to get to talk, to have an excuse to talk every single day. [00:10:33] Laura Dugger: That's incredible. I think stories are so powerful. I'd love to know as we fast forward, two questions. First, did you all get to go on your cruise? And second, what is everyone up to now? Lauren Walker: We were speaking at an event a couple of months ago and telling kind of our origin story and things like this, and none of my sisters said the goal we had of taking someone on a cruise. And we were all standing up there and we looked at each other and we were like…

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    COVID-19 Bonus Episode: Thriving with Kids at Home During Quarantine with Amanda Leman Apr 14, 2020
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    COVID-19 Bonus Episode: Thriving with Kids at Home During Quarantine with Amanda Leman

    Philippians 3:20 (NIV) “But our citizenship is in heaven. And we eagerly await a Savior from there, the Lord Jesus Christ,"

    Amanda Leman has been married to Drew for almost 20 years (nearly half her life)! Together they have three kids: Will (15), Miles (11), and Simone (9). Their family loves to travel, both trying new places and visiting spots they have been over and over again. Amanda was a Realtor for 7 years, then took off 10 years to stay at home with her kids, and now she works from home as an Assistant to a Realtor. She also fills in as a baker at a local restaurant, 430 Scones. She has relied on her faith in Jesus to thrive during this quarantine.

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    1 Egg

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    1 tsp Baking Soda

    1/2 tsp Salt

    1/2 tsp Vanilla

    12 oz. Chocolate Chips

    Mix together sugar, brown sugar, butter, vanilla, and egg. Combine flour, baking soda, and salt. Add flour mixture to sugar mixture. Stir in chocolate chips. Bake at 375 degrees for 8-10 minutes

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    Gospel Scripture: (all NIV)

    Romans 3:23 “for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,”

    Romans 3:24 “and are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus.”

    Romans 3:25 (a) “God presented him as a sacrifice of atonement, through faith in his blood.”

    Hebrews 9:22 (b) “without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness.”

    Romans 5:8 “But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us.”

    Romans 5:11 “Not only is this so, but we also rejoice in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received reconciliation.”

    John 3:16 “For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.”

    Romans 10:9 “That if you confess with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.”

    Luke 15:10 says “In the same way, I tell you, there is rejoicing in the presence of the angels of God over one sinner who repents.”

    Romans 8:1 “Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus”

    Ephesians 1:13–14 “And you also were included in Christ when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation. Having believed, you were marked in him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit, who is a deposit guaranteeing our inheritance until the redemption of those who are God’s possession- to the praise of his glory.”

    Ephesians 1:15–23 “For this reason, ever since I heard about your faith in the Lord Jesus and your love for all the saints, I have not stopped giving thanks for you, remembering you in my prayers. I keep asking that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the glorious Father, may give you the spirit of wisdom and revelation, so that you may know him better. I pray also that the eyes of your heart may be enlightened in order that you may know the hope to which he has called you, the riches of his glorious inheritance in the saints, and his incomparably great power for us who believe. That power is like the working of his mighty strength, which he exerted in Christ when he raised him from the dead and seated him at his right hand in the heavenly realms, far above all rule and authority, power and dominion, and every title that can be given, not only in the present age but also in the one to come. And God placed all things under his feet and appointed him to be head over everything for the church, which is his body, the fullness of him who fills everything in every way.”

    Ephesians 2:8–10 “For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith – and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God – not by works, so that no one can boast. For we are God‘s workmanship, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do.“

    Ephesians 2:13 “But now in Christ Jesus you who once were far away have been brought near through the blood of Christ.“

    Philippians 1:6 “being confident of this, that he who began a good work in you will carry it on to completion until the day of Christ Jesus.”


    99 Sabbath Rest with Sandy Feit Apr 13, 2020
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    99. Sabbath Rest with Sandy Feit **Transcription Below** “But he was pierced for our transgressions, he was crushed for our iniquities; the punishment that brought us peace was on him, and by his wounds we are healed.” -Isaiah 53:5 (NIV) Sandy Feit was born in 1950 and raised in a Conservative Jewish family. She unexpectedly met her Messiah in 1980 and has been on a grand spiritual adventure ever since. By day, Sandy works as Senior Copy Editor and staff writer for In Touch Ministries, and every Friday night, she can be found at her favorite place on earth—family dinner with her three children and eight grandkids. At The Savvy Sauce, we will only recommend resources we believe in! We also want you to be aware: We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites. Sandy Feit’s Writing Collection The Good and Beautiful God by James Bryan Smith Thank You to Our Sponsors: Samaritan Ministries and Chick-fil-A East Peoria Connect with The Savvy Sauce on Facebook or Instagram or Our Website Please help us out by sharing this episode with a friend, leaving a 5-star rating and review, and subscribing to this podcast! Gospel Scripture: (all NIV) Romans 3:23 “for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,” Romans 3:24 “and are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus.” Romans 3:25 (a) “God presented him as a sacrifice of atonement, through faith in his blood.” Hebrews 9:22 (b) “without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness.” Romans 5:8 “But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us.” Romans 5:11 “Not only is this so, but we also rejoice in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received reconciliation.” John 3:16 “For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.” Romans 10:9 “That if you confess with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.” Luke 15:10 says “In the same way, I tell you, there is rejoicing in the presence of the angels of God over one sinner who repents.” Romans 8:1 “Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus” Ephesians 1:13–14 “And you also were included in Christ when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation. Having believed, you were marked in him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit, who is a deposit guaranteeing our inheritance until the redemption of those who are God’s possession- to the praise of his glory.” Ephesians 1:15–23 “For this reason, ever since I heard about your faith in the Lord Jesus and your love for all the saints, I have not stopped giving thanks for you, remembering you in my prayers. I keep asking that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the glorious Father, may give you the spirit of wisdom and revelation, so that you may know him better. I pray also that the eyes of your heart may be enlightened in order that you may know the hope to which he has called you, the riches of his glorious inheritance in the saints, and his incomparably great power for us who believe. That power is like the working of his mighty strength, which he exerted in Christ when he raised him from the dead and seated him at his right hand in the heavenly realms, far above all rule and authority, power and dominion, and every title that can be given, not only in the present age but also in the one to come. And God placed all things under his feet and appointed him to be head over everything for the church, which is his body, the fullness of him who fills everything in every way.” Ephesians 2:8–10 “For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith – and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God – not by works, so that no one can boast. For we are God‘s workmanship, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do.“ Ephesians 2:13 “But now in Christ Jesus you who once were far away have been brought near through the blood of Christ.“ Philippians 1:6 “being confident of this, that he who began a good work in you will carry it on to completion until the day of Christ Jesus.” **Transcription** [00:00:01] <music> Laura Dugger: Welcome to The Savvy Sauce, where we have practical chats for intentional living. I'm your host Laura Dugger, and I'm so glad you're here. [00:00:17] <music> Laura Dugger: In the midst of a health care crisis, you don't have to feel isolated and alone. Samaritan Ministries connects Christians who support each other through prayer, encouragement, and financial support for medical needs. Learn more at SamaritanMinistries.org. Thank you to Chick-fil-A East Peoria, one of our sponsors, for today's episode. You can place a mobile order for their drive-thru or for curbside pickup. Learn more at cfaeastpeoria.com. Sandy Feit and I originally met each other through her daughter, Jackie Coleman. I consider Jackie one of my dearest friends and I hope you had a chance to listen to her episode on friendship back in October of 2018. And now we get to sit under Sandy's teaching on Sabbath. We will cover the history of this gift and unpack how to incorporate this rhythm of rest into our lives today, if we so choose. [00:01:23] Here's our chat. Welcome to The Savvy Sauce, Sandy. Sandy Feit: Thanks, it's nice to be here. Laura Dugger: Would you just start us off by sharing your story with us? Sandy Feit: Sure. I was brought up in Providence, Rhode Island in the 1950s, and we had a sizable Jewish community, which was pretty insulated. And this all felt normal to me, but now looking back, I think it's likely that it was related to how recent the Holocaust was. So it made sense that there was this self-protective reaction against assimilation. But what that meant for me was I grew up with an attitude of us versus them, where "us" was anyone Jewish, and "them" was everybody else. It didn't matter whether they were friends of Israel, lovers of Jews, or anti-Semitic. They were all "them". So the way that played out in my life was I had almost exclusively Jewish friends. I dated only Jewish boys, and I was almost never in a Gentile home. [00:02:26] As for religion, ours was a conservative Jewish home, and that meant that I was brought up kosher. I never tasted a cheeseburger or lobster until after I was married. As for holidays and Sabbath, we had a lot of rules. Now, the rules varied from household to household. So if someone was orthodox, that meant that they probably wouldn't do any cooking from Friday evening to Saturday evening. They wouldn't do any driving. They wouldn't use electricity except on timers, so things would go on automatically. But the conservative, which we were, was more relaxed. So, mainly what I remember was that when Sabbath rolled around, we couldn't use pencils or crayons or scissors or sewing machine. And I was a kid who grew up to be an art major. So as you can imagine, that wasn't really pleasant for me. I wasn't a child who enjoyed reading, which is ironic because I grew up to become an editor. But I just felt that these rules were very restrictive and frustrating for me. [00:03:30] So starting on Sunset Friday, I just couldn't wait for Sundown Saturday. In general, though, I felt good about being Jewish. I was proud to be one of the chosen people, but I had no idea what we were chosen for. God Himself didn't seem very integral to our experience of Judaism. It struck me more as a lifestyle of rules, and mostly man-made rules at that. So when I left for college, I didn't see a reason to remain observant. I was a good person, and to me that just felt like enough. What did I have instead of religion? I think of it more as a paradigm. My hypothesis of how life worked was that I was lucky. Things went my way. In school, I did very well academically. I married a Jewish doctor. I had a nice job. I had one child who was, by the way, born right on her due date. And we had four grandparents all living within a mile of us. And child number two was on the way. [00:04:30] So everything was going according to plan. The only problem was that it was my plan. And then my water broke unexpectedly 12 weeks early, and Jonathan, our second child, was born weighing a frightening three pounds. The head of the NICU said, "Don't worry, 28-weekers are hard to manage, but we're good at it." And I figured, "Hey, I'm lucky." So this might be a little rigorous, but I just assumed everything would work out fine. Well, we kind of bumbled along for four weeks, and then all of a sudden, Jonathan got an overwhelming infection. He was rushed to surgery on a Friday and died two days later. By the way, he died on April 1st. So that was a really hard time for me. So my paradigm of things go my way had collapsed. And that fall, as if I needed further evidence that I wasn't in charge of my life, a subsequent pregnancy proved abnormal. [00:05:31] It was something called a molar pregnancy, where the placenta can turn cancerous and the baby gets blighted. At any rate, I ended up on chemotherapy and weekly blood tests for months. Elliot, my husband, knew I needed help and he approached a new hospital social worker. He was a pediatrician in the hospital and he knew this social worker that people considered wise and asked if she would just come and talk to me. Well, Ellen was a really good listener, and she wasn't afraid to take on my questions, and she wasn't afraid of the pain I was in. And I found it very comforting to be with her. So I would ask her questions like, how can you stand working in that unit where children die? And she would answer, "Well, I have a strong faith." And I didn't even see the connection. What did faith have to do with that? So I remember asking her, what religion are you? And she said, Christian. I didn't really understand that word if I had heard others. [00:06:31] Jewish mind doesn't really have a good category for all the different types of Christians. So I said, well, are you Catholic or Gentile or Baptist? And she said, "Just just Christian. But it's not a religion, it's a relationship." Again, I didn't really have any understanding of what that meant. Eventually, I asked her something that I don't even recall, but I remember her answer as clear as anything, because her answer was that the only way to heaven is through Jesus Christ. Well, I didn't know what to do with that. It was offensive to me. I was Jewish. She knew I was Jewish. I thought, how can she say that? She knows what I've been through. I knew at this point I'm supposed to throw her out of my house, but she had been my life preserver. That was the only thing that gave me any comfort, and I knew I couldn't do that either. So I just answered her by saying, "Well, I believe my Judaism is true." And she amazed me by agreeing. But she added that if Judaism is true, then Christianity must also be, because there are so many Old Testament prophecies that aren't fulfilled until the New Testament. [00:07:36] Well, that certainly confused me because I always thought that the Old Testament was my Bible, was for Jews, and the New Testament was for Gentiles. I had no idea that they had anything to do with each other. So she asked me if I had a Bible, and I found the one I had been given at my bat mitzvah. So she took me on a six-month research project through the prophecies in my own Bible, and a portrait of my own Messiah began to take shape. And this is what my Bible said about Him. He would be born of a virgin. He would be born in Bethlehem. His hands and feet would be pierced. And said he was cut off out of the land of the living for the transgression of my people to whom the stroke was due. Well, this was sounding an awful lot like a "them" because I grew up down the street from a Catholic school and every Easter there was a poster out front that showed Jesus on the cross and it said, "He died for your sins." [00:08:37] I had no idea what that meant, but now reading in Isaiah 53 that He was crushed for our iniquities and He was cut off for my people, it kind of went, click, and all of a sudden I realized that that is who these prophecies in my Bible were about. So that is how I came to believe in Jesus. That night at the kitchen table, I thought that I had finally reached the finish line, not realizing that it was actually the starting line, and I've been on a little journey ever since. Laura Dugger: That is so captivating to hear your story. I've never heard all of those details about Jonathan, and I'm sure that recent anniversary was still tough. Sandy Feit: Well, actually, it used to be very hard. I taught in a Christian school, I was an art teacher there, and every April 1st, the kids would think it was great fun to play April Fools jokes on all the teachers. So whenever they did to me, I would just kind of snap, you know, that's not funny. [00:09:39] One day, my son also played an April Fool's joke, and I did the same thing to him, and he said, "But Mom, April 1st is the day that Jonathan met Jesus." And it just turned everything around for me. So now I actually appreciate the day. And I realized that my entire family was on a different trajectory because of that day and what happened on it. So now if I had to rewrite the story of my life, I would not leave that part out. Laura Dugger: Your maturity is so incredible to hear. I'm just curious with a few follow-up questions. So at this point, when you came to know Jesus, you were still in Rhode Island at this point, is that right? Sandy Feit: That's right. Laura Dugger: How did you explain this then to your family, or did you keep that to yourself? Sandy Feit: Well, it took me two years to tell my mother. It was really very hard to do, but eventually it just kind of bubbled out. [00:10:39] I had been having dreams about it and it had been coming between us without her knowing that I would feel this big distance. So finally, I just told her and she had a strange reaction. At first, she said, "Well, you sound so happy. Why don't you tell your sister?" Because my sister at the time was having some struggles. So I sort of couldn't believe my ears. And I quick called my sister and told her. And she has always been very open to me. But the next day, my mother kind of thought about it and said, "You know, I was thinking about what you said and what does that mean in terms of our family and all the relatives and her grandparents?" And then she started distancing herself from it. She came to have a really hard time with it. But we managed to get past it in our relationship and had a good relationship. But I wasn't really allowed to talk about that part of my life, which, as you can imagine, when it's in every fiber of your being, that's very tricky to do. But we navigated it okay. She died a few years ago, and I never quite got the answer from her that I had hoped, but God didn't leave me without hope either. [00:11:46] There were certain things that happened at the end that make me think, Maybe she was coming around in her own way. And that's what I cling to. Laura Dugger: I love how He gives us that personal hope. Sandy Feit: Mm-hmm. Laura Dugger: Then what about with Elliot and your children? When did you share about Jesus with them? Sandy Feit: Well, Elliot, that was very interesting because he brought the social worker, Ellen, to our house, so he knew her very well from work. And the w…

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    98 Financial Wisdom Amidst COVID-19 and Beyond with Natalie Taylor Apr 06, 2020
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    98. Financial Wisdom Amidst COVID-19 and Beyond with Natalie Taylor **Transcription Below** Proverbs 21:5 (ESV) “The plans of the diligent lead surely to abundance, but everyone who is hasty comes only to poverty." Natalie Taylor is a Certified Financial Planner professional and Behavioral Financial Advisor. She's on a mission to help people cultivate a plan for their finances based on their values and goals. She helps people not only make progress, but find confidence, balance, and peace along the way. Frequently quoted in major publications such as the Huffington Post, Forbes, Business Insider and Lifehacker, Natalie draws on over 15 years of comprehensive financial planning experience, 7 years in fintech, and a decade of professional speaking to share advice that works in real life, not just on paper. After eight years in private practice, Natalie joined LearnVest, a fintech startup on a mission to make financial planning affordable and accessible to the masses. She moved on to be the Director of Financial Advice for LearnVest after they were acquired by a Fortune 100 company, and left in mid-2018 to start a fintech consulting and professional speaking business. She consults for companies like Ellevest and LearnLux, and continues to speak to audiences throughout the country, including speaking for the second year in a row at the annual Beachbody Summit in Indianapolis alongside James Clear and Rachel Hollis to a crowd of 20,000+ business owners. As of February 2020, Natalie opened a financial planning practice to work one-on-one with clients again, returning to her first (career) love. Natalie Taylor’s Financial Website Sign up for Natalie’s E-mail List Here! Connect with Natalie on Instagram @natalieanntaylormoney Thank You to Our Sponsor: Samaritan Ministries Connect with The Savvy Sauce on Facebook or Instagram or Our Website Please help us out by sharing this episode with a friend, leaving a 5-star rating and review, and subscribing to this podcast! Gospel Scripture: (all NIV) Romans 3:23 “for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,” Romans 3:24 “and are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus.” Romans 3:25 (a) “God presented him as a sacrifice of atonement, through faith in his blood.” Hebrews 9:22 (b) “without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness.” Romans 5:8 “But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us.” Romans 5:11 “Not only is this so, but we also rejoice in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received reconciliation.” John 3:16 “For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.” Romans 10:9 “That if you confess with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.” Luke 15:10 says “In the same way, I tell you, there is rejoicing in the presence of the angels of God over one sinner who repents.” Romans 8:1 “Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus” Ephesians 1:13–14 “And you also were included in Christ when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation. Having believed, you were marked in him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit, who is a deposit guaranteeing our inheritance until the redemption of those who are God’s possession- to the praise of his glory.” Ephesians 1:15–23 “For this reason, ever since I heard about your faith in the Lord Jesus and your love for all the saints, I have not stopped giving thanks for you, remembering you in my prayers. I keep asking that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the glorious Father, may give you the spirit of wisdom and revelation, so that you may know him better. I pray also that the eyes of your heart may be enlightened in order that you may know the hope to which he has called you, the riches of his glorious inheritance in the saints, and his incomparably great power for us who believe. That power is like the working of his mighty strength, which he exerted in Christ when he raised him from the dead and seated him at his right hand in the heavenly realms, far above all rule and authority, power and dominion, and every title that can be given, not only in the present age but also in the one to come. And God placed all things under his feet and appointed him to be head over everything for the church, which is his body, the fullness of him who fills everything in every way.” Ephesians 2:8–10 “For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith – and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God – not by works, so that no one can boast. For we are God‘s workmanship, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do.“ Ephesians 2:13 “But now in Christ Jesus you who once were far away have been brought near through the blood of Christ.“ Philippians 1:6 “being confident of this, that he who began a good work in you will carry it on to completion until the day of Christ Jesus.” **Transcription** [00:00:00] <music> Laura Dugger: Welcome to The Savvy Sauce, where we have practical chats for intentional living. I'm your host Laura Dugger, and I'm so glad you're here. [00:00:17] <music> Laura Dugger: Samaritan Ministries is a biblical way to help your family and care for your brothers and sisters in Christ. Every month, Samaritan members help one another with their medical needs by praying for and providing financial support. You can learn more at SamaritanMinistries.org. My friend Natalie Taylor is a trustworthy financial expert and our returning guest today. She is not giving investment advice, but she is offering financial education and perspective. After listening to this episode, I expect for you to feel more hopeful and more equipped to know which financial step is best for you to take next. Here's our chat. Welcome back to The Savvy Sauce, Natalie. Natalie Taylor: Thanks so much. Good to be back. [00:01:17] Laura Dugger: It's so fun to have you on again. For anybody who missed our previous episodes, can you just remind us all who you are and what you spend your days doing? Natalie Taylor: Sure. I'm Natalie Taylor. I'm a certified financial planner and behavioral financial advisor. I have two little boys, five and seven, and a husband, Ryan. We live in Santa Barbara, California. When I'm not with my kids, I spend time as a financial planner, working with people in their 30s and 40s, usually families who have kids and are juggling all the things from retirement to college to getting a house or paying down a mortgage and are trying to find the balance between all of those things and trying to enjoy life a little bit as well. Then I do some consulting work for financial technology companies, and I also speak professionally around the country. Laura Dugger: And you are incredible at all of those roles. You're in California, like you said, and we're in Illinois, and currently, both of us, with COVID-19, are under a stay-at-home order. [00:02:19] So just wanting to check in, how is your family making this work as you're currently under this order? Natalie Taylor: You know, it's kind of... I don't want to say it's funny because there's so many serious things right now. But this is my normal life. I work from home, I run my businesses from home, and every minute that I'm not working I'm with my kids and I'm parenting and taking care of all the household stuff. So I feel like if anything now my husband is also living my life as well. Instead of getting to go to the office and travel the world for his work, he's now working from home. And every minute that he's not working, he's doing childcare because we've been doing shifts of work between the two of us. We each get a five-hour chunk every day and then whoever's most behind, we kind of rock, paper, scissors and get to work in the evening. But yeah, I mean, it's certainly been different and we've certainly had to keep our spirits up and make some adjustments in all parts of life, juggling childcare and homeschool and work and all the things, and toilet paper, and trying to get my parents to take this all seriously. Because I don't know if you're in that boat, but man, it was a little hard to get them to take it seriously, but we finally got them there, so they're taking good care of themselves now. [00:03:29] Laura Dugger: I'm so thankful to hear that you guys are adjusting well. I know that this virus, obviously, like you said, it has a dark side, but what have been your most positive learnings from this unique season? Natalie Taylor: You know, I think for me, it's just been a great opportunity to be able to serve my clients, serve the companies that I consult for, and to be able to serve my friends and my community. I think it's a really important time to focus on what's important. For us, I'm going to be honest, that's not homeschool. My kids are five and seven. They're in transitional kindergarten or pre-K and second grade. And we're learning things like how to ride a skateboard and how to ride a two-wheeler and how to vacuum and how to clean a toilet. Those are the things that we're focusing on and building some self-sufficiency since we're all home and we're all sharing the load a little bit more than normal. And I think those are going to be really positive things for my kids to understand. [00:04:29] Laura Dugger: I love that. And it's an out-of-the-box picture of it because I know a lot of us are feeling all of this pressure. Like you said, we're all becoming homeschooling parents. That's really helpful. One of my friends, Allison, encouraged us when this all started, just, what can we all be teaching our kids that they aren't learning at school? And it sounds like you and Ryan are doing exactly that. Natalie Taylor: I love that. That's said so well. Laura Dugger: This entire conversation today is actually taking place as a result of your recent email. I just found it to be so grounding and helpful. I just want to encourage listeners, if you haven't already signed up for Natalie's email list, I would highly recommend you do that right away. We will link to all of that in the show notes, but Natalie, could you tell us right now what your website is where they can sign up for that? Natalie Taylor: Yeah. Thanks for that, Laura. My website is natalieanntaylor.com. [00:05:31] If you log in there, I have some blog posts there that hopefully are helpful. If you want to follow me on LinkedIn, I posted the client letter on LinkedIn. Business Insider actually published it as well. So that information is there. And I sent it out to my email list, which is, Laura, how you saw it. So if you want to sign up for my email list from my website, you certainly can. I'm not someone who emails everyone all the time. You might hear from me once a month. But I really email when I have something meaningful to share. And I don't when I don't. So that's how the email list works. Laura Dugger: And yes, as the recipient of those emails, I would affirm everything you just said, and I find them all to be helpful. So as this most recent email related to finances, during this season with COVID-19, what do you think is a healthy financial perspective? Natalie Taylor: I think a healthy financial perspective is sort of balanced between the big picture and the kind of micro things that we deal with every day. So I think it's important to understand and know enough about what's going on in the big picture of the economy and the healthcare system and the virus and all of those things. [00:06:46] But to filter that through to, Okay, what does that mean for me each day? And keeping in mind, is this a short-term thing or a long-term thing? Because a lot of the news we're hearing is sensationalized, and it really plays to some emotions and for many of us, some fears, some deep-rooted fears that maybe we weren't even aware of. When we have the risk of taking away some everyday things we depend on, like being able to go to the market, being able to get toilet paper, being able to buy rubbing alcohol, all of these normal things, when those feel at risk, it can be really unsettling. So I think to have a healthy financial perspective, it's important to spend a little bit of time understanding what you're thinking and feeling before you think about taking any action. Laura Dugger: Just from the people that you've been interacting with then, how have you witnessed the stress of the coronavirus affecting people's financial decisions? Natalie Taylor: I think some clients are worried that their income will decrease. [00:07:46] I've had some clients who have gone from making $100,000 a year to making nothing until we get out of this season. So I've definitely seen some stress and concern around income. I've also seen a lot of stress and concern around the stock market. You know, for those who follow it, you've seen that it's been dropping and it's been wild. There's been days that we've dropped 12% and days that we've been up 9%. So it's been totally wild and choppy. But when you're looking at your portfolio, those ups and downs mean I lost dollars, I gained dollars, I lost dollars, I lost more dollars. And we're wired to want to take action and to want to stop the bleeding, if you will, when we see that kind of thing. So I've seen clients really concerned about their portfolio and wondering, should I be taking action here? Is there something that I should be doing to protect myself? Laura Dugger: That leads me to another question. So they may be asking what action to take. But because you are a financial expert, what other questions are people asking you right now? [00:08:49] Natalie Taylor: I think the question on sort of everybody's mind underlying all of it is what does this all mean for me? And am I going to be okay? I think the answer to that is a little bit complicated and it's different for everyone. You know, we are all gonna be impacted in different ways, some of us more than others because we're in industries that are more impacted or less impacted. So I think it's important not to take on the emotions or the behaviors of those that are in different situations and to really make sure that you focus on, Okay, let me think through what this actually means for me and how I can reasonably respond to take action on the things that I can control. And maybe, you know, make some changes in the realm of things that I can influence and how can I identify and then let go of the things that I cannot control. Laura Dugger: That's such a great mindset. Would you mind taking it a step further and maybe sharing what that would look like for two different clients, one who is going to be significantly impacted financially through this and someone else who may not be? [00:09:54] But what would that look like to walk through this in a healthy way? Natalie Taylor: That's a great question. For a client who is going to be significantly impacted, I would say that's probably because their income is gonna be significantly impacted. And so to that client, I would say, let's do our best to estimate if any income will be coming in. Let's look at your next best places to get cash to supplement your income if your income drops. By that I mean, how much do you have an emergency savings that we can use to temporarily fill in for your income while your income is lower, or maybe your income is eliminated for a short period of time? So how much do we have an emergency fund and how long do we thin…

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    97 Guiding Our Children Through Their Emotions with Julie Roth Mar 30, 2020
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    97. Guiding Our Children Through Their Emotions with Julie Roth **Transcription Below** Psalm 56:8 (NLT) “You keep track of all my sorrows. You have collected all my tears in your bottle. You have recorded each one in your book.” Julie Roth has been married to Marty for 14 years. They have three children ages 10, 9, and 6. She is a Licensed Clinical Professional Counselor, has a Master’s degree in Human Development Counseling, and is currently pursuing a Master's in Counseling from Westminster Theological Seminary. She is on the Board of Directors at Peoria Rescue Ministries and has been a consultant to other ministries in the Midwest. She loves teaching the Bible, counseling, and watching Dude Perfect with her family. And while David says in Psalm 139 that we are all fearfully and wonderfully made, Julie admits to wishing that life as a mother did not come with such bags under her eyes! Thank You to Our Sponsor: Peoria Christian Schools Connect with The Savvy Sauce on Facebook or Instagram or Our Website Gospel Scripture: (all NIV) Romans 3:23 “for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,” Romans 3:24 “and are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus.” Romans 3:25 (a) “God presented him as a sacrifice of atonement, through faith in his blood.” Hebrews 9:22 (b) “without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness.” Romans 5:8 “But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us.” Romans 5:11 “Not only is this so, but we also rejoice in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received reconciliation.” John 3:16 “For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.” Romans 10:9 “That if you confess with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.” Luke 15:10 says “In the same way, I tell you, there is rejoicing in the presence of the angels of God over one sinner who repents.” Romans 8:1 “Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus” Ephesians 1:13–14 “And you also were included in Christ when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation. Having believed, you were marked in him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit, who is a deposit guaranteeing our inheritance until the redemption of those who are God’s possession- to the praise of his glory.” Ephesians 1:15–23 “For this reason, ever since I heard about your faith in the Lord Jesus and your love for all the saints, I have not stopped giving thanks for you, remembering you in my prayers. I keep asking that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the glorious Father, may give you the spirit of wisdom and revelation, so that you may know him better. I pray also that the eyes of your heart may be enlightened in order that you may know the hope to which he has called you, the riches of his glorious inheritance in the saints, and his incomparably great power for us who believe. That power is like the working of his mighty strength, which he exerted in Christ when he raised him from the dead and seated him at his right hand in the heavenly realms, far above all rule and authority, power and dominion, and every title that can be given, not only in the present age but also in the one to come. And God placed all things under his feet and appointed him to be head over everything for the church, which is his body, the fullness of him who fills everything in every way.” Ephesians 2:8–10 “For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith – and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God – not by works, so that no one can boast. For we are God‘s workmanship, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do.“ Ephesians 2:13 “But now in Christ Jesus you who once were far away have been brought near through the blood of Christ.“ Philippians 1:6 “being confident of this, that he who began a good work in you will carry it on to completion until the day of Christ Jesus.” **Transcription** [00:00:00] <music> Laura Dugger: Welcome to The Savvy Sauce, where we have practical chats for intentional living. I'm your host Laura Dugger, and I'm so glad you're here. [00:00:17] <music> Laura Dugger: I want to say thank you to our sponsor, Peoria Christian School. They are raising a generation of 21st-century Christian leaders right here in central Illinois. Visit their website at peoriachristian.org. Thanks for your sponsorship. It's a pleasure to introduce you to my guest and my friend, Julie Roth. She is a wise parent and gifted counselor, and you're going to love the creative ideas she shares to help us build relational capital in our family in order to guide our children well through their range of emotions. Here's our chat. Welcome to The Savvy Sauce, Julie. Julie Roth: I'm excited to be here with you, Laura. Laura Dugger: Well, it is always a blast to record in person, especially with a friend. So first, will you just tell the rest of our friends listening a little bit about yourself and your season of life? [00:01:18] Julie Roth: Sure, so I am married, have been married for 14 years, have three children. Their ages are 10, 9, and 6. I am a member at a local church here in the Midwest, and I am on the board of directors at a local rescue ministry. I have a master's degree in counseling, so I'm licensed in our state to do that profession, and I'm pursuing another master's in counseling through Westminster Theological Seminary, and I'll be done, Lord willing, next year. I have the opportunity to counsel in our church, counsel in the community, and I love mentoring and consulting, whether it be people or organizations, and I am dabbling in some public speaking. Laura Dugger: That's awesome to hear that snapshot. I just want to say that something I admire about you is the way that you slow down to parent and understand your children's emotions. [00:02:23] So can you teach us what that actually looks like for you? Julie Roth: I'll try. Slowing down is really a good description, I think, of it. For me to understand my children's emotions, it requires that I get to know them. I think for several years, I was under the impression that because my kids were birthed by me and they live with me all the time, that I somehow knew them fully and I kind of took it for granted. To understand their emotions, I first need to understand them uniquely. Even though I have three kids in the same home, parented hopefully the same, they are very unique. I need to focus on them individually to understand them. But then also to learn to understand how they speak and what language they speak. So essentially, I have to be really intentional to be a student of my children. [00:03:24] Laura Dugger: That's such a reminder that we all need to be intentional students of those around us who we love. So now for each of us, if we want to understand our own children's emotions and help guide them, what are some questions you recommend we begin to ask? Julie Roth: I don't think that there are magical questions. These are some questions that I just started doing in trying to understand my kids. One of them would be to identify what do they value or what do they not value? I think that's really helpful for me with each of my kids. Also, what annoys them or what excites them? It helps me see the different facets of who they are and then how their different emotions will play out and what they will look like. Big ones for my kids beyond that would be, how are they encouraged? [00:04:24] That was a hard one for me to identify with two of my children. One was very obvious. So the flip question, which was more easy for me to answer, is how are they discouraged? Or when do I see my child deflate? Is it when they weren't recognized for something that they were really excited about and proud of or was it when they didn't get a reward? Was it when they received speech that was more harsh or stern? Was it when someone said something really mean? Those are just some examples of when I would see my children deflate. And it was usually in situations that were public or where I was observing them. For me, it's harder to observe my children be encouraged or discouraged when I am directly engaged with them because I am distracted by my own emotions or my own thoughts or my own agenda. [00:05:32] So that's where being a student and observer of my child is helpful because when they're interacting with friends or their dad or siblings, or teachers, then I can see when they get puffed up and when they deflate, if that makes any sense. Laura Dugger: That totally makes sense. I think those examples help drive it home. So even going back to that first one, you said, what do they value or what don't they value, are there any examples on the top of your mind? Julie Roth: Sometimes it is through emotion. They'll be excited. Sometimes it's through action. So what are they protecting? What are they regularly carrying around? What do they bring in the car with them? Those are tangible objects. But then what do they talk about? What is it that they go to bed thinking about and wake up thinking about that then they verbalize or they do when I'm observing them to see this is something really important to them? [00:06:37] Another question that's been really helpful in communicating with my children is, how are they motivated? One child may be motivated by what they can gain, what reward they'll receive, while another child might be motivated by what they can get away with. So I will talk with one child who they want to know the bare minimum that they have to do in order to avoid a consequence. That's a type of motivation, right? But the flip side, just like with the encouragement and discouragement, how are they discouraged? When do I see that they will not take action regardless? For one of my children, it would be when he feels that he has disappointed you, that he's behind, that he's already failed. For one of his siblings, they would be motivated when they feel like they're the underdog, and they would put forth a lot of effort to achieve something. [00:07:43] But for him, when he's the underdog, it almost paralyzes him. So that's really helpful for me in communicating with him as a parent because I'm going to approach them from a different angle if I'm needing to get them to take action in a certain area. The last question that I'm regularly going through would be, what emotion or motions does this particular child regularly experience? Which ones do I not observe them experiencing a lot? Then finally, what emotion do they follow blindly? With that last part, I mean, if one particular emotion hits a child and every time they experience that emotion they will not challenge it, but they will follow it wherever it goes, that is something that I do a mental check for and know that I'm going to be speaking in during the peace times so that I can do some training and educating of them. [00:08:55] That when they enter into those emotions and follow blindly, now we have some language and a plan of attack. An example of that would be anger. When anger hits, there's no questioning, there's no challenge of whether this is good or not, whether it's appropriate or not, but one child will just go where that emotion takes them. Laura Dugger: I think that really helps to understand it with an example of anger. Another one that comes up would be sadness, if they would go down that path. Are there any other ones that you've seen? Julie Roth: Shame, humor even. So joy, excitement. I think any emotion a person, whether they be a child or a parent, can almost become a slave to. They want to hold on tight for that ride because they interpret that emotion as being advantageous for them, whether it's a curiosity or a desperate need to see where it goes. [00:10:04] I think that each of us have at least one, if not multiple, emotions that we don't challenge and that we almost view as the leader or a best friend that we always want to be around even if they're not good for us. Laura Dugger: That's so true. I think even in my own life at the new year was 2020 and I was listening to a message, a sermon, they were kind of talking about this topic and just what do you need to let go of in your life maybe that you don't even want a part of it, but you don't recognize how much it's taking over you? And for me, it was false guilt. So what you're saying, just following blindly, I don't want that to be a part of my life. But as a 34-year-old woman, I'm still battling that frequently. So how much more would our children be experiencing this? Julie Roth: That's right. I think that that's what makes me so excited about the opportunity to speak into our children to understand their emotions and then use scripture to help them rightly interpret their emotions. [00:11:11] Because if at age 5 or 9 or 15 they have tools and they're in a regular habit of utilizing those tools to discern, why am I feeling this way, is it appropriate, should I, is it biblical, if they're able to identify that there is an emotion there that might want to motivate or influence their thinking or actions, how beautiful the life that they get to navigate with those tools and that knowledge. Laura Dugger: It overflows into so many areas. And it's so life-giving to other people in addition to themselves. So now that you've laid this foundation and we have some of these questions we can begin to ask our kids, let's flip the script. What questions can we begin to now ask ourselves to make sure that we're approaching this with the correct posture? Julie Roth: I started asking questions of myself because I kept finding myself failing with my communication with my children. [00:12:17] I would find myself almost at wit's end not understanding why the wisdom or truth that I valued was not connecting with them. And so I started to ask these questions. The first is, is this the right time for me to speak into my child? I think there are two components to that. One, where's my child at? So are they emotional to a degree that they're not able to hear me? So it could be super excited, it could be very tired, it could be angry. When my children are tired, just to use that middle example, they are not good listeners. They don't have it almost in their body to either sit still or to focus. So I learned that it was foolish of me to use a lot of words during those times of my children being tired because it wasn't helping them. [00:13:19] It was torturing them, probably, and just infuriating me. So where are they at to maybe receive whatever wisdom that I want to share? But on the flip side, where am I at? And where are my emotions? Am I distracted? Am I tired? Am I angry? Am I pursuing their good or my own agenda? So there has to be that pause for me to say, "Okay, I've observed this in my child. I think it needs to be addressed. But is this the time to do it?" Laura Dugger: I love it. So starting with taking inventory of where everyone is. Are there any other questions that you walk through for yourself? Julie Roth: Absolutely. Once I determine that the message to be conveyed can be received, I need to check with myself, where are we at in the relationship? What relational capital do I have to speak into this particular child? [00:14:21] More often than not, it'll be okay. But there are times and seasons where when I will not necessarily connect with one child, and we just seem to be out of sync. And in those season…

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    John 14:27 “Peace I leave with you; my peace I give you. I do not give to you as the world gives. Do not let your hearts be troubled and do not be afraid.”

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    Gospel Scripture: (all NIV)

    Romans 3:23 “for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,”

    Romans 3:24 “and are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus.”

    Romans 3:25 (a) “God presented him as a sacrifice of atonement, through faith in his blood.”

    Hebrews 9:22 (b) “without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness.”

    Romans 5:8 “But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us.”

    Romans 5:11 “Not only is this so, but we also rejoice in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received reconciliation.”

    John 3:16 “For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.”

    Romans 10:9 “That if you confess with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.”

    Luke 15:10 says “In the same way, I tell you, there is rejoicing in the presence of the angels of God over one sinner who repents.”

    Romans 8:1 “Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus”

    Ephesians 1:13–14 “And you also were included in Christ when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation. Having believed, you were marked in him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit, who is a deposit guaranteeing our inheritance until the redemption of those who are God’s possession- to the praise of his glory.”

    Ephesians 1:15–23 “For this reason, ever since I heard about your faith in the Lord Jesus and your love for all the saints, I have not stopped giving thanks for you, remembering you in my prayers. I keep asking that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the glorious Father, may give you the spirit of wisdom and revelation, so that you may know him better. I pray also that the eyes of your heart may be enlightened in order that you may know the hope to which he has called you, the riches of his glorious inheritance in the saints, and his incomparably great power for us who believe. That power is like the working of his mighty strength, which he exerted in Christ when he raised him from the dead and seated him at his right hand in the heavenly realms, far above all rule and authority, power and dominion, and every title that can be given, not only in the present age but also in the one to come. And God placed all things under his feet and appointed him to be head over everything for the church, which is his body, the fullness of him who fills everything in every way.”

    Ephesians 2:8–10 “For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith – and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God – not by works, so that no one can boast. For we are God‘s workmanship, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do.“

    Ephesians 2:13 “But now in Christ Jesus you who once were far away have been brought near through the blood of Christ.“

    Philippians 1:6 “being confident of this, that he who began a good work in you will carry it on to completion until the day of Christ Jesus.”


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