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ETHCC Convos: Mantle Mainnet Is LIVE! How To Take Advantage Aug 12, 2023

Show notes

We are “The Rollup” so were supposed to talk about rollups, right? Well, I must say it hasn’t been very difficult to find talking points from ETHCC.

It truly felt like the entire conference was focused on Ethereum scaling and L2s.

Mantle picked the right time to go live!

In todays interview I spoke with Arjun who’s leading the ecosystem at Mantle about what makes them different in a world of 1000s of rollups. We also touched on the importance of making it easy for devs and builders to bring liquidity and talent to Mantle.

Arjun made some very good points about their commitment to SUPPORT that all users and devs should hear!

They want you to win.

They will help you win.

Good stuff in this interview. Hope you enjoy.

𝗪𝗲 𝘁𝗿𝘆 𝗼𝘂𝗿 𝗯𝗲𝘀𝘁 𝘁𝗼 𝗽𝗿𝗼𝗱𝘂𝗰𝗲 𝗵𝗶𝗴𝗵-𝗾𝘂𝗮𝗹𝗶𝘁𝘆, 𝗻𝗼𝗻-𝗯𝗶𝗮𝘀𝗲𝗱, 𝗲𝗱𝘂𝗰𝗮𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻𝗮𝗹 𝗰𝗼𝗻𝘁𝗲𝗻𝘁 𝗳𝗼𝗿 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗰𝗿𝘆𝗽𝘁𝗼 𝗲𝗰𝗼𝘀𝘆𝘀𝘁𝗲𝗺. 𝗦𝘂𝗽𝗽𝗼𝗿𝘁 𝘂𝘀 𝘄𝗵𝗶𝗹𝗲 𝗹𝗲𝗮𝗿𝗻𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗺𝗼𝗿𝗲 𝗮𝗯𝗼𝘂𝘁 𝗶𝗺𝗽𝗼𝗿𝘁𝗮𝗻𝘁 𝗰𝗼𝗻𝗰𝗲𝗽𝘁𝘀 𝗯𝘆 𝗰𝗹𝗶𝗰𝗸𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗮𝗻𝘆 𝗼𝗳 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗹𝗶𝗻𝗸𝘀 𝗯𝗲𝗹𝗼𝘄 𝗳𝗼𝗿 𝗳𝗿𝗲𝗲 𝗿𝗲𝘀𝗼𝘂𝗿𝗰𝗲𝘀:

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𝗗𝗜𝗦𝗖𝗟𝗔𝗜𝗠𝗘𝗥: 𝘐𝘯𝘷𝘦𝘴𝘵𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘪𝘯 𝘤𝘳𝘺𝘱𝘵𝘰𝘤𝘶𝘳𝘳𝘦𝘯𝘤𝘺 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘋𝘦𝘍𝘪 𝘱𝘭𝘢𝘵𝘧𝘰𝘳𝘮𝘴 𝘤𝘰𝘮𝘦𝘴 𝘸𝘪𝘵𝘩 𝘪𝘯𝘩𝘦𝘳𝘦𝘯𝘵 𝘳𝘪𝘴𝘬𝘴 𝘪𝘯𝘤𝘭𝘶𝘥𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘵𝘦𝘤𝘩𝘯𝘪𝘤𝘢𝘭 𝘳𝘪𝘴𝘬, 𝘩𝘶𝘮𝘢𝘯 𝘦𝘳𝘳𝘰𝘳, 𝘱𝘭𝘢𝘵𝘧𝘰𝘳𝘮 𝘧𝘢𝘪𝘭𝘶𝘳𝘦 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘮𝘰𝘳𝘦. 𝘈𝘵 𝘤𝘦𝘳𝘵𝘢𝘪𝘯 𝘱𝘰𝘪𝘯𝘵𝘴 𝘵𝘩𝘳𝘰𝘶𝘨𝘩𝘰𝘶𝘵 𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘴 𝘤𝘩𝘢𝘯𝘯𝘦𝘭, 𝘸𝘦 𝘮𝘢𝘺 𝘦𝘢𝘳𝘯 𝘢 𝘤𝘰𝘮𝘮𝘪𝘴𝘴𝘪𝘰𝘯 𝘰𝘳 𝘧𝘦𝘦 𝘢𝘴 𝘢 𝘴𝘱𝘰𝘯𝘴𝘰𝘳𝘴𝘩𝘪𝘱, 𝘪𝘧 𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘴 𝘪𝘴 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘤𝘢𝘴𝘦 𝘸𝘦 𝘸𝘪𝘭𝘭 𝘢𝘭𝘸𝘢𝘺𝘴 𝘮𝘢𝘬𝘦 𝘴𝘶𝘳𝘦 𝘪𝘵 𝘪𝘴 𝘤𝘭𝘦𝘢𝘳. 𝘞𝘦 𝘢𝘳𝘦 𝘴𝘵𝘳𝘪𝘤𝘵𝘭𝘺 𝘢𝘯 𝘦𝘥𝘶𝘤𝘢𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯𝘢𝘭 𝘤𝘰𝘯𝘵𝘦𝘯𝘵 𝘱𝘭𝘢𝘵𝘧𝘰𝘳𝘮, 𝘯𝘰𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘸𝘦 𝘰𝘧𝘧𝘦𝘳 𝘪𝘴 𝘧𝘪𝘯𝘢𝘯𝘤𝘪𝘢𝘭 𝘢𝘥𝘷𝘪𝘤𝘦. 𝘞𝘦 𝘢𝘳𝘦 𝘯𝘰𝘵 𝘱𝘳𝘰𝘧𝘦𝘴𝘴𝘪𝘰𝘯𝘢𝘭𝘴 𝘰𝘳 𝘭𝘪𝘤𝘦𝘯𝘴𝘦𝘥 𝘢𝘥𝘷𝘪𝘴𝘰𝘳𝘴.

DeFi by Design EP103: Fintech Mega Goliath on Brand Trust and Consumer Behaviour in Web3 w/ Worldpay Head of Growth Aug 10, 2023

Show notes

Most of our network consists of builders and degens who are numb to bear markets after surviving for so long. This conversation was a first of its kind. Firstly, Worldpay and FIS are truly an institution, and one of the largest in the Fintech space with over a trillion dollars of settlement volume. Secondly, setting the limit of tradFi has let Worldpay break into Web3 with force. This is what we learned…

It starts with infrastructure. In fact, fintech companies prefer the ultra-technical term DLT (Distributed Ledger Technology) to blockchain because blockchains are still cast in shadows, associated with the shady world of crypto making it untrustworthy to consumers.

This was key to another important realization from my conversation with Mina. Applications that try to change consumer behavior will not win. Consumers won’t change their behavior to fit your shiny narrative. Consumers trust brands, and have loyalty to products built by those brands because those brands know their consumer behavior. It is more likely end consumers use products from brands they already trust.

Change yourself before you try to change the world.

My conversation with Mina taught me valuable lessons about consumer behavior, strategies to grow our business to trillions in size and how to connect massive fintech brands to emerging blockchain technology.

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DeFi by Design EP102: The Most Capital Efficient Leverage Layer in DeFi Jul 25, 2023

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We love speaking with projects that have been building since the early days in DeFi. Often times the ones who have survived have achieved a solid PMF, have a great time, and will have runway for the long haul.One of these is definitely Gearbox. Led by ivangbi & LobsterDAO frees, Gearbox is revolutionizing the leverage yield space by providing a base layer of leverage for DeFi.They have a huge announcement coming out on Tuesday and I got some alpha from the team at ETHCC in Paris.Hint: There’s a great opportunity coming.Today’s podcast is a breakdown of what’s possible & what’s to come with Gearbox!

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DeFi by Design EP101: How LayerZero Plans To Takeover The Digital World with Bryan Pellegrino Jul 13, 2023

Show notes

Imagine if there was a technology stack that could underpin everything from decentralized finance to social media networks, instant messaging, and more.

Now…

Imagine if the team had raised $120M and practically has “infinite runway” according to the CEO.Then, picture the project has the highest volume of cross-chain messaging in all of DeFi currently.

And finally, the team has made strategic design decisions strictly focused on the ethos of building trestles, permission less, censorship resistance tech!

Introducing: Bryan Pellegrino, CEO of LayerZero labs who schooled Rob and I on:

⁃ Building a massive vision of scalable tech⁃ Trying to create the infrastructure for billions of users across vast use cases⁃ Disrupting many ‘intermediaries’ and making a profit while doing so⁃ Expanding the crypto ecosystem one step at a time

I think you’ll thoroughly enjoy this one fam. Much love.

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DeFi by Design EP 💯: The Ultimate Cross-Chain API w Philipp Zentner CEO of Li.Fi Jul 06, 2023

Show notes

Today’s episode with Philipp shows the ultimate power of blockchain interop. When projects come together and combine tech it allows everyone to specialize, and divide and conquer. This is something Li.Fi does best. They were able to partner their way to promiseland because it “rolls up” every bridge into one beautiful user experience. Any time you need to bridge or swap, check Li.Fi to see which bridge is fastest and cheapest. Philipp also shares his story about Li.Fi growth, the birth of Jumper, the massive fundraising tour, and surviving market conditions to thrive in the best of times. Thank you to Philipp and Li.Fi for this phenomenal episode, and thank you to all our sponsors and 99 previous guests on DeFi by Design.

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DeFi by Design EP99: Unpacking Cairo 1.0 and zkRollup Scaling Jun 08, 2023

Show notes

Recently we have been beating the drum on the possibilities of zKRollup technology, StarkNet, and account abstraction…And for good reason!

Very soon StarkNet will undergo one of the most important updates in all of its history: A major increase in the transaction per second (TPS) capabilities as part of the implementation of Cairo 1.0! This upgrade comes with much friendlier and adaptable programming language parameters meant to onboard new developers to StarkNet and enable innovative dApps to be built!

In today’s podcast I sit down with Peteris, CEO @ Yagi.fi, and we discuss the future of StarkNet, rollup scaling potential outcomes, layer 3s, and his thoughts on everything StarkNet!

I thoroughly enjoyed this conversation and I think you will too, so sit back, relax and enjoy as you are take a journey into the future of Ethereum scaling✅

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DeFi by Design EP98: ZK Scalability, Nested Rollups, and Blockchain Architecture w Langrange Jun 01, 2023

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I hope you're ready.

This is one of our deepest DeFi by Design podcasts. We're gonna get right into it.

Lagrange Labs is a developer group hyper-focused on Ethereum scalability. As you probably know, there are two main solutions to scale Ethereum - optimistic rollups and Zk rollups. Lagrange is aware of mathematical nuances to make Zk rollups functional and interoperable multichain - we call them nested rollups.

This means Lagrange has a secure, interoperable, and multichain communication protocol to scale throughput on new and existing blockchain networks. It's difficult to describe Lagrange in simple terms because they connect several key components of Ethereum's roadmap to achieve mass adoption scale.

For a thorough discussion of Zk technology - listen to this podcast.

For insights on modular app-chains - listen to this podcast.

A tasteful discussion on mathematics and blockchain tech awaits.

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DeFi by Design EP97: Why Braavos Wallet Will Surpass MetaMask in 2024 May 25, 2023

Show notes

I have been so, so bullish on Account Abstraction since my first interactions with the StarkNet community.

Its very important that you understand why, and how this simple but complex feature will totally change the wallet experience for all new users in DeFi.

First things first, I believe a lot of the new users in DeFi will be onboarded through mobile-friendly applications that are much more secure and understandable than our current browser extension wallets.

Braavos is pioneering this, with their security pyramid, easy to use wallet UX and massive StarkNet community.

They have tons of initiatives right now, and with a lurking $STRK airdrop, you’ll want to pay attention to this one.

We also dropped some alpha and a secret word a few times towards the end of the show with Motty, co-founder of Braavos. There is a ____ reward for those who have the best comment and get the secret word!

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DeFi by Design EP96: From Payments to Overthrowing the Government with BEN leader Erick Pinos May 04, 2023

Show notes

Our guest for today’s video is a true OG. In fact, he leads Blockchain Education Network, BEN, which gave The Rollup an early opportunity to participate at conferences in Miami and Washington DC.

Erick Pinos joins The Rollup for his educatooor arc as leader of BEN’s network of university blockchain organizations.

University groups are increasingly influential in DeFi’s top DAOs as delegates. Following Optimism’s TGE a16z delegated 7 million OP to protocol politicians, 6 million of which went to university groups including UPenn and London Business School. BEN hosted the delegate meetup for a16z’s delegation in Decentraland.

We traverse the entire landscape of blockchain chronology in this episode, from payments to government innovation.

You don’t want to miss this one.

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DeFi by Design EP95: Blockchain Infrastructure at Scale w Connext Founder Arjun Bhuptani Apr 27, 2023

Show notes

Innit interesting building in a bear market. A pump here and there doesn't hurt but we are enjoying the thoughtful conversations with those building decentralized tech to change the world (and perhaps their wallet a bit along the way).

The mood in this market trough is settling. The weak hands are almost all shaken out and those left standing are the builders or the diamond hands with unwavering conviction. In the long run, if you survive, you win.

Today we talk to Founder of Connext, Arjun Bhuptani, who is building for the long haul. We explore a vision of decentralized landscape which is disjointed to this day. Connext provides inter-chain communication infrastructure to connect Web3 so it may fulfill its potential applications at scale.

You won't want to miss this one. Enjoy!

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