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    The Pain Trade Podcast

    The Pain Trade Podcast — what it costs, and what it pays.

    In markets, the pain trade is the position that hurts to hold, and pays because it hurts. Every field has one: the last rep, the lean years, the comeback nobody expected.

    Weekly in-studio conversations with people who overcame what should have broken them — in business, in markets, in health, in life.

    Hosted by Michael A. Gayed, CFA — active portfolio manager, five-time Dow Award winner, founder of Lead-Lag Media, and publisher of The Lead-Lag Report.

    Health, fitness, finance, entrepreneurship, and the struggle that connects them. New episodes weekly.

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    Sal Gilberti on Agricultural Market Dynamics, Geopolitical Influences, and Strategic Investment Opportunities Feb 07, 2025
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    Unlock the secrets of agricultural markets with Sal Gilberti as we unpack the dynamics behind key commodities like corn and wheat. Discover how these markets are influenced by a web of factors, from unpredictable weather patterns to the global ripple effects of the Russia-Ukraine conflict. Sal shares his insights on price rationing and the cyclical nature of grain production, offering a promising perspective on corn prices that could reshape your investment strategy.
    Peek into the world of agricultural commodities as a surprisingly predictable market, offering unique diversification opportunities. With global demand for essential crops hitting record highs, we explore strategic timing and allocation tactics that could bolster your portfolio. Sal and I discuss why advisors are increasingly suggesting multi-commodity ETFs, providing practical strategies for those ready to capitalize on agricultural trends.
    Navigating the complexities of leveraged funds and market volatility, we shed light on the suitability of these investments for the short-term trader. Learn how geopolitical events can amplify market movements and discover why inflation is a crucial factor in agricultural commodities. Sal's expertise provides clarity on the political and logistical hurdles of global food distribution, arming you with the knowledge to make informed investment decisions without getting bogged down by technicalities.

    DISCLAIMER – PLEASE READ: This is a sponsored episode for which Lead-Lag Publishing, LLC has been paid a fee. Lead-Lag Publishing, LLC does not guarantee the accuracy or completeness of the information provided in the episode or make any representation as to its quality. All statements and expressions provided in this episode are the sole opinion of Teucrium and Lead-Lag Publishing, LLC expressly disclaims any responsibility for action taken in connection with the information provided in the discussion. The content in this program is for informational purposes only. You should not construe any information or other material as investment, financial, tax, or other advice. The views expressed by the participants are solely their own. A participant may have taken or recommended any investment position discussed, but may close such position or alter its recommendation at any time without notice. Nothing contained in this program constitutes a solicitation, recommendation, endorsement, or offer to buy or sell any securities or other financial instruments in any jurisdiction. Please consult your own investment or financial advisor for advice related to all investment decisions.


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    Craig Shapiro on Fed Policy Impacts, AI’s Financial Role, and Strategic Market Adaptations Feb 05, 2025
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    Craig Shapiro, esteemed hedge fund expert and macro strategist for the Bear Traps Report, joins us for a compelling exploration of the intricate world of Federal Reserve policies and their interplay with artificial intelligence. Unravel the complexities of recent monetary decisions amidst a politically charged atmosphere, as we dissect the impacts on bond markets and business confidence. With inflationary pressures mounting, Craig offers his insightful take on the potential consequences and future directions of Fed policies in a landscape fraught with uncertainty.
    The conversation takes a strategic turn as we navigate the global investment scene, spotlighting the surge of interest in zero data expiry options for indices like the S&P and NASDAQ. Discover how traditional hedges are reshaping investor tactics amid macroeconomic unpredictability and why equity volatility might be underappreciated right now. From the allure of gold as a fiscal hedge to the implications of geopolitical turbulence on treasury investments, we examine scenarios that could catalyze another S&P surge and evaluate the economic ripple effects of potential Trump policy maneuvers.
    Our dialogue rounds off by examining Bitcoin's burgeoning role as an alternative store of value amidst global instability. Compare its potential with that of gold and real estate, and consider the geopolitical ramifications of nations folding Bitcoin into their reserves. With deregulation under Trump's lens and opportunities for small-cap growth amidst rising borrowing costs, we reflect on the US's evolving role in a multilateral world. Craig highlights the enduring value of balancing qualitative insights with quantitative data, emphasizing relationship-building within the financial sector. Don't miss Craig's seasoned insights and practical reflections on today's pressing economic issues.


    The content in this program is for informational purposes only. You should not construe any information or other material as investment, financial, tax, or other advice. The views expressed by the participants are solely their own. A participant may have taken or recommended any investment position discussed, but may close such position or alter its recommendation at any time without notice. Nothing contained in this program constitutes a solicitation, recommendation, endorsement, or offer to buy or sell any securities or other financial instruments in any jurisdiction. Please consult your own investment or financial advisor for advice related to all investment decisions.

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    Dynamic Portfolio Strategies for a Shifting Financial Landscape with Brad Barrie and Matt O'Brian Feb 04, 2025
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    Unlock the secrets of crafting a robust investment portfolio with insights that challenge conventional wisdom. Join me, Michael Gayed, alongside experts Matt O'Brian and Brad Barrie, as we explore the critical role of diversification and the potential risks when concentration takes center stage. We'll unravel the intricacies of true diversification, discuss "line item risk," and emphasize why preparation should be prioritized over prediction in the ever-volatile market landscape.
    Our conversation ventures into the uncharted territory of risk management by challenging traditional views on asset allocation. With insights from Harry Markowitz and our guests' expertise in tactical management, we highlight the necessity of understanding varying risk profiles rather than simply spreading investments across asset classes. As we dissect the influence of market psychology and valuation metrics, you'll learn how these elements affect investment decisions, especially during economic downturns.
    Discover innovative strategies for navigating complex market environments through mutual funds and global macro hedge fund approaches. This episode uncovers the often-overlooked advantages of mutual funds in less traditional asset classes and their synergy with hedge fund strategies. As markets continue to shift, we advocate for tactical active approaches and flexible portfolio management, ensuring you're equipped to adapt and thrive in a fluid financial world.

    DISCLAIMER – PLEASE READ: This is a sponsored episode for which Lead-Lag Publishing, LLC has been paid a fee. Lead-Lag Publishing, LLC does not guarantee the accuracy or completeness of the information provided in the episode or make any representation as to its quality. All statements and expressions provided in this episode are the sole opinion of Dynamic Wealth Group and Lead-Lag Publishing, LLC expressly disclaims any responsibility for action taken in connection with the information provided in the discussion. The content in this program is for informational purposes only. You should not construe any information or other material as investment, financial, tax, or other advice. The views expressed by the participants are solely their own. A participant may have taken or recommended any investment position discussed, but may close such position or alter its recommendation at any time without notice. Nothing contained in this program constitutes a solicitation, recommendation, endorsement, or offer to buy or sell any securities or other financial instruments in any jurisdiction. Please consult your own investment or financial advisor for advice related to all investment decisions.

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    Chris Getter of Simplify, and Anupam Ghose on India's Economic Evolution, Investment Strategies, and Market Opportunities Feb 02, 2025
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    What if investing in India could unlock unprecedented growth opportunities for your portfolio? Join us as we unravel the dynamic transformation of India's entrepreneurial and economic landscape, highlighting insights from Chris Getter of Simplify, and Anupam Ghose from System 2 Advisors. With first-hand accounts of navigating the complexities of India's evolving market, this episode offers a front-row seat to understanding India's mercantilist roots, its challenges during the 1980s, and the remarkable shift toward a thriving global economy.
    Embark on a historical journey from India's socialist beginnings under Jawaharlal Nehru to the groundbreaking economic liberalization of the 1990s. Witness how a balance of payments crisis became a catalyst for foreign investment and growth, particularly in the IT sector. We also contrast India's rise with its BRICS counterparts, examining its burgeoning presence in global bond indices and the expanding corporate bond market. Gain insight into the factors that make India a standout economy, with a keen focus on its unique consumption-driven structure.
    Our discussion then shifts gears to investment strategies in India's market, spotlighting the India Fund I-O-P-P managed by Simplify. Learn how Anupam and his team navigate the intricacies of Indian ETFs, employing a strategic approach to identify high-growth opportunities. We'll explore regulatory hurdles, democratic challenges, and compare India’s economic structure with China’s. This comprehensive analysis provides a nuanced view of emerging market investments, offering strategies to capitalize on India's promising growth potential.

    DISCLAIMER – PLEASE READ: This is a sponsored episode for which Lead-Lag Publishing, LLC has been paid a fee. Lead-Lag Publishing, LLC does not guarantee the accuracy or completeness of the information provided in the episode or make any representation as to its quality. All statements and expressions provided in this episode are the sole opinion of Simplify Management and Lead-Lag Publishing, LLC expressly disclaims any responsibility for action taken in connection with the information provided in the discussion. The content in this program is for informational purposes only. You should not construe any information or other material as investment, financial, tax, or other advice. The views expressed by the participants are solely their own. A participant may have taken or recommended any investment position discussed, but may close such position or alter its recommendation at any time without notice. Nothing contained in this program constitutes a solicitation, recommendation, endorsement, or offer to buy or sell any securities

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    Craig Brockie on Gut Health Challenges, Naturopathic Turnaround, and Embracing Holistic Wellness Feb 01, 2025
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    After years of struggling with chronic health issues, Craig Brockie found himself questioning the effectiveness of traditional Western medicine, particularly after experiencing the disruptive effects of antibiotics like tetracycline on his microbiome. Craig joins us to share his personal journey from battling acne and anxiety to embracing naturopathic medicine and other holistic practices. Together, we explore the limitations of Western medical paradigms focused on medication and surgery, and advocate for alternative solutions that promote long-term wellness.
    Our conversation dives deep into the complex relationship between gut health and overall wellness, highlighting how anxiety and chronic pain can be linked to what we consume. I recount my own struggles with chronic pain and anxiety, which led me to seek help from a naturopathic doctor, revealing issues like leaky gut syndrome and Candida overgrowth. We emphasize the importance of maintaining balanced gut flora disrupted by antibiotics and processed foods, offering insights into managing one's health through education and self-care, citing resources like Dr. William Davis's "Super Gut."
    We also venture into the intriguing realms of allergy testing, peptides, and GMOs. Craig provides insights into the benefits of amino acids and the concerns surrounding agricultural practices, while we touch on the evolving trend towards integrative medicine. Our discussion is filled with practical advice and personal stories that inspire listeners to take control of their health journey, challenging conventional approaches and exploring holistic pathways to wellness.

    The content in this program is for informational purposes only. You should not construe any information or other material as investment, financial, tax, or other advice. The views expressed by the participants are solely their own. A participant may have taken or recommended any investment position discussed, but may close such position or alter its recommendation at any time without notice. Nothing contained in this program constitutes a solicitation, recommendation, endorsement, or offer to buy or sell any securities or other financial instruments in any jurisdiction. Please consult your own investment or financial advisor for advice related to all investment decisions.

    Sign up to The Lead-Lag Report on Substack and get 30% off the annual subscription today by visiting http://theleadlag.report/leadlaglive.


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    Howard Chan on Advanced ETF Insights, Technology Market Shifts, and Strategic Income Generation Jan 31, 2025
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    Ready to uncover the secrets of advanced investment strategies in today's evolving market landscape? We're thrilled to have Howard Chan, the founder and CEO of Kurv Investment Management, join us. With a background in electrical engineering and critical roles at Goldman Sachs and PIMCO, Howard shares his unique insights into asset allocation and fixed income management. Discover how regulatory changes have paved the way for more innovative and tax-efficient ETF strategies, making them accessible to a wider audience. Howard reveals the shifting dynamics of alpha and beta, and how fewer institutional players can create new anomalies and opportunities for generating returns.
    As interest rates rise, the investment world is shifting from passive to more active strategies, and the importance of idiosyncratic risk has never been higher. We're diving into the complexities of options-based income strategies, exploring how these can be transformed into accessible ETF formats. Howard guides us through the nuanced processes needed to balance growth and income, especially for those nearing retirement. He shares the challenges advisors face in scaling these intricate strategies and how technology-focused ETFs targeting tech giants like Amazon and Tesla can offer a solution. Learn how volatility premiums can be leveraged, providing a steady income stream while managing risk.
    Our discussion wouldn't be complete without a thorough examination of the current tech market landscape. From the impact of fiscal policies and tariffs to the promising yet cyclical AI sector, Howard shares his perspective on tech companies' future. We delve into the challenges and opportunities of monetizing new technologies, exploring how launching new funds can address advisor needs and solve portfolio problems. With insights into covered call strategies and single-stock ETFs, Howard equips us with the knowledge to navigate the intersection of technology and income strategies effectively. Whether you're an advisor or an investor, this episode offers a comprehensive guide to mastering modern investment techniques.
    DISCLAIMER – PLEASE READ: This is a sponsored episode for which Lead-Lag Publishing, LLC has been paid a fee. Lead-Lag Publishing, LLC does not guarantee the accuracy or completeness of the information provided in the episode or make any representation as to its quality. All statements and expressions provided in this episode are the sole opinion of Kurv Investment Management and Lead-Lag Publishing, LLC expressly disclaims any responsibility for action taken in connection with the information provided in the discussion. The content in this program is for informational purposes only. You should not construe any information or other material as investment, financial, tax, or other advice. The views expressed by the participants are solely their own. A participant may have taken or recommended any investment position discussed, but may close such position or alter its recommendation at any time without notice. Nothing contained in this program constitutes a solicitation, recommendation, endorsement, or offer to buy or sell any securities or other financial instruments in any jurisdiction. Please consult your own investment or financial advisor for advice related to all investment decisions.

    Sign up to The Lead-Lag Report on Substack and get 30% off the annual subscription today by visiting http://theleadlag.report/leadlaglive.


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    Mike Larson on Offensive Investment Styles, Global Diversification, and 2025 Market Trends Jan 29, 2025
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    Join me, Michael Gayed, and my esteemed guest Mike Larson, Editor-in-Chief at Money Show, as we unravel the bold investment strategies that have reshaped the financial landscape in 2023. Discover how offensive investing styles have not only outperformed but also paved the way for potential recovery in the bond market, particularly high-quality treasuries. We delve into the vibrant Money Show events in Las Vegas, a hotbed of dynamic investment insights, featuring luminaries like Ralph Acampora and Dan Ives who bring a wealth of knowledge from technical analysis to energy and economic strategies.
    Looking ahead to 2025, we examine the transition from tech-heavy portfolios to a broader sector approach, with energy, industrials, materials, and financials taking center stage. Listen as we dissect the potential impacts of Trump administration policies on U.S.-based companies and the shift towards increased credit growth opportunities. Our annual top picks report, boasting insights from over 44 expert contributors, reveals a diverse array of conservative and aggressive investment recommendations, offering invaluable guidance for navigating the evolving market.
    The conversation then broadens to a global perspective, highlighting the resurgence of value investing, the potential of small-cap stocks, and the critical importance of international diversification. We explore the energy sector with insights from Robert Bryce and consider the implications of deregulation on financial and real estate markets. As we conclude, I extend an invitation to the upcoming Money Show in Las Vegas, promising an enriching experience filled with networking, learning, and engaging discussions. This episode is a treasure trove of investment wisdom, tailored for both seasoned investors and those just starting their financial journey.
    The content in this program is for informational purposes only. You should not construe any information or other material as investment, financial, tax, or other advice. The views expressed by the participants are solely their own. A participant may have taken or recommended any investment position discussed, but may close such position or alter its recommendation at any time without notice. Nothing contained in this program constitutes a solicitation, recommendation, endorsement, or offer to buy or sell any securities or other financial instruments in any jurisdiction. Please consult your own investment or financial advisor for advice related to all investment decisions.

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    Michael Gayed on Reverse Carry Trade Dynamics, AI’s Market Influence, and Independent Investment Strategies Jan 28, 2025
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    Prepare to challenge everything you thought you knew about the macroeconomic landscape as we welcome Michael Gayed, the insightful founder of the Lead Lag Report, to dissect the future of global markets with a particular glance at 2025. With a bold statement about the reverse carry trade, especially through the lens of Japan's unique financial environment, Michael draws connections between low interest rates, currency strength, and international borrowing dynamics. Listen as he unravels the potential turmoil Japan could face due to inflation and currency issues, and shares captivating anecdotes, including a follower's experience with the carry trade from Honduras.
    Anticipate a transformation in market dynamics as we examine the rise of AI and its influence on small caps versus large caps, questioning the long-standing dominance of tech since 2011. Younger investors are entering the market, and with them comes a thirst for high returns, leading us to analyze the unforeseen outcomes of the Fed's rate hike cycle and Yellen's interventions. Our dialogue navigates through the concerns of inflation and the looming concentration bubble in top stocks, scrutinizing the persistent efforts by policymakers to keep markets afloat amidst downturns.
    Step outside the echo chamber of financial groupthink with us, as we advocate for independent thinking and critical analysis in market strategies. We call into question the YOLO mentality and meme-driven investment tactics while discussing the ineffectiveness of shorting. For those eager to deepen their understanding, we recommend resources like Onyx and the Lead Lag Report. The episode concludes with an exploration of skepticism surrounding AI's economic impact, potential market reactions to policy changes from figures like Donald Trump, and the volatile role of Bitcoin during credit events.
    The content in this program is for informational purposes only. You should not construe any information or other material as investment, financial, tax, or other advice. The views expressed by the participants are solely their own. A participant may have taken or recommended any investment position discussed, but may close such position or alter its recommendation at any time without notice. Nothing contained in this program constitutes a solicitation, recommendation, endorsement, or offer to buy or sell any securities or other financial instruments in any jurisdiction. Please consult your own investment or financial advisor for advice related to all investment decisions.

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    Michael Gayed on Market Manipulation Myths, Deregulation Impacts, and Strategic Investment Opportunities Jan 26, 2025
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    What if everything you thought you knew about the financial markets was wrong? Join us as we welcome back seasoned market analyst Michael Gayed to dissect the pervasive notion of market manipulation. Together, we unravel the intricate roles that liquidity and algorithms play in shaping the financial landscape. As we navigate through the current state of limbo, Michael provides a thought-provoking analysis on how potential political shifts, specifically a Trump presidency, might reshape the regulatory environment and offer new prospects for small and mid-sized companies. This episode is a must-listen for anyone eager to understand the balancing act of offensive and defensive investment strategies in these unpredictable times.
    The conversation takes an intriguing turn as we explore the dynamics of stock market shifts, particularly how sudden price declines can present opportunities for dollar cost averaging. We scrutinize the performance of the Russell 2000 against the S&P 500 and explore how deregulation could potentially boost small-cap stocks. Michael and I critically examine the Federal Reserve's past rate decisions and discuss the implications of rising 10-year treasury yields, all while questioning the traditional perceptions of market behaviors. By assessing the impact of tariffs and inflation on economic policy, we provide a comprehensive look at the factors influencing today's market conditions.
    To round out our discussion, we venture into the speculative realms of gold and cryptocurrency, examining how excess liquidity fuels over-optimism among investors. Geopolitical tensions add another layer of complexity, impacting oil prices and investment strategies. We also discuss the merits of diversifying into undervalued sectors like miners, small caps, and emerging markets, while acknowledging the challenges hedge funds face in keeping pace with the S&P 500. This episode is packed with valuable insights that equip investors to navigate and capitalize on the shifting market dynamics with a well-balanced and informed approach.
    The content in this program is for informational purposes only. You should not construe any information or other material as investment, financial, tax, or other advice. The views expressed by the participants are solely their own. A participant may have taken or recommended any investment position discussed, but may close such position or alter its recommendation at any time without notice. Nothing contained in this program constitutes a solicitation, recommendation, endorsement, or offer to buy or sell any securities or other financial instruments in any jurisdiction. Please consult your own investment or financial advisor for advice related to all investment decisions.

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    Walter Deemer on Small Cap Potential, Historical Market Parallels, and Navigating Speculative Trends Jan 24, 2025
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    Walter Deemer joins us to unravel the fascinating dynamics of small caps versus large caps in today's stock market, sparking the question: Are small caps the unsung heroes poised to lead future market trends? Together, we examine historical market parallels, particularly the early 1970s, and discuss whether we're witnessing a repeat of those cycles or something entirely new. Key insights are shared on sector weight differences and the potential impact of speculative behavior among younger traders, raising the possibility of small caps rallying independently in a healthier market environment.
    Listeners will gain a deeper understanding of market trends and investing strategies as we dissect historical behaviors, using McDonald's performance in the 1970s as a case study. We explore the implications of buying during market dips and how the post-quantitative easing era has redefined investor mentality. The conversation also addresses the potential for a "lost decade" of market stagnation and the importance of adapting to changing conditions with a long-term perspective. Insights into the current relevance of the bond market and the unique challenges faced by different generations round out this comprehensive discussion.
    With crypto assets lacking traditional fundamentals, we delve into their suitability for technical analysis and compare the current tech dominance to historical patterns like the Nifty 50. Personal trading strategies, including inverse ETFs and shorting, are discussed alongside a pragmatic approach to technical analysis, stressing simplicity and practical wisdom over complexity. We close with an exploration of small-cap stocks' potential risks and rewards, drawing upon historical comparisons and encouraging listeners to stay informed through social media channels. Join us for a rich conversation filled with market insights and trading strategies that promise to enhance your investing acumen.
    The content in this program is for informational purposes only. You should not construe any information or other material as investment, financial, tax, or other advice. The views expressed by the participants are solely their own. A participant may have taken or recommended any investment position discussed, but may close such position or alter its recommendation at any time without notice. Nothing contained in this program constitutes a solicitation, recommendation, endorsement, or offer to buy or sell any securities or other financial instruments in any jurisdiction. Please consult your own investment or financial advisor for advice related to all investment decisions.

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