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    The Pain Trade Podcast

    The Pain Trade Podcast — what it costs, and what it pays.

    In markets, the pain trade is the position that hurts to hold, and pays because it hurts. Every field has one: the last rep, the lean years, the comeback nobody expected.

    Weekly in-studio conversations with people who overcame what should have broken them — in business, in markets, in health, in life.

    Hosted by Michael A. Gayed, CFA — active portfolio manager, five-time Dow Award winner, founder of Lead-Lag Media, and publisher of The Lead-Lag Report.

    Health, fitness, finance, entrepreneurship, and the struggle that connects them. New episodes weekly.

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    Julian Brigden on "Trump 2.0" Market Impacts, Cryptocurrency Dynamics, and Avoiding Speculative Bubbles Jan 11, 2025
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    What if a political resurgence could reshape financial landscapes? Join me, Michael Gayed, alongside the seasoned financial strategist Julian Brigden, as we dissect the hypothetical "Trump 2.0" scenario. We tackle its potential ripple effects across growth, equities, fixed income, and the dollar, with a special spotlight on the evolving role of cryptocurrency. Julian, a veteran from Lehman Brothers, HSBC, and the mastermind behind MI2 Partners, brings unique insights into how retail investors, emboldened by the post-COVID market, are challenging the supremacy of institutional giants.
    Together, we unravel the cyclical nature of markets, examining how inexperience often breeds overconfidence and risky ventures. Our conversation draws intriguing parallels between today's market trends and historic bubbles, like the dot-com era, fueled by captivating narratives. Julian and I lay bare the risks associated with speculative fervor and over-leveraging, especially in booming sectors like AI and crypto, while also contemplating the stages of market reaction to potential Trump policies. This discussion serves as a cautionary tale of maintaining vigilance amidst enticing market stories.
    Venture further with us as we scrutinize the broader economic implications of tariffs, tax policies, and monopolistic market structures under the Trump administration. We explore the potential downsides of reshoring manufacturing and the inflationary pressures of tariffs on long-term bond yields. From the challenges in the oil market to the global influence of a strong dollar, our dialogue exposes the intricate dance between government policies, market reactions, and economic growth. This episode promises a thorough exploration of these complex dynamics, offering listeners a nuanced understanding of the current financial terrain.
    The content in this program is for informational purposes only. You should not construe any information or other material as investment, financial, tax, or other advice. The views expressed by the participants are solely their own. A participant may have taken or recommended any investment position discussed, but may close such position or alter its recommendation at any time without notice. Nothing contained in this program constitutes a solicitation, recommendation, endorsement, or offer to buy or sell any securities or other financial instruments in any jurisdiction. Please consult your own investment or financial advisor for advice related to all investment decisions.

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    Phillip Wool on Machine Learning in Investing, US Equities Strategy, and Emerging Market Opportunities Jan 10, 2025
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    Unlock the secrets of strategic investing with Phil Wool from Reliant Global Advisors as he shares how machine learning is revolutionizing portfolio management by focusing on individual company analysis over macroeconomic speculation. Gain insights into the current dynamics of US equities as they navigate through expectations of a soft landing and the Federal Reserve's cautious stance. Explore the complexities of how policy volatility and tariff changes can shape market sentiment and investment opportunities.
    Discover why emerging markets remain sensitive to US Federal Reserve policies and how a mix of policy uncertainty and insufficient Chinese stimulus is impacting global economic outlooks. Phil discusses the potential overstatements in market valuations due to US tariffs and our active management strategies that have consistently outperformed benchmarks, thanks to a multi-factor approach. Learn how active management, particularly within our US funds, is crucial for navigating market volatility and capitalizing on valuation, quality, and governance insights.
    Delve into the promising tech sector opportunities in emerging markets, with a focus on tech-heavy regions like Korea and Taiwan. As we highlight the growth dynamics in China's market and the challenges faced by other emerging regions, Phil explains the role of active stock picking and quantitative scoring in identifying underappreciated growth prospects. From our Japan ETF collaboration to the transformative impact of AI, this episode is packed with strategies for harnessing emerging market potential and optimizing your global equity portfolio.
    DISCLAIMER – PLEASE READ: This is a sponsored episode for which Lead-Lag Publishing, LLC has been paid a fee. Lead-Lag Publishing, LLC does not guarantee the accuracy or completeness of the information provided in the episode or make any representation as to its quality. All statements and expressions provided in this episode are the sole opinion of Columbia Threadneedle and Lead-Lag Publishing, LLC expressly disclaims any responsibility for action taken in connection with the information provided in the discussion. The content in this program is for informational purposes only. You should not construe any information or other material as investment, financial, tax, or other advice. The views expressed by the part

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    Kyle Kazan on Cannabis Industry Evolution, Strategic Real Estate Insights, and Overcoming Federal Challenges Jan 08, 2025
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    From the football field to the boardroom, discover how Kyle Kazan's journey from college athlete to real estate mogul reshaped his vision for the cannabis industry. Listen to Kyle as he reveals how he navigated the worlds of law enforcement, special education, and real estate investing before becoming a pivotal player in cannabis. His insights offer a masterclass in resilience and strategic acumen, shedding light on his success despite the daunting challenges of federal illegality and complex taxation in this emerging market.
    Join us as we explore the evolution of the cannabis industry, where strategic alliances and political shifts define its future. Kyle shares how collaboration with experts like Graham Farrar is essential for mastering the intricacies of cost-effective cannabis cultivation. The conversation touches on the potential impact of political dynamics, especially under the Trump administration, and how states' rights and deregulation could unfold a new era of growth. Through these insights, we uncover a landscape ripe with opportunity, yet in dire need of federal support, particularly in banking.
    Delve into the stories that illuminate the cannabis reform movement, such as that of Weldon Angelos, whose case highlights the urgency for justice system reform. As we discuss the broader implications of political actions by Presidents Biden and Trump regarding cannabis-related convictions, we also explore the promising future of the California cannabis market. From building consumer trust to understanding the parallels with early tech giants, this episode offers a comprehensive look at the dynamic forces shaping the cannabis sector. Plus, get a taste of personal stories that resonate beyond the industry, like the unexpected benefits of fasting inspired by social media.
    The content in this program is for informational purposes only. You should not construe any information or other material as investment, financial, tax, or other advice. The views expressed by the participants are solely their own. A participant may have taken or recommended any investment position discussed, but may close such position or alter its recommendation at any time without notice. Nothing contained in this program constitutes a solicitation, recommendation, endorsement, or offer to buy or sell any securities or other financial instruments in any jurisdiction. Please consult your own investment or financial advisor for advice related to all investment decisions.

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    Meb Faber on Cutting-Edge ETF Innovations, Tax-Efficient Strategies, and Global Investment Outlook Jan 07, 2025
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    Uncover cutting-edge strategies in the world of ETFs with our special guest, Meb Faber from Cambria. We dive into the shifting landscape of fixed income yield spreads and explore how these changes influence the transition from traditional mutual funds to innovative ETF structures. Meb opens up about Cambria's bold approach with their open enrollment strategy, offering an insider's view of their impressive suite of 16 ETFs, and shares candid insights into the strategic decision to close their inaugural fund named FAIL. Witness how market dynamics and investor demand play crucial roles in fund viability and decision-making processes.
    Prepare to expand your understanding of tax-efficient investment strategies as we unravel the complexities of the 351 exchange. This intriguing strategy offers significant tax deferral benefits, especially for those with highly appreciated positions or engaged in direct indexing. Essential for diversifying portfolios, the 351 exchange allows investors to sidestep frozen positions while adhering to specific diversification criteria. Join us as we discuss the increasing popularity of this strategy, the educational push to inform investors, and the anticipated excitement surrounding the first fund launch with an expected participation range of $30 to $50 million.
    Explore global endowment-style investing with Fund Two, designed to shift focus from US-centric portfolios to a diversified global strategy. We highlight the benefits of lower volatility and potential collaborations with Registered Investment Advisors (RIAs) for tailored approaches. Gain insights into upcoming fund launches and market trends as we consider the implications of high CAPE ratios, unusual fixed income yield spreads, and the promising opportunities within emerging markets. Learn why global equities might hold the key to a balanced and lucrative investment future as we navigate these shifting market currents.
    DISCLAIMER – PLEASE READ: This is a sponsored episode for which Lead-Lag Publishing, LLC has been paid a fee. Lead-Lag Publishing, LLC does not guarantee the accuracy or completeness of the information provided in the episode or make any representation as to its quality. All statements and expressions provided in this episode are the sole opinion of Columbia Threadneedle and Lead-Lag Publishing, LLC expressly disclaims any responsibility for action taken in connection with the information provided in the discussion. The content in this program is for informational purposes only. You should not construe any information or other material as investment, financial, tax, or other advice. The views expressed by the participants are solely their own. A participant may have taken or recommended any investment position discussed, but may close such position or alter its recommendation at any time without notice. Nothing contained in this program constitutes a solicitation, recommendation, endorsement, or offer to buy or sell any securities or other financial instruments in any jurisdiction. Please consult your own investment or financial advisor for advice related to all investment decisions.

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    Aleks Svetski on Bitcoin's Transformative Potential, Quantum Computing Challenges, and Philosophical Insights from "Bushido of Bitcoin Jan 06, 2025
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    Can Bitcoin reshape the societal structures we know today? Join us as I, Michael Gayed, publisher of The Lead Lag Report, engage in a compelling dialogue with Aleks Svetski, a seasoned Bitcoin enthusiast and entrepreneur, who shares his transformative journey from skepticism to profound understanding of Bitcoin's intricate relationship with global economic systems. Together, we unravel the constant waves of criticism Bitcoin faces, from claims of being a Ponzi scheme to the challenges posed by emerging technologies such as quantum computing. Aleks offers a unique perspective stemming from his entrepreneurial background, shedding light on the complex interplay of volatility, risk, and earning, which has enriched his relationship with Bitcoin.
    We navigate the contentious discussions around quantum computing's potential impact on Bitcoin and cryptography. Aleks and I delve into the skepticism surrounding quantum computers' ability to outperform traditional technology while exploring the potential benefits they could bring to Bitcoin, such as enhanced security and increased hash rates. We also ponder whether Bitcoin can truly transform societal structures by addressing broader issues of inequality and fairness. Our discussion challenges the notion that simply fixing monetary systems can solve deep-seated human behaviors, advocating instead for a focus on fairness over forced equality.
    Finally, explore with us the profound themes in Aleks' latest work, "Bushido of Bitcoin," which weaves together philosophy, ethics, and visionary storytelling to provide a sophisticated narrative on Bitcoin's potential. This book is more than just a critique; it's an invitation to foster critical thinking rather than blind optimism about Bitcoin's role in governance, culture, and wealth. Aleks recounts his personal transformation throughout 2022 and 2023, finding renewed energy in nuanced discussions, leading him to share his insights in the book. With parts available for free at BushidoBitcoin.com, listeners are encouraged to engage with Aleks' work and join the conversation on Bitcoin’s evolving landscape.

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    Lakshman Achuthan on Economic Cycle Insights, Yield Curve Un-inversion, and Global Manufacturing Challenges Jan 05, 2025
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    Join us for an insightful conversation with Lakshman Achuthan from the Economic Cycle Research Institute (ECRI), where we promise you'll gain a deeper understanding of the complex world of economic cycles. Lakshman, a veteran in business cycle analysis, shares his expertise on the intricate dance between growth, inflation, and employment, and how these cycles, though interconnected, often march to the beat of their own drums. Our discussion highlights why economies are inherently cyclical, buffeted by internal dynamics and external shocks, and how recessions often arise when these weaknesses coincide with unforeseen events. The episode also delves into the current economic climate, dissecting phenomena such as the recent un-inversion of the yield curve, providing insights into where we are in the economic cycle and what this might mean for the future.
    This episode also takes a closer look at the economic landscape shaped by policies from the Trump administration, examining the structural impacts on employment and broader economic trends. We reflect on how historical patterns and unexpected downturns, like the 2018 inflation gauge surprise, pose challenges for economic forecasting. The global manufacturing sector's struggles amid a prolonged slowdown is another focal point, with discussions on potential recovery sparks and the implications on inflation and economic growth. Lakshman emphasizes the importance of staying open to evolving data and trends, highlighting the disparities between the resilient U.S. service sector and the cyclical nature of manufacturing. Tune in to explore the significance of forward-looking indicators and how they can provide a roadmap for anticipating changes in the economic landscape.
    The content in this program is for informational purposes only. You should not construe any information or other material as investment, financial, tax, or other advice. The views expressed by the participants are solely their own. A participant may have taken or recommended any investment position discussed, but may close such position or alter its recommendation at any time without notice. Nothing contained in this program constitutes a solicitation, recommendation, endorsement, or offer to buy or sell any securities or other financial instruments in any jurisdiction. Please consult your own investment or financial advisor for advice related to all investment decisions.

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    Max Osbon on Tech Investment Resilience, Market Volatility Strategies, and the Speculative World of SPACs and Micro-Cap Innovations Jan 04, 2025
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    Join us as Max Osbon of Osbon Capital Management reveals how tech investments can thrive amid market volatility and unpredictable times. Discover how to anticipate market pullbacks while unlocking the potential of semiconductor giants like Nvidia, which are essential for navigating hype cycles. Max provides expert insights on managing risk assets and grasping stock-specific momentum, crucial for making informed investment decisions in today's shifting market landscape.
    Our conversation also tackles the surprising dynamics of government-supported markets, including the Federal Reserve's unexpected $2 trillion balance sheet contraction. Despite a reduced M2 money supply, market liquidity remains buoyant, hinting at unseen elements bolstering optimism. We examine the evolving challenges faced by VC-backed companies and the emergence of opportunities at market lows, as illustrated by Meta's notable rebound. Understanding your assets and anticipating market fluctuations are key themes, showcasing how investors can find value even amidst uncertainty.
    Explore the speculative realm of SPACs and micro-cap tech companies, where innovation meets risk and potential gains abound. Max and I scrutinize companies like Butterfly Network and Aurora, emphasizing the need for thorough analysis and comprehension of the technologies involved. This episode sheds light on risk management across various asset types and highlights the flexibility of independent investment firms like Max's. With gratitude for our listeners, we eagerly anticipate bringing you more valuable insights in future episodes.
    The content in this program is for informational purposes only. You should not construe any information or other material as investment, financial, tax, or other advice. The views expressed by the participants are solely their own. A participant may have taken or recommended any investment position discussed, but may close such position or alter its recommendation at any time without notice. Nothing contained in this program constitutes a solicitation, recommendation, endorsement, or offer to buy or sell any securities or other financial instruments in any jurisdiction. Please consult your own investment or financial advisor for advice related to all investment decisions.

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    Amy Nixon on Post-Pandemic Housing Dynamics, Mortgage Lock-in Paradoxes, and Strategic Investment Insights Jan 03, 2025
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    Discover the unexpected consequences of a post-pandemic housing market with renowned housing analyst Amy Nixon. As mortgage rates rise, the phenomenon of mortgage lock-in is holding homeowners back from selling, creating an intriguing paradox of constrained supply amidst cooled demand. We unravel the unconventional tactics like builders buying down mortgage rates and the rise of cash transactions, while navigating the unique challenges confronting first-time buyers. With a spotlight on regional trends in Florida and Texas, we question whether the current housing prices are sustainable across different market tiers.
    Next, we dissect the interplay between federal interest rates, housing prices, and immigration. With an insightful examination of Federal Reserve Chairman Jerome Powell's stance on economic independence, we explore how immigration impacts both the construction labor force and housing demand. The intricate balance of these factors is evident in booming markets like Florida and Texas, where the decision to upgrade homes despite higher rates is a critical choice for many. Amy and I delve into the potential effects of changing immigration policies under the Trump administration and the resulting pressures on construction labor and rental demand.
    Lastly, we gaze into the future of the housing market and investment strategies for 2024. The so-called "silver tsunami" of retirees selling their homes, particularly in Florida, creates a ripple effect on local markets, influencing real estate landscapes across the nation. As we weigh the merits of renting versus owning, I share my personal investment philosophy, emphasizing assets like gold, Bitcoin, and equities that promise better wealth-building opportunities than real estate. Join us as we tackle these complex issues, offering insights that could redefine your approach to housing and investment in the coming year.
    The content in this program is for informational purposes only. You should not construe any information or other material as investment, financial, tax, or other advice. The views expressed by the participants are solely their own. A participant may have taken or recommended any investment position discussed, but may close such position or alter its recommendation at any time without notice. Nothing contained in this program constitutes a solicitation, recommendation, endorsement, or offer to buy or sell any securities or other financial instruments in any jurisdiction. Please consult your own investment or financial advisor for advice related to all investment decisions.

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    Charles Rotblutt on Emotional Investment Influences, Small-Cap Growth Prospects, and Diversified Portfolio Strategies Jan 02, 2025
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    What if your emotions are driving your investment choices more than actual market changes? In our latest episode, we sit down with Charles Rotblutt, Vice President of the American Association of Individual Investors, to uncover the complex dynamics of market sentiment and its surprising influence on investment decisions. With a focus on the rapid information flow in today's markets, we examine the emotional rollercoaster investors often experience, even when their portfolios remain steady. Charles offers his unique insights into how maintaining a long-term investment strategy can help navigate these emotional waves and reveals why undervalued sectors, such as small-cap stocks and international markets, could be poised for a comeback.
    We tackle pressing concerns dominating investors' minds, from inflation and national debt to interest rates and current market valuations. The conversation spans the shifting behaviors in investing—from traditional strategies to the gamification and speculative trends seen today. Despite these changes, there's hope in diversification, allowing investors to discover hidden gems within market volatility. By discussing valuation disparities between small-cap and large-cap stocks, as well as between international and U.S. markets, we emphasize the critical importance of balanced portfolios. Whether you're a seasoned trader or just starting, this episode is packed with valuable insights and strategies to help you navigate the complex financial landscape.
    The content in this program is for informational purposes only. You should not construe any information or other material as investment, financial, tax, or other advice. The views expressed by the participants are solely their own. A participant may have taken or recommended any investment position discussed, but may close such position or alter its recommendation at any time without notice. Nothing contained in this program constitutes a solicitation, recommendation, endorsement, or offer to buy or sell any securities or other financial instruments in any jurisdiction. Please consult your own investment or financial advisor for advice related to all investment decisions.

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