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    The Money Sessions

    Deep, thoughtful, raw conversations with real therapists who are in the midst of leaning into raising fees and making bank – all while working with the clients they are passionate about serving.

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    Latest Episodes:
    3 Signs You're Gaslighting Yourself Into Accepting a Practice That Doesn't Work. Mar 10, 2025
    Show notes

    Ready to set your fee? You choose the dream, we'll do the math. Download our FREE Fun with Fees Calculator here 👉🏽 https://www.leaninmakebank.com/free

    In today's eye-opening episode, Tiffany calls out the all-too-common habit of therapists convincing themselves that everything is "fine."

    Even—and especially—when it's not.

    And you KNOW it.

    (Cue the meme of that dog sitting in a room full of fire.)

    But what can you do about it?!

    If you're ready to stop justifying exhaustion and start making real, lasting change, this is the episode for you.

    In this episode, Tiffany shares:

    How her own habit of saying "I'm fine" masked deeper struggles;

    The power of radical honesty in recognizing what's not actually working in your private practice;

    The hidden costs of undercharging and overworking;

    Why so many therapists end up in unsustainable practices and how to break free from survival mode;

    The crucial first step to building a practice that actually serves YOU.

    Resources Mentioned:

    Fun with Fees Calculator

    DM Tiffany on Instagram

    Send Tiffany an Email


    From Financial Insecurity to $525 Sessions: How Brianna Emancipated Herself. Mar 03, 2025
    Show notes

    Ready to set your fee? You choose the dream, we'll do the math. Download our FREE Fun with Fees Calculator here 👉🏽 https://www.leaninmakebank.com/free

    In this episode, we're speaking with Dr. Brianna Mann, PhD, a LIMB Academy grad based in Minnesota who specializes in working with high achievers.

    Brianna gets real in today's interview, talking about what it REALLY took for her to emancipate herself from a system that was not designed for her.

    She also gets vulnerable, sharing what allowed her to keep moving forward—to keep moving towards her dream—even when she was leaving an abusive relationship, three months behind on her mortgage payments, half a million dollars in debt, and relying on welfare just to get by.

    This story will inspire you—and challenge you—to think differently about yourself and the world around you.

    In this episode, Brianna shares:

    How a 20% decrease in reimbursement rates from her insurance panels pushed Brianna to go private pay;

    What happened after Brianna joined the LIMB Academy and really started addressing her mindset work;

    How she moved from financial insecurity and reliance on insurance panels to $525 private pay sessions;

    Her top three pieces of strategic advice for a therapist who's feeling stuck in their private practice;

    The specific marketing strategies Brianna used to attract clients who were willing to pay her premium fees;

    The difference between networking at therapist conferences and networking with professionals who hold themselves to a higher standard (this one is EXCITING).

    Resources mentioned:

    LIMB Academy

    FWF Calculator

    Brianna's Website

    Brianna's Dream Course

    Brianna's Digital Inner Child Meditation

    Brianna's Pinterest

    More about Brianna:

    Dr. Brianna Mann, Ph.D works with high achievers who have obtained the American Dream and feel like they've been sold a bill of goods because they don't feel any happier or like their lives any more. In fact, they actually feel depressed, anxious, neurotic or numb; they've found out the hard way that happiness and freedom are inside jobs. Dr. Mann works with them to find and heal the root of these problems, so they can stop the fake-it-until-you-make-it routine and experience freedom and joy as more than just pipe dreams.


    The Startling Truth Every Therapist Needs to Hear (Before It's Too Late). Feb 24, 2025
    Show notes

    Ready to set your fee? You choose the dream, we'll do the math. Download our FREE Fun with Fees Calculator here 👉🏽 https://www.leaninmakebank.com/free

    In this powerful episode, Tiffany delivers a wake-up call to therapists in private practice: nobody is coming to save you.

    If you're exhausted, underpaid, and waiting for some magic to transform your practice, here's the truth: it's time to take control and become your OWN knight in shining armor.

    If you're ready to stop waiting and start taking action, this episode is for you.

    In this episode, Tiffany shares:

    The moment she realized no one was coming to save her (and what she did about it);

    How burnout and resentment build up when therapists undercharge and overwork;

    Why acknowledging your current reality is the first step toward change;

    The myth of quick-fix solutions like extra certifications and marketing programs;

    How you can start taking action (to save yourself) NOW.

    Resources Mentioned:

    Fun with Fees Calculator


    How Marcuetta Went from Insurance Panels to $350 Per Session PLUS What She Learned from Opening and Closing a Therapy Group Practice. Feb 17, 2025
    Show notes

    Ready to set your fee? You choose the dream, we'll do the math. Download our FREE Fun with Fees Calculator here 👉🏽 https://www.leaninmakebank.com/free

    In this episode, we're speaking with Dr. Marcuetta Sims, a licensed psychologist and premium fee therapist who practices in Georgia.

    Tune in to hear Marcuetta share how she went from being stressed out and overwhelmed on insurance panels to charging $350/session and running her own group practice after graduating LIMB.

    PLUS Marcuetta spills the tea on what it's really like to run a group practice behind-the-scenes and how motherhood has shaped her decisions around this new season of her professional life.

    You're not gonna want to miss this.

    In this episode, Marcuetta shares:

    What led Marcuetta to leave insurance panels and go cash pay, premium fee at her private practice (her answers may surprise you);

    How the LIMB community helped her reshape how she understood her Christian faith and overcome false narratives around money;

    How she, as a black woman, faced internalized narratives around black folks, including what she could charge and who would pay her full fee;

    Three pieces of strategy she used to go from insurance panels to $350/session;

    Why she opened and then closed her group practice;

    Why she's taken up speaking and consultation and taken a pause on seeing clients at this phase in her professional life and business.

    Resources mentioned:

    LIMB Academy

    FWF Calculator

    Marcuetta's Website

    Marcuetta's Instagram

    More about Marcuetta:

    Dr. Marcuetta Sims is a licensed psychologist, yoga and meditation teacher, the CEO/Founder of the Worth, Wisdom, and Wellness Center, and site/clinical director for Cumberland Counseling Centers. She loves working with perfectionists who still feel worthless. Her current joys are being a new mommy and loving on her husband and fur baby.

    Learn more at drmarcuettasims.com.


    2025 Predictions for Your Private Practice with Heard CEO, Andrew Riesen Feb 10, 2025
    Show notes

    In this episode, we're speaking with Andrew Riesen, a mission-driven entrepreneur, financial accountant, and CEO of Heard.

    If you haven't heard of Heard (see what we did there?), it's an accounting platform built for therapreneurs, aiming to empower therapists as business owners by saving them time on their finances.

    In today's special edition of The Money Sessions, Andrew doesn't hold back — he gets real about his journey as a business owner, gives his perspective on therapists and financial literacy, and shares his thoughts on how to set ourselves up for a successful 2025.

    If you have questions about the nitty gritty of money and finance as a therapreneur, this is THE place to start.

    In this episode, Andrew shares:

    The challenges he's seen therapists face in 2024, especially when it comes to making money;

    His predictions for 2025 and what you can do to set yourself up for success as a therapist in private practice;

    The challenges he's faced and the lessons he's learned as a business owner;

    The real importance of financial literacy for therapists (we promise it's NOT boring).

    Resources mentioned:

    Heard Business School Podcast

    Heard Website

    LIMB Academy

    FWF Calculator

    More about Andrew:

    Andrew Riesen is a mission-driven entrepreneur, financial accountant, and CEO of Heard, the financial back-office for therapists in private practice. Prior to Heard, Andrew worked at PWC, where he worked as a financial accountant, helped build an internal software incubator, and co-founded an affordable sales tax solution for small to medium-sized businesses. When not supporting mental health professionals in private practice, Andrew can be found exploring the nooks and crannies of the Pacific Northwest trail-running, cycling, or snowboarding, or at home with his nose in a book or journal.


    From $70 to $450/session: After the Premium Fee Journey with Susannah. Feb 03, 2025
    Show notes

    Ready to set your fee? You choose the dream, we'll do the math. Download our FREE Fun with Fees Calculator here 👉🏽 https://www.leaninmakebank.com/free

    In this episode, we're speaking with Susannah Horwitz, a Licensed Professional Counselor and LIMB Grad based in Golden, Colorado.

    Susannah is a proud mom, wife, and entrepreneur. During her first episode on The Money Sessions in 2021, she shared her journey with raising her fees and becoming the primary breadwinner.

    Now, Susannah is coming back to reveal what it's really been like in the years since she first embarked on her premium fee journey.

    You don't want to miss this.

    In this episode, Susannah shares:

    What it really means to do premium fee work (Hint: it's not about the number);

    How getting in touch with what she really needed from her private practice and setting premium fees forced her to set boundaries in many other areas of her life;

    The ups and downs that come after the premium fee raise;

    How therapists use low fees and overworking as a way to avoid looking at their lack of boundaries in other areas of their lives;

    The three types of currency to consider when designing a private practice that works for you.

    Resources mentioned:

    LIMB Academy

    FWF Calculator

    Susannah's First Episode

    Susannah's Website → She does 1:1 consulting with therapists!

    More about Susannah:

    Susannah Horwitz, LPC, LMHC, is a trauma-informed, nature-based expressive arts therapist and licensed professional counselor, serving clients located in Colorado, Massachusetts and Florida. She received her Masters degree in Intermodal Expressive Arts Therapies from Lesley University in 2003. She was an expressive arts therapist and director of the Project Launch college and career access program at RAW Art Works from 2004-2013. She has been a private practice owner since 2010. Susannah is a Certified EMDR therapist and also trained with both Skylight Psychedelics and Integrative Psychiatry Institute to become a Certified Ketamine-Assisted Therapy provider and Certified Psychedelic-Assisted Therapist.

    In her private practice, she loves to bring therapy clients "off the couch" and into the outdoors for Nature & Arts based EMDR intensives to help clients connect with the multifaceted powers of imagination, sense of humor, playfulness, and creativity to heal trauma and thrive. She specializes in working with caregivers such as medical professionals, wellness professionals, and parents who have experienced medical or relationship trauma, as well as those who identify as neurodivergent. In addition to her practice as a therapist, she is the founder of the Well-Connected Therapist coaching program, which she created to support introverted and neurodivergent private practice therapists to build community through embodied, authentic connection.


    Take an hour for YOU this week. Jan 27, 2025
    Show notes

    LAST CHANCE to join before registration closes!

    In this week of live online trainings, you'll get crystal clear about how to talk fees ethically and fairly - in a way that honors you and your clients - as we head into 2025. Click here to enroll in How to Charge like a Six Figure Therapist LIVE.

    Monday, January 27 - 12-1 pm PST / 3-4 pm EST

    Tuesday, January 28 - 12-1 pm PST / 3-4 pm EST

    Wednesday, January 29 - 12-1 pm PST / 3-4 pm EST

    Thursday, January 30 - 12-1:30 pm PST / 3-4:30 pm EST

    Friday, January 31 - 12-1 pm PST / 3-4 pm EST


    How Charging Premium Fees Has Allowed This Therapist Mom of Two to Make a Massive Social and Political Impact. Jan 20, 2025
    Show notes

    Ready to set your fee? You choose the dream, we'll do the math. Download our FREE Fun with Fees Calculator here 👉🏽 https://www.leaninmakebank.com/free

    In this episode, we're speaking with Rachel Hulstein-Lowe, MSW, a Licensed and Independent Clinical Social Worker and LIMB Grad based in Boston, Massachusetts.

    Rachel is a gender diversity expert who specializes in working with trans and nonbinary youth and their families. Rachel is also committed to making an impact beyond her client relationships via her activist efforts.

    But Rachel didn't always have the time and energy to fully invest in social and political activism.

    In today's episode, Rachel will share why she decided to take a leap and start her own practice after 13 years in a group practice.

    She'll also get real about the difficulty of charging premium fees, and the reality check that forced her to confront the professional trajectory she had chosen for herself.

    Keep listening to find out what made Rachel finally say "no more."

    In this episode, Rachel shares:

    How she moved from working in a group practice to ultimately charging $250/session;

    How comparing her professional trajectory to her peers in other industries forced her to get real about the choices she was making in her professional life;

    How charging premium fees allowed her to actually go out and make a bigger impact in the lives of gender diverse kids and their families;

    Two specific strategies you can use to get off insurance panels and charge premium fees.

    Resources mentioned:

    LIMB Academy

    FWF Calculator

    Rachel's Website

    More about Rachel:

    Rachel Hulstein-Lowe, MSW, LICSW, is a therapist and parent coach whose niche is gender-expansive youth and their parents. She is deeply committed to changing hearts and minds about trans youth. To this end, she is interviewing cis parents of gender-expansive youth from all over the country to share their stories on her blog and in a forthcoming book.


    It's time to take a risk. Jan 15, 2025
    Show notes

    In this week of live online trainings, you'll get crystal clear about how to talk fees ethically and fairly - in a way that honors you and your clients - as we head into 2025.

    Click here to enroll in How to Charge like a Six Figure Therapist LIVE.

    Monday, January 27 - 12-1 pm PST / 3-4 pm EST

    Tuesday, January 28 - 12-1 pm PST / 3-4 pm EST

    Wednesday, January 29 - 12-1 pm PST / 3-4 pm EST

    Thursday, January 30 - 12-1:30 pm PST / 3-4:30 pm EST

    Friday, January 31 - 12-1 pm PST / 3-4 pm EST


    Every Therapist's Worst Nightmare: A Disciplinary Complaint Because Your Fees Are Too High. Jan 13, 2025
    Show notes

    Ready to set your fee? You choose the dream, we'll do the math. Download our FREE Fun with Fees Calculator here 👉🏽 https://www.leaninmakebank.com/free

    In the sequel to last week's episode, we're once again speaking with Jesse Kauffman, a Licensed Master Social Worker and LIMB Grad based in Ann Arbor, Michigan.

    If you haven't already listened to part one of his story, make sure you check it out here. (We'll be waiting right here while you catch up.)

    This week, Jesse walks us through his experience with what many of us would consider to be our worst nightmare.

    He took the leap, raised his fee, charged more than anyone in his area… and then had a client lodge a complaint against him with his board.

    And not only did they lodge the complaint, but an investigation was actually opened.

    In this episode, Jesse will describe what that experience was like and what he learned along the way.

    In this episode, Jesse shares:

    His harrowing story of stepping into his full fee even when it meant having a licensing complaint lodged against him;

    How he sought support to make it through this difficult situation;

    How liability insurance came into play and how much it cost him to secure a lawyer to assist him;

    Why it's vital to keep your notes up to date in order to have a premium fee practice (keep listening to hear how this comes into play);

    Exactly what you need to say if someone ever lodges a complaint against you or says your fee is too high (Jesse has a perfect answer).

    Resources mentioned:

    LIMB Academy

    FWF Calculator

    Jesse's Website

    Jesse's Previous Episode

    More about Jesse:

    Jesse Kauffman, LMSW, is a psychotherapist and breathwork facilitator whose specialty is supporting professionals with ADHD. Lately he's been helping ADHD dads in the tech industry grow in their career while also maintaining a meaningful presence with their families at home - and it's inspiring work! He is licensed to work with clients in California, Colorado, Michigan, and Wisconsin and practices out of Ann Arbor, Michigan.


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