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    The Marketing Architects

    Introducing a research-first podcast that builds revenue, not condos.

    Answer questions on the biggest marketing trends and news with discussions based in marketing, psychology and economics research. Along the way, learn about marketing accountability, category leadership, brand-building and much more.

    Featuring a team of experienced marketers whose blueprints for success are marketing strategies actually proven to work.

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    Latest Episodes:
    What’s Up with Attention? Jan 02, 2024
    Show notes

    Two trends are colliding. First, advertisers are tracking their investments more carefully. Second, traditional marketing metrics are under attack as privacy regulations evolve. One possible solution? Attention.
    This week, Elena, Angela, and Rob discuss the rise and relevance of attention metrics in advertising. From how attention goes beyond visibility to the many ways attention is measured, our hosts are exploring the benefits, challenges, and practical applications of attention metrics. They even share their own experience using eye-tracking for TV commercials and how attention impacts performance.
    Topics covered:

    • [01:00] New attention metrics go beyond viewability and impressions
    • [03:30] The problem with attention metrics
    • [07:00] Byron Sharp’s perspective on attention
    • [08:30] How 3M developed eye-tracking technology
    • [13:00] How attention metrics inform TV performance
    • [15:00] How viewing context and lack of standards make attention challenging for marketers

    To learn more, visit marketingarchitects.com/podcast.
    Resources:
    2023 MarketingBrew Article: https://www.marketingbrew.com/stories/why-advertisers-are-excited-about-attention-metrics
    2023 MediaPost Article: https://www.mediapost.com/publications/article/391258/hey-there-attention-metrics-stifled-by-lack-of-re.html
    2022 The Media Leader Article: https://the-media-leader.com/sharp-is-right-chasing-fleeting-attention-is-a-waste-of-money/
    Get more research-backed marketing strategies by subscribing to The Marketing Architects on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen to podcasts.

    From the Archive: How to Measure Upper Funnel Marketing Channels Dec 26, 2023
    Show notes

    This week we’re taking time off to spend the holidays with our families so we’re republishing one of our top episodes from the archives. We hope you enjoy, and we’ll be back with new content next week.
    There are more than 130 marketing metrics. But how many really determine marketing effectiveness? Especially for brand-building channels like TV, radio, and print advertising? In this episode, VP of Analytics Matt Hultgren joins Angela and Elena to discuss how measurement best practices have changed and the importance of using multiple models to understand marketing’s full impact.
    Topics covered:

    • [01:07] Why marketing measurement is so difficult
    • [4:58] Why last touch attribution doesn’t tell the full story
    • [11:10] How to set up a measurable TV test
    • [16:21] Top-down vs bottom-up marketing measurement
    • [20:27] CTV’s ongoing measurement challenges
    • [24:35] The micro/macro/business measurement framework

    To learn more, visit marketingarchitects.com/podcast.
    Resources:
    2023 The Chartered Institute of Marketing Article: https://www.cim.co.uk/content-hub/editorial/todays-top-five-marketing-challenges/
    2021 Ruler Analytics Report: https://www.ruleranalytics.com/resources/attribution-reporting-analysis/
    2021 Marketing Architects Article: https://www.marketingarchitects.com/blog/5-tips-for-measuring-tv-performance
    Get more research-backed marketing strategies by subscribing to The Marketing Architects on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen to podcasts.

    Year in Review with Sleeping Barber and That’s What I Call Marketing Dec 19, 2023
    Show notes

    It’s a podcast takeover! In a special bonus episode, we’re sharing Elena’s conversation with Marc Binkley and Vassilis Douros of “The Sleeping Barber” and Conor Byrne of “That’s What I Call Marketing.” Together, they review their favorite marketing trends and campaigns of the year, plus what they’re looking forward to for marketers in 2024. The conversation explores Apple’s distinctive brand assets, how Spotify and Strava make the most of customer data, the potential impact of AI, what brand purpose looks like next year, and much, much more.
    Topics covered:

    • [00:30] Introducing the podcasters for today’s episode
    • [02:00] Top marketing campaigns from the last year
    • [15:00] The resurgence of media mix modeling
    • [18:30] How marketers should be testing AI in 2024
    • [22:30] The growth of creativity in B2B marketing
    • [27:00] Why brand purpose is on the decline
    • [31:30] The death of hyper-personalization
    • [38:00] Influencer marketing’s top challenges
    • [43:00] Favorite marketing thought leaders

    To learn more, visit marketingarchitects.com/podcast.
    Resources:
    The Sleeping Barber: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-sleeping-barber-a-business-and-marketing-podcast/id1609811324
    That’s What I Call Marketing: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/thats-what-i-call-marketing/id1615415427?mt=2
    Get more research-backed marketing strategies by subscribing to The Marketing Architects on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen to podcasts.

    Cheers to 2024 Marketing Trends Dec 19, 2023
    Show notes

    Forrester predicts “experience with generative AI” will be written into 20% of new CMO job descriptions next year. They also say brand purpose is out of style and highly practical, results-driven campaigns will soon be in vogue.
    In this wrap-up episode for the year, Elena, Angela, and Rob are sharing their own predictions for the biggest marketing trends in 2024. From a focus on effectiveness to the growth of traditional marketing channels to AI completely reimagining the ad industry, there’s a lot headed marketers’ way next year. The good news? Constant change is pretty normal in the industry. So if anyone’s prepared for 2024, it’s marketers.
    Topics covered:

    • [01:30] Forrester’s 2024 marketing predictions
    • [05:30] Why brand purpose is less popular
    • [07:00] Marketing effectiveness in the US
    • [16:00] What the move from AI to AGI means
    • [20:00] Why marketers may reevaluate traditional channels
    • [21:30] Predictions for 2024

    To learn more, visit marketingarchitects.com/podcast.
    Resources:
    2023 Forrester Report: https://www.forrester.com/blogs/predictions-2024-cmos-b2c-marketing/
    Get more research-backed marketing strategies by subscribing to The Marketing Architects on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen to podcasts.

    Mastering QR Codes for Shoppable TV Dec 12, 2023
    Show notes

    QR codes achieved mainstream status in 2020. But they're more than just a pandemic fad. In 2022, 83 million US smartphone users scanned the codes. And 3 in 4 consumers say they plan to scan the codes in the future.
    This week, Elena, Angela, and Rob are joined by Associate Director of Product Optimization Tilly DeNardo to talk about the future of QR codes in TV advertising. The team dives into Marketing Architects’ research on how consumers perceive the codes in advertising and how to create ads that make the most of their potential, from matching post-scan expectations to creative best practices.
    Topics covered:

    • [01:30] The growth of shoppable TV ads
    • [08:00] The history of QR codes
    • [11:00] Why TV advertisers are excited about QR
    • [14:30] How QR codes compare to other calls-to-action
    • [17:30] How much do consumers trust QR codes?
    • [21:30] Creative best practices for using QR codes

    To learn more, visit marketingarchitects.com/podcast.
    Resources:
    2023 Adweek Article: https://www.adweek.com/convergent-tv/shoppable-ads-smart-tv-samsung-ads-kerv/
    Get more research-backed marketing strategies by subscribing to The Marketing Architects on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen to podcasts.

    AI and the Future of Ad Agencies Dec 05, 2023
    Show notes

    82% of ANA members say their company has an in-house agency. And now generative AI threatens specialized digital agencies. What does the future of ad agencies look like? Do they have a future at all?
    This week, Elena, Angela, and Rob are joined by SVP Client Growth Dhiren Khemlani to discuss the pros and cons of in-housing, the impact of AI on agencies, and the importance of remaining agile and adaptable. Finally, they predict what agencies will look like in the next decade. Or if agencies will be around at all.
    Topics covered:

    • [01:00] Breaking down the rise of in-house agencies
    • [03:00] The impact of AI on the ad industry
    • [07:00] In-housing vs external agencies
    • [18:00] How agencies will need to evolve to survive
    • [20:00] The power of human creativity in the age of AI
    • [26:00] The future of the agency model

    To learn more, visit marketingarchitects.com/podcast.
    Resources:
    2023 Adweek Article: https://www.adweek.com/agencies/ana-study-in-house-agencies/
    2023 AdAge Article: https://adage.com/article/agency-news/forrester-report-ai-will-boost-creative-agencies-shutter-digital-shops/2525811
    Get more research-backed marketing strategies by subscribing to The Marketing Architects on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen to podcasts.

    Marketing to the CFO Nov 28, 2023
    Show notes

    Only 22% of CMOs feel they have a collaborative relationship with their CFO. And only 39% of financial directors have confidence their marketing team will make smart commercial decisions. The numbers, well, aren’t great.
    To uncover the reason for this disconnect, Elena, Angela, and Rob are joined by CFO Brent Longval. Together, they explore why marketing and finance can end up at opposite ends of the table and how learning to speak the same language can close the gap. There’s work to do on both sides, but it’s worth it... 87% of marketers who do have a collaborative relationship with finance are happy with their ability to measure marketing performance.
    Topics covered:

    • [01:30] The state of the CMO/CFO relationship
    • [05:00] Why finance often sees marketing as another expense
    • [10:30] Does your CFO have a finance or accounting background?
    • [12:00] Why finance and marketing can easily clash
    • [16:30] Building a collaborative partnership with finance
    • [21:00] Learning finance’s language
    • [24:30] Investing in relationship-building and trust

    To learn more, visit marketingarchitects.com/podcast.
    Resources:
    2023 MarketingWeek Article: https://www.marketingweek.com/cmo-council-cfo-relationship/
    Get more research-backed marketing strategies by subscribing to The Marketing Architects on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen to podcasts.

    Planning a Merry Holiday Shopping Season Nov 21, 2023
    Show notes

    This summer, consumers dug into their wallets to attend concerts, watch movies in theaters, and enjoy sporting events in person. But as economic concerns grow, can the summer’s spending keep up for retailers’ crucial holiday sales season?
    This week, Elena, Angela, and Rob are joined by Strategy Director Kyle Lewis to discuss the trends retailers can expect during the holiday shopping season and how they can cultivate positive experiences to support sales going into 2024. Starting with the fact that the real holiday shopping season began months ago.
    Topics covered:

    • [01:30] Economic predictions for the holidays
    • [03:30] Recapping last year’s holiday shopping trends
    • [06:00] Consumer intent is high for spending this year
    • [09:30] The shopping season started earlier than ever
    • [19:00] The importance of simplifying customer experiences
    • [21:30] How Marketing Architects sold a child’s toy during the holidays

    To learn more, visit marketingarchitects.com/podcast.
    Resources:
    2023 CNN Business Article: https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/21/economy/consumer-spending-winter-outlook/index.html
    Get more research-backed marketing strategies by subscribing to The Marketing Architects on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen to podcasts.

    How to Create Sticky Digital Advertising Nov 14, 2023
    Show notes

    Do digital ads have your attention, really? What about your audience’s attention? Marketers have shifted from traditional channels to digital ones—but the long-term returns of TV, radio, and print have been difficult to replicate.
    According to Data2Decisions and DDB, digital attribution techniques overestimate the business effects of search by a factor of two and underestimate the impact of TV by a factor of 10. In this week’s episode, Rob, Angela, and Elena discuss digital advertising’s effectiveness, profitability, and greatest pitfalls. Conversations range from the dominance of Google, Meta, and Amazon to tactical advice for creating digital ads that capture and retain viewer attention.
    Topics covered:

    • [01:00] Reviewing WARC’s “The Third Age of Effectiveness”
    • [04:30] How much do marketers spend on digital advertising?
    • [07:30] How effective is display advertising?
    • [10:00] Digital advertising’s greatest challenges
    • [13:00] Creative best practices for memorable digital ads
    • [16:00] How traditional channels like TV boost digital effectiveness

    To learn more, visit marketingarchitects.com/podcast
    Get more research-backed marketing strategies by subscribing to The Marketing Architects on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen to podcasts.

    Avoiding the Google Tax with SEM Nov 07, 2023
    Show notes

    In 2023, Google will rake in $57 billion from search. Their dominance in the market has left marketers heavily dependent on Google’s platform even as prices rise, making it both necessary for success online... and a massive headache.
    This week, Elena and Rob are joined by Director of Analytics Jordan Rossler to discuss how marketers can improve the effectiveness of their SEM investment—while reducing their dependence on Google. Because no brand that wants to compete online can fully avoid Google. But they can level the playing field.
    Topics covered:

    • [01:20] Recapping Google’s antitrust trial
    • [03:00] Marketing Architects’ history with Google in radio
    • [05:00] The FTC’s case against Amazon
    • [08:00] Why is search so important for marketers?
    • [13:30] How branded keywords save money
    • [18:30] How unique calls-to-action in TV affect search

    To learn more, visit marketingarchitects.com/podcast.
    Resources:
    2023 ABC News Article: https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/amazon-antitrust-lawsuit-long-arduous-journey-ftc-103862149
    2023 Reuters Article: https://www.reuters.com/technology/five-things-know-about-google-antitrust-trial-it-hits-halfway-mark-2023-10-12/
    Get more research-backed marketing strategies by subscribing to The Marketing Architects on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen to podcasts.

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