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    The Julia La Roche Show

    Julia La Roche brings her listeners in-depth conversations with some of the top CEOs, investors, founders, academics, and rising stars in business. Guests on “The Julia La Roche Show” have included Bill Ackman, Ray Dalio, Marc Benioff, Kyle Bass, Hugh Hendry, Nassim Taleb, Nouriel Roubini, David Friedberg, Anthony Scaramucci, Scott Galloway, Brent Johnson, Jim Rickards, Danielle DiMartino Booth, Carol Roth, Neil Howe, Jim Rogers, Jim Bianco, Josh Brown, and many more. Julia always makes the show about the guest, never the host. She speaks less and listens more. She always does her homework.

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    #372 Ted Oakley: Why Energy Could Surge Like Gold Did Last Year, and Most Investors Don't Own Enough May 21, 2026
    Show notes

    In this episode, Ted Oakley, founder and managing partner of Oxbow Advisors with 49 years in the business, returns to discuss the stark disconnect between Wall Street momentum and the collapsing consumer, revealing credit card and auto loan delinquencies are now at Great Financial Crisis levels while the economy has shifted from K-shaped to "i-shaped" with only a tiny dot at the top. He explains his letter "The Gambler" addresses how younger investors have abandoned real investing for a betting culture of sports gambling, one-day options, and Bitcoin, while most advisors no longer know when to "hold 'em or fold 'em." Ted maintains 50% cash in short-term treasuries, predicts inflation will hit 4.25% in May rising to 4.75% by fall with financial repression as the only way out of the debt trap, and reveals energy is his largest position up 35% year-to-date despite being only 3% of the S&P (it was 33% in 1980). He expects energy to rip like gold and silver did last year since nobody owns it yet, outlines his "well to the end" strategy covering producers to pipelines to rigs, confirms we're in early innings of a commodity super cycle, and warns speculation will continue pushing until a recession breaks the momentum. Ted draws parallels to 1999 when shorts got killed for nine more months, sees no recession on the horizon yet to break the fever, and cautions that baby boomers age 65+ hold more stock than ever in history making them the worst positioned he's ever seen for the eventual wealth transfer.



    Links:

    Oxbow Advisors: https://oxbowadvisors.com/

    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@OxbowAdvisors

    X: https://x.com/Oxbow_Advisors

    Book: https://www.amazon.com/Second-Generation-Wealth-What-Want/dp/1966629168


    Timestamps:

    0:00 Introduction - Ted Oakley returns, founder of Oxbow Advisors

    0:56 Two different things - Wall Street vs. the economy

    1:42 Consumer keeps falling apart - Credit card delinquencies at GFC levels

    2:24 K-shaped economy becoming more like an "i-shaped" economy

    3:32 "The Gambler" letter - Younger investors just betting, not investing

    4:02 Betting culture - Sports betting, one-day options, Bitcoin

    5:21 Know when to hold them, know when to fold them

    5:39 Cash position at 50% in short-term treasuries

    6:41 Long bond move - Topped 5.19% on 30-year

    6:57 Late 70s/early 80s parallel - Inflation went from 5% to 18%

    7:49 Are bond vigilantes coming back?

    7:54 Bond market eventually rules everything

    8:21 Expectation of more inflation ahead

    8:27 May CPI could come in at 4.25% or higher, 4.5-4.75% by fall

    9:30 Financial repression is the only way out

    10:36 Can't see how Fed cuts rates at all

    11:09 Asset holders benefited from inflation but that changes in linear inflation

    12:18 Energy is largest position - Up 35% vs. S&P's 20%

    13:11 Big tech stocks barely up from November/December levels

    13:41 Semiconductors probably at high for next 5 years

    14:34 Energy dramatically underweight in portfolios - Only 3% of S&P

    15:03 1980: Energy was 33% of S&P

    15:54 Energy names - Well to the end strategy

    16:53 Producers, midstream, rigs - The whole package

    17:34 Where we are in commodity cycle - Early innings

    18:38 Commodity positions - Rio Tinto, Vale, uranium, antimony, critical minerals

    19:18 Oil price and energy thesis

    20:16 AutoZone warning on motor oil shortages coming

    20:54 Precious metals positioning today

    21:54 Gold could go to $4,000 or $3,800 - Shake out momentum players

    23:12 1999 parallel - Momentum could continue 9 more months

    24:19 No recession on horizon - Need that to break momentum

    25:14 Speculative nature pushes until recession breaks it

    25:51 Second Generation Wealth - Massive wealth transfer concerns

    26:31 Baby boomers 65+ have most stock in assets ever in history

    27:22 Closing thoughts


    #371 George Noble: Fed's Hands Tied, Bond Vigilantes Waking Up, Buy the Dip Dead, Margin of Safety Thin May 19, 2026
    Show notes

    George Noble, CIO of Noble Capital Advisors, returns to review his February predictions on bonds, energy, and the AI trade, warning that the margin of safety is particularly small right now as there's no room for error with stocks highly valued, companies over-earning, and policymakers unable to ease on either fiscal or monetary fronts. He explains bond vigilantes are awakening as yields hit 30-year highs in Japan and 20-year highs in Europe, predicts the Fed cutting rates against surging inflation will backfire spectacularly, and reveals forward oil contracts are finally rising as the market believes this situation won't pass quickly. Noble declares we're in the "golden age for stock picking" after active managers got killed by ETFs for years, warns the consumer is already in recession with stocks like Home Depot, Lowe's, McDonald's, and Lululemon making multi-year relative lows, and explains his long resources/short consumer-tech spread has generated 10% returns in six weeks. He argues many stocks are in a bubble not because of high PEs but because of unsustainable margins (using shipping stocks as an analogy), reveals consumer ETFs are actually 40% Mag 7, confirms his "death of financialization" thesis as bond markets discipline politicians, and explains why Kevin Warsh is stuck between a rock and hard place with limited policy tools as the buy-the-dip mentality dies.


    Links:

    George Noble's Best Income Ideas Online Summit: https://noble-capevents.com/

    X: https://x.com/gnoble79

    Substack: https://substack.com/@georgenoble


    Timestamps:

    0:00 Introduction - Big picture macro update since February

    0:40 Reviewing previous predictions - Energy, bonds, AI trade

    3:32 Margin of safety particularly small right now

    5:30 Forward curve moving up - Market believing oil situation won't pass quickly

    6:02 Rising oil prices and bond yields - Not positive for risk assets

    8:40 Tech leadership unsustainable - Tremendous blow off top

    11:00 Buying semis on 8x book historically not a good idea

    12:26 Equal weight S&P underperforming - Broader market not doing well

    14:21 Long resources, short consumer and tech - 10% return spread

    17:03 Bond market move confirming death of financialization thesis

    19:52 Fed cutting rates against surging inflation and exploding deficits will backfire

    21:15 Bond market vigilantes being awakened

    23:38 Japan as canary in coal mine on debt problem

    25:33 Gold miners outstanding right now - Out of favor

    27:04 Regime shift happening - 60-40 model is dead

    29:36 Fed is not in control - They follow the market

    32:16 This is the golden age for stock picking

    34:21 AI trade - Biggest misallocation of capital in history of the world

    36:44 Many stocks in a bubble - Margins are the problem, not PEs

    38:37 Shipping stocks example - Bubble in earnings, not valuation

    40:20 Consumer is in recession

    42:06 Inflation permeating - Gold to energy to food

    43:28 Rates won't matter until they matter - Temperature analogy

    45:51 Kevin Warsh stuck between rock and hard place

    46:38 Margin of safety explained - Seth Klarman's wisdom

    50:11 Death of buy the dip mentality

    51:27 ETFs are not the answer - Do you know what's in your ETF?

    52:53 Golden age of stock picking - Active managers killing it now

    54:41 Shorting is a bad business - Just avoid garbage stocks

    56:50 Best Income Ideas Conference - May 20th

    59:05 Closing thoughts


    #370 Chris Whalen: Why Double-Digit Inflation Is Possible, 30-Year Tops 5% May 16, 2026
    Show notes

    In this episode of The Wrap, Chris Whalen breaks down Kevin Warsh's confirmation as Fed chair and explains why this represents a dramatic shift from the progressive, statist Fed created by Mariner Eccles in the 1930s to a supply-side approach. Whalen reveals that Fed chairs have enormous unilateral power and predicts Warsh will reduce the balance sheet and reserves while trading off lower short-term rates, ending the regime where "every time the market hiccupped, the Fed ran in and dumped more reserves." He warns the 30-year bond topping 5% is just the beginning, with the long end potentially hitting 6% as Iran war impacts drive inflation to double digits by year end, possibly requiring rationing of key petroleum byproducts before the midterms. Whalen explains why silver is surging (Chinese tech demand, solid-state batteries, reduced mining) while discussing non-bank mortgage drama with United Wholesale Mortgage potentially becoming "the next Countrywide." He argues stocks will continue rising as inflation hedges, dismisses apocalyptic debt scenarios since the world needs dollars for trade, and predicts we'll need to get used to mortgages in the 6-7% range instead of 4-5% under higher-for-longer.


    Thank you to our partners at Goldco. Get your free 2026 Gold & Silver Kit at https://goldco.com/thewrap or call 855-573-0817


    Links:

    The Institutional Risk Analyst: https://www.theinstitutionalriskanalyst.com/

    The Wrap: https://www.theinstitutionalriskanalyst.com/post/theira845

    Inflated book (2nd edition): https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/inflated-r-christopher-whalen/1146303673

    Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/rcwhalen


    Use the code TheWrap2026 for 25% off your first year of The Institutional Risk Analyst https://www.theinstitutionalriskanalyst.com/plans-pricing


    Timestamps:

    0:00 Introduction - Silver soars, Warsh confirmed, 30-year bond tops 5%

    0:32 Kevin Warsh confirmed as Fed chair - What changes now?

    6:14 Market

    7:29 Banks bought back more stock than they made money

    9:00 30-year bond hits 5% for first time since 2008

    9:56 Planning rationing strategies for key materials from petroleum

    11:04 Could get to double-digit inflation by end of year

    12:28 Long end of curve could get closer to 6% than 5%

    12:56 Trump meeting with Xi Jinping in Beijing - How big of a deal?

    14:25 Dow hitting 50,000 - Blow off top or still runway?

    19:02 Silver surging - What's going on?

    21:03 The next Countrywide?

    24:29 End game with higher for longer under Warsh

    27:09 Viewer mail - National debt and market impact

    29:19 Will Warsh treat Iran war inflation as self-correcting?

    30:33 What Chris is watching next week/closing thoughts


    #369 Melody Wright: 35-50% Housing Correction Needed, First Wave 10-12% Coming May 14, 2026
    Show notes

    Melody Wright, author of M3 Melody Substack, returns to the show for an in-person episode to discuss the frozen spring selling season and reveals disturbing signs of distress bubbling beneath the surface, including mortgage delinquencies rising at the exact time of year they should be falling. She exposes the "rage delisting" phenomenon where stubborn sellers refuse price cuts despite a massive inventory buildup, explains why the housing shortage narrative is a myth perpetuated by builders seeking a bailout, and warns that prime mortgages are now showing weakness for the first time. Melody argues that a 35-50% price correction is needed for median household income to afford median home prices, with the first wave of 10-12% likely over the next couple years. She reveals a massive shadow inventory wave from boomers that could add 20% more homes each year for the next decade, discusses how investors are fire selling (one investor dumping 300 rentals in a single market), and predicts the back half of 2026 could be "really ugly" as forbearance programs expire. Her advice: sellers should cut prices quickly to avoid cutting further, while buyers should stay patient because "the supply is coming."



    Links:

    YouTube; https://www.youtube.com/@m3_melody

    X: https://x.com/m3_melody

    Substack: https://m3melody.substack.com/


    Timestamps

    0:00 Introduction - Melody Wright returns, spring selling season

    1:59 Housing market assessment - "Take three of another year frozen"

    5:28 Distress bubbling under the surface

    8:15 Why the shortage narrative is so pervasive

    11:46 Tracking 86 markets now

    15:05 Most worrisome areas - The delusional northeast

    16:11 Boomer stubbornness and shadow inventory wave

    16:38 How big is the shadow inventory? 20% increase for next 10 years

    18:22 How far do prices need to correct? 35% to 50%

    20:42 Warning signals

    24:25 Most important thing overlooked

    27:36 Base case - 35% to 50% correction over significant time

    28:46 Spring season warning

    29:54 Back half of year could be really ugly

    30:17 Shortage of affordable homes because they're mispriced

    30:58 Advice for sellers - Get real appraisal, cut quickly

    32:36 Advice for buyers - Stay stubborn, wait for math to work

    33:04 How does this feel different from 2008?

    36:45 Who's buying now if institutionals are fire selling?

    37:57 Parting words - Patience for buyers, supply is coming


    #368 Michael Pento: The i-Shaped Economy Destroying the Middle Class, $2 Trillion Private Credit Bubble, and Why Credit Markets Will Fracture First May 12, 2026
    Show notes


    Michael Pento, president and founder of Pento Portfolio Strategies (PPS), returns to The Julia La Roche for episode 368 to warn that the three asset bubbles in stocks, credit, and real estate continue growing to unprecedented levels, with total market cap now at 230% of GDP versus a 90% average. He reveals that Powell has quietly printed $170 billion since December in an undeclared QE program, calls Powell's tenure "horrific," and celebrates his departure. Pento explains he's "nervously long" the market using his five-sector inflation-deflation model, currently positioned for stagflation with commodities, precious metals, and energy. He warns that credit markets will fracture first, with private credit now at $2 trillion (bigger than the $1.3 trillion subprime market in 2008), and predicts June redemptions could trigger a death spiral. Pento believes we need a 50% market correction to return to normalcy, warns we could see 15% interest rates like the 1980s but with a far worse debt backdrop, and argues the bottom 80% of Americans are already living in depression-like conditions while crony capitalism enriches the top 20%. He sees two paths forward: voluntary asset price reconciliation or forced hyperinflation leading to currency reset.


    Links:

    https://pentoport.com/

    https://twitter.com/michaelpento


    0:00 Introduction - Michael Pento returns after 6 months

    0:59 Big picture macro view - Bubbles grow bigger

    2:19 Powell's "horrific tenure" - $4.5 trillion printed

    3:32 QE program continues - $170 billion since December

    4:39 Kevin Warsh-led Fed - What changes are coming?

    5:52 Warsh will punish Wall Street, boost Main Street

    7:06 Stock bubble metrics - 230% of GDP (average is 90%)

    8:24 Crony capitalism vs. free market economics

    9:10 Why capitalism gets a bad name

    10:01 Home price to income ratio at all-time highs

    11:01 Disconnect between stock market highs and consumer sentiment lows

    11:35 Only top 20% doing well - The "i-shaped economy"

    12:33 AI spending reminds Michael of 1999 tech bubble

    13:33 Are you confident Kevin Warsh can get us back to normalcy?

    14:41 What would normal market valuations look like?

    15:06 Would need 50% correction to return to normal

    17:05 Wouldn't printing just set us up for more problems?

    18:57 Either scenario leads to higher rates

    19:37 Implications of double-digit rates on everything

    20:38 Are you still nervously long the market?

    21:19 Michael's not a perma bear - History of market crashes

    23:02 How dangerous can this bubble be when it bursts?

    24:03 Michael's 5-sector inflation-deflation model

    25:14 Precious metals trade - Why only 6% position

    26:41 Energy thesis - After Iran war

    27:30 Explaining the 5 sectors - Which is most worrisome?

    28:25 Stagflation is the base case going forward

    29:01 Post-recession: $6 trillion deficits, $12 trillion Fed balance sheet

    29:55 Could we see 15% interest rates like 1980?

    31:17 What's the end game here?

    33:21 Are we past the point of no return?

    34:58 Which bubble bursts first - The epicenter?

    35:44 Watch credit markets first - Private credit warning

    36:46 June redemptions could trigger death spiral

    37:47 Is private credit too big to fail now?

    38:21 Risk not getting attention - Pressure on middle class

    40:00 Buy now pay later defaults surging

    40:29 Bottom 80% living in depression conditions

    41:18 Preventing tremors creates epic shocks

    42:48 Has anyone talked about $170 billion of QE since December?

    43:24 What makes Michael hopeful for the future

    44:01 Closing thoughts


    #367 Chris Whalen: "No Rate Cuts For a While" — Warsh's Fed Earthquake, Silver Shortage, and Why Inflation Is Here to Stay May 09, 2026
    Show notes

    Warsh's arrival at the Fed actually means in practice — significant personnel changes, new models, and what Chris calls nothing short of an "earthquake at the central bank." Chris explains why there will be no rate cuts for a while, why the Fed balance sheet is growing again despite Warsh wanting to shrink it, and the one-to-one relationship between the balance sheet and public debt that most people aren't talking about. Plus: silver is in physical shortage and can't be delivered in parts of Asia, private credit is getting quiet as the bad headlines pile up, AMD is Chris's AI play of choice, and why the Iran war means "traumatic shortages by June" even if a deal were struck tomorrow. Chris also answers viewer questions on Warsh shrinking the balance sheet, gold under a tightening regime, the PennyMac LIBOR lawsuit, and Annaly Capital earnings. And Julia closes on her first house.


    Thank you to our partners at Goldco. Get your free 2026 Gold & Silver Kit at https://goldco.com/thewrap or call 855-573-0817


    Links:

    The Institutional Risk Analyst: https://www.theinstitutionalriskanalyst.com/

    The Wrap: https://www.theinstitutionalriskanalyst.com/post/theira842

    Inflated book (2nd edition): https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/inflated-r-christopher-whalen/1146303673

    Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/rcwhalen


    Use the code TheWrap2026 for 25% off your first year of The Institutional Risk Analyst https://www.theinstitutionalriskanalyst.com/plans-pricing


    Timestamps:

    0:00 Welcome & intro

    0:49 Fed balance sheet growing again even though Warsh wants to shrink it

    1:08 The one-to-one relationship between the Fed balance sheet and public debt

    3:28 Will we continue to see a more inflationary environment?

    3:37 Silver on a tear — physical shortage, can't deliver the metal

    4:41 Still money pouring into private credit

    8:32 Too many dollars chasing too few returns — what this means for markets

    11:10 Are we setting up for a longer term risk?

    12:13 GameStop CEO's bid for eBay — what does Chris make of it?

    14:08 Changing the models, retiring staff — "an earthquake at the central bank"

    16:32 "No rate cuts for a while" — Warsh has to establish rapport first

    19:25 Iran hostilities dragging on — how much longer is this a major risk?

    the year

    23:02 Adding to gold positions — "the selloff was a gift"

    25:36 Mortgage sector — rates up, companies waiting for cuts that aren't coming

    26:16 Banks not attractive right now — what would make them more attractive?

    27:30 Viewer Q — How could Warsh shrink the Fed balance sheet?

    27:56 Scarce reserve regime — T-bills, discount window, can he get it done?

    29:02 Viewer Q — Is gold a good investment under a tightening regime?

    29:52 Viewer Q — PennyMac lawsuit over LIBOR/SOFR transition

    31:31 Viewer Q — Annaly Capital earnings — "good earnings, beat expectations"

    32:13 What is Chris watching next week?

    33:17 GoldCo sponsor — goldco.com/thewrap — 855-573-0817


    #366 Michael Green: Why A 1987-Style Crash Is Now Almost Inevitable — Here's the Math May 07, 2026
    Show notes

    Michael Green, Chief Strategist and Portfolio Manager for Simplify Asset Management, joins Julia La Roche on episode 366 to break down what he calls the most important and overlooked structural shift in financial history — the rise of passive investing. Green argues that the market isn't broken in the way most people think: it's not fraud or irrational exuberance, it's the mechanical consequence of a regulatory change in 2006 that turned 401k contributions into an automatic, valuation-blind buying machine. With passive now at 55% of the market — and rising 4% per year — Green shares new research showing that somewhere between 65% and 80%, a 1987-style crash stops being a possibility and becomes nearly inevitable. He also connects the dots between our retirement system, the housing crisis, and why both boomers and millennials are scared — just for completely different reasons.


    Links:

    Follow Mike on X: https://twitter.com/profplum99Read

    Mike’s Substack: https://www.yesigiveafig.com/Visit Simplify: https://www.simplify.us/


    Timestamps

    00:00 Intro and welcome Mike Green

    1:04 - What "broken markets" actually means today

    2:40 - The Costanza market and how Mike's research began

    6:21 - Passive went from 2% to 55% of the market since 1992

    7:05 - Why passive investing is just momentum with no valuation filter

    9:45 - The 2006 Pension Protection Act — the legislation nobody talks about

    10:13 - Why Vanguard and Bogle aren't the ones to blame

    10:19 - The book: The Greatest Story Ever Sold

    10:39 - The academic paper that forced Mike to rewrite the book

    13:59 - Type A vs Type B savers — and the snow cone moment

    14:35 - Prices don't move because of information. They move because of flows.

    15:08 - The threshold: 65–80% passive and the market becomes unstable

    16:07 - Why the coming crash could be worse than 1987

    19:37 - The XIV collapse — and what it taught Mike about predicting crashes

    22:00 - Is there a disconnect between markets and the economy right now?

    22:19 - Nvidia's margins, vendor financing, and the Cisco parallel

    24:10 - The S&P could be worth less than 2,000 on a pure DCF basis

    25:29 - Pushing back on the "we've never been better off" narrative

    27:21 - The valley of death and the precarity line

    28:36 - Why demographics are at the center of everything

    29:29 - Why boomers are terrified too — and why that matters for younger people

    31:14 - The housing trap: boomers won't sell, millennials can't buy

    34:21 - What does all this say about the social fabric?

    35:18 - "Tax wealth, not work" — the tax code we had in the 1950s

    36:41 - Why a wealth tax is actually the wrong solution

    38:11 - Wrap up


    #365 Rick Rule: 'All The News I See Is Bad' — Oil Shortage, Gold & Why The Worst Is Still Ahead May 05, 2026
    Show notes

    Veteran natural resource investor Rick Rule, CEO of Rule Investment Media and co-founder of Battle Bank, returns to break down a rapidly deteriorating macro picture, warning that oil markets are currently pricing in anticipation of a shortage — not the shortage itself — and that the next seven to ten days could be a watershed moment if the Gulf conflict doesn't de-escalate. He explains why gold may moderate near term despite the chaos (strong dollar, rising yields), but remains convicted it will preserve purchasing power over the next decade as the US dollar loses 75% of its purchasing power. Rick also flags uranium and nuclear power as the clearest long-term beneficiary of the energy crisis, updates his silver miner trade (up ~21%), and sounds the alarm on a potential credit crunch in private and junk bond markets that few are talking about.


    00:00 — Introduction

    00:43 — Oil crisis: why prices are "anticipatory" & what happens in 7–10 days

    06:07 — The truth about gold & fear (it's not what you think)

    08:03 — Long bonds breach 5% — what that means for you

    11:31 — How to protect yourself: liquidity, gold & balance sheets

    15:36 — Gold at $4,800 & the silver miner trade update

    19:35 — Oil above $100 and what it signals about the global economy

    22:47 — Why the next 7–10 days are critical

    27:28 — The biggest unsung winner of this war: uranium & nuclear

    31:07 — How to actually invest in uranium (names & tickers)

    32:53 — Near-term bleak, long-term better — Rick's full outlook

    34:05 — Why is the stock market hitting new highs during a war?

    37:06 — New Fed Chair Kevin Warsh: hawk or not?

    38:54 — Where we are in the commodity super cycle

    41:44 — Battle Bank update + Symposium + free portfolio ranking offer




    #364: Chris Whalen: Powell Stays to "Block Trump" — Warsh Faces Major Obstacles and "The Fed Caused High Home Prices" May 02, 2026
    Show notes

    In this episode of The Wrap, Chris Whalen breaks down what he calls one of the most significant weeks in Fed history — Powell's final press conference as chairman, his decision to stay on as a Fed governor to block Trump from a second appointment, and what it means for Kevin Warsh walking into a hostile committee with the most dissenting votes since 1992. Chris explains why the Fed has been "the key engine of progressive socialism in Washington" since 1935, what a Warsh-led Fed actually looks like in practice, and why the Trump White House missed a political layup by not hanging "the burning tire of home price affordability" around Powell's neck. Plus: why sulfur — not oil — is the one word that sums up the biggest threat to the global economy right now, what China's sulfuric acid export ban means for copper, silver, and inflation, and why distressed real estate is "the next trade."


    Thank you to our partners at Goldco. Get your free 2026 Gold & Silver Kit at https://goldco.com/thewrap or call 855-573-0817


    Links:

    The Institutional Risk Analyst: https://www.theinstitutionalriskanalyst.com/

    The Wrap: https://www.theinstitutionalriskanalyst.com/post/theira840

    Inflated book (2nd edition): https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/inflated-r-christopher-whalen/1146303673

    Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/rcwhalen


    Use the code TheWrap2026 for 25% off your first year of The Institutional Risk Analyst https://www.theinstitutionalriskanalyst.com/plans-pricing


    Timestamps:

    0:00 Welcome & intro — what a week it was

    2:05 Powell staying as fed governor

    5:08 Warsh — "a hawk on inflation but a supply sider"

    7:15 Powell's warning about regional Fed presidents

    8:10 What can we expect from a Warsh-led Fed?

    11:30 "The burning tire they should have hung around Powell's neck"

    12:25 "What would be the message?" — Chris on political messaging and affordability

    14:44 What change is Chris most looking forward to at the Fed?

    16:41 Inflation is accelerating

    17:28 Sulfur — the one word that sums up the global economic threat

    20:17 What is Chris doing with his precious metals right now?

    21:17 US equity markets hitting record highs — what does Chris make of it? 24:30 Distressed real estate is "the next trade"

    29:40 One year anniversary of Inflated — reflection and what's come to fruition

    34:32 What is Chris watching next week?


    #363 Danielle DiMartino Booth: Powell's 'Patriotic' Stand Protecting Fed Independence, Fed Should Cut Despite Oil Prices, and Flirting With Liquidity Crisis as Non-Banks Too Big to Fail Apr 30, 2026
    Show notes

    In this episode, Danielle DiMartino Booth, CEO of QI Research and former Fed insider, explains why she's "less fed up" despite disagreeing with Fed policy - praising Jerome Powell's decision to stay on as governor to protect Fed independence, drawing parallels to Marriner Eccles' 1948 stand against President Truman. Danielle calls Powell's move "patriotic" while warning we're "flirting with a liquidity crisis" as non-banks have become "too big to fail." She discusses the challenges Kevin Warsh will face as incoming chair, argues the Fed has failed its employment mandate, and explains how the economy cannot withstand persistently high oil prices and interest rates simultaneously.


    Links:

    Danielle's Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/dimartinobooth

    Substack: https://dimartinobooth.substack.com/

    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@DanielleDiMartinoBoothQI

    Fed Up: https://www.amazon.com/Fed-Up-Insiders-Federal-Reserve/dp/0735211655


    Timestamps:

    0:00 Introduction - Fed day with Danielle DiMartino Booth

    0:32 Powell's last time at the podium - Takeaways

    1:48 The Eccles parallel - Fed independence fight in 1948

    2:39 Why Danielle is "less fed up" today

    2:57 The Powell move - Staying on as governor

    4:20 Risk of being perceived as shadow Fed chair?

    5:39 Triple hawkish dissent

    6:16 Unprecedented dissent levels - Early resistance signs?

    7:57 Powell's legacy and how it changed today

    9:22 The Eccles legacy - Established as governor, not chair

    10:27 Powell's move was "patriotic" - Protecting Fed independence

    11:27 What is your read on Kevin Warsh?

    12:48 Liquidity crises take precedence - The Mike Tyson test

    13:40 0% chance of rate cut - Should they have cut?

    14:47 Fed has failed its employment mandate

    16:48 Oil prices and disinflationary demand destruction

    17:17 Bankruptcies accelerating, layoffs increasing

    18:01 Home prices falling - Thinking about inflation wrong

    19:16 The valley of death at $100k income level

    19:32 Higher for longer means more pain

    20:34 How does building consensus at the Fed work?

    22:04 Flirting with a liquidity crisis - How big is the risk?

    22:38 Pummeling the housing market

    23:26 More sellers than buyers - Biggest disconnect ever

    24:09 Investment boom or panic stockpiling ahead of tariffs?

    25:27 Economy can't withstand high oil and high rates

    28:07 Base case for rest of 2026 - Fed cuts

    30:43 If you could advise Kevin Warsh, what would you say?

    32:17 Bloomberg chat - hot takes with institutional investors

    33:34 What's keeping you up at night and making you hopeful?

    35:37 Non-banks now too big to fail

    37:06 Systemic risk from non-banking system

    37:25 Mother's Day tribute - Legacy and three graduating kids

    38:03 Closing thoughts


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