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    The Dividend Cafe

    The Dividend Cafe is your portal for market perspective that is virtually conflict-free, rooted in deep philosophical commitments about how capital should be managed, and understandable for all sorts of investors. Host David L. Bahnsen is a frequent guest on CNBC, Bloomberg, and Fox Business. He is the author of the books, Crisis of Responsibility: Our Cultural Addiction to Blame and How You Can Cure It (Post Hill Press), The Case for Dividend Growth: Investing in a Post-Crisis World (Post Hill Press), and Full-Time: Work and the Meaning of Life (Post Hill Press).

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    Wednesday - October 28, 2026 Oct 28, 2026
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    Brian Szytel reports a third straight up day for markets on a Fed day as the Fed held rates steady, upgraded the economy from “solid” to “strong,” and noted two dissenters favoring a hike amid supply shocks and inflation concerns; he expects the pause to be election-related, with an 86% chance of a December hike and two to three more priced in thereafter, implying a 4.50%–4.75% terminal fed funds range. Markets were modestly higher (Dow +97; S&P and Nasdaq +0.25%), yields barely moved, WTI remained above $100, and inventories data were mostly in line. He addresses a question comparing China’s “ghost city” overbuilding to U.S. data centers, arguing the U.S. build-out is smaller (~3% of GDP vs. ~30%), more market-driven, and closer to dot-com fiber overinvestment risk than China’s state-led, debt-heavy model.

    00:00 Market Snapshot

    00:13 Fed Holds Rates

    01:51 Earnings and Rates

    02:22 Day’s Data Recap

    02:49 Question on Data Centers

    03:29 China Ghost Cities

    05:06 US Data Center Risks

    06:42 Wrap Up and Thanks

    Links mentioned in this episode: DividendCafe.com

    TheBahnsenGroup.com


    Tuesday - October 27, 2026 Oct 27, 2026
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    Brian Szytel broadcasts from the Bahnsen Group’s Newport Beach headquarters on Tuesday, Oct. 27, describing a late-session recovery led by AI-related tech, with mixed underlying breadth: the Dow up 15, S&P 500 up 0.6%, Nasdaq up 1.2%, and the 10-year Treasury ending at 5.0%. With ~40% of S&P 500 companies reporting earnings this week and an FOMC decision imminent, he cautions against top-down investing or positioning around elections, citing Brazil’s surprise result and market drop, and urges a fundamentals-based, bottom-up approach; he notes an upcoming David Bahnsen interview with Mark Halperin on Nov. 5. He reviews economic data (durable goods up 1.8%, softer Case-Shiller, slightly better new home sales, consumer confidence 91.7) and discusses Middle East risk and WTI oil near $100. He also explains high gas prices as a global supply-demand commodity issue, not price gouging, noting U.S. exports of light sweet crude and imports of heavy sour crude for refinery needs.

    00:00 Market Wrap and AI Rebound

    01:20 Earnings Week and Fed Watch

    01:49 Why Top-Down Bets Fail

    03:39 Midterms Talk and Upcoming Interview

    04:08 Economic Data Rundown

    04:56 Oil and Geopolitical Backdrop

    05:31 Why Gas Prices Stay High

    07:02 Closing Thoughts

    Links mentioned in this episode: DividendCafe.com

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    Monday - October 26, 2026 Oct 26, 2026
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    Today's Post - https://bahnsen.co/4yKFqXT

    From Newport Beach, the episode recaps a modest market rebound (Dow +146, S&P +0.7%, Nasdaq +0.82%) with tech leading while communication services lagged, and highlights the 10-year yield at 4.99% after falling ~35 bps in two weeks, which the host attributes more to supply/demand and positioning than inflation. He notes elevated volatility, worsening market breadth and concentration risk, and “under the hood” weakness despite the S&P being near highs. Major items include Brazil’s election (Lula victory and a sharp equity drop), a $63B AI-compute financing structure tied to Broadcom/Anthropic, and Meta announcing a $95B stock sale plan. He flags unverified reports about Fetterman, possible Iran strike escalation, and progress on a Canada trade deal. The week ahead includes Q3 GDP (~3.3%), a Fed meeting (markets price 90% no hike), hyperscaler earnings, high mortgage rates, and elevated oil.

    00:00 Welcome From Newport

    00:48 Market Close Recap

    01:58 Bond Yields And Fed

    03:38 Market Breadth Warning

    05:39 Under The Hood Losses

    06:45 Global And Deal News

    08:09 Politics And Geopolitics

    09:21 GDP Housing And Energy

    11:02 Ask TBG And Week Ahead

    12:00 Closing Thoughts

    Links mentioned in this episode: DividendCafe.com

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    A Treadmill Market: Feeling Good while Going Nowhere Oct 23, 2026
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    Today's Post - https://bahnsen.co/3TYkoXw

    David Bahnsen explains how range-bound, volatile markets can feel productive yet deliver flat or mediocre returns over long stretches, citing the S&P 500 from 2000–2009 (about -0.9%/year with dividends) and the Dow from 1966–1981 (flat on price but roughly 4–4.5%/year with dividends). He notes periods when dividends comprise most or all of total return, but shifts to today’s math: recent S&P gains (about 15% annualized over 15 years and 22.9% over three) imply either a higher long-run average or future below-mean returns via sharp declines or prolonged choppiness. Applying this to AI, he highlights NVIDIA’s flat year despite strong fundamentals, with Palantir down 7% and CoreWeave down ~60% amid 100% revenue growth, arguing that unknowability, capital constraints, and high valuations can yield unsatisfying stock returns even if AI succeeds, and he advocates dividend growth as a way to navigate volatility and reduce left-tail risk.

    00:00 Welcome and Setup

    02:21 Why Flat Feels Busy

    03:33 Lost Decade S&P 2000s

    05:58 Sideways Seventies Dow

    07:29 Dividends Matter Most

    09:21 Mean Reversion Math

    11:44 AI Poster Child Nvidia

    13:42 Flat Stocks Despite Growth

    16:21 Capital Risks and CapEx

    22:24 Unknowability Meets Valuation

    24:25 Dividend Growth Solution

    26:12 Closing Thoughts

    Links mentioned in this episode: DividendCafe.com

    TheBahnsenGroup.com


    Thursday - October 22, 2026 Oct 22, 2026
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    In this Dividend Cafe episode, Brian Szytel reviews a highly dispersed market day: the Dow finished slightly up while the S&P 500 fell 1.25% and the Nasdaq dropped 2.6% as high-valuation growth, tech, semis, and AI-related names sold off sharply. Treasury yields declined broadly, with the 10-year down 15 bps to 4.96%, while WTI rose about 2% to 99 amid Middle East uncertainty. He notes initial jobless claims were 194,000 versus 200,000 expected and argues more reasonably valued, dividend-oriented areas held up better. He also explains the difference between non-purpose lending and margin, highlighting total margin debt around $1.5T (near 5% of GDP), elevated versus 2000 and 2021, with high leverage and lower net equity increasing risk and potential volatility.

    00:00 Welcome and Market Recap

    00:50 Rates Oil and Sector Dispersion

    01:39 AI Valuations and CapEx Reality

    02:07 Jobless Claims and What Worked

    02:33 Margin vs Non Purpose Loans

    03:43 Record Margin Debt and Risk

    04:52 Portfolio Positioning Takeaways

    05:17 Wrap Up and Disclosures

    Links mentioned in this episode: DividendCafe.com

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    Wednesday - October 21, 2026 Oct 21, 2026
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    Brian Szytel reviews a constructive midweek market update: the Dow rose 360 points, the S&P 500 gained about 0.6%, and the Nasdaq was up a little over 1% as tech and growth led on early strong tech earnings expectations; energy is also expected to post blowout earnings due to higher oil prices. He notes calm interest rates with the 10-year around 5.12, WTI near $98 and Brent about $109, plus a quieter geopolitical backdrop ahead of midterm elections, though there is talk of relocating some U.S. embassy officials and families in the Gulf. He discusses the delayed Anthropic IPO and highlights the AI landscape’s enormous future compute and chip-lease commitments versus current revenues, warning of underappreciated counterparty and circular financing risks. Addressing a question on off-balance-sheet financing, he distinguishes today’s structures from 2008-era SPVs, but stresses understanding obligations and who ultimately “holds the paper,” with major diversified firms most able to absorb the risk.

    00:00 Market Update Kickoff

    00:09 Stocks Rally and Rotation

    01:33 Rates Oil and Geopolitics

    02:09 AI IPO Spending Shock

    03:29 Hidden Risks and Commitments

    04:48 Off Balance Sheet Financing Explained

    06:33 Who Holds the Bag

    07:41 Wrap Up and Sign Off

    Links mentioned in this episode: DividendCafe.com

    TheBahnsenGroup.com


    Tuesday - October 20, 2026 Oct 20, 2026
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    Brian Szytel recaps an up day for the Dow (with the S&P slightly up and Nasdaq flat), framing it as ongoing rotation from growth to value amid solid earnings trends but mixed sector results and stress signals in credit, including widening high-yield CCC spreads and leveraged “neo cloud” providers facing double-digit financing costs and rising CDS. The key data focus is housing, described as broadly weak: housing starts fell 4.5% to 859,000 and pending home sales dropped 7.3% in September, reflecting a frozen market driven by locked-in low mortgage rates, high homeowner equity, and record-low affordability as mortgage rates jumped from 6.8% to 7.4%. He contrasts today with 2006, notes rents and owner’s equivalent rent ticking higher, and answers a question on CCC distress by explaining spreads don’t always equal insolvency, outlining refinancing risk and “creative destruction” dynamics.

    00:00 Market Wrap And Rotation

    00:35 Earnings And Credit Undercurrents

    01:26 Housing Data Turns Ugly

    02:22 Why Prices Stay Firm

    03:13 Affordability Squeeze Explained

    04:25 Rent Inflation Feedback Loop

    05:07 What Unfreezes Housing

    06:08 CCC Spreads Question Answered

    07:56 Refinancing Wall And Defaults

    08:22 Creative Destruction And Wrap Up

    Links mentioned in this episode: DividendCafe.com

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    Monday - October 19, 2026 Oct 19, 2026
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    Today's Post - https://bahnsen.co/4yXvACK

    David Bahnsen reviews a volatile news weekend and announces The Bahnsen Group’s new Santa Barbara office. Markets were mixed (Dow flat, S&P up 0.4%, Nasdaq up ~1%) amid unusual breadth and rotation dynamics, while AI-related “pick-and-shovel” names faced pressure tied to funding concerns and slowing expectations for the rate of AI capex growth. The 10-year yield rose to 5.14% and sector performance diverged sharply (consumer discretionary led; utilities lagged). He notes Goldman Sachs earning more from lending against equities than equity trading, signaling rising leverage and potential volatility, and highlights a NASDAQ/2000-style chart comparison. He discusses violent unrest in France, a 50/50 Senate outlook and likely Democratic House control, key economic data (US industrial production +0.7%, China Q3 GDP 4.5%), surging US mortgage payments, falling homebuilder sentiment, and Fed signals favoring no October hike but likely December. Earnings season accelerates, with midstream energy updates and a forthcoming Friday episode on range-bound markets.

    00:00 Welcome and Updates

    01:25 Market Close Recap

    01:59 Breadth Rotation and AI

    04:36 Yields Sectors and Leverage

    06:30 Rhyming Market Charts

    07:15 France Unrest and Elections

    09:23 Economic Data Roundup

    10:05 Housing Affordability Squeeze

    10:56 Fed Outlook and Oil

    12:21 Earnings Season and Wrap

    Links mentioned in this episode: DividendCafe.com

    TheBahnsenGroup.com


    Lightly Held Views, Aggressive Investments – Money Manager Week Oct 16, 2026
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    Today's Post - https://bahnsen.co/47k5xcW

    David Bahnsen recaps The Bahnsen Group’s annual “money manager week,” describing its history since 2006 and explaining how he, Brian Szytel, and Kenny Molina held nearly 30 meetings and later debriefed with their investment committee. He highlights a major, disappointing lesson from an emerging markets manager whose portfolio shifted heavily into AI/semiconductor-related positions and who said they “hold views lightly while expressing it aggressively,” prompting Bahnsen to stress the importance of consistent philosophy, disciplined process, and accountability over peer-pressure-driven positioning; the team must now reallocate nearly $200 million. Additional takeaways include heightened acrimony among alternative and private credit managers, wide dispersion and growing nuance in AI views, evidence that parts of the September AI/semiconductor rally were driven by catch-up flows, the need to separate AI beta from company-specific skill, and the increasingly systemic nature of AI exposure across markets.

    00:00 Welcome and Setup

    00:48 Why This Trip Matters

    01:21 Origins in 2006

    02:53 Crisis Lessons 2008

    03:58 How The Trip Evolved

    05:14 Growth Portfolio Shift

    06:21 Mutual Fund Tax Trap

    07:12 Exiting The Growth Manager

    08:05 Emerging Markets Mentor

    09:51 AI Pivot Shock

    11:29 Hold Lightly Quote

    12:50 Conviction and Discipline

    16:42 Other Meeting Takeaways

    17:25 AI Views and Catch Up

    19:07 AI Beta Versus Skill

    20:21 Systemic AI Exposure

    21:03 Consistency Above All

    21:38 Closing and Next Episode

    22:00 Disclosures

    Links mentioned in this episode: DividendCafe.com

    TheBahnsenGroup.com


    Thursday - October 15, 2026 Oct 15, 2026
    Show notes

    Brian Szytel recaps a volatile market day marked by value outperforming growth, dividend payers beating growth-oriented stocks, and equal-weight indices outperforming cap-weighted, alongside notable bond-market swings following hotter-than-expected CPI and a sharply higher PPI print. He reviews key economic data: initial jobless claims in line, retail sales far above expectations, and improving manufacturing readings (Philly Fed and Empire State), suggesting a strong consumer and near full employment. On inflation, headline PPI rose 1.3% m/m and core PPI 0.7% versus lower consensus forecasts, implying core PCE may run around 3.2% y/y, keeping pressure on the Fed to continue hiking, with additional hikes priced in. He argues the bond market signals concern about slowing growth rather than runaway inflation, noting low inflation break-evens and a very flat yield curve, favoring shorter-duration, income-oriented assets. In Q&A, he addresses SpaceX/Starlink’s potential impact on Verizon, emphasizing rural competition risk but highlighting existing telecom infrastructure, dividend coverage by free cash flow, and monitoring rising capex needs.

    00:00 Market Whiplash Recap

    02:09 Economic Data Rundown

    02:40 PPI Shock And Inflation

    03:45 Fed Path And Bonds

    04:45 Yield Curve And Strategy

    05:16 Verizon Versus Starlink

    07:04 Wrap Up And Disclosures

    Links mentioned in this episode: DividendCafe.com

    TheBahnsenGroup.com


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