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    The DigitalMarketer Podcast

    The DigitalMarketer Podcast takes you on a journey through the world of digital marketing, diving deep into the topics that digital marketers, like you, can use to help grow your skills and your business. The podcast is produced by the Scalable Media Network and hosted by Mark Degrasse and fellow DM contributors. Listen to interviews with key players in the digital marketing industry, bringing real-world insight and examples to help you understand how to implement the best marketing strategies that are working right now. So, whether you’re a seasoned digital marketing expert, or you’re on your path to becoming one, this podcast is perfect for you. What are you waiting for? Turn up the volume, press play, and start your path to becoming the smartest person in the room.

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    Latest Episodes:
    Crafting SOPs for Business Success with Ngāhuia Galligan Jan 18, 2024
    Show notes

    What is the process for creating SOPs? And what are some of the mistakes that people make when systematizing things that they do all the time?


    Today we're talking SOPs (Standard Operating Procedures) and how important they are when it comes to scaling your business. And not just scaling your business, but standing out too!


    If you're looking to create a step-by-step process for your business, where should you start? Is it the easiest thing that you can outsource – or is it perhaps the one that's the most draining?


    Do we focus on the process or the outcome? When do we let go of control and remove ourselves strategically from the SOP process? How do we measure our efficiency so that we know what we have to improve upon?


    To answer all these questions is Ngāhuia Lane Galligan, a returning guest from episode 357 - https://www.digitalmarketer.com/podcast/digitalmarketer/harnessing-systems-and-processes/


    Ngāhuia is the Founder of Harness, a company that focuses on Systems and Processes Design, as well as Documentation & Implementation.


    SOPs have never sounded so sexy in this episode of DigitalMarketer which demonstrates that SOPs can be dynamic and empowering and constantly improving. It's time to create systems that serve the people! Please join us.


    To find out more about Ngāhuia Lane Galligan and how Harness can help you plan your process, please check out harnesshq.com/digitalmarketer


    Key Takeaways:

    01:27 Why are SOPs so important at the small business level?

    03:17 Three common mistakes we make when creating SOPs

    08:35 Where should you start with creating an SOP?

    12:00 How to reduce client churn with the right SOP

    15:54 The importance of personalization

    19:00 Moving from delegation to trust

    23:20 How do we scale our people? Creating systems that serve

    26:30 The importance of personal accountability

    29:49 What is the outcome you want from being in business?

    33:00 Creating SOPs for the right hire!

    35:07 Managing your business by process


    Connect with Ngāhuia Lane Galligan:

    Website - https://harnesshq.com/digitalmarketer

    LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/laneygalligan/


    Be sure to subscribe to the podcast at: https://www.digitalmarketer.com/podcast/

    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/digitalmarketer

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/digitalmarketer/

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/digital-marketer/


    This Month's Sponsors:

    • Conversion Fanatics - Conversion Rate Optimization Agency
    • Get 50% Off Monthly Blog Writing Service - BKA Content

    More Resources from Scalable

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    • FREE EPIC Challenge

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    • Business Lunch - Sit down every week with some of the most successful people in the world. Hosted by Roland Frasier and Ryan Deiss

    Mentioned in this episode:

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    Understanding Human Experience Optimization as the New SEO with Amara Omoregie Jan 16, 2024
    Show notes

    Does the internet feel broken to you, or confusing even? How do we, as digital marketers, adjust to 'modern SEO' to get our clients noticed in a world where backlinks and directories just aren't cutting it anymore?


    Amara Omoregie has the solution for us, and in a way, it's already here under our noses.


    Search Engine Optimization (SEO) needs to become Human Experience Optimization (HEO) if we are to provide people with a viable alternative to asking their closed Facebook groups (dark social) for advice on a good plumber.


    The way that we do that, according to Amara, is by properly understanding Google's knowledge graph as well as 'schema' and structured data. And while your traffic might drop a bit, the quality of intentional searching for your brand will be better in the long run.


    Learn about natural link attraction and Rank Math as the perfect plugin to help you understand your SEO better in a conversation that will leave you super informed on where SEO is going.


    It's time to clean up the internet and for us all to feel far less out to sea in this sea of confusing search results that load far too slowly anyway to properly process! Amara is here to show us how.


    Amara Omoregie is the founder of amarareps.com, a company that provides a data-driven, humancentric approach to driving consistent, scalable revenue.


    Her company focuses on aligning sales, marketing, and customer experience for maximum impact and growth efficiency.


    Key Takeaways:

    01:33 Why is organic traffic declining?

    05:17 How SEO used to be versus how it is now

    06:30 The value of natural link attraction for SEO

    09:16 Understanding the evolution of Search Engine Results Pages

    13:22 Why a reduction in traffic isn't necessarily a bad thing

    15:10 Schema.org for better-structured data

    18:17 Using the Rank math plugin to understand your schema

    20:20 How AI is using structured data

    23:15 How the search experience will soon mimic generative AI

    24:54 Why we need to think about SEO in new ways (Human Experience Optimization)

    28:04 Check out amarareps.com for more!


    Resources Mentioned:

    Rank Math - https://rankmath.com/


    Connect with Amara Omoregie:

    Website - AmaraREPS - https://amarareps.com/


    Be sure to subscribe to the podcast at: https://www.digitalmarketer.com/podcast/

    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/digitalmarketer

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/digitalmarketer/

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/digital-marketer/


    This Month's Sponsors:

    • Conversion Fanatics - Conversion Rate Optimization Agency
    • Get 50% Off Monthly Blog Writing Service - BKA Content

    More Resources from Scalable

    • [Free Guide & Assessment] 7 Levels of Scale
    • FREE EPIC Challenge

    More Shows You'll Love

    • Perpetual Traffic - The #1 podcast for learning paid traffic and improving your conversions!
    • Business Lunch - Sit down every week with some of the most successful people in the world. Hosted by Roland Frasier and Ryan Deiss

    Mentioned in this episode:

    Become A Certified E-Commerce Marketing Master

    Take the Industry's Most Comprehensive E-Commerce Marketing Certification for the Modern Marketer!

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    How to Craft Offers That Sell by Solving Client Problems with Eugene Song Jan 09, 2024
    Show notes

    What good is an offer if you can't convert? Lead conversion services, like sales follow-up to make offers more compelling, is today's hot topic, and here to discuss it is the Director Of Strategic Operations at Alien Leads, Eugene Song.


    Eugene is sharing the insights he gained from reading Alex Hormozi's book, 'The $100M Offer'. He learned that he needed to focus more on solving client problems than just trying to scale.


    Along with tips on lead conversion optimization, Eugene and Mark also discuss ideas for new offers around sales funnel building and using AI for lead handling. They also dream of an imminent AI future where you can train your digital personal assistant to navigate your desktop and do more grunt work.


    Learn about 'speed to contact' and turning 'the offer' into a product service development process for your business in an episode of DigitalMarketer that reminds us that sales funnels are the lifeblood of your business.


    Eugene Song oversees marketing campaigns in multiple channels in the financial industry, with his specialty being Search Engine Optimization.


    Key Takeaways:

    03:05 What Eugene got out of Alex Hormozi's '100 Million Dollar Offer'

    07:30 Learning how to put your own skill sets together creatively for your offer

    08:40 Understanding 'Speed to Contact'

    12:46 Turning 'the offer' into a product service development process

    15:00 Sales funnels as the lifeblood of your business

    20:50 Making the entrepreneurial mistake of thinking about 'scale' first

    24:36 If you learn enough, you'll be able to adjust to anything

    26:50 What are the 3 big projects you can accomplish every quarter?

    28:47 Mark's initial thoughts on trying ChatGPT when it first came out

    33:44 Having a personal digital assistant that can control your desktop


    Connect with Eugene Song:

    Website - Alien Leads - https://alienleads.com/


    Be sure to subscribe to the podcast at: https://www.digitalmarketer.com/podcast/

    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/digitalmarketer

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/digitalmarketer/

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/digital-marketer/


    This Month's Sponsors:

    • Conversion Fanatics - Conversion Rate Optimization Agency
    • Get 50% Off Monthly Blog Writing Service - BKA Content

    More Resources from Scalable

    • [Free Guide & Assessment] 7 Levels of Scale
    • FREE EPIC Challenge

    More Shows You'll Love

    • Perpetual Traffic - The #1 podcast for learning paid traffic and improving your conversions!
    • Business Lunch - Sit down every week with some of the most successful people in the world. Hosted by Roland Frasier and Ryan Deiss

    Mentioned in this episode:

    Become A Certified E-Commerce Marketing Master

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    Ecom Cert


    How To Enhance Your Marketing Game with Jordan Wilson's AI Insights Jan 02, 2024
    Show notes

    What can you use AI for immediately to enhance your marketing? If you're not having an ‘expert chat’ with your pro version of ChatGPT in the morning for breakfast, you're probably doing it wrong.


    As marketers we need to be two steps ahead of everybody else and always first to the party. This means shelling out the twenty bucks a month for the expert version of ChatGPT and actually training it in your brand voice and cadence. That’s for starters!


    Today's guest is Jordan Wilson, host of the 'Everyday AI' podcast. He's overcome the fear, embraced the learning curve, and is working with Large Language Models (LLM) AI technology to automate his business, conduct his research, and chat with him in the mornings!


    As we close in on a year of AI being on everyone's lips, for some people it still feels new. For others, like Jordan, he's learned how to hone his relationship with the tools to save himself time, money, and effort in the long run.


    This episode offers practical tips to those marketers still wanting to get to the party on time to understand where they can up their AI game. Please join us.


    Jordan Wilson is the Founder and CEO of Accelerant Agency and the Founder and Host of 'Everyday AI Podcast'. You can find him online at youreverydayai.com


    Key Takeaways:

    02:19 Why is AI still 'new' to some people?

    06:04 Trusting AI over more primitive forms of search

    08:22 How you need patience to overcome the fear

    08:56 Using ChatGPT to know your company voice

    10:29 The value of teaching generative AI your cadence

    12:43 Investing the time to train AI upfront

    14:10 The importance of using AI for research and analysis

    18:38 Giving your AI access to your spreadsheets

    19:42 Appreciating business automation within ChatGPT

    23:48 Thinking two steps ahead as a marketer

    26:23 Getting over the fear (and initial learning curve)


    Connect with Jordan Wilson:

    Website - https://youreverydayai.com/


    Be sure to subscribe to the podcast at: https://www.digitalmarketer.com/podcast/

    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/digitalmarketer

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/digitalmarketer/

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/digital-marketer/


    This Month's Sponsors:

    • Conversion Fanatics - Conversion Rate Optimization Agency
    • Get 50% Off Monthly Blog Writing Service - BKA Content

    More Resources from Scalable

    • [Free Guide & Assessment] 7 Levels of Scale
    • FREE EPIC Challenge

    More Shows You'll Love

    • Perpetual Traffic - The #1 podcast for learning paid traffic and improving your conversions!
    • Business Lunch - Sit down every week with some of the most successful people in the world. Hosted by Roland Frasier and Ryan Deiss

    Mentioned in this episode:

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    How to Write Your Next Book Using AI with Markus Heitkoetter Dec 26, 2023
    Show notes

    How can you use AI to write your next book? As we get to the tail end of a year that has been punctuated by the introduction of AI apps that assist us in our creative process, Markus Heitkoetter has turned to AI as his sparring partner to help him write his next book.


    A successful real estate investor with a few book titles already under his belt, Markus has not been afraid to gamify his writing process and hopefully save his editor some time in the long run by turning to AI for constructive, objective feedback.


    In this episode, we look at the specifics of AI software such as Claude and Elicit that are perhaps better suited for uploading big documents and checking your research as you fine-tune your own prompt engineering process.


    There's still a creative process to be had that needn't be as daunting as staring at a blank page trying to draw blood from a stone.


    If your next masterpiece is waiting inside you but you're afraid to let it out, perhaps this conversation will encourage you to get the creative juices flowing as you put pen to paper and create 'your best book yet.'


    Markus Heitkoetter is the Founder of RockwellTrading.com. A link to some of his previous book titles (written without AI) can be found below.


    Key Takeaways:

    01:14 Why has Markus decided to use AI to write his next book?

    03:35 Using Claude (AI) as your sparring partner to create a book brief

    05:29 Using AI to get constructive feedback on your ideas

    07:48 The joy of instant feedback (and how that improves your creativity)

    12:30 Learning to 'gamify' the writing process

    16:57 Using Perplexity AI for your research (and ELICIT.ORG)


    Resources Mentioned:

    Claude AI - https://claude.ai/

    Elicit AI - https://elicit.com/


    Connect with Markus Heitkoetter:

    Markus’s Books on Amazon - https://www.amazon.com/s?k=markus+heitkoetter

    Website - https://www.rockwelltrading.com/markus-up-close-and-personal/

    Personal - Markus Heitkoetter - http://markus-heitkoetter.com/


    Be sure to subscribe to the podcast at: https://www.digitalmarketer.com/podcast/

    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/digitalmarketer

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/digitalmarketer/

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/digital-marketer/


    This Month's Sponsors:

    • Conversion Fanatics - Conversion Rate Optimization Agency
    • Get 50% Off Monthly Blog Writing Service - BKA Content

    More Resources from Scalable

    • [Free Guide & Assessment] 7 Levels of Scale
    • FREE EPIC Challenge

    More Shows You'll Love

    • Perpetual Traffic - The #1 podcast for learning paid traffic and improving your conversions!
    • Business Lunch - Sit down every week with some of the most successful people in the world. Hosted by Roland Frasier and Ryan Deiss

    Mentioned in this episode:

    Become A Certified E-Commerce Marketing Master

    Take the Industry's Most Comprehensive E-Commerce Marketing Certification for the Modern Marketer!

    Ecom Cert


    Beyond Infobesity: Crafting Compelling Content Consistently with Geoffrey Klein Dec 21, 2023
    Show notes

    How do you create consistency with your content? And how do you make sure your content is worth the time people are going to give you to pay attention to it?


    As new distribution tools for content continue to evolve, being able to communicate through telling a story is more important than ever.


    So too is being consistently on brand and being consistent over time. Even if it means repurposing old content and resharing it again when something you once said (and banished to a hard drive folder) is suddenly newsworthy again.


    This is the advice of Geoffrey Klein, AKA Mr. Purple, author of ‘The Content Beast: Create story-driven content to connect with your audience’.


    Geoffrey is sharing the successful strategy behind how he got 352K views on his TEDx talk and the content campaign he did leading up to it.


    Old-school marketing values are espoused in today's episode reminding us to continue the conversation with our customers beyond the transaction.


    It's about building a relationship; it's about how we make our customers feel.


    And to get there, to that place where you've captured your customer's attention and imagination, requires reverse engineering content from what they care about to what you then create.


    Learn how Mr. Purple did just that with content pillars that battle 'infobesity' - and more!


    Geoffrey Klein is the Founder, President, and CEO of 9 Dots. You can check out his new book, ‘The Content Beast: Create story-driven content to connect with your audience’, at the link below.


    Key Takeaways:

    01:12 How is content evolving? Appreciating the new distribution tools (and the old model of storytelling)

    02:50 Understanding 'infobesity'

    04:16 The 11th Commandment: 'Know Thy Audience' (adopting a customer-centric mentality)

    07:00 How to connect good content with a revenue stream

    08:25 Understanding the Story PAD (Pain, Answer, Difference it makes)

    11:58 How to differentiate between content for brand awareness and content for retention (CLV)

    16:24 How to justify your content marketing campaign to an executive

    18:15 How consistency leads to loyalty (and brand advocacy)

    19:36 Why having an integrated content strategy is so important

    20:50 How Geoffrey's TEDx talk got so many eyeballs

    22:18 'Playing the hits': repurposing successful content and resharing it

    25:24 Understanding audience segmentation

    27:32 How content connects you (and reinforces that connection over time)

    28:50 ‘ERA’: Experiment, Review, Adjust!


    Connect with Geoffrey Klein:

    LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ggklein/

    Buy Geoffrey’s book - Amazon.com: The Content Beast eBook : Klein, Geoffrey: Kindle Store

    Website - https://ninedotsmedia.com/


    Be sure to subscribe to the podcast at: https://www.digitalmarketer.com/podcast/

    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/digitalmarketer

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/digitalmarketer/

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/digital-marketer/


    This Month's Sponsors:

    • Conversion Fanatics - Conversion Rate Optimization Agency
    • Get 50% Off Monthly Blog Writing Service - BKA Content

    More Resources from Scalable

    • [Free Guide & Assessment] 7 Levels of Scale
    • FREE EPIC Challenge

    More Shows You'll Love

    • Perpetual Traffic - The #1 podcast for learning paid traffic and improving your conversions!
    • Business Lunch - Sit down every week with some of the most successful people in the world. Hosted by Roland Frasier and Ryan Deiss

    Mentioned in this episode:

    Become A Certified E-Commerce Marketing Master

    Take the Industry's Most Comprehensive E-Commerce Marketing Certification for the Modern Marketer!

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    How to Create Personalized Emails at Scale using ChatGPT with Carlos and Tobias Noyes Dec 19, 2023
    Show notes

    How can you leverage AI to increase your email open rates? How about asking ChatGPT to curate a personalized email?


    All you need is a website and an email address and you're good to go. But can you do it at scale though?


    Brothers Carlos and Tobias Moyes have combined their coding and marketing experience to bring us ways to offer personalized products at scale.


    By scraping website and social media data, they can refine their ChatGPT prompts to create customized emails and subject lines, leading to an increase in email open rates by up to 50%.


    Mention of the word 'scraping' conjures up ideas of the dark arts of marketing and how companies are using our personal data to target consumers unknowingly.


    Today's episode explores that idea, arguing that our internet data has been ranked and organized using AI since the dawn of time anyway.


    As we get more hands-on with ChatGPT and its prompts, learning to embrace the disruption rather than ignore it (just like Carlos and Tobias did), there are increasingly more effective ways to engage with potential new clients that demonstrate that you're prepared to lead with a touch of personalization.


    Tune in to know how to amplify this so that you're sending out 10,000 emails and not just a few hundred.


    Their savvy approach to scaling one's marketing outreach using the tools of AI available to us all already is great food for thought as we appreciate the simple and approachable method of refined prompt engineering with a clear purpose.


    Key Takeaways:

    02:13 Offering personalized products at scale

    03:53 Deciding to be a part of ChatGPT's early disruption

    06:19 The Beauty of Personalization at Scale

    07:32 What is 'scraping'? How is AI using it?

    09:18 Understanding the approach to working with clients

    12:15 What you put in is what you get out: maximizing ChatGPT

    15:18 Is there a follow-up approach to the cold emails?

    18:50 Using LinkedIn instead of websites for client outreach

    21:48 How does scraping prevention work?

    24:23 The efficacy of using AI to increase your email open rate by 50%


    Connect with Carlos Noyes, PhD:

    LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/carlos-noyes/


    Connect with Tobias Noyes:

    LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/tobias-noyes/


    Be sure to subscribe to the podcast at: https://www.digitalmarketer.com/podcast/

    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/digitalmarketer

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/digitalmarketer/

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/digital-marketer/


    This Month's Sponsors:

    • Conversion Fanatics - Conversion Rate Optimization Agency
    • Get 50% Off Monthly Blog Writing Service - BKA Content

    More Resources from Scalable

    • [Free Guide & Assessment] 7 Levels of Scale
    • FREE EPIC Challenge

    More Shows You'll Love

    • Perpetual Traffic - The #1 podcast for learning paid traffic and improving your conversions!
    • Business Lunch - Sit down every week with some of the most successful people in the world. Hosted by Roland Frasier and Ryan Deiss

    Mentioned in this episode:

    Become A Certified E-Commerce Marketing Master

    Take the Industry's Most Comprehensive E-Commerce Marketing Certification for the Modern Marketer!

    Ecom Cert


    How to Successfully Close on your Follow Up Calls with Gabriel Vangelatos Dec 14, 2023
    Show notes

    As a digital marketer, agency, or solopreneur, how do you follow up on sales? With the rise of AI and how we seem to be automating just about everything, the personal connection we have to our clients is almost all we have left.


    Having a people-focused, authentic approach to a client starts with an appreciation of where they are at in their sales journey.


    Statistically, 95% of converted leads are only reached by the sixth call attempt. So there's plenty of time to provide a potential client with the right information to help them make their decision.


    Gabriel Vangelatos is the Founder of Before The Rise Inc., an agency owner who is very involved in the DigitalMarketer community and someone who understands that not everyone can be sold at the way someone is trying to sell to you something at that time.


    Some clients need to lead in their research, while others need to be presented with a chocolate foot (so that you can get your metaphorical foot in the door!) to break the ice and close the follow-up sales call.


    Today's informative chat centers around just how you should approach the follow-up - from text messages to video calls, and from CRM software to the common mistakes agencies make when trying to close a sale too soon.


    Learn why you need to make extra calls, what it can do for your business, and just how to get your chocolate foot in the door as we keep the Lifetime Value of our Customers in mind. Please join us.


    Gabriel Vangelatos is the Founder of Before The Rise Inc., providing cutting-edge solutions to increase your sales by more than 40% in just 3 months. Find out more at https://beforetheriseinc.com/


    Key Takeaways:

    01:50 How was Gabriel able to focus on follow-up opportunities?

    05:22 Appreciating your customer's 'learning journey' and not pushing the sale too soon

    08:06 Believing in your product before you sell it

    10:58 Weekly drip? Phone Calls? The chocolate foot? What's Gabriel's preferred follow-up method?

    14:18 Are there better clients than others relative to how long they take to sign?

    16:25 Using CRM and your contact lists for maintaining client contact

    18:30 How to use a video message effectively when reaching out to a client

    21:06 What to do when you make a mistake with a client follow-up


    Connect with Gabriel Vangelatos:

    Website - Before The Rise Inc - https://beforetheriseinc.com/

    LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/gabev316/


    Be sure to subscribe to the podcast at: https://www.digitalmarketer.com/podcast/

    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/digitalmarketer

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/digitalmarketer/

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/digital-marketer/


    This Month's Sponsors:

    • Conversion Fanatics - Conversion Rate Optimization Agency
    • Get 50% Off Monthly Blog Writing Service - BKA Content

    More Resources from Scalable

    • [Free Guide & Assessment] 7 Levels of Scale
    • FREE EPIC Challenge

    More Shows You'll Love

    • Perpetual Traffic - The #1 podcast for learning paid traffic and improving your conversions!
    • Business Lunch - Sit down every week with some of the most successful people in the world. Hosted by Roland Frasier and Ryan Deiss

    Mentioned in this episode:

    Become A Certified E-Commerce Marketing Master

    Take the Industry's Most Comprehensive E-Commerce Marketing Certification for the Modern Marketer!

    Ecom Cert


    Decoding Pay Per Click for Local Businesses with Justin Rondeau Dec 12, 2023
    Show notes

    Who is Pay Per Click (PPC) good for? As a marketing agency, should you be offering PPC as a service?

    Justin Rondeau is the Co-Owner and President of InvisiblePPC, offering done-for-you Google PPC ads for marketing agencies. He’s here today to help us evaluate who the best client candidate for local PPC is.


    This starts with the customer journey and appreciating where they are at in their decision-making process when they’re searching for a link. If it’s a plumbing emergency, they’re probably going to click on the top link with the closest plumber, right?


    But what about other industries? How easy is it to offer local PPC ads in different niches? What are the client expectations and is it worth creating PPC client offers to get a foot in the door?


    When it comes to local businesses, there’s not much wiggle room budget-wise to learn on the job. Picking a lane and niching down so that you can speak to your client’s pain points is recommended.


    So too is speaking in ranges, not specifics. If a client hears that a lead might cost $50 for a job that is easy for you to set up, they’ll likely hold you to that.


    Today’s episode is a lesson in managing client expectations and learning which cards as a marketer to keep close to your chest. Twenty new clients that take you up on a $500 PPC campaign might sound like a good idea to get new business - but is it really?


    There’s a way easier option. Learn how to get more leads and sales for your clients with white-label PPC services in over 60+ proven turnkey industries.


    Key Takeaways:

    02:05 Do you have an audience channel match for where you are advertising?

    04:20 What state is the searcher in when they’re about to click on your link?

    05:54 Why organic search should be top of the funnel

    07:07 What are the best candidates for PPC locally?

    09:40 Having a vast array of different offers (to start a bigger conversation)

    11:29 What should you avoid with PPC?

    13:33 Should you niche down as a PPC agency?

    17:40 Why Justin only works with local businesses

    19:10 What is the best way to get started as a marketer with a PPC offer?

    22:08 What expectations are you setting with a new PPC client?

    23:33 Working with your client on their pain points

    27:34 Why there’s no room to ‘fail on the job’ when working with local businesses


    Connect with Justin Rondeau:

    Website - https://invisibleppc.com/

    PPC Reveal - https://ppcreveal.ai/

    LinkedIn - Justin Rondeau | LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/jtrondeau/


    Be sure to subscribe to the podcast at: https://www.digitalmarketer.com/podcast/

    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/digitalmarketer

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/digitalmarketer/

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    AI's Role in Redefining Virtual Assistant Value with Jen Lehner Dec 05, 2023
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    How can AI be used to enhance the use of Virtual Assistants? Can it be used instead of them?

    There's no better feeling than when something that you used to do, and used to take you a bunch of time, just happens and it's better than you would've done it in the first place.


    That's the satisfying feeling you get as a business owner when a VA you know and trust inputs the right data into AI. But is this dream scenario all that realistic?


    Jen Lehner is the CEO of Front Row CEO Virtual Staffing, and she's here to tell us that, absolutely, AI has helped improve the world of Virtual Assistants – making them even more valuable to you and your business.


    With all this information overwhelming, it's no longer enough to show your client the latest shiny thing - everyone's doing that. As a business owner, you need to bring a touch of humaneness back to your client engagement. And you can do that by freeing up your time.


    Learn why we need the help of a team that we are prepared to invest in and not see as an expense. Hear Jen's great advice on giving your VAs a trial week to separate out the ones that have used AI to apply for the job and those that know what they are doing.


    You should be doing the things only you can do. With the right combination of a Virtual Assistant and the latest AI software, all you need is patience and the right prompts, and soon you'll be experiencing that satisfying feeling of a job well done (that you had hardly anything to do with) a lot more often! Please join us.


    Jen Lehner is the CEO of Front Row CEO Virtual Staffing, who has helped match thousands of solopreneurs to their perfect match virtual assistants. To find out more about her secret cheat codes visit CEOvirtualstaffing.com


    Key Takeaways:

    01:18 Is AI disrupting the world of Virtual Assistants?

    02:41 Using AI to crunch your consumer feedback data

    05:53 How AI can instill confidence in your VA

    07:20 PlayHT to generate your voice using AI

    11:19 Using AI to create a consistent brand voice

    11:55 Has AI made VAs even more valuable?

    13:43 Why it's no longer enough to give your audience the latest thing

    15:55 What do you do with your free time once you've delegated work to your VA?

    19:52 Learning to shift your mindset on what you can train other people to do

    25:27 Check out CEOsecrettraining.com

    26:13 Having the right mindset: investment versus expense

    28:39 How AI has democratized information (and made people even more valuable)

    32:50 Using Trello to trial a new employee (trial week!)

    37:45 Creating lasting relationships with your VA

    38:55 Check out CEOvirtualstaffing.com


    Resources:

    Generate AI Voices - PlayHT - https://play.ht/


    Connect with Jen Lehner:

    Website - https://www.ceovirtualstaffing.com/

    Instagram - Jennifer Lehner (Biz Builder) (@jen_lehner) • Instagram photos and videos - https://www.instagram.com/jen_lehner/


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