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The AI Native Dev – from Copilot today to AI Native Software Development tomorrow

Welcome to The AI Native Developer, hosted by Guy Podjarny and Simon Maple. Join us as we explore and help shape the future of software development through the lens of AI. In this new paradigm of AI Native Software Development, we delve into how AI is transforming the way we build software, from tools and practices to the very structure of development teams.

Our target audience includes developers and development leaders eager to stay ahead of the curve. If you’re passionate about the future of software development and curious about how to leverage AI to build effective teams and groundbreaking software, this podcast is for you.

Each week, we bring you insights into the latest AI tools and best practices, keeping you up-to-date with the cutting-edge advancements in the industry. Additionally, every two weeks, we present deep dives with experts and leaders in the AI and software development space, offering a glimpse into the future of AI development.

Tune in to discover how AI will revolutionize your workflows, roles, and organizations. Get inspired by the latest tools and best practices, and prepare to be part of the next generation of software development.

Latest Episodes:

What Developers Can Build Next With AI Nov 12, 2025

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In this compilation, Simon Maple brings together Baruch Sadogursky (TuxCare), Liran Tal (Snyk), Alex Gavrilescu (Greentube), and Josh Long (Broadcom) to break down where AI-assisted development fails, and what teams must do to keep it reliable.
On the docket:
• why spec-compiled tests must come before letting AI generate code
• the uncertainty around what “AI security engineering” actually means today
• how Backlog.md stays minimal so agents can split work autonomously
• how Spring shows AI plugging straight into the business logic companies already run on Spring microservices
Register now to AI Native DevCon
Connect with us here:
Baruch Sadogursky- https://www.linkedin.com/in/jbaruch/
Liran Tal- https://www.linkedin.com/in/talliran/
Alex Gavrilescu- https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexandrugavrilescu/
Josh Long- https://www.linkedin.com/in/joshlong/
Simon Maple - https://www.linkedin.com/in/simonmaple/
Tessl - https://www.linkedin.com/company/tesslio/

Claude, TypingMind, AMP & MCP Servers: The Future Dev Nov 03, 2025

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How do you give an agent the same visibility a human developer has, without giving it full control?
Alan Pope, Senior Developer Advocate at Tessl, explains how Model Context Protocols (MCPs) give AI agents structured access to dev environments, enabling tools like Claude Code and TypingMind to read, build, and execute safely under human oversight.
On the docket:
• how MCPs enable hybrid collaboration, letting agents take controlled actions inside local environments while surfacing every change for review
• the era of “vibe coding” is fading, with developers moving towards intentional, spec-driven prompting for precise results
• outdated or abandoned MCPs are turning into hidden liabilities
• how developers are uploading personal knowledge bases to let AI generate content that matches their authentic tone and style
AI Native Dev, powered by Tessl and our global dev community, is your go-to podcast for solutions in software development in the age of AI. Tune in as we engage with engineers, founders, and open-source innovators to talk all things AI, security, and development.
Register now to AI Native DevCon - ainativedev.io/devcon
Connect with us here:
1. Alan Pope- https://www.linkedin.com/in/alan-pope-uk/
2. Simon Maple- https://www.linkedin.com/in/simonmaple/
3. Tessl- https://www.linkedin.com/company/tesslio/

AI Agents Beyond Context Limits | Maksim Shaposhnikov Oct 28, 2025

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Bots follow scripts. Assistants wait for your commands. Agents act autonomously.
Maksim Shaposhnikov, AI Research Engineer at Tessl, joins Simon Maple to unpack the capabilities of AI coding agents, including how developers can test and trust the code they generate.
On the docket:
• how sub-agents operate independently, maintaining their own context windows to handle complex tasks without overloading the main agent.
• why human-in-the-loop oversight is still essential, even as agents can autonomously generate prototypes and fix bugs.
• predictions for the next generation of agents, including self-correcting feedback loops and improved code quality over time.
Register now to AI Native DevCon - ainativedev.io/devcon
Connect with us here:
1. Maksim Shaposhnikov - https://www.linkedin.com/in/maxshapp/
2. Simon Maple - https://www.linkedin.com/in/simonmaple/
3. Tessl - https://www.linkedin.com/company/tesslio/

Instant PR Feedback Without leaving GitHub | Merrill Lutsky on Graphite Oct 21, 2025

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As AI outpaces human review, latency compounds.
On AI Native Dev, Graphite co-founder and CEO, Merrill Lutsky joins Guy Podjarny to explore how stack aware reviews remove friction and accelerate AI-native development.
They also get into:
• how Graphite’s architecture ensures traceability across AI generated commits
• what engineering velocity means when code quality depends on alignment
• why the next generation of developers will act more like managers of autonomous dev teams than individual contributors
AI Native Dev, powered by Tessl and our global dev community, is your go-to podcast for solutions in software development in the age of AI. Tune in as we engage with engineers, founders, and open-source innovators to talk all things AI, security, and development.
Register now to AI Native DevCon - ainativedev.io/devcon
Connect with us here:
1. Merrill Lutsky- https://www.linkedin.com/in/merrill-lutsky/
2. Guy Podjarny- https://www.linkedin.com/in/guypo/
3. Tessl- https://www.linkedin.com/company/tesslio/
4. AI Native Dev- https://www.linkedin.com/showcase/ai-native-dev/

AI-First Project Management for Developers | Alex Gavrilescu on Backlog.md Oct 14, 2025

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Even the smartest AI agent starts as a blank slate.
Alexandru Gavrilescu, creator of Backlog.md, and Simon Maple explore how to give AI the right context and specifications so it can deliver like a human teammate, and sometimes faster.
On the docket:
• why humans still matter for review, but AI can accelerate work beyond traditional sprints
• the rise of persistent agents that proactively manage tasks and subagents
• preparing for a world of disposable, single-use software and continuous development loops
• why current Agile metrics and bandwidth estimates need a major rethink
AI Native Dev, powered by Tessl and our global dev community, is your go-to podcast for solutions in software development in the age of AI. Tune in as we engage with engineers, founders, and open-source innovators to talk all things AI, security, and development.
Connect with us here:
1. Alexandru Gavrilescu- https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexandrugavrilescu/
2. Simon Maple- https://www.linkedin.com/in/simonmaple/
3. Tessl- https://www.linkedin.com/company/tesslio/

Redefining Developer Workflows in the AI Era with MCP | Steve Manuel Oct 07, 2025

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The risk of letting AI do more than autocomplete? It can quickly spin out of control.
On this episode of AI Native Dev, Steve Manuel, founder and CEO of Dylibso, unpacks MCP, the protocol that keeps AI extensions safe and predictable, and dives into mcp.run, his framework for tapping into shared MCP servers without losing control.
With Simon Maple he shares:
• why plugin-safe AI might be the most significant shift in developer tooling this decade
• how mcp.run isolates compute to prevent AI-driven code from being unpredictable, letting developers experiment without risk
• the practical and surprising ways web-connected agents expand what applications can do, from automating workflows to integrating new capabilities
• why first-party code remains essential even in an AI-native world
Connect with us here:
1. Steve Manuel- https://www.linkedin.com/in/stevemanuel/
2. Simon Maple- https://www.linkedin.com/in/simonmaple/
3. Tessl- https://www.linkedin.com/company/tesslio/

How Slack AI Agents Accelerate Dev Productivity | Samuel Messing Sep 30, 2025

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AI only becomes effective in workflows when it speaks the language of the enterprise.
In this episode of AI Native Dev, Simon Maple sits down with Samuel Messing, VP of Engineering for Search and AI at Slack, to explore how they are tackling one of AI’s toughest challenges: managing enterprise context at scale for 80% of the Fortune 100.
On the docket:
• why understanding context is critical for enterprise AI
• how Slack’s ‘AI Explain’ helps you make sense of information overload
• how to maintain high-quality work when things are changing fast
• why AI can only succeed if compliance and security are built in from the start
AI Native Dev, powered by Tessl and our global dev community, is your go-to podcast for solutions in software development in the age of AI. Tune in as we engage with engineers, founders, and open-source innovators to talk all things AI, security, and development.
Connect with us here:
1. Samuel Messing- https://www.linkedin.com/in/samuel-messing/
2. Simon Maple- https://www.linkedin.com/in/simonmaple/
3. Tessl- https://www.linkedin.com/company/tesslio/

Can Agentic Engineering Really Deliver Enterprise-Grade Code? | Reuven Cohen Sep 23, 2025

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What makes 2025 the “Year of the Agent”?

In this episode of AI Native Dev, Simon Maple joined Reuven Cohen, founder of the Agentics Foundation and creator of Claude Flow, to explore how agentic engineering went from a fringe experiment to a movement reshaping how developers build software.

On the docket:

• what makes “agentic engineering” a new profession, not just a buzzword

• how hive minds and swarms mirror nature’s most efficient systems

• why large companies are “AI-washing” agent tech

• the real tradeoffs between speed, quality, and cost in agent-based dev

• how community-driven foundations are hedging against trillion-dollar corporations

AI Native Dev, powered by Tessl and our global dev community, is your go-to podcast for solutions in software development in the age of AI. Tune in as we engage with engineers, founders, and open-source innovators to talk all things AI, security, and development.

Connect with us here:

1. Reuven Cohen - https://www.linkedin.com/in/reuvencohen

2. Simon Maple - https://www.linkedin.com/in/simonmaple/

3. Tessl- https://www.linkedin.com/company/tesslio/

4. AI Native Dev- https://www.linkedin.com/showcase/ai-native-dev/

Revolutionising Spec-Driven Development with Tessl’s Framework & Registry Sep 16, 2025

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Devs spend more time fixing agent mistakes than shipping features.
On this episode of AI Native Dev, Guy Podjarny, founder & CEO at Tessl, and Simon Maple, Head of Developer Relations, announce two new products, the Tessl Framework and the Tessl Spec Registry, built to make specs the source of truth, keeping agents aligned with intent and code dependable.
On the docket:
• Why agent development needs its own dependency system
• Using specs to create tests that validate agent outputs
• How Tessl’s 10,000 usage specs prevent agent mistakes with open-source
• Into Tessl’s concept of “vibe speccing”
• The long term bet on spec-centric software
AI Native Dev, powered by Tessl and our global dev community, is your go-to podcast for solutions in software development in the age of AI. Tune in as we engage with engineers, founders, and open-source innovators to talk all things AI, security, and development.
Connect with us here:
1. Guy Podjarny- https://www.linkedin.com/in/guypo/
2. Simon Maple- https://www.linkedin.com/in/simonmaple/
3. Tessl- https://www.linkedin.com/company/tesslio/
4. AI Native Dev- https://www.linkedin.com/showcase/ai-native-dev/
Join our AI Native Dev Community: https://discord.com/invite/jbb2vHnHZQ?utm_source=footer&utm_medium=tessl+website&utm_campaign=community

The Man Behind World’s Largest Dev Con | Stephan & Devoxx Sep 09, 2025

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Stephan Janssen, the mind behind Devoxx, calls this moment the “renaissance of development” and explains why AI-native workflows are rewriting what’s possible. On the docket:
• how vibe coding cut months of setup and build into days
• why “spec to code” loops beat pure prompting every time
• what juniors gain from a universal AI tutor
• why agents are the big theme for Devoxx Belgium 2025 AI Native Dev,
AI Native Dev, powered by Tessl and our global dev community, is your go-to podcast for solutions in software development in the age of AI. Tune in as we engage with engineers, founders, and open-source innovators to talk all things AI, security, and development.
Connect with us here:
1. Stephan Janssen - https://www.linkedin.com/in/stephanjanssen/
2. Simon Maple - https://www.linkedin.com/in/simonmaple/
3. Tessl- https://www.linkedin.com/company/tesslio/
4. AI Native Dev- https://www.linkedin.com/showcase/ai-native-dev/

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