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    Alternative Health

    The ABMP Podcast | Speaking With the Massage & Bodywork Profession

    Our goal is to speak with luminaries and experts in and around massage and bodywork to help expound upon and better understand our profession and our practices.

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    Ep 487 – Adrenaline, Cortisol & Connective Tissue: "The Rebel MT" with Allison Denney Feb 18, 2025
    Show notes

    We know it. We can feel it. But understanding the science behind how adrenaline and cortisol affect our soft tissue health is like watching a superhero movie. Kind of.

    In this episode, join Allison as she unpacks her favorite anatomical system and how it plays a role not only in our clients' soft tissue health, but also how we approach them.

    Host Bio:

    Contact Allison Denney: rebelmt@abmp.com

    Allison's website: www.rebelmassage.com

    Allison Denney is a certified massage therapist and certified YouTuber. You can find her massage tutorials at YouTube.com/RebelMassage. She is also passionate about creating products that are kind, simple, and productive for therapists to use in their practices. Her products, along with access to her blog and CE opportunities, can be found at rebelmassage.com.

    About our Sponsors:

    Anatomy Trains: www.anatomytrains.com

    Rebel Massage Therapist: http://www.rebelmassage.com

    Anatomy Trains is a global leader in online anatomy education and also provides in-classroom certification programs for structural integration in the US, Canada, Australia, Europe, Japan, and China, as well as fresh-tissue cadaver dissection labs and weekend courses. The work of Anatomy Trains originated with founder Tom Myers, who mapped the human body into 13 myofascial meridians in his original book, currently in its fourth edition and translated into 12 languages. The principles of Anatomy Trains are used by osteopaths, physical therapists, bodyworkers, massage therapists, personal trainers, yoga, Pilates, Gyrotonics, and other body-minded manual therapists and movement professionals. Anatomy Trains inspires these practitioners to work with holistic anatomy in treating system-wide patterns to provide improved client outcomes in terms of structure and function.

    Website: anatomytrains.com

    Email: info@anatomytrains.com

    Facebook: facebook.com/AnatomyTrains

    Instagram: www.instagram.com/anatomytrainsofficial

    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2g6TOEFrX4b-CigknssKHA

    Rebel Massage Therapist:

    My name is Allison. And I am not your typical massage therapist. After 20 years of experience and thousands of clients, I have learned that massage therapy is SO MUCH more than a relaxing experience at a spa. I see soft tissue as more than merely a physical element but a deeply complex, neurologically driven part of who you are. I use this knowledge to work WITH you—not ON you—to create change that works. This is the basis of my approach. As a massage therapist, I have worked in almost every capacity, including massage clinics, physical therapy clinics, chiropractor offices, spas, private practice, and teaching. I have learned incredible techniques and strategies from each of my experiences. In my 20 years as a massage therapist, I have never stopped growing. I currently have a private practice based out of Long Beach, California, where I also teach continuing education classes and occasionally work on my kids. If they're good.

    website: www.rebelmassage.com

    FB: facebook.com/RebelMassage

    IG: instagram.com/rebelmassagetherapist

    YouTube: youtube.com/c/RebelMassage

    email: rebelmassagetherapist@gmail.com


    Ep 486 – Organizing Business Financial Accounts: "Business or Pressure" with Allissa Haines Feb 14, 2025
    Show notes

    What kinds of account do I need in my small business? We go beyond the usual "checking and savings" to determine what serves you well now and in the future.

    Resources:

    Meg Donnelly owner of NoVA Weekend Warriors in Herndon, VA, https://novaweekendwarriors.com

    Self Employment tax calculator https://www.nerdwallet.com/article/taxes/self-employment-tax (calculates federal tax only)

    The Basic Facts About Women in Poverty https://www.americanprogress.org/article/basic-facts-women-poverty/

    Host:

    Allissa Haines is a practicing massage therapist and business owner and columnist for Massage & Bodywork magazine. You can find her building a community of massage therapists at deepbreathdigital.com/community.

    Author links:

    Website: www.deepbreathdigital.com/community


    Ep 485 – Beyond Gate Control Theory with Jason Erickson Feb 11, 2025
    Show notes

    In this episode of The ABMP Podcast, Darren and Kristin are joined by Jason Erickson to explore Gate Control Theory and Dermoneuromodulation, two key concepts in pain science and nervous system regulation. Join us as we break down these fascinating mechanisms and their impact on health, therapy, and pain management!

    Resources:

    Jason Erickson, BCTMB, CPT, co-owns and practices at Eagan Massage Center. A former chronic pain patient, Jason is an internationally recognized continuing education provider teaching classes on pain science, dermoneuromodulation, sports massage, research literacy and more. His articles and podcast appearances are widely featured.

    For current information on his CE classes, as well as links talked about in this podcast, visit healthartes.com.

    Hosts:

    Darren Buford is senior director of communications and editor-in-chief for ABMP. He is editor of Massage & Bodywork magazine and has worked for ABMP for 22 years, and been involved in journalism at the association, trade, and consumer levels for 24 years. He has served as board member and president of the Western Publishing Association, as well as board member for Association Media & Publishing. Contact him at editor@abmp.com.

    Kristin Coverly, LMT is a massage therapist, educator, and the director of professional education at ABMP. She loves creating continuing education courses, events, and resources to support massage therapists and bodyworkers as they enhance their lives and practices. Contact her at ce@abmp.com.

    Sponsors:

    Anatomy Trains: www.anatomytrains.com

    American Massage Conference:

    https://www.massagetherapymedia.com/conferences

    Anatomy Trains is a global leader in online anatomy education and also provides in-classroom certification programs for structural integration in the US, Canada, Australia, Europe, Japan, and China, as well as fresh-tissue cadaver dissection labs and weekend courses. The work of Anatomy Trains originated with founder Tom Myers, who mapped the human body into 13 myofascial meridians in his original book, currently in its fourth edition and translated into 12 languages. The principles of Anatomy Trains are used by osteopaths, physical therapists, bodyworkers, massage therapists, personal trainers, yoga, Pilates, Gyrotonics, and other body-minded manual therapists and movement professionals. Anatomy Trains inspires these practitioners to work with holistic anatomy in treating system-wide patterns to provide improved client outcomes in terms of structure and function.

    Website: anatomytrains.com

    Email: info@anatomytrains.com

    Facebook: facebook.com/AnatomyTrains

    Instagram: www.instagram.com/anatomytrainsofficial

    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2g6TOEFrX4b-CigknssKHA

    American Massage Conference

    Get ready to immerse yourself in the excitement as the American Massage Conference (AMC) arrives to Disney Springs near Orlando, Florida (May 16th-18th, 2025)! With a legacy of 17 successful years in Ontario, Canada, this premier event, proudly hosted by ONE Concept Conferences and expertly produced by Massage Therapy Media (MTM), boasts a lineup of presenters from across the nation and around the globe.

    The American Massage Conference began in Atlanta in 2011 and has been hosted through the years in San Diego, Chicago, and Virginia Beach.

    The conference provides educational opportunities with engaging one-, two-, three- and four-hour class formats, networking opportunities, masterminds, MTM Talks, demonstrations, and an extensive exhibitor tradeshow.

    Mark your calendars for an unforgettable experience filled with education, networking, and the celebration of massage therapy excellence! ABMP members receive a special discount to attend this in-person conference—log in to your ABMP account to access the discount code and register today.

    Website: https://www.massagetherapymedia.com/conferences


    Ep 484 – Exploring Cash Flow in Your Massage Business: "Business or Pressure" with Allissa Haines Jan 31, 2025
    Show notes

    Money moves in and out of your business, are you tracking it? Allissa walks through the what and how of cash flow, and how to get a grip on it.

    Resources:

    Tara Eidse, Terra Massage & Wellness https://terrawellnessaz.com/

    Host:

    Allissa Haines is a practicing massage therapist and business owner and columnist for Massage & Bodywork magazine. You can find her building a community of massage therapists at deepbreathdigital.com/community.

    Author links:

    Website: www.deepbreathdigital.com/community


    Ep 483 – Language and Teaching: "I Have a Client Who . . ." Pathology Conversations with Ruth Werner Jan 28, 2025
    Show notes

    For nearly 30 years, Rob Kelly has taught anatomy, physiology, pathology, lymphatic work, and orthopedic massage. Recently, Kelly reached out to "I Have a Client Who . . ." host Ruth Werner to share his observations on how easy it is to misunderstand how the body works and how these stories we tell ourselves can have negative consequences.

    Kelly and Werner turned their conversation into an episode about the power of language and the responsibility we have to elevate our profession by using words carefully.

    Host Bio:

    Ruth Werner is a former massage therapist, a writer, and an NCBTMB-approved continuing education provider. She wrote A Massage Therapist's Guide to Pathology, now in its seventh edition, which is used in massage schools worldwide. Werner is also a long-time Massage & Bodywork columnist, most notably of the Pathology Perspectives column. Werner is also ABMP's partner on Pocket Pathology, a web-based app and quick reference program that puts key information for nearly 200 common pathologies at your fingertips. Werner's books are available at www.booksofdiscovery.com. And more information about her is available at www.ruthwerner.com.

    About our Sponsors:

    Anatomy Trains: www.anatomytrains.com

    Anatomy Trains is a global leader in online anatomy education and also provides in-classroom certification programs for structural integration in the US, Canada, Australia, Europe, Japan, and China, as well as fresh-tissue cadaver dissection labs and weekend courses. The work of Anatomy Trains originated with founder Tom Myers, who mapped the human body into 13 myofascial meridians in his original book, currently in its fourth edition and translated into 12 languages. The principles of Anatomy Trains are used by osteopaths, physical therapists, bodyworkers, massage therapists, personal trainers, yoga, Pilates, Gyrotonics, and other body-minded manual therapists and movement professionals. Anatomy Trains inspires these practitioners to work with holistic anatomy in treating system-wide patterns to provide improved client outcomes in terms of structure and function.

    Website: anatomytrains.com

    Email: info@anatomytrains.com

    Facebook: facebook.com/AnatomyTrains

    Instagram: www.instagram.com/anatomytrainsofficial

    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2g6TOEFrX4b-CigknssKHA


    Ep 482 – Rib Out? Where Did It Go?: "The Rebel MT" with Allison Denney Jan 21, 2025
    Show notes

    What exactly happens when a rib goes out? While it's not exactly hitting the club scene in Vegas, what happens is not so different from if it did. In this episode of The ABMP Podcast, host Allison Denney of Rebel Massage explains what is going on when a rib goes out, how to think about costovertebral joints, and the importance of the health history.

    Host Bio:

    Contact Allison Denney: rebelmt@abmp.com

    Allison's website: www.rebelmassage.com

    Allison Denney is a certified massage therapist and certified YouTuber. You can find her massage tutorials at YouTube.com/RebelMassage. She is also passionate about creating products that are kind, simple, and productive for therapists to use in their practices. Her products, along with access to her blog and CE opportunities, can be found at rebelmassage.com.

    About our Sponsors:

    Anatomy Trains: www.anatomytrains.com

    Rebel Massage Therapist: http://www.rebelmassage.com

    Anatomy Trains is a global leader in online anatomy education and also provides in-classroom certification programs for structural integration in the US, Canada, Australia, Europe, Japan, and China, as well as fresh-tissue cadaver dissection labs and weekend courses. The work of Anatomy Trains originated with founder Tom Myers, who mapped the human body into 13 myofascial meridians in his original book, currently in its fourth edition and translated into 12 languages. The principles of Anatomy Trains are used by osteopaths, physical therapists, bodyworkers, massage therapists, personal trainers, yoga, Pilates, Gyrotonics, and other body-minded manual therapists and movement professionals. Anatomy Trains inspires these practitioners to work with holistic anatomy in treating system-wide patterns to provide improved client outcomes in terms of structure and function.

    Website: anatomytrains.com

    Email: info@anatomytrains.com

    Facebook: facebook.com/AnatomyTrains

    Instagram: www.instagram.com/anatomytrainsofficial

    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2g6TOEFrX4b-CigknssKHA

    Rebel Massage Therapist:

    My name is Allison. And I am not your typical massage therapist. After 20 years of experience and thousands of clients, I have learned that massage therapy is SO MUCH more than a relaxing experience at a spa. I see soft tissue as more than merely a physical element but a deeply complex, neurologically driven part of who you are. I use this knowledge to work WITH you—not ON you—to create change that works. This is the basis of my approach. As a massage therapist, I have worked in almost every capacity, including massage clinics, physical therapy clinics, chiropractor offices, spas, private practice, and teaching. I have learned incredible techniques and strategies from each of my experiences. In my 20 years as a massage therapist, I have never stopped growing. I currently have a private practice based out of Long Beach, California, where I also teach continuing education classes and occasionally work on my kids. If they're good.

    website: www.rebelmassage.com

    FB: facebook.com/RebelMassage

    IG: instagram.com/rebelmassagetherapist

    YouTube: youtube.com/c/RebelMassage

    email: rebelmassagetherapist@gmail.com


    Ep 481 – Setting Financial Goals: "Business or Pressure" with Allissa Haines Jan 17, 2025
    Show notes

    Walk through the process to set and achieve a reasonable financial goal for 2025 without the corporate jargon.

    Resources:

    Guest Marcy Basile, massage therapist and chief muscle mover at Connect Bodyworks. Website designer at Blue Setter Creative www.bluesettercreative.com

    Host:

    Allissa Haines is a practicing massage therapist and business owner and columnist for Massage & Bodywork magazine. You can find her building a community of massage therapists at deepbreathdigital.com/community.

    Author links:

    Website: www.deepbreathdigital.com/community


    Ep 480 – Active Engagement Techniques with Whitney Lowe Jan 14, 2025
    Show notes

    Active engagement techniques incorporate active client movement with specific massage treatment applications and can be applied to virtually any region of the body. In this episode of The ABMP Podcast, Whitney Lowe explores some of the key physiological benefits of active engagement and why they have become a powerful tool in manual therapy.

    Host:

    Whitney Lowe is a known authority in the field of massage therapy, with a 36-year career marked by clinical work, research, publications, and teaching in advanced massage principles. He specializes in treating pain and injuries using massage and is one of the pioneers of the orthopedic massage approach. Lowe's Orthopedic Massage Program stands out in its engaging and accessible design and comprehensive curriculum. Students, whether learning online or in-person, praise Lowe for his approachable style and personalized training.

    Sponsors:

    Anatomy Trains: www.anatomytrains.com

    Anatomy Trains is a global leader in online anatomy education and also provides in-classroom certification programs for structural integration in the US, Canada, Australia, Europe, Japan, and China, as well as fresh-tissue cadaver dissection labs and weekend courses. The work of Anatomy Trains originated with founder Tom Myers, who mapped the human body into 13 myofascial meridians in his original book, currently in its fourth edition and translated into 12 languages. The principles of Anatomy Trains are used by osteopaths, physical therapists, bodyworkers, massage therapists, personal trainers, yoga, Pilates, Gyrotonics, and other body-minded manual therapists and movement professionals. Anatomy Trains inspires these practitioners to work with holistic anatomy in treating system-wide patterns to provide improved client outcomes in terms of structure and function.

    Website: anatomytrains.com

    Email: info@anatomytrains.com

    Facebook: facebook.com/AnatomyTrains

    Instagram: www.instagram.com/anatomytrainsofficial

    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2g6TOEFrX4b-CigknssKHA


    Ep 479 – Returning Symptoms with Doug Nelson Jan 07, 2025
    Show notes

    As a massage therapist, few things are more disheartening than hearing a client say their symptoms have returned. How should you approach this situation, and where do you begin? In this episode of The ABMP Podcast, Doug Nelson invites us to explore new perspectives and shares four key reasons he believes are at the heart of recurring symptoms.

    Host:

    Douglas Nelson is Board Certified in Massage Therapy and Therapeutic Bodywork, beginning his career in massage therapy in 1977. Seeing over 1,200 client visits annually for decades, he is also the owner of BodyWork Associates, a massage therapy clinic in Champaign, IL. with 21 therapists that was established in 1982.

    He is the founder of NMT MidWest, Inc., providing training in Precision Neuromuscular Therapy™ across the USA. He has personally taught more than 13,000 hours of continuing education and is the author of three books. Doug is a past president of the Massage Therapy Foundation.

    Sponsors:

    Anatomy Trains: www.anatomytrains.com

    Anatomy Trains is a global leader in online anatomy education and also provides in-classroom certification programs for structural integration in the US, Canada, Australia, Europe, Japan, and China, as well as fresh-tissue cadaver dissection labs and weekend courses. The work of Anatomy Trains originated with founder Tom Myers, who mapped the human body into 13 myofascial meridians in his original book, currently in its fourth edition and translated into 12 languages. The principles of Anatomy Trains are used by osteopaths, physical therapists, bodyworkers, massage therapists, personal trainers, yoga, Pilates, Gyrotonics, and other body-minded manual therapists and movement professionals. Anatomy Trains inspires these practitioners to work with holistic anatomy in treating system-wide patterns to provide improved client outcomes in terms of structure and function.

    Website: anatomytrains.com

    Email: info@anatomytrains.com

    Facebook: facebook.com/AnatomyTrains

    Instagram: www.instagram.com/anatomytrainsofficial

    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2g6TOEFrX4b-CigknssKHA


    Ep 478 – Overcoming Inertia in Your Massage Business: "Business or Pressure" with Allissa Haines Dec 20, 2024
    Show notes

    Inertia in business is powerful. Business or Pressure host Allissa Haines talks through how to embrace change to improve your next year in business.

    Host:

    Allissa Haines is a practicing massage therapist and business owner and columnist for Massage & Bodywork magazine. You can find her building a community of massage therapists at deepbreathdigital.com/community.

    Author links:

    Website: www.deepbreathdigital.com/community

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/deepbreathcommunity/

    Sponsors:

    Jojoba: www.jojobacompany.com

    HobaCare Jojoba is a premium quality, 100% pure jojoba oil that is highly beneficial for massage therapists. As a single-ingredient product, it aligns perfectly with holistic practices, providing an all-natural, chemical-free massage medium option. Jojoba oil closely resembles human sebum, which allows it to absorb easily and deeply into the skin, delivering a non-greasy, moisturizing experience that doesn't clog pores or cause allergic reactions. This unique property makes it an excellent medium for massage, enhancing tactile contact without leaving an oily residue. HobaCare Jojoba is also shelf stable and will not stain natural fiber sheets. By choosing HobaCare Jojoba, massage therapists can enhance their practice, offering clients a superior, skin-friendly experience that promotes both skin health and overall well-being.

    Website: www.hobacare.com

    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jojobacompany

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jojobacompany


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