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    Startup Therapy

    The “No BS” version of how startups are really built, taught by actual startup Founders who have lived through all of it. Hosts Wil Schroter and Ryan Rutan talk candidly about the intense struggles Founders face both personally and professionally as they try to turn their idea into something that will change the world.

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    Latest Episodes:
    Should Startups Be a Family? Jul 28, 2025
    Show notes

    In this episode of the Startup Therapy Podcast, Ryan and Will discuss the challenges and dynamics of blending friendship and professionalism in startups. They delve into the potential pitfalls of treating your startup team like a family, the consequences on both founders and employees, and the importance of setting clear boundaries. They highlight shared experiences from their early careers and emphasize the need for empathy, respect, and a professional approach to lead effectively without compromising authority.

    Resources:
    Startup Therapy Podcast
    https://www.startups.com/community/startup-therapy
    Website
    https://www.startups.com/begin
    LinkedIn
    https://www.linkedin.com/company/startups-co/

    Join our Network of Top Founders
    Wil Schroter
    https://www.linkedin.com/in/wilschroter/
    Ryan Rutan
    https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryan-rutan/

    What to listen for:

    00:08 The Illusion of Startup as a Family

    00:55 Early Career and Peer Dynamics

    01:50 The Reality of Founder-Employee Relationships

    03:46 The Pitfalls of Treating Employees as Family

    05:54 Transparency in Startups: A Double-Edged Sword

    07:13 Shared Risk and Misinterpreted Bonds

    09:32 The Inevitable Strain on Relationships

    12:17 The Limits of Friendship in Startups

    16:18 The Evolution of Team Dynamics

    18:12 A Throwback to Early Company Culture

    18:31 The Impact of a New Hire

    19:19 Cultural Misalignment and Realization

    20:15 Adjusting Company Culture

    21:43 Balancing Professionalism and Empathy

    22:50 The Importance of Boundaries

    24:18 The Dangers of Forced Inclusivity

    28:24 Personal Experiences with Cultural Fit

    32:20 The Family vs. Professional Sports Team Metaphor

    36:42 Final Thoughts on Company Culture



    Can Founders be Replaced by AI? Jul 21, 2025
    Show notes

    Ryan and Will talk about the growing role of AI in startups. They explore how AI is automating traditional founder tasks like writing, coding, and analyzing data. The conversation delves into the existential threat AI poses to the founder's role and how founders can adapt to this new landscape. They argue that founders should embrace AI to focus on creativity, curation, and leadership rather than being bogged down by routine tasks. The episode underscores the importance of evolving with technology to enhance productivity and innovation, ultimately redefining the founder's job description for the future.

    Resources:
    Startup Therapy Podcast
    https://www.startups.com/community/startup-therapy
    Website
    https://www.startups.com/begin
    LinkedIn
    https://www.linkedin.com/company/startups-co/

    Join our Network of Top Founders
    Wil Schroter
    https://www.linkedin.com/in/wilschroter/
    Ryan Rutan
    https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryan-rutan/

    What to listen for:
    00:34 Can AI Replace Founders?
    01:16 The Evolution of AI Capabilities
    02:03 AI's Impact on Copywriting and Creativity
    03:28 AI in Advertising and Idea Generation
    04:44 Embracing AI for Efficiency
    06:31 AI as a Force Multiplier
    09:44 The Future of AI and Founders
    14:36 AI in Coding and Development
    17:08 Leveraging AI for Business Growth
    19:13 Simulating Business Scenarios with AI
    19:38 The Role of AI in Business Decision Making
    19:53 The Timeless Nature of Business Challenges
    20:48 Embracing AI for Efficiency
    21:12 The Unique Human Element in Business
    23:40 The Future of Founders in an AI-Driven World
    25:50 The Evolution of Founders' Roles
    28:05 Leadership and Determination in Business
    30:47 The Importance of Vision and Adaptability


    What if we run out of goals? Jun 30, 2025
    Show notes

    In this episode of the Startup Therapy Podcast, Ryan and Will talk about what happens when you hit all your big goals and realize there might not be any more mountains left to climb. They discuss the complex feelings and identity crises that can emerge when success is achieved, and reflect on how to find new meaning and satisfaction beyond traditional goal-setting. The conversation touches on personal anecdotes, the concept of enjoying the process, and how to appreciate the journey in a fulfilling way.

    Resources:
    Startup Therapy Podcast
    https://www.startups.com/community/startup-therapy
    Website
    https://www.startups.com/begin
    LinkedIn
    https://www.linkedin.com/company/startups-co/

    Join our Network of Top Founders
    Wil Schroter
    https://www.linkedin.com/in/wilschroter/
    Ryan Rutan
    https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryan-rutan/

    What to listen for:
    00:27 The Identity Crisis of Achieving Goals
    01:05 Personal Reflections on Goal Setting
    02:25 The Evolution of Goals Over Time
    04:14 The Reality of Achieving Big Goals
    07:04 The Trap of Sensationalizing Goals
    10:58 The Diminishing Returns of Goal Achievement
    19:06 The Two Paths of Goal Setting: Pleasure vs. Pain
    20:40 Understanding Pain and Relief
    21:42 The Myth of Success Equals Happiness
    22:32 Existential Goals and Realizations
    23:31 The Challenge of Finding Fulfillment
    25:23 Enjoying the Journey vs. The Destination
    29:12 Reevaluating Ambitions and Goals
    33:11 Building for the Sake of Creation
    36:59 Infinite Games and Lifelong Pursuits


    Founders, Reinvention IS your Constant! Jun 23, 2025
    Show notes

    Will and Ryan talk about the fascinating and often overlooked journey of reinventing oneself. Will shares his diverse background, from being an ad guy to becoming a multi-time startup founder, and stresses the importance of embracing various roles to build a comprehensive skill set. The duo emphasizes that becoming a founder isn't a job you get hired for but one you create yourself. They explore how personal and professional reinvention can be the key to success in the startup world, encouraging founders to see themselves as a composite of their varied experiences. The episode is filled with personal anecdotes, practical advice, and an inspiring message: you are not confined to one identity or role — your potential is ever-evolving.

    Resources:
    Startup Therapy Podcast
    https://www.startups.com/community/startup-therapy
    Website
    https://www.startups.com/begin
    LinkedIn
    https://www.linkedin.com/company/startups-co/

    Join our Network of Top Founders
    Wil Schroter
    https://www.linkedin.com/in/wilschroter/
    Ryan Rutan
    https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryan-rutan/

    What to listen for:
    00:43 The Journey to Becoming a Founder
    01:28 Reinventing Yourself as a Founder
    02:31 The Value of Diverse Experiences
    03:55 A Humorous Job List
    08:11 The Role of Exposure in Career Choices
    13:06 Breaking Free from Career Constraints
    19:46 Early Career Hustles
    20:22 Learning from Experience
    20:53 First Sales Job
    21:30 Unexpected Opportunities
    23:22 Reinvention Starts Small
    24:06 Curiosity and Career Growth
    26:14 Building Skills Over Time
    28:04 The Power of Starting Small
    30:10 Embracing Continuous Learning
    32:21 The Value of Diverse Experiences
    39:59 Reinventing Yourself as a Founder


    Founder Isolation is Getting Worse Jun 16, 2025
    Show notes

    Ryan and Will talk about the growing isolation that founders are feeling despite having more ways to connect. They delve into how the shift to remote work, the impact of social media, and the rise of AI have contributed to stripping away the humanity from our daily interactions. They share personal experiences and offer insights into why this sense of loneliness has worsened, and most importantly, explore actionable steps founders can take to reconnect, feel less isolated, and build meaningful relationships in an increasingly digital world.

    Resources:
    Startup Therapy Podcast
    https://www.startups.com/community/startup-therapy
    Website
    https://www.startups.com/begin
    LinkedIn
    https://www.linkedin.com/company/startups-co/

    Join our Network of Top Founders
    Wil Schroter
    https://www.linkedin.com/in/wilschroter/
    Ryan Rutan
    https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryan-rutan/

    What to listen for:
    01:05 The Paradox of Connection and Loneliness
    02:36 Impact of Remote Work on Founders
    16:17 The Role of Social Media in Isolation
    20:49 The Distorted Reality of Social Media
    21:24 The Cynicism Towards Social Media Posts
    22:19 Creating Private Spaces and Personal Connections
    23:15 Declaring Relationship Bankruptcy
    26:53 The Impact of AI on Authenticity
    31:08 The Future of Human Interaction in a Digital World
    35:33 Combating Isolation as Founders


    Forging Founder Confidence Jun 09, 2025
    Show notes

    Ryan and Will discuss the journey of becoming a confident founder. Celebrating their 300th episode, they reflect on how learning to lead and building confidence starts with curiosity. They emphasize asking questions, even seemingly silly ones, to gain knowledge and confidence. Will and Ryan also dive into the importance of challenging oneself incrementally and being willing to make mistakes as key steps in growing confidence. They share personal anecdotes and practical advice, making a case for bravery, perseverance, and learning from failures. Perfect for any founder grappling with self-doubt or seeking actionable steps to boost their confidence.

    Resources:
    Startup Therapy Podcast
    https://www.startups.com/community/startup-therapy
    Website
    https://www.startups.com/begin
    LinkedIn
    https://www.linkedin.com/company/startups-co/

    Join our Network of Top Founders
    Wil Schroter
    https://www.linkedin.com/in/wilschroter/
    Ryan Rutan
    https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryan-rutan/

    What to listen for:
    00:58 Building Confidence Through Practice
    05:25 The Power of Curiosity
    09:25 Asking the Right Questions
    14:58 Taking on New Challenges
    19:03 Building Confidence Through Small Victories
    19:40 Teaching Kids Micro Challenges
    20:09 Challenging Yourself Incrementally
    21:17 The Line Between Ambition and Recklessness
    22:19 Learning Through Incremental Steps
    25:37 The Importance of Being Wrong
    27:41 Building Confidence as a Founder
    31:33 The Role of Bravery in Confidence


    Is College a Waste of Time for Founders? Jun 02, 2025
    Show notes

    In this episode of The Startup Therapy Podcast, Ryan and Will discuss the true value of a college education for aspiring entrepreneurs. They explore whether the traditional path through higher education is the best route for those determined to start their own businesses. With personal anecdotes and economic insights, they argue that college may not always be the ideal path for founders, emphasizing the benefits of real-world experience and early entrepreneurial efforts. They also discuss societal expectations, financial implications, and alternative approaches to gaining the necessary knowledge and skills.

    Resources:
    Startup Therapy Podcast
    https://www.startups.com/community/startup-therapy
    Website
    https://www.startups.com/begin
    LinkedIn
    https://www.linkedin.com/company/startups-co/

    Join our Network of Top Founders
    Wil Schroter
    https://www.linkedin.com/in/wilschroter/
    Ryan Rutan
    https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryan-rutan/

    What to listen for:
    00:17 The Value of a College Degree for Founders
    00:55 Challenging the College Norm
    01:37 A Real-Life Example: Skipping College for Startups
    03:14 Generational Expectations and College
    07:25 The Economics of College Education
    08:04 The Financial Impact of College vs. Investing
    14:19 The Opportunity Cost of College for Founders
    20:21 The Power of Compounding Experiences
    20:35 Learning at Your Own Pace
    20:58 The Irrelevance of Traditional Education
    22:19 Founders Need a Broad Skillset
    22:57 The Limitations of College
    24:33 Alternative Learning Paths
    25:57 The Value of Practical Experience
    27:44 The Diminishing Value of a College Degree
    29:13 Questioning the College Path
    33:30 The Founder Mindset
    40:18 Restarting the Conversation on Education


    Are We Preventing Our Startup From Evolving? May 26, 2025
    Show notes

    The realities of evolving a startup. Ryan and Will discuss how the first idea is rarely the final solution, sharing insights on how to navigate the pivoting process. Using Uber and their own experiences at startups.com as examples, they explore the dangers of clinging to an initial plan and the importance of staying open to change. They also touch on overcoming ego, internalizing market feedback, and avoiding self-sabotage to ultimately achieve a more successful and fulfilling business.

    Resources:
    Startup Therapy Podcast
    https://www.startups.com/community/startup-therapy
    Website
    https://www.startups.com/begin
    LinkedIn
    https://www.linkedin.com/company/startups-co/

    Join our Network of Top Founders
    Wil Schroter
    https://www.linkedin.com/in/wilschroter/
    Ryan Rutan
    https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryan-rutan/

    What to listen for:

    00:51 The Myth of the Perfect Plan
    02:04 The Uber Example: Evolving Business Models
    03:55 The Importance of User Feedback
    04:48 Facing Investor Expectations
    07:44 Ego vs. Agility in Decision Making
    08:47 The Afford It Story: Lessons Learned
    13:21 Conclusion and Final Thoughts
    13:53 The Original Plan and Its Challenges
    14:25 Admitting Mistakes and Moving Forward
    15:10 Evolving as a Founder
    15:58 The Birth of Startups.com
    17:26 Learning from Market Feedback
    20:45 Detaching Ego from the Product
    23:14 The Importance of Adaptation


    Building a Startup That Loves You Back May 19, 2025
    Show notes

    Ryan and Will delve into the complexities of maintaining a healthy relationship with your startup. They discuss their personal experiences and challenges in balancing the demands of a startup with personal well-being. Will shares an incredulous story about a friend enjoying a Tuesday afternoon in the pool, leading to a broader discussion on the importance of setting boundaries and recognizing the signs of burnout. The hosts emphasize the need for self-awareness, prioritizing personal values, and finding joy in the journey, not just the destination. They also touch on the benefits of giving team members autonomy and creating a supportive, non-toxic work culture.

    Resources:
    Startup Therapy Podcast
    https://www.startups.com/community/startup-therapy
    Website
    https://www.startups.com/begin
    LinkedIn
    https://www.linkedin.com/company/startups-co/

    Join our Network of Top Founders
    Wil Schroter
    https://www.linkedin.com/in/wilschroter/
    Ryan Rutan
    https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryan-rutan/

    What to listen for:
    00:32 The Pool Story: A Lesson in Work-Life Balance
    02:08 The Toxic Relationship with Work
    03:11 Startup Therapy: The Podcast's Origin
    08:15 Balancing Work and Family
    13:17 Non-Negotiables and Personal Values
    14:51 Conclusion and Final Thoughts
    15:35 Mitigating Guilt Through Productivity
    17:29 The Elusive Goal of Profit
    19:21 Emotional ROI in Startups
    21:57 Autonomy and Company Culture
    24:50 Balancing Safety and Happiness
    28:26 Avoiding the Trap of Obligations
    29:40 Creating a Non-Abusive Startup Relationship
    30:50 Join the Startups.com Community


    When Our Friends Resent Our Success May 12, 2025
    Show notes

    Ryan and Will discuss the surprising reactions founders often face when they achieve success. They explore how unexpected resentment from friends and peers can arise, why it happens, and how to navigate these tricky social waters. Through personal anecdotes and practical advice, they delve into balancing humility and openness about success while staying true to oneself. Tune in to learn about managing relationships as you climb the ladder and handling the inevitable pushback with grace.

    Resources:
    Startup Therapy Podcast
    https://www.startups.com/community/startup-therapy
    Website
    https://www.startups.com/begin
    LinkedIn
    https://www.linkedin.com/company/startups-co/

    Join our Network of Top Founders
    Wil Schroter
    https://www.linkedin.com/in/wilschroter/
    Ryan Rutan
    https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryan-rutan/

    What to listen for:
    00:31 The Unexpected Reactions to Success
    02:54 Personal Stories of Resentment
    07:57 The Impact of Success on Relationships
    12:32 Social Media and Validation
    14:01 Processing Success and Insecurities
    19:34 Navigating Conversations About Success
    21:04 The Validation Loop Dilemma
    21:21 Caring About Others' Opinions
    21:57 The Spectrum of Self-Presentation
    23:17 The Insecurity Behind Social Media Influencers
    25:34 The Cost of Flaunting Success
    29:04 Extreme Humility and Its Consequences
    32:19 Balancing Humility and Pride
    37:01 The Art of Humble Bragging
    40:39 Avoiding Resentment Through Humility
    41:46 The Power and Responsibility of Success
    42:38 Join the Startups.com Community


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