Second City Works presents "Getting to Yes, And"

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Getting to Yes, And… | Julia Minson: ‘How to Disagree Better’ Mar 24, 2026

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Kelly connects with Julia Minson, a professor at Harvard Kennedy School. She is a behavioral scientist with extensive research experience in conflict, communication, negotiations, and decision-making. She has a new book: “How to Disagree Better.”

https://serve.castfire.com/audio/8054274/8054274_2026-03-24-042214.64kmono.mp3

Second City Works presents “Getting to Yes, And”

Nick Davis – “From Godspell to Second City to Stardom”

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Jeff Cole – ‘Disrupters at the Gate’

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Ron Johnson – The genius who created the Genius Bar

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Roy Schwartz – ‘Simplify’

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Caroline Webb – ‘Leadership Intelligence’

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Getting to Yes, And… | B. Joseph Pine – ‘Transform Your Business and Life’ Mar 17, 2026

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Kelly talks to Joe Pine, an internationally acclaimed author, speaker, and management advisor to Fortune 500 companies and entrepreneurial start-ups alike. He is a co-founder of Strategic Horizons LLP, a thinking studio dedicated to helping businesses conceive and design new ways to add value to their economic offerings. He is the co-author of the best-seller “The Experience Economy,” and his latest book is called “The Transformation Economy: Guiding Customers to Achieve Their Aspirations.”

https://serve.castfire.com/audio/8035980/8035980_2026-03-16-001120.64kmono.mp3

“What people want, in short, is to be transformed.”

“Customization is the antidote to commoditization.”

“Sell the end.”

Second City Works presents “Getting to Yes, And”

Nick Davis – “From Godspell to Second City to Stardom”

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Jeff Cole – ‘Disrupters at the Gate’

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Ron Johnson – The genius who created the Genius Bar

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Roy Schwartz – ‘Simplify’

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Caroline Webb – ‘Leadership Intelligence’

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Getting to Yes, And… | Jane Marie Chen – Designing Self-Compassion Mar 10, 2026

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Kelly spends time with Jane Marie Chen, a globally recognized entrepreneur, inventor, speaker, and leadership coach. She is the co-founder of Embrace, which developed an infant incubator that has helped to save over a million babies. Jane has been a TED fellow and a Young Global Leader of the World Economic Forum. She has a new memoir, “Like a Wave We Break: A Memoir of Falling Apart and Finding Myself.”

https://serve.castfire.com/audio/8022686/8022686_2026-03-09-220426.64kmono.mp3

“This is the story of a wipeout.”

“True leadership, I realized, wasn’t about perfection or invincibility. It was about authenticity.”

“Surviving trauma and confronting its aftermath are two different experiences.”

Second City Works presents “Getting to Yes, And”

Nick Davis – “From Godspell to Second City to Stardom”

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Jeff Cole – ‘Disrupters at the Gate’

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Ron Johnson – The genius who created the Genius Bar

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Roy Schwartz – ‘Simplify’

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Caroline Webb – ‘Leadership Intelligence’

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Getting to Yes, And… | Funny Girls & The Second City – ‘Improv and Leadership for Girls: A New Free Program’ Mar 04, 2026

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Kelly talks to Jenny Raymond from the Harnish Foundation and Julie Dumais Osborne from The Second City Training Center to talk about a new partnership that offers free improv-based leadership training for girls in grades 3 through 8 in Chicago called Funny Girls. The best part: IT’S FREE! For more information or to sign up your school, go here: https://thehf.org/funny-girls/secondcity/

https://serve.castfire.com/audio/8011649/8011649_2026-03-04-183249.64kmono.mp3

“Improv is a warm hug for girls.”

“Improv teaches girls that there’s no right or wrong, fostering a sense of confidence and belonging.”

“By using improv, we’re helping girls discover their voices and build the confidence they need to lead.”

Second City Works presents “Getting to Yes, And”

Nick Davis – “From Godspell to Second City to Stardom”

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Jeff Cole – ‘Disrupters at the Gate’

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Ron Johnson – The genius who created the Genius Bar

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Roy Schwartz – ‘Simplify’

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Caroline Webb – ‘Leadership Intelligence’

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Getting to Yes, And… | Bob Johansen – ‘Navigating the Age of Chaos’ Mar 03, 2026

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Kelly welcomes futurist Bob Johansen back to the podcast to discuss his book “Navigating the Age of Chaos.” Bob introduces us to the term BANI, which describes the world we live in now: Brittle, Anxious, Nonlinear, and Incomprehensible. Spoiler alert – improvisation is a skill one needs to navigate this world.

https://serve.castfire.com/audio/8006575/8006575_2026-03-03-050615.64kmono.mp3

“In the mid-2010’s, everything started to get a little crazy.”

“Improv allows you to practice in low-risk ways for nonlinear futures and unpredictable environments.

“The best leaders will be great storytellers.”

Second City Works presents “Getting to Yes, And”

Nick Davis – “From Godspell to Second City to Stardom”

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Jeff Cole – ‘Disrupters at the Gate’

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Ron Johnson – The genius who created the Genius Bar

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Roy Schwartz – ‘Simplify’

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Caroline Webb – ‘Leadership Intelligence’

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Getting to Yes, And… | Leslie John ‘Revealing: The Underrated Power of Oversharing’ Feb 24, 2026

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Kelly talks to Harvard professor Leslie John, whose research into self-disclosure provides a rich source of insights into how we can better build relationships, foster connection, and lead a more purposeful life when we are willing to be vulnerable and share details of our lives with others.

https://serve.castfire.com/audio/7993257/7993257_2026-02-24-030557.64kmono.mp3

“If in doubt, transparency is the safer bet.”

“Today, the illusion of reciprocity thrives on social media.”

“Like most hangovers, the pain of TMI is often short-lived.”

Second City Works presents “Getting to Yes, And”

Nick Davis – “From Godspell to Second City to Stardom”

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Jeff Cole – ‘Disrupters at the Gate’

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Ron Johnson – The genius who created the Genius Bar

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Roy Schwartz – ‘Simplify’

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Caroline Webb – ‘Leadership Intelligence’

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Getting to Yes, And… | Paul Eastwick – ‘The Secrets to Finding True Love’ Feb 17, 2026

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In this engaging conversation, Kelly connects with Paul Eastwick to discuss his new book, ‘Bonded by Evolution,’ exploring misconceptions about love and connection. He critiques the outdated ‘Evo script’ that shapes our understanding of attraction and relationships, emphasizing the impact of modern dating practices. Eastwick highlights the fluidity of attraction, the importance of close relationships, and the science behind breakups and attachment. He advocates for a constructive approach to building relationships, recognizing the role of change and the power of listening and validation in fostering connection.

https://serve.castfire.com/audio/7977783/7977783_2026-02-16-044723.64kmono.mp3

“We like different people for different reasons, which just adds to the chaos of it all.”

“Learning your place in the dating pool can be a brutal process.”

“No one enjoys being stuck in the friendzone.”

Second City Works presents “Getting to Yes, And”

Nick Davis – “From Godspell to Second City to Stardom”

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Jeff Cole – ‘Disrupters at the Gate’

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Ron Johnson – The genius who created the Genius Bar

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Roy Schwartz – ‘Simplify’

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Caroline Webb – ‘Leadership Intelligence’

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Getting to Yes, And… | Kate Murphy – “Why We Click” Feb 12, 2026

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Journalist Kate Murphy has a compelling conversation with Kelly about her new book “Why We Click: The Emerging Science of Interpersonal Synchrony.” In this conversation, Kelly and Kate find a direct line between improvisational training and the kind of synchrony that leads to better relationships, more effective teams and the superpowers that flow from human to human interaction.

https://serve.castfire.com/audio/7971794/7971794_2026-02-12-000734.64kmono.mp3

“Synchrony between humans is nothing short of a superpower.”

“Our interactions with people are what make us most happy and most miserable in life.”

“We are born to sync. We yearn to sync. And we suffer when we do not.”

Getting to Yes, And… | Daniel Coyle – ‘Unlocking Flourishing’ Feb 10, 2026

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In this conversation, Kelly welcomes best-selling author Daniel Coyle back to the podcast. His new book, “Flourish: The Art of Building Meaning, Joy and Fulfillment,” emphasizes the significance of meaningful moments in life, particularly in fostering relationships and collaboration. He discusses how these moments often occur during ritual-like pauses where individuals reflect on their purpose and connection to something greater. This reflection allows for deeper engagement and collaboration among individuals, ultimately leading to more meaningful relationships.

https://serve.castfire.com/audio/7966168/7966168_2026-02-10-021808.64kmono.mp3

“The type of attention we bring to the world changes the world we find.”

“If you can’t say no, your yes is worthless.”

“People mistakenly think life is a treasure hunt. And it is not a treasure hunt. It’s more like a treasure creation.”

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Kelly talks to former Obama White House EPA official Judith Enck, whose new book is called “The Problem with Plastic: How We Can Save Ourselves and Our Planet Before It’s Too Late.”

https://serve.castfire.com/audio/7953733/7953733_2026-02-03-174633.64kmono.mp3

“Don’t microwave food in plastic.”

“Plastics are on track to surpass coal emissions in the United States.”

“Get rid of all black plastic in your kitchen.”