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    Second City Works presents “Getting to Yes, And”

    Second City Works presents “Getting to Yes, And” on WGN Plus from WGN Radio in Chicago.

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    Getting to Yes, And… | Scott Barry Kaufman and Chris Shipley – ‘Leading for Tomorrow’ Aug 04, 2026
    Show notes

    Kelly welcomes frequent guest Scott Barry Kaufman back to the podcast along with Chris Shipley, a journalist, industry analyst and entrepreneur to discuss the new book that they co-edited, “Leading for Tomorrow: Unlocking Human Potential in the Era of Continuous Change and Endless Possibility.”

    https://serve.castfire.com/audio/8558219/8558219_2026-08-03-214619.64kmono.mp3

    “We no longer live through disruptions; we live inside continuous disruption.”

    “In a world of continuous disruption, efficiency alone loses its value.”

    “What matters now is the human capacity to adapt, sense, connect, and create together in real time.”

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    Getting to Yes, And… | Dr. Dana Suskind – ‘Raising Humans in the Age of AI’ Jul 30, 2026
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    Kelly goes online with Dr. Dana Suskind, bestselling author and the founding director of the Pediatric Cochlear Implant Program and professor of Surgery and Pediatrics at the University of Chicago to discuss her remarkable new book, “Human Raised: Nurturing Connection, Curiosity, and Lifelong Learning in the Age of AI.”

    https://serve.castfire.com/audio/8540392/8540392_2026-07-26-224932.64kmono.mp3

    “To be clear, I’m not against technology.”

    “What I fear is that chatbot that never disagrees.”

    “Our children don’t need to out-compute the computers.”

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    Getting to Yes, And… | Nick Epley – ‘A Little More Social’ Jul 28, 2026
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    Kelly welcomes University of Chicago professor Nick Epley back to the podcast to discuss his fantastic new book, “A Little More Social: How Small Choices Create Unexpected Happiness, Health and Connection.”

    https://serve.castfire.com/audio/8540387/8540387_2026-07-26-214327.64kmono.mp3

    “Yes, acting extroverted tends to make people feel more positive.”

    “We fail to recognize the superpower of reciprocity.”

    “Laughing communicates liking.”

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    Getting to Yes, And… | Ron Friedman – ‘Superteams’ Jul 21, 2026
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    Kelly sits down with Ron Friedman, an award-winning psychologist who helps leaders build high-performance teams. He is the bestselling author of “The Best Place to Work” and “Decoding Greatness,” and the founder of Superteams, Inc where he delivers keynotes, workshops, and executive advisory services to senior leaders around the world. He has a new book: “Superteams: The Science and Secrets of High-Performing Teams.”

    https://serve.castfire.com/audio/8523259/8523259_2026-07-20-031159.64kmono.mp3

    “On my team, we follow a single rule: no decision, no meeting.”

    “It helps to make dissent part of the process.”

    “Most of us overestimate how much other’s trust us.”

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    Getting to Yes, And… | Jia Jing – ‘Easy Discipline’ Jul 15, 2026
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    Kelly leans into the discomfort with Jia Jiang, author of “Easy Discipline: An Unconventional Way to Achieve Ambitious Things.” You may have heard of Jia, as his story has been told in numerous books on how to successfully handle adversity through a concept called “Rejection Therapy.” Over 100 days, Jia put himself in a position to get rejected: asking to work behind the counter at a fast-food restaurant or asking a cop to drive a police car. In his new book, he explores how a simple reframe can unlock anyone’s ability to do the thing they love to do.

    https://serve.castfire.com/audio/8517283/8517283_2026-07-15-220323.64kmono.mp3

    “To tell you the truth, I am one of the most undisciplined and flawed people I know.”

    “Love can fuel your work.”

    “You can bully yourself to success, but not to brilliance.”

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    Getting to Yes, And… | Tom Rath – ‘The Superpower of Purpose’ Jul 07, 2026
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    Kelly welcomes author and researcher Tom Rath back to the podcast. At an early age, doctors told Tom he wouldn’t live past forty. As that date came and went, he began examining what it means to live a life well lived. We talk about that and his new book “What’s the Point: Turing Purpose Into Your Daily Superpower.”

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    “Here’s what I know with absolute certainty: you’re wasting most of your day.”

    “Uncertainty has become my greatest teacher.”

    “Meaning is manufactured in the lab of our daily choices.”

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    Getting to Yes, And… | Adam Morgan – ‘The Emotion of Creativity’ Jun 30, 2026
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    Kelly speaks to Adam Morgan, Director of Brand Marketing at Twilio, where he leads global brand strategy for one of the world’s most influential developer-first technology companies. His work focuses on making complex infrastructure brands culturally relevant by blending creativity, clarity, and storytelling at scale. He is the author of “Sorry Spock, Emotions Drive Business.”

    https://serve.castfire.com/audio/8483248/8483248_2026-06-30-102948.64kmono.mp3

    “To me, a safe idea was ineffective.”

    “A creative idea is basically an emotional idea.”

    “The idea that logic is king is saturated into western culture.”

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    Getting to Yes, And… | Dr. Jeremy Levin – “An Ethics Manifesto for Biotech” Jun 22, 2026
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    Kelly sits down with Dr. Jeremy Levin, Executive Chairman and founder of Ovid Therapeutics, a public company focused on medicines for epilepsies and seizure-related brain disorders. He has a fantastic new book titled “Biotech in the Balance: Saving a Strategic Industry in an Age of Distrust.”

    https://serve.castfire.com/audio/8468245/8468245_2026-06-22-155745.64kmono.mp3

    “Misinformation spreads faster than corrections.”

    “Talented people learn that candor carries risk.”

    “Medicines do not exist in spreadsheets.”


    Getting to Yes, And | Fay Bound-Alberti – ‘The Face: A Cultural History’ Jun 16, 2026
    Show notes

    Kelly has a fascinating conversation with King’s College London professor Fay Bound-Alberti about her compelling new book, “The Face: A Cultural History.”

    https://serve.castfire.com/audio/8457518/8457518_2026-06-16-140318.64kmono.mp3

    “The idea that a commoner would have their image captured for posterity was unthinkable.”

    “The average person today takes 450 selfies a year.”

    “Most people in the past didn’t spend as much time looking at themselves or worrying about their faces as we do.”

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    Getting to Yes, And… | Amy Kurtz – ‘Medical Trauma Brain’ Jun 09, 2026
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    Kelly connects with Amy Kurtz, a patient advocate, health coach, and author of the trailblazing book “Kicking Sick: Your Go-To Guide for Thriving with Chronic Health Conditions.” Amy has been featured on Good Morning America, Oprah Daily, The Boston Globe, Fox and New York Magazine. She has a new book, “But You Look Fine: Trapped in the Hell Between Sick and Well and How to Break Free.”

    https://serve.castfire.com/audio/8438745/8438745_2026-06-08-192245.64kmono.mp3

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