Second City Works presents "Getting to Yes, And"

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Getting to Yes, And… | Daryl Davis – ‘The Klan Whisperer’ Jun 02, 2026

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Kelly meets Daryl Davis, a noted musician who is even more widely known for his extraordinary journey seeking out conversations with members of the Ku Klux Klan – a feat made more astonishing when you learn that Daryl is a Black man. In this conversation, we learn why Daryl has made this work his life pursuit.

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“Keep in mind that ignorance breeds fear.”

“Spend more time listening to the other person.”

“Keep your emotions of anger out of the conversation.”

Second City Works presents “Getting to Yes, And”

Nick Davis – “From Godspell to Second City to Stardom”

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Jeff Cole – ‘Disrupters at the Gate’

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Ron Johnson – The genius who created the Genius Bar

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Roy Schwartz – ‘Simplify’

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Caroline Webb – ‘Leadership Intelligence’

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Getting to Yes, And… | Marcus Buckingham – ‘Why Love is the Most Important Word in Business’ May 26, 2026

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Kelly welcomes Marcus Buckingham back to the podcast. For over 25 years, Marcus has been the world’s leading researcher on strengths, engagement, and human performance. He began his career at Gallup and was the co-creator, with Donald O. Clifton, of StrengthsFinder. He is a bestselling author with a brand-new book: “Design Love In: How to Unleash the Most Powerful Force in Business.”

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“There is no such thing as loveless excellence.”

“You cannot love someone you don’t trust.”

“Clarity is power.”

Second City Works presents “Getting to Yes, And”

Nick Davis – “From Godspell to Second City to Stardom”

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Jeff Cole – ‘Disrupters at the Gate’

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Ron Johnson – The genius who created the Genius Bar

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Roy Schwartz – ‘Simplify’

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Caroline Webb – ‘Leadership Intelligence’

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Getting to Yes, And… | Stephanie Weaver – ‘Storytelling and Family Estrangement’ May 19, 2026

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Nearly ten years ago, Kelly got connected with Stephanie Weaver, a speaking coach assigned to him for a TEDx-style talk in Chicago. Now, Stephanie has written a book, “Bitter, Sweet: How to Heal Yourself When Your Family is Broken.” Warning: this episode contains discussion of family sexual abuse. Please listen with care.

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“I help people find their unique story.”

“In 2003, no one was using the term ‘invisible illness.'”

“Survivors are rarely believed.”

Getting to Yes, And… | Daisy Christodoulou – ‘Seven Myths About Education’ May 12, 2026

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Kelly goes across the pond to speak to educator Daisy Christodoulou, whose provocative books on education take aim at a lack of teacher autonomy, fact-based curricula, and the misuse of technology in the classroom.

https://serve.castfire.com/audio/8374358/8374358_2026-05-12-030158.64kmono.mp3

“You cannot unscramble knowledge and skills.”

“Modern technology can’t do the memorizing for us.”

“Good readers are those who tend to know a little bit about a lot.”

Second City Works presents “Getting to Yes, And”

Nick Davis – “From Godspell to Second City to Stardom”

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Jeff Cole – ‘Disrupters at the Gate’

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Ron Johnson – The genius who created the Genius Bar

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Roy Schwartz – ‘Simplify’

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Caroline Webb – ‘Leadership Intelligence’

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Getting to Yes, And… | Benoit Denizet-Lewis – ‘The Promise and Price of Self-Transformation’ May 05, 2026

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Acclaimed journalist Benoit Denizet-Lewis joins Kelly to talk about his new book “You’ve Changed: The Promise and Price of Self-Transformation.”

https://serve.castfire.com/audio/8357761/8357761_2026-05-05-025001.64kmono.mp3

“Any identity is a kind of performance.”

“Humans are broken meaning-making machines.”

“There’s no freedom without the perception of change.”

Second City Works presents “Getting to Yes, And”

Nick Davis – “From Godspell to Second City to Stardom”

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Jeff Cole – ‘Disrupters at the Gate’

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Ron Johnson – The genius who created the Genius Bar

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Roy Schwartz – ‘Simplify’

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Caroline Webb – ‘Leadership Intelligence’

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Getting to Yes, And… | Leidy Klotz – ‘The Power of Places’ Apr 28, 2026

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Kelly welcomes Leidy Klotz back to the podcast, where they last talked about his book, “Subtract: The Untapped Science of Less.” He has a new book, “In a Good Place: How the Spaces Where We Live, Work, and Play Can Help Us Thrive.”

https://serve.castfire.com/audio/8340086/8340086_2026-04-28-150426.64kmono.mp3

“Our inner and outer worlds are inseparable.”

“Many books tell us how to live our lives. This one takes on where.”

“Building together isn’t just part of culture; it may well have been the genesis.”

Second City Works presents “Getting to Yes, And”

Nick Davis – “From Godspell to Second City to Stardom”

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Jeff Cole – ‘Disrupters at the Gate’

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Ron Johnson – The genius who created the Genius Bar

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Roy Schwartz – ‘Simplify’

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Caroline Webb – ‘Leadership Intelligence’

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Getting to Yes, And… | Erik LeDrew – ‘From the Battlefield to the Big Screen’ Apr 21, 2026

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Kelly talks with Erik LeDrew, a photojournalist and US Army veteran who transitioned from the chaos of combat to the chaos of filmmaking. He wrote and co-directed “Alex vs. ARod” for HBO, a fantastic documentary that looks at the life and career of baseball great Alex Rodriguez.

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“Once you do something like join the US military, it kind of follows you everywhere you go.”

“I architect narrative…When I transitioned to the documentary side, it was all about capturing the kinetic energy of the moment.”

“I had to adopt a ‘go through the door that opens’ mentality.”

Second City Works presents “Getting to Yes, And”

Nick Davis – “From Godspell to Second City to Stardom”

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Jeff Cole – ‘Disrupters at the Gate’

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Ron Johnson – The genius who created the Genius Bar

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Roy Schwartz – ‘Simplify’

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Caroline Webb – ‘Leadership Intelligence’

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Getting to Yes, And… | Jake Braun Apr 14, 2026

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Kelly sits down with Jake Braun, who has worked at the intersection of politics, national security, and foreign policy for over two decades and was appointed to prominent roles in the Obama and Biden administrations. He wrote the book “Democracy in Danger,” and he has a new book, “Fentanyl: Fighting the Mass Poisoning of America and the Cartel Behind It.”

https://serve.castfire.com/audio/8242697/8242697_2026-04-14-034737.64kmono.mp3

Second City Works presents “Getting to Yes, And”

Nick Davis – “From Godspell to Second City to Stardom”

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Jeff Cole – ‘Disrupters at the Gate’

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Ron Johnson – The genius who created the Genius Bar

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Roy Schwartz – ‘Simplify’

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Caroline Webb – ‘Leadership Intelligence’

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Getting to Yes, And… | Dr. Khameer Kidia – ‘Empire of Madness’ Apr 07, 2026

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Kelly connects with Dr. Khameer Kidia, a writer, physician, and anthropologist at Harvard Medical School and University of Zimbabwe. A Rhodes Scholar and 2023 New American Fellow, Dr. Kidia has worked on global mental health research practice, and advocacy for the last decade. He has a new book, “Empire of Madness: A Physician’s Case for Reimagining Global Mental Health.”

https://serve.castfire.com/audio/8080652/8080652_2026-04-07-030852.64kmono.mp3

Second City Works presents “Getting to Yes, And”

Nick Davis – “From Godspell to Second City to Stardom”

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Jeff Cole – ‘Disrupters at the Gate’

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Ron Johnson – The genius who created the Genius Bar

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Roy Schwartz – ‘Simplify’

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Caroline Webb – ‘Leadership Intelligence’

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Getting to Yes, And… | Erin McGoff – ‘The Secret Language of Work’ Mar 31, 2026

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Kelly speaks with Erin McGoff, an award-winning filmmaker and content creator – known as the “internet’s big sister” through her AdviceWithErin branding. She received a Pulitzer Fellowship in 2017 and was named a Forbes 30 under 30 recipient in 2025. She has a new book: “The Secret Language of Work: Hyper-Helpful Scripts for Every Situation.”

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“What holds people back from speaking up is fear.”

“Communication is at the heart of every single aspect of your career.”

“Don’t tell yourself a story that takes away your power.”