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    RiskReversal Pod

    Welcome to the RiskReversal Pod, where Dan Nathan and Guy Adami are joined by the most brilliant minds in markets and tech. 

    We break down the most important market moving headlines to help listeners make better informed investing decisions.

    Our goal is to deconstruct Wall Street speak and offer contrarian insights and strategies that help investors navigate increasingly volatile markets.

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    The financial opinions expressed in Risk Reversal content are for information purposes only. The opinions expressed by the hosts and participants are not an attempt to influence specific trading behavior, investments, or strategies. Past performance does not necessarily predict future outcomes. No specific results or profits are assured when relying on Risk Reversal.

    Before making any investment or trade, evaluate its suitability for your circumstances and consider consulting your own financial or investment advisor. The financial products discussed in Risk Reversal carry a high level of risk and may not be appropriate for many investors. If you have uncertainties, it’s advisable to seek professional advice. Remember that trading involves a risk to your capital, so only invest money that you can afford to lose.

    Derivatives are not suitable for all investors and involve the risk of losing more than the amount originally deposited and any profit you might have made. This communication is not a recommendation or offer to buy, sell or retain any specific investment or service.

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    Dave vs Goliath: How Fintech Challenges The Banking Establishment with Dave CEO Jason Wilk Feb 18, 2026
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    In this episode of The Risk Reversal Podcast, Dan Nathan and Guy Adami break down the massive rotation rocking the tech sector. Why are investors dumping software darlings like Salesforce, Adobe, and Oracle while Apple hits new highs? The guys debate whether the "AI tailwind" has officially become a headwind for SaaS companies and if the massive infrastructure spend by Microsoft and Google will ever generate a real return.

    After the break, Dan sits down with Jason Wilk, Founder and CEO of Dave ($DAVE). Jason shares his incredible founder journey—from a professional golf aspirant to landing Mark Cuban as a lead investor who capped his salary at $30k. They discuss how Dave is using AI-driven underwriting to disrupt JPMorgan and Wells Fargo, slashing default rates from 20% to 1%, and the future of fintech in a high-rate environment.

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    Why VCs Are Betting Billions on AI Labs That Have No Product Feb 16, 2026
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    Dan Nathan welcomes Michael Dempsey, partner at Compound VC, for an in-depth discussion on AI, crypto, and technological investing. Returning guest Dempsey shares his insights on historical and emerging trends in AI, highlighting the evolving landscape of AI commercialization, the increasing speed from research to market, and the shift from market cap expansion to destruction. The podcast also dives into Dempsey's venture capital strategies, discussing his firm's impressive portfolio, including companies like Runway and Wave, and their new public markets fund. The conversation later transitions to crypto, with guest Evan Karvounis sharing his journey and the significant potential he sees in the decentralized exchange, Hyper Liquid. Michael further elaborates on Bitcoin's potential as a store of value. The episode encapsulates a comprehensive overview of the bleeding-edge tech landscape and its promising future.

    After the break, Dan welcomes Evan Karvounis to the pod. Evan shares his view on Bitcoin's current branding issues linked to the Trump administration and the preference for gold among Eastern investors. The conversation then shifts to Ethereum and Solana, which Evan believes are significantly overvalued, explaining their past success through the 'casino chip thesis.' The focus then moves to Hyper Liquid, a decentralized exchange project Evan heavily invests in. He outlines its unique approach of building a product before a chain, its market potential, and recent impressive growth, particularly in traditional asset trading. The discussion concludes with Hyper Liquid's market positioning and revenue growth potential.

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    100 Years of Solitude & Alphabet Bonds with The Wall Street Skinny Feb 13, 2026
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    In this episode of the RiskReversal Podcast, hosts Dan Nathan and Guy Adami discuss significant market movements such as the volatility index breaching 20, the rolling over of bank stocks, and Walmart's rise to an all-time high. They also delve into sectors affected by AI disruption, including tech, software, and semiconductors. Special guests from The Wall Street Skinny, Jen Saarbach and Kristen Kelly, join to discuss Google's issuance of a 100-year bond denominated in Sterling, the ongoing Warner Brothers acquisition saga, and the long-term impact of AI on employment and various industries. The episode concludes by examining the potential market effects of these trends and the implications for retail and institutional investors.

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    Dan Ives: The $1 Trillion Buying Opportunity In Tech Feb 11, 2026
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    Dan Nathan sits with Dan Ives, head of Technology Research at Wedbush. They delve into Q1 market earnings, guidance for 2026, and the implications on CapEx and stock market reactions. The discussion expands to OpenAI’s influence, disruptive technologies, and tech stocks like Microsoft, Meta, and Nvidia. They also cover Ives’ diversified roles including his tech research, crypto investments, and his eponymous ETF. The conversation touches on AI’s impact on tech and software sectors, the rise of financial services utilizing AI, and the broader implications for future investments and market behavior.


    Show Notes

    • He’s Wall Street’s Biggest Showman. Should You Trust Him? (Barron's)


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    What We Learned From The Software Sell-off | He Said, She Said with The Wall Street Skinny Feb 09, 2026
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    Dan Nathan, Guy Adami, Kristen Kelly and Jen Saarbach discuss the recent happenings in the stock market, with a focus on the significant shift in sentiment towards SaaS companies. They explore how AI investments and the ensuing financial implications are affecting market valuations. The conversation touches on several key areas, including Microsoft's fluctuating performance, the role of rising interest rates, and the broader impact on the credit markets, especially in private equity and private credit. Additionally, the panel discusses the recent volatility in the cryptocurrency market, questioning Bitcoin's role as digital gold and the structural issues within the crypto ecosystem. They also examine the intriguing financial strategies and market maneuvers of Elon Musk's companies, particularly the recent merger between SpaceX and xAI. The episode concludes with a look at potential market rotations into sectors like financials and energy, as well as the upcoming challenges posed by macroeconomic conditions and the new Federal Reserve chair.

    Article Mentioned

    • Hedge Fund’s Bet on Liquidity Over Private Credit Is Paying Off (Bloomberg)

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    Jim Chanos: The Bears Are Out Of Hibernation Feb 06, 2026
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    Dan Nathan and Guy Adami welcome Jim Chanos, founder of Chanos and Co, to discuss a wide range of investment and market topics. They delve deep into Chanos' investment strategies, including his focus on short selling and hedging, as well as his views on the AI CapEx and its potential impacts on various industries. Jim also provides insights into specific companies like MicroStrategy and CoreWeave and highlights the implications of excessive reliance on subprime loans in companies like Carvana. The discussion expands to macroeconomic issues, such as the Chinese economy and its trade relationships with the U.S., and the speculative nature of current market conditions. The episode concludes with a look at retail investment behavior and the potential risks in the crypto market.


    Articles Referenced

    - Credit Market’s Reality Check Follows Decade of Loose Lending (Bloomberg)

    - The American and Chinese Economies Are Hurtling Toward a Messy Divorce (WSJ)

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    SaaSpocalypse Now: Picking Up The Pieces with RBC's Rishi Jaluria Feb 05, 2026
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    Dan Nathan hosts Rishi Jaluria from RBC Capital on the 'Okay, Computer' podcast, discussing the recent downturn in software stocks amid a contrasting performance in the semiconductor sector. Rishi attributes the decline to the rise of AI and its transformative impact on software companies. The conversation covers the uncertain future of enterprise software, with examples like Salesforce and Oracle experiencing significant drops. They explore how AI adoption could drive margin expansion across various industries, including retail and oil and gas. Finally, the potential of companies like Microsoft and HubSpot to leverage AI for growth is considered, along with the future role of AI leaders OpenAI, Anthropic, and Google in shaping the tech landscape.

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    How Will The Market Test Future Fed Chair Kevin Warsh? Feb 02, 2026
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    Dan Nathan and Guy Adami break down the market moves following Kevin Warsh's Federal Reserve Chair appointment, the shocking gold selloff, silver's collapse, and why Bitcoin can't break out despite the crypto-friendly administration. After the break, Jen Saarbach & Kristen Kelly join the guys to discuss the decline in the US dollar, market sentiment and Gen Z's proclivity for gambling.


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    • Hedge Funds Are Back on Top After a Long ‘Alpha Winter’ (WSJ)
    • Companies rush to refinance as credit looks good (Axios)
    • Gen Z is playing the economy like a casino (Axios)

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    Don't Fight The Treasury with Jurrien Timmer, Fidelity's Director of Global Macro Jan 30, 2026
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    In this episode of the RiskReversal Podcast, Dan Nathan and Guy Adami host Jurrien Timmer, Director of Global Macro Research at Fidelity Investments. The discussion reflects on the October 2023 market scenario when the 10-year yield reached 5% and the S&P 500 declined by 10%. Jurrien discusses the current bond market's stability, the geopolitical factors influencing gold prices, and the stock market's concentration risks with a focus on the Magnificent Seven (Mag 7) tech stocks. The conversation also covers interest rate risks, economic policies, and the potential implications of Japan's bond market volatility on global markets. Ian provides insights into valuation models, diversification strategies, and the AI boom's speculative nature, highlighting the need for careful portfolio management in a high-valuation environment.

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    Will The Capital Markets Close on OpenAI? | Steve Milunovich x Okay, Computer. Jan 28, 2026
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    Dan Nathan is joined by Steve Milunovich, a tech investor and retired sell-side analyst from Merrill Lynch. The discussion delves into the parallels between the AI boom and the dotcom era, touching on technological waves from the 1980s to the present. Milunovich highlights similarities such as early-stage winners, heavy capital expenditures, and the emergence of application layers later on. They also discuss the circular financing in the tech industry and potential risks, including heavy reliance on significant players like Nvidia and issues surrounding supply constraints. The conversation explores the broader implications of AI across various industries, including financial institutions and industrials, and considers the timeline for wider adoption and monetization of AI technologies. The dialogue is framed by historical context, with references to past tech bubbles, network effects, and the potential for new winners in unexpected sectors.


    Show Notes

    • AI: The Wrong Kind of Bubble (Breadcrum.vc)
    • Meta inks deal to pay Corning up to $6 billion for fiber-optic cables in AI data centers (CNBC)
    • AI productivity is about to become visible and investable (FT)

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