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    Alternative Health

    Plant Cunning Podcast

    Plant Cunning Podcast brings together people wise to the ways of plants, fungi, healing practices, & the natural world to explore the mysteries of Nature. Co-Hosted by astrologer, gardener & musician, Isaac Hill and herbalist & educator A.C. Stauble-Hill. We invite herbalists, mages, mycologists, gardeners, community organizers, healers, spiritual seekers & all kinds of other interesting people to the microphone to share their wisdom. We like to bridge different worlds, make connections, inspire, and at times, have our minds blown by our amazing guests. Enjoy!

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    Ep. 206: Ayurveda, Mental, and Spiritual Health with Dr. Christie Smirl Nov 20, 2025
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    Book a Vedic Astrology reading with Isaac by emailing info@plantcunning.com Today we host Dr. Christie Smirl (https://www.healthiervibrations.com/) an Ayurvedic practitioner and yogi, to discuss the intricate relationship between Ayurveda, mental health, and spiritual wellness. Dr. Christie shares her journey from Western hospital medicine to embracing Ayurvedic practices, highlighting the profound impact of plant-based remedies on restoring health. She elaborates on the fundamental differences between Western and Ayurvedic medicine, the importance of understanding one's dosha, and the healing properties of specific herbs like Tulsi and Ashwagandha. The conversation sheds light on how diet, lifestyle, and spiritual alignment play critical roles in holistic healing. Join us for an enlightening discussion that explores the deep wisdom of Ayurveda and its relevance in today's fast-paced world.00:00 Introduction to the Plant Cunning Podcast00:31 Meet Dr. Christie: From Western Medicine to Ayurveda01:38 Discovering the Power of Ayurvedic Medicine05:47 Ayurveda vs. Western Medicine: Comparative Insights13:04 Understanding Doshas and Their Impact on Health21:10 The Role of Gunas in Mental and Spiritual Health33:03 Addressing Psychological and Psychosomatic Conditions36:50 Avoiding Certain Foods and Lifestyle Adjustments37:13 Understanding Your Body and Mind as a Car38:30 Mental and Physical Doshas40:15 Implementing Lifestyle Changes41:44 Addressing Modern Lifestyle Diseases44:58 The Impact of Screen Time on Mental Health45:56 Ayurvedic Practices for Mental Balance51:26 Herbs for Mental Health: Tulsi and Bacopa01:00:17 Ashwagandha: A Modern Essential01:06:03 The Importance of Plant Relationships01:08:16 Conclusion and Resources


    Ep. 205: Clinical Herbalism and Field Botany with Richard Mandelbaum Nov 12, 2025
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    Welcome to the Plant Cunning Podcast! Today, we are thrilled to chat with Richard Mandelbaum, an herbalist, teacher, writer and one of the founders of ArborVitae School of Traditional Herbalism (https://www.arborvitaeny.com/). You can find him at https://www.richardmandelbaum.com/. In this episode, Richard shares his journey into the world of plants and herbalism, his experiences studying botany, and his insights into clinical herbalism. We delve into the importance of slowing down and truly observing the plants around us, the nuances of plant energetics, and the value of crossing scientific and traditional herbalist knowledge. Richard also talks about the dynamics of teaching field botany, working with clients, and the recent exploration of mosses.00:00 Introduction to the Plant Cunning Podcast00:31 Guest Introduction: Richard Mandelbaum00:53 The Herbal Community and Mutual Aid03:27 Richard's Journey to the Plant Path12:14 Learning and Teaching Field Botany27:21 Challenges in Plant Identification30:03 Working with Hawthorne in Herbal Practice36:22 Understanding Herbal Energetics38:13 Discovering Herbalism and Integrating Science38:43 The Value of Multiple Perspectives in Medicine40:41 Astrology and Energetic Systems41:59 Clinical Practice and Herbal Formulation45:53 Challenges in Mainstream Medicine51:44 The Importance of Clinical Experience01:00:28 Reflections on Field Botany01:09:17 Current Practice and Teaching01:13:04 Final Thoughts and Upcoming Events


    Ep. 204: Cathy Skipper on Herbal Distillation, Jungian Alchemy & Menopause Nov 06, 2025
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    Book a Vedic astrology reading with Isaac by emailing info@plantcunning.com.

    In this episode we talk with herbalist, teacher and distiller Cathy Skipper, who you can find at https://aromagnosis.com/⁠. Cathy shares her journey into the world of plants and herbalism, influenced by her family's rich history in natural medicine and gardening. She discusses her deep connections to the plant path and how it has become a family tradition. Cathy delves into her work on menopause, influenced by her personal experiences and Carl Jung's depth psychology. She talks about the alchemical journey of menopause and the concept of the 'sovereign woman', emphasizing the importance of embracing the transformation through menopause. Cathy also explores how essential oils and aromatherapy can be powerful tools in this spiritual and emotional journey. In addition to her insights on menopause, Cathy shines light on her distillation practice. She narrates the meticulous process of harvesting and distilling plants, focusing on the significance of using plants from the high desert and maintaining the integrity of essential oils. This episode is packed with wisdom on holistic healing, the power of plant medicine, and the deep connections we share with nature. Whether you're an herbalist, therapist, or simply someone curious about the mysteries of nature and personal transformation, this conversation with Cathy Skipper is sure to inspire and enlighten.

    00:00 Introduction to the Plant Cunning Podcast

    00:43 Cathy Skipper's Journey to Herbalism

    03:09 The Alchemy of Menopause

    11:11 Aromatherapy and Its Healing Power

    18:22 The Art and Science of Distillation

    24:01 Self-Healing and Jungian Concepts

    30:23 The Integrity of Essential Oil Practitioners

    31:46 The Importance of Small Distillers

    32:25 Aromatherapy in Psychedelic Therapy

    33:53 The Brutality of Industrial Harvesting

    34:26 The Reality of Monocrops

    35:52 Personal Experiences with Distillation

    39:29 Forgotten Plants and Their Significance

    53:15 The Healing Power of Aromatic Plants

    57:28 Upcoming Projects and Resources


    Ep. 203: Cunning Folk, Unbewitiching Herbs, and Geomancy with Dr. Al Cummins Oct 29, 2025
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    Today we dive into the world of the cunning folk with the knowledgeable and charismatic Dr. Al Cummins. Dr. Cummins, a historian and practitioner of magic, shares his journey from Birmingham, UK to the United States and his extensive research on service magicians, folk magic, and modern adaptations of these ancient practices. Join us as we explore the use of medicinal herbs like rosemary for spiritual and physical healing, the intricacies of geomancy, the ethics of divination, and Dr. Cummins' hands-on experiences with necromancy. This episode is packed with insights into the modern-day application of traditional magic, methods for diagnosing and protecting against negative influences, and unbewitching herbs. We hope you enjoy the show!


    Dr Alexander Cummins is a consultant, diviner, writer, contemporary cunning-man, and historian of magic. His magical specialities are the dead (folk necromancy), divination (geomancy) and the grimoires.

    Dr Cummins’ published works include An Excellent Booke of the Arte of Magicke (Scarlet Imprint, 2020) with Phil Legard, The Starry Rubric: Seventeenth-century English Astrology and Magic (Hadean Press 2012), A Book of the Magi: Lore, Prayers, and Spellcraft of the Three Holy Kings (Revelore Press, 2018), as well as contributions to collections by Three Hands Press, Scarlet Imprint, and Hadean Press. He is a founding editor of Revelore Press’ Folk Necromancy in Transmission series, and co-hosts the podcast Radio Free Golgotha.

    The Good Doctor is a frequent speaker on the international circuit, consults for clients and organisations, and provides training, workshops, and coaching in many aspects of magical theory, history, and practice. Originally from the Midlands of the UK, Al now makes his home in New Hampshire.

    00:00 Introduction to the Plant Cunning Podcast

    00:31 Meet Dr. Al Cummins: Scholar and Practitioner

    01:28 Al's journey to the US and His Background

    03:28 Exploring the History and Practice of Cunning Folk

    07:18 Astrology, Magic, and the Role of Cunning Folk

    19:05 The Intersection of Learned Magic and Cunning Craft

    25:56 Astrological Magic and Practical Applications

    33:30 Geomancy: The Earthy Sister of Astrology

    41:53 Unbewitching Herbs and Plant Magic

    45:44 Exploring Humoral Theory and Herbal Combinations

    46:08 Astrological and Folk Charm Practices

    46:42 The Power of Rosemary in Magic

    47:32 Purifying Herbs and Their Significance

    49:02 Working with Spirits and Rituals49:45 Practical Uses of Rosemary and Other Herbs

    51:27 Dealing with Curses and Spiritual Protection

    01:02:01 Divination and Its Importance in Magic

    01:17:26 The Evolution of Cunning Traditions

    01:22:26 Working with Spirits and Ancestors

    01:27:05 Navigating Relationships with Spirits

    01:28:33 Upcoming Events and Resources


    Ep. 202: Unlocking the Poison Path: Coby Michael on Herbs, Witchcraft, and Magic Oct 22, 2025
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    Join us on this spooky edition of the Plant Cunning Podcast as we welcome Coby Michael, author of 'The Poison Path Herbal: Baneful Herbs, Medicinal Nightshades, and Ritual Entheogens', 'The Poison Path Grimoire: Dark Herbalism, Poison Magic, and Baneful Allies' and proprietor of The Poisoner's Apothecary. Coby delves into the mystical world of poisonous plants and their role in herbalism and magic. Discover the fascinating uses of plants like Belladonna, Henbane, and Aconite, and learn how Coby's journey intertwined with these potent allies. Coby also talks about the upcoming Botanica Obscura Conference and offers insightful advice for those curious about the Poison Path.

    00:00 Introduction to the Plant Cunning Podcast

    01:23 Meet Coby Michael: Author and Herbalist

    02:04 Coby's Journey into the Poison Path

    05:27 Influences and Mentors in the Poison Path

    07:12 The Allure and Caution of Poisonous Plants

    09:25 Working with Poisonous Plants Spiritually and Practically

    12:34 Historical and Cultural Perspectives on Poisonous Plants

    19:27 Belladonna: The Witch's Swiss Army Knife

    31:48 Exploring Protection Magic

    32:32 The Mystique of Belladonna

    35:30 Henbane: A Poisonous Favorite

    46:35 The Intriguing World of Aconite

    48:51 Botanica Obscura Conference

    51:29 Final Thoughts and Advice


    Ep. 201: Ayurvedic Doshas and the Seasons with Meghan Rhodes Oct 15, 2025
    Show notes

    In this episode, we welcome back herbalist and teacher Meghan Rhodes and chat about the relationship between Ayurveda, the changing seasons, and how our constitutions are affected. We dive deep into the three doshas—Vata, Pitta, and Kapha—linked to the five elements: Ether, Air, Fire, Water, and Earth. Meghan shares her journey into Ayurveda and offers practical advice for balancing our systems as we transition through the seasons.

    Learn more about Meghan's intensive herbalism course - Awaken Herbal Wisdom - applications open each spring - https://bit.ly/43qbNxg
    Join her mailing list for updates on current cohorts and when applications open - https://bit.ly/4kqdWQi
    Instagram - @heritageschoolofherbalmedicine (https://www.instagram.com/heritageschoolofherbalmedicine/)Meghan Rhodes is a qualified herbalist and the founder and director of Heritage School of Herbal Medicine, where she guides students on a unique sense-based herbalism course and journey, Awaken Herbal Wisdom, for up to three turnings of the wheel.
    Meghan’s practice of herbalism is rooted in the belief that we must remember, reclaim and relearn our knowledge of our bodies, our autonomy and how to work with plant medicine in order to bring control of our own health back into our families and homes for a sustainable future for ourselves and the planet. Through her herbalism school, Meghan facilitates the development of confident, empowered herbalists, attuned to the messages of their bodies and the natural world. Living the deep wisdom of herbal medicine within themselves, their homes and their communities, they uplift themselves and others, creating a stronger society organically.
    Meghan is a member of both the College of Practitioners of Phytotherapy and the Ayurvedic Professionals Association.

    00:00 Introduction to the Plant Cunning Podcast

    00:31 Meet Meghan Rhodes: Herbalist and Teacher

    02:18 Seasonal Changes and Ayurvedic Doshas

    07:19 Understanding Ayurveda: From Elements to Doshas

    15:29 Identifying Doshas in People and Seasons

    21:33 Balancing Doshas and Health Implications

    28:02 Seasonal Cycles and Ayurvedic Practices

    30:13 Adapting Ayurveda to Local Climates

    34:02 Crafting with Paper Plates

    34:27 Flexibility in Seasonal Patterns

    34:36 Craft Time and Homework Ideas

    35:09 Balancing Doshas with Local Environment

    37:15 Seasonal Changes and Dosha Effects

    38:04 Preparing for Fall: Tips for Kapha Types

    40:19 Warming Foods and Drinks for Cold Seasons

    43:26 Herbal Remedies for Different Doshas

    46:20 The Importance of Seasonal Eating

    57:53 Fasting and Seasonal Resets

    01:03:10 Herbal Wisdom Course Overview


    Ep. 200: 5 years of Plant Cunning with Isaac, AC, and special guest host Gabriel Mojay Oct 09, 2025
    Show notes

    For our 5 year anniversary and 200th episode, we asked co-director of the Actaea Institute for Herbal Medicine and Aromatherapy, and well known author, herbalist and educator Gabriel Mojay to ask us some questions!

    00:00 Introduction and Milestones

    00:57 Special Guest: Gabriel Mojay

    02:08 Reflecting on the Podcast Journey

    04:04 The Origin Story

    13:27 Transition to Video and Social Media

    20:57 Guest Selection and Production Insights

    24:53 Exploring the Living Cosmos

    27:31 Trust in Plant Healing Modalities

    29:34 Holistic Healing and Spirituality

    35:29 Favorite Podcast Episodes

    40:29 Personal Transformations and Learning

    45:21 Future Plans and Aspirations

    52:33 Celebrating Milestones and Gratitude


    Ep. 199: Craig Williams on the Importance of Herbal Energetics, Ayurveda, TCM and Spiritual Healing Sep 24, 2025
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    In this episode we sit down with Craig Williams, L.Ac., AHG; esoteric author, Ayurvedic practitioner, and expert in traditional Chinese medicine. Craig shares his journey into the herbal medicine, influenced by his mother's early health food habits and his lifelong interest in Asian studies, including Qigong, Tai Chi, and Kung Fu. Craig delves into the importance of understanding the five elements, diagnosis, and the often overlooked concept of spiritual disease. He emphasizes the need for a balanced approach to health that integrates physical, psychological, and spiritual wellbeing. Craig also discusses his new book, the Aghora Verses, inspired by a profound experience at Mount Kailash. This episode is packed with insightful nuggets on herbalism, acupuncture, and the vital role of spiritual practices in achieving holistic health. Tune in for a deep dive into the mysteries of nature, plant relationships, and much more. Don't miss it!

    00:00 Introduction and Announcements

    00:48 Meet Craig Williams: Esoteric Author and Practitioner

    03:21 Craig's Journey to the Plant Path

    04:39 Exploring Mystical Experiences and Cultural Influences

    08:38 The Importance of Minimalism in Herbalism and Medicine

    13:41 Integrating Multiple Traditions and Systems

    23:44 The Role of Diagnosis in Health and Healing

    31:28 Understanding Patient Vitality in Ayurveda

    32:21 Infertility Cases and Energetic Systems

    33:03 The Role of Diagnostic Schema

    33:49 Basic Health Checks and Energetic Systems

    35:05 The Controversy of Dry Needling

    36:22 Empowering Patients with Energetic Systems

    37:00 Spiritual Healing and Diagnosis

    38:52 The Importance of Spiritual Practice

    40:53 Spiritual Sickness in Western Medicine

    45:26 The Role of Vedic Astrology in Healing

    52:04 The Power of Mantras and Spiritual Tools

    52:22 Introducing the New Book: Aghora Verses

    56:26 Final Thoughts and Encouragement


    Ep.198: Fall Forecast with ZamboniFunk Sep 17, 2025
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    Welcome to the Fall Forecast for 2025 with ZamboniFunk! Tune in as we discuss everything from Mars in Scorpio and eclipse season to strategies for building personal power and forecasting key astrological events for Q4 2025. Zamboni covers notable alignments, including the challenging aspects during Libra and Sagittarius seasons, and provides valuable advice for navigating these turbulent times. We also touch on exciting events such as the upcoming Plant Cunning Conference and the launch of a new herb school program. This episode is packed with astrological wisdom and practical tips to enhance your understanding and approach to the unique cosmic energies of this season.

    00:00 Introduction to the Plant Cunning Podcast

    00:31 Fall Forecast Overview with ZamboniFunk

    01:41 Upcoming Events and Announcements

    03:38 Astrological Insights for Q4 2025

    04:24 Mars in Scorpio and Planetary Movements

    09:55 Eclipse Season and Solar Eclipse Discussion

    19:03 Neptune in Aries and Political Violence

    22:04 Saturn's Influence and Retrograde Movements

    27:33 Personal Growth and Spirituality

    34:14 The Impact of Witchcraft and Public Perception

    43:09 Plant Cunning Conference and Isaac's Musical Talent

    44:26 Cultivating Personal Power with Mercury and Mars in Scorpio

    45:19 Mars and Scorpio: Strategic Victory and Talismans

    48:40 Electional Astrology and Practical Applications

    57:54 Navigating Mercury and Mars in Sagittarius

    01:02:51 Venus in Libra: Negotiation and Diplomacy

    01:06:21 Jupiter in Cancer: Abundance and Faith

    01:15:14 Final Thoughts and Encouragement


    Ep. 197: John Michael Greer on John Dee, Astrological & Natural Magic, and Fluid Condensers Sep 10, 2025
    Show notes

    Welcome to a deep dive into the mysteries of astrological and natural magic with returning guest John Michael Greer on the Plant Cunning Podcast! From examining John Dee's aphorisms on astrology and magic to unveiling the practical uses of fluid condensers and planetary talismans, this episode is packed with fascinating insights. John also sheds light on integrating ancient traditions with modern practices and the importance of meditative self-improvement. If you're eager to harness the power of astrological and natural magic, this episode is a must-listen! Don't forget to like, comment, and subscribe to stay updated with our magical journeys! #Astrology #AncientMagic #JohnMichaelGreer #PlantCunningPodcast #Talismans #HerbalMagic #AstrologicalMagic

    00:00 Introduction and Welcome

    00:34 Guest Introduction: John Michael Greer

    00:48 Announcements and Updates

    02:36 Discussion on John Dee's Aphorisms

    03:47 Historical Context and Renaissance Astrology

    08:54 Modern Interpretations and Practices

    36:29 Astrological Magic and Fluid Condensers

    43:48 Navigating Lunar Timing

    44:11 Understanding Talismans and Amulets

    47:07 Empowering Statues and Images

    50:21 Practical Magic and Divination

    52:15 Planetary Charities and Remedies

    57:09 Reviving Renaissance Magic

    01:05:26 The Complexity of Plant Correspondences

    01:17:43 Crafting and Using Mars Talismans

    01:18:16 The Role of Saffron in Solar and Jupiter Rituals

    01:19:50 Living Statues and Spiritual Entities

    01:23:19 The Importance of Self-Development in Magic

    01:29:54 The Debate on Paper Talismans

    01:37:20 Astrological Systems and Universal Truths

    01:45:32 Final Thoughts and Upcoming Jupiter Elections

    01:47:11 Practical Tips for Making and Deconsecrating Talismans


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