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    Alternative Health

    Plant Cunning Podcast

    Plant Cunning Podcast brings together people wise to the ways of plants, fungi, healing practices, & the natural world to explore the mysteries of Nature. Co-Hosted by astrologer, gardener & musician, Isaac Hill and herbalist & educator A.C. Stauble-Hill. We invite herbalists, mages, mycologists, gardeners, community organizers, healers, spiritual seekers & all kinds of other interesting people to the microphone to share their wisdom. We like to bridge different worlds, make connections, inspire, and at times, have our minds blown by our amazing guests. Enjoy!

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    Ep.236: Don't Be Afraid of the Herbs: Andrea Beaman on Natural & Spiritual Healing Jun 24, 2026
    Show notes

    Find out more and get your tickets for thePlant Cunning Conference – In-Person in New York – July 24-26, 2026 here!Today on the Plant Cunning Podcast, hosts Isaac and AC Hill interview nutritionist, health coach, herbalist, and educator Andrea Beaman. She shares how she healed her thyroid through diet and lifestyle changes and later navigated a debilitating 2012–2013 illness she associated with Lyme after recurring lung infections, joint pain, and depression. Beaman discusses fear of herbs as cultural residue from witch trials and modern medical suppression, encourages experimentation with time-tested remedies and kitchen herbs, and stresses grounding, meditation, and heart-based intuition (including muscle testing). She outlines thyroid imbalance symptoms, links many cases to nutritional deficiency and stress, touches on autoimmune thyroid issues and parasites, recounts powerful experiences with trees and ayahuasca, and invites listeners to her courses and Health is Wealth community at andreabeaman.com.

    01:29 Meet Andrea Beaman

    02:50 A Health Crisis Begins

    06:07 How did you find out it was Lyme disease?

    09:01 Breakthrough with Teasel

    13:09 Herb School and Self Testing

    14:16 Trusting Herbs and Tuning In

    19:04 Healing Beyond Food

    21:47 Thyroid Healing Origins

    23:00 Thyroid Signs and Root Causes

    32:41 Herbs for Mind and Spirit

    34:12 Ayahuasca and Plant Connection

    36:06 Do Plants Speak?

    41:17 Central Park Tree Spirit

    43:11 Why People Fear Herbs

    45:03 Witch Trials Trauma Echoes

    47:49 Reclaiming Plant Confidence

    50:40 Kitchen Herbs and COVID

    54:00 Fear Physiology and Hospitals

    57:33 Trust Your Heart Intuition

    01:01:17 Meditation Cracks the Heart

    01:03:11 Rethinking Education and Nature

    01:04:34 Where to Learn With Andrea

    01:08:17 Simple Recipes and Farewell


    Ep. 235: Summer 2026 Astrological Forecast with ZamboniFunk Jun 17, 2026
    Show notes

    Find out more about the Plant Cunning Conference at Plant Cunning Conference – In-Person in New York – July 24-26, 2026Astrologer ZamboniFunk returns to talk about the astrological forecast for summer 2026! We discuss the Cancer Mercury retrograde as a loud season for mistakes, delays, review, and serendipity, followed by Mars entering Gemini and conjoining Uranus, trining Pluto in Aquarius, heightening anxiety, disruption, experimentation, and possible tech/cybersecurity volatility. Jupiter’s move into Leo is framed as more defensive support amid “pirate season” boundary-testing, with a key July 29 Jupiter cazimi opposite Pluto alongside a full moon conjunct Pluto, suggesting power plays and revelations. The episode closes with herbal support for stress and heart strain: harvesting motherwort, and combining it with hawthorn and rose for courage, boundaries, grief, and tension.

    00:00 Podcast Welcome

    00:20 Conference Announcement

    01:17 Summer Forecast Begins

    01:55 Mercury Retrograde Setup

    03:38 Mars Uranus Volatility

    06:25 Experimentation Pirate Season

    08:41 Mercury Retrograde Lessons

    14:04 Jupiter Enters Leo

    20:04 Jupiter Pluto Power Plays

    23:03 Nodes Shift Authority

    24:18 Era of Air Metaphor

    24:58 Redistribution Scenarios

    26:36 Mutual Aid Power

    27:19 Jupiter Pluto Togetherness

    28:28 Eclipses Chaos Reset

    29:37 Robots Hive Mind

    31:09 Adaptability Job Shakeup

    34:46 Pirate Season Skills

    35:29 Motherwort Heart Medicine

    38:18 Hawthorn Boundaries

    40:44 Courage Against Tech Future

    43:05 Delusion & Hope

    47:37 Conference And Farewell


    Ep. 234: Earth Energy, Dragons and Faeries with Trista Haggerty Jun 10, 2026
    Show notes

    Find out more about the Plant Cunning Conference – In-Person in New York – July 24-26, 2026Today, AC & Isaac interview Trista Haggerty, author of When the Dark Mother Calls, about her path into mysticism after a dark night of the soul and two decades of mentoring with a German mystic while traveling to sacred sites in places such as Peru and Ireland. They discuss what makes power spots sacred, stone circles as “acupuncture,” and caves as initiation spaces, plus practices for trusting intuition through body-based discernment. Trista shares her work at Hawk Circle, a couple-hundred-acre land project where she’s building stone circle, trails, and a perfumery inspired by Egyptian temple recipes to fund youth nature programs. The conversation also explores fairies, dragons, the “threefold path,” and her upcoming talk at the Plant Cunning Conference (July 24–26) alongside other speakers.


    01:38 Trista Meets Her Mentor

    03:31 First Sacred Site Journeys

    06:21 Earth-Based Mysticism Lessons

    08:22 What Makes Sites Sacred

    11:26 Primal Earth Energy Work

    15:08 Mystic Path and Hidden Teachings

    19:07 Trusting Intuition in Noise

    23:51 Hawk Circle Vision and Land

    29:51 Perfumery and Temple Scents

    31:49 Essential Oils Impact

    32:04 Ritual Perfumery Journey

    33:11 Fairy Lore Explained

    37:15 Threefold Path Teachings

    40:14 Dragons and the Land

    42:08 First Dragon Encounter

    43:45 Connecting With Dragons

    47:39 Awakening Landscape Dragons

    48:38 Dragon Humor and Myths

    53:31 New Earth Vision

    56:41 When the Dark Mother Calls


    Ep. 233: The Hot Tincture Method with Mary Blue Jun 03, 2026
    Show notes

    Learn more about the Plant Cunning Conference at:Plant Cunning Conference – In-Person in New York – July 24-26, 2026On this episode, Isaac and AC welcome community herbalist, author, and teacher Mary Blue to talk about the "hot tincture method" and why applying a hot water extraction can dramatically improve tincture color, aroma, taste, and effectiveness while saving plant material, storage space, and time. Mary shares her path from environmental and protest activism into herbalism, her day-to-day running an herb shop and farm, and the mentors and experiences that shaped her teaching focus on herbal actions and solvency. They discuss safety lessons learned from heating alcohol, plant-specific considerations (including mushrooms, marshmallow, comfrey, and milk thistle), glycerins and oils, and how herbalism functions as a form of activism through accessibility, community support, and sustainable practice.

    02:23 Meet Mary Blue

    02:55 Activism To Herbalism

    04:46 Running Farmacy Herbs

    06:14 Mentors And Training

    08:01 Teaching Solvency Basics

    09:55 Common Solvency Confusions

    11:26 Accessible Teaching Methods

    13:53 The "Hot Tincture Method" Explained

    16:19 Why It Works Better

    23:09 How Mary Blue almost burned down her apothecary

    28:01 Tincture Ratios

    31:24 When Not to Tincture

    31:50 Comfrey Safety Debate

    33:12 Liniments and Compresses

    34:43 Glycerins and Pre Extraction

    36:01 Heating Oils for Extraction

    36:29 Classes and Farm Intensives

    37:46 Hosting Herbal Events

    39:25 Herbalism as Activism

    40:55 Burnout to Micro Activism

    47:02 Fulfillment Through Service

    47:58 The Future of Herbalism

    s52:55 Creativity and Community Play


    Ep. 232: David Holmgren on Permaculture's Origins & Building Resilient Households May 27, 2026
    Show notes

    Get your tickets for the Plant Cunning Conference here: Plant Cunning Conference – In-Person in New York – July 24-26, 2026Today on the show, Isaac & AC welcome David Holmgren, co-originator of the Permaculture concept.In this episode, David describes life at Melliodora in Central Victoria with three semi-autonomous households sharing work and produce, and recounts how he came to the “plant path” through plant ID, foraging, and early research for Permaculture One. He tells the story of meeting Bill Mollison in 1974 and how the idea of agriculture functioning like a forest became a seed of permaculture, while reflecting on Mollison’s charisma and difficulty. The conversation explores holistic thinking versus reductionism, DIY self-reliance, cycles of skill loss and renewal, COVID’s impact on interest in permaculture and RetroSuburbia, “enlightened self-interest,” energy descent and relocalization, household-scale resilience including health capacity, and where to find Holmgren’s essays and websites.

    02:11 Meet David Holmgren

    03:47 Finding the Plant Path

    06:04 Chance Meeting with Bill Mollison

    08:15 Permaculture Seed Idea

    12:12 Working with a Charismatic Genius

    15:31 Patterns vs Practice

    21:13 DIY Skills and Tasmania Culture

    24:27 Cycles of Self Reliance

    28:17 COVID and RetroSuburbia Spike

    30:07 Enlightened Self Interest Explained

    37:29 Humans as Keystone Species

    38:26 Hierarchy and Elite Corruption

    40:35 Predators and Power

    41:25 Fossil Fuel Hierarchy

    42:42 Globalists vs Sovereigntists

    44:11 Household Resilience Basics

    45:35 Health as Weak Link

    47:44 Bigger Households Work

    52:17 Household Beats Consensus

    55:23 Food Growing Mindset

    59:09 Jack of all trades, Master of One

    01:03:06 Why Intentional Communities Fail

    01:06:49 Brown Tech Uncertainty

    01:08:32 Tower of Babel Reality

    01:12:35 Long Descent Balance

    01:16:29 Essays and Resources

    01:19:30 Final Thanks and Wrap


    Ep. 231: Embodied Astrology with Gary Caton May 13, 2026
    Show notes

    Sign up for the free Herbal Dental Care class here: https://courses.herbrally.com/a/2148265685/vCybToz9

    Get The Zodiac Garden Guide here: Amazon.com: The Zodiac Garden Guide: A Handbook of Astrological Gardening: 9798253036525: Hill, Isaac Alexander, Cole, Freedom: Books


    Get your tickets for the Plant Cunning Conference here: Plant Cunning Conference – In-Person in New York – July 24-26, 2026Today, Isaac and AC welcome Gary P. Caton, the "Hermetic Astrologer" to discuss embodied astrology—going outside to directly observe and relate with the planets. Caton recounts his father teaching him to plant by the Moon, a 1993 dream tied to a Sun–Venus conjunction, and his experience with Project Hindsight translations that renewed interest in sky-based practice. He describes conversations and synchronicities with Venus and plants, argues astrologers have an ethical imperative to know the sky firsthand, and explains practical entry points like tracking Venus’s seven Moon conjunctions and working with new/full moons for intentions. The conversation also explores ethics, seasonality, civilization cycles, and “seed people.”

    03:15 Meet Gary Caton

    03:36 Origins in Astrology

    05:32 Venus Dream Awakening

    08:57 Planets and Plants Talk

    11:45 Why "Embodied Astrology"?

    13:59 Civilization and Planets

    18:12 Hermes Myth and Charts

    23:22 Start Embodied Astrology

    26:25 Venus Cycle Dates

    29:17 Moon Cycles and Seeds

    31:01 Dark Moon and Ethics

    34:16 Waning Moon Decrease

    36:08 Disseminating Phase Seeds

    37:15 Rudhyar Autumn Metaphor

    39:07 Science and Hermeticism

    40:38 Becoming Seed People

    44:58 The Elements, Love and Strife

    47:22 Ape Hierarchies Embodiment

    51:38 Sunrise Ritual Nature Healing

    55:37 Quiet Desert Homecoming

    57:31 Where to Find Gary

    59:47 Biodynamic Planting Calendar

    01:02:33 Wrap Up and Thanks


    Ep. 230: Traditional African Medicine with Olatokunboh Obasi May 06, 2026
    Show notes

    Today AC & Isaac welcome herbalist and teacher Olatokunboh Obasi back to the Plant Cunning Podcast for a second interview, now speaking from outside Nairobi, Kenya. Obasi shares that she’s finishing a doctorate in clinical nutrition while working toward opening an integrative women’s health clinic, and explains how nutrition, changing food systems, and modern indoor life affect herbal outcomes. She discusses divination and geomancy, genetics as “codes” responding to environment, and how she navigates multiple traditions—Yoruba as her root, alongside Taíno and Kenyan indigenous practices—without collapsing them into one. They explore Kenyan healing culture, including lineage-based herbalism, diviners, birth workers, and bone-setting (lila) meridian work, plus a story of discovering an East African betony for headaches. Obasi also defines traditional African medicine as diverse, spiritually centered, and regionally distinct, and critiques material reductionism in Western herbalism while pointing to figures like Culpeper and Hildegard as bridges back to spirit.

    00:00 Welcome and Guest Intro

    01:45 Ola’s Life in Kenya

    03:50 Why Clinical Nutrition

    05:52 Divination and Genetics

    09:31 Lineages and Training

    11:41 Navigating Multiple Traditions

    16:47 Plants Calling in Kenya

    22:15 Healing Culture in Kenya

    24:40 Bone Setting and Lila

    28:32 Community-Based Medicine

    34:32 Defining African Traditional Medicine

    36:16 Spirit First Healing

    36:47 Lineage And Bioregions

    37:45 Cross Cultural Herbal Exchange

    41:37 Reclaiming Spirit In Herbalism

    44:02 Traditional Western Medicine

    45:44 Astrology, Culpeper, Hildegard

    50:17 Centering Over Scrolling

    53:07 Rest Boredom And Reading

    54:07 Rethinking Academia And Art

    58:27 Craft Culture And Kenya


    Ep. 229: Sacred Homemaking with Kimberly Steele Apr 29, 2026
    Show notes

    In this Plant Cunning Podcast episode, AC & Isaac interview Kimberly Steele about her first book, Sacred Homemaking, on making the home a sacred space through everyday practices. Steele shares her path from a casual Christian upbringing and decades of atheism into Druidry and daily spiritual discipline, including meditation and long-term practice of Sphere of Protection rituals, and discusses gratitude and generosity as transformative forces. She explains perceiving multiple “planes” (physical, etheric, astral, spiritual) and how tidying, thanking household objects, cleaning (especially the toilet), and avoiding both hoarding and sterile perfection can shift a home’s “vibe.” Steele offers practical suggestions such as removing “haunted” objects, using sprays and salt, and placing symmetrical sacred geometry patterns as “demon traps,” critiques materialism and doomscrolling, and introduces the idea of “astral pyramids” and group spirits.00:00 Show Intro and Announcements00:39 Meet Kimberly Steele01:27 Her Spiritual Origin Story05:27 Gratitude and Generosity09:09 From Atheism to Spirit10:27 Planes of Existence Explained12:45 Sacred Homemaking Basics18:44 Spirits at Home and Influence22:21 Protection and Banishing25:22 Sacred Geometry Demon Traps29:41 Order vs Sterile Living33:48 Toilet Cleaning and Money Luck35:26 Recognizing the Spirit of Place37:34 Gratitude Improves Relationships38:25 Marriage Scorekeeping Trap39:42 Sacred Beauty And Illusion40:31 Looksmaxing And Dysmorphia41:39 Ozempic And Willpower44:38 Health Complaints Culture46:10 Astral Dumpster Fire47:46 Screens With Boundaries49:08 Kids Gaming And Enchantment52:19 Kung Fu Daily Discipline54:38 Gratitude Raises Consciousness59:16 Home Vibe And Spirit Of Place01:00:56 Astral Pyramids And Egregores01:06:40 Music As Prayer And Earworms01:11:22 Book Wrap Up And Where To Find Her


    Ep. 228: Black Paths & Green Cathedrals with Sian Sibley Apr 22, 2026
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    In this episode of the Plant Cunning Podcast, hosts Isaac & AC Hill talks with Sian Sibley—witch, author of Black Paths and Green Cathedrals, and founder of the Dragon Oak Coven in Wales—about building real relationships with plant and tree spirits, including mugwort as an initiator and yew as a teacher around death and continuity. Sian shares how to approach trees respectfully, how to recognize a clear “no,” and why taking plant material without permission can undermine magical work. They discuss key allies like hazel, apple, hawthorn (including timing Beltane by local hawthorn bloom), and elder’s seasonal “three faces,” plus practical astral/meditation safety and grounding. The conversation also critiques modern pagan and wellness habits that harm ecosystems—crystals, frankincense, wasteful candles, and commodified entheogens—calling for smaller, more local, less consumerist practice.


    01:24 Meet Sian Sibley

    01:54 Springtime Blackthorn

    02:29 Finding the Plant Path

    03:07 Mugwort Opens the Gate

    06:06 Yew and Death Mysteries

    08:53 Patience and Plant Consent

    09:37 Blackthorn Says No

    13:57 When Plants Reject You

    14:37 Buttercup and Monks Hood

    17:30 Who Is Charubel

    19:54 Sigils and Personal Practice

    22:55 Astral Safety Basics

    26:33 Protective Tree Allies

    27:41 Hazel, Apple, Elder, Hawthorn

    28:20 Elder Medicine and Folklore

    30:45 Elder Initiation Poem

    32:22 Pruning and Asking Permission

    34:37 Elder Tree Lore

    35:41 Hazel Nuts Wisdom

    36:29 Hawthorn Beltane Timing

    39:51 Local Time Cycles

    42:44 Circadian Clock Health

    47:13 Rest, Boredom & Imagination

    47:43 Eco-Spirituality Critique

    48:55 The Ethics of Crystals and Frankinscence

    57:21 Living Smaller Solutions

    01:04:20 Closing Poem

    01:06:06 Where To Find Sian


    Ep. 227: Alan Chapman and the Garden of Awakening Apr 15, 2026
    Show notes

    Get The Zodiac Garden Guide on Amazon (available in any country)

    Book a Vedic astrology consultation with Isaac by emailing him at askisaachill@gmail.com

    On the Plant Cunning Podcast, Isaac & AC Hill interview Alan Chapman (at Barbarous Words.com) —magician, mystic, and writer—about his path from chaos magic to teaching Magia, a Western tradition oriented around awakening. Chapman describes a deepening in 2013 following awakening in India (in Tiruvannamalai) that led to his book Magia and a shift toward a more “miraculous” view of realization beyond standard nonduality frameworks. They discuss delusion as mistaken identity, “silent knowing” as the impulse behind seeking, transmission and its seductions, the limits of maps versus the need for cosmology, and a gardening metaphor for traditions that avoids both perennial “mush” and rigid traditionalism. Chapman shares how he works with students through practices that let experiences disclose their nature, and he points to his site and retreats for further study.

    01:29 Meeting Alan Chapman

    02:45 Baptist's Head Era

    05:17 Awakening Deepens 2013

    13:12 What I Know Sure

    17:29 Silent Knowing Faith

    21:15 Gnosticism Labels Rejected

    24:21 Traditions as Garden

    27:42 Universals and Particulars

    31:44 Fear and Running Away

    37:37 Delusion and Trust Thread

    44:24 Morality After Awakening

    46:01 Ramana Self Inquiry Myth

    47:09 Who Am I Inquiry

    48:34 Transmission Explained

    49:46 Seduction of Control

    52:24 Guru Yoga and Institutions

    54:43 Why Teachers Help

    56:28 What We Really Seek

    58:04 Entrainment and Dependency

    01:00:17 Cautionary Guru Stories

    01:04:42 Maps Versus Cosmology

    01:06:07 Let It Disclose

    01:07:12 Gardening the Path

    01:13:36 Faith and Silent Knowing

    01:19:13 Practice and Awakening

    01:22:44 Enjoying the Garden

    01:23:33 Extreme Awakening Chasing

    01:24:06 Two Worlds One Heart

    01:26:09 Farming Incarnation Metaphor

    01:27:39 Transmission Life and Death

    01:30:28 Minimal Tree Cosmology

    01:32:35 Unbinding Practice Steps

    01:34:41 Mounting Cosmology Stages

    01:36:49 Journal Envy and Comparison

    01:40:37 Dry Paths and Fireworks

    01:48:25 Cosmological Binding Method

    01:49:28 Unconditional States Test

    01:58:29 Cutting Down the Tree

    01:59:21 Resources Retreats Farewell


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