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Our True Crime Podcast focuses on bizarre, lesser-known crime cases from around the globe delivered with respect, a bit of humor, and a smidge of song. Everything you’ve come to love from Jen and Cam.

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177. The Boys In Barking: Anthony, Gabriel, Daniel and Jack Aug 10, 2022

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On September 20th, 2014, dog walker Barbara Denham entered the walled graveyard of St. Margaret of Antioch church in Barking, London. She saw a young man sitting up against the cemetery wall amidst the ruins of the old abbey. As Ms. Denham approached, the young man never reacted or indicated that he heard her or the collie. Hesitantly, she walked over and found that twenty-one-year-old Daniel Whitworth was dead. Ms. Denham immediately phoned the police saying, “I was the same woman that found the other body a few weeks ago. I found another young boy.”
Join Jen and Cam as they talk about how the murderous and lascivious behavior of Stephen Port would go unchecked by authorities. The investigation has been described as "One of the most widespread institutional failures in modern history" In fact, had it not been for the sisters of his last victim, Jack Taylor, he would have likely continued killing.
Thanks to the OTCP team
Listener Discretion by Edward @OctoberpodVHS. You can find him on all your podcast apps or at https://www.youtube.com/c/octoberpodhomevideo
Producer and theme music by Nico Vettese
wetalkofdreams.com
Researched and written by Lauretta Allen
Sources:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3282343/Moment-chef-accused-poisoning-killing-four-gay-men-met-online-appeared-television-alongside-Celebrity-Masterchef-contestants.html?fbclid=IwAR1gy9eEZJSr0MO-gPbH_MedUtt18Vjz8Xnh3WZoT-88jdNeRlNXvQMTZTo
https://thetalentzone.co.uk/musictv/16206/food-ingredients-at-west-ham-bus-garage-proved-a-test-for-the-contestants-on-celebrity-masterchef-2014/?fbclid=IwAR04xLHQ0ZN3h6wWu8H-p93byzavFjJevkznNj2eW0cj6PN5fhbBfMjYsXE
https://diamondgeezer.blogspot.com/2014/06/west-ham-bus-garage.html?fbclid=IwAR0ekTEgZJlOsdlsmVfChe4rG7BmFxFaAqrvycmu2YuFGP7SaIfh-VjwysY
https://www.wunderground.com/history/daily/gb/london/EGLC/date/2014-6-19
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3937820/Family-Stephen-Port-s-final-victim-slam-police-blunders.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMPAKrwHmSg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkohABWOrRE
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Port
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-61909143
https://news.sky.com/story/stephen-port-families-of-men-murdered-by-grindr-killer-demand-met-police-put-things-right-12639418

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176. Joseph Naso: His List of Ten Aug 03, 2022

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Imagine you are a probation officer and you get a phone call that one of your offenders hasn’t checked in with you as of late. Since he is an elderly man in his late 70s, you hope he is ok. It is April 13, 2010, an officer goes to the home to check on him. The officer goes into the home and talks to the man. He then walks about the house to get a look around which is standard. It all looks ok. Located in the back of the home, the officer discovers a room. This room has a giant padlock on the door from the outside. Immediately sensing something is not right, he demands to get into each of the rooms. What authorities would find in the house is what nightmares are made of. It is a scene straight out of one of those haunted houses kids visit on Halloween night, but this was no haunted house, and no one --children or adults --should have to see what was inside.
Join Jen and Cam on this episode of ‘Our True Crime Podcast’ entitled ‘Joseph Naso: His List of Ten.’
Listener Discretion by @octoberpodVHS………………………..
Music and EP is by @wetalkofdreams………………….
Sources:
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/joseph-naso-suspected-serial-killer-rape-diary-authorities-article-1.1005103
https://web.archive.org/web/20140905015545/http://www.crimelibrary.com/serial_killers/predators/joseph-naso/crazy-joe.html
https://web.archive.org/web/20140403050028/http://www.crimelibrary.com/serial_killers/predators/joseph-naso/an-odd-history.html
http://www.sfgate.com/crime/article/Joseph-Naso-accused-in-Dylan-fan-s-disappearance-2492547.php
https://web.archive.org/web/20141026172333/http://www.marinij.com/crimebeat/ci_23966535/marin-prosecutors-link-killer-naso-tiburon-victim-1981
https://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=AwrEtwrGz.pi21oJ9xdXNyoA;_ylu=Y29sbwNiZjEEcG9zAzMEdnRpZAMEc2VjA3Ny/RV=2/RE=1659584582/RO=10/RU=https%3a%2f%2fwww.crimetraveller.org%2f2017%2f06%2flist-of-10-serial-killer-joseph-naso%2f/RK=2/RS=XfBXEVjDIuf68PkK8TAEvkIEGBQ-
https://www.amazon.com/LIST-10-Serial-Killer-Homicide/dp/1987902327
https://abc7news.com/tag/joseph-naso/
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2394413/Joseph-Naso-trial-Sick-diary-entries-serial-killer-rapist-drugged-photographed-victims-read-court.html
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/rape-diary-details-revealed-in-case-of-joseph-naso-alleged-calif-serial-killer/

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175. The Cannock Chase Murders Jul 27, 2022

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****Content Warning****
Cannock Chase is 26 square miles of deciduous and coniferous woodland, open heathland, and small lakes in the West Midlands of England. It's a popular place to go hiking and mountain biking. As beautiful as Cannock Chase is, it has a bit of a dark past.
In the 1960s, children in the area were abducted, assaulted, and murdered; their bodies were discovered later in the dense foliage of Cannock Chase. A human monster was on the loose.
Join Cam and Jen as we discuss The Cannock Chase Murders.
Thanks to the OTCP team
Listener Discretion by Edward @OctoberpodVHS. You can find him on all your podcast apps or at https://www.youtube.com/c/octoberpodhomevideo
Producer and theme music by Nico Vettese
wetalkofdreams.com
Researched and written by Lauretta Allen
Sources:
https://www.expressandstar.com/news/2014/03/15/child-murderer-raymond-morris-tried-to-kill-me/
https://www.thefreelibrary.com/I+was+abducted%2C+strangled+and+sexually+assaulted+by+Cannock+Chase...-a069171177
https://www.amazon.com/Cold-Fury-Cannock-Chase-Murders/dp/B085KKM46B
https://www.amazon.com/Cannock-Chase-Murders-Pat-Molloy/dp/0340586206
https://www.expressandstar.com/news/2014/03/13/life-meant-life-for-wicked-killer-raymond-morris/
https://scepticpeg.wordpress.com/2017/02/12/william-ian-copeland-the-murder-of-jane-elizabeth-taylor/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannock_Chase_murders#:~:text=18%20February%201969.-,Conviction,and%20murder%20of%20Christine%20Darby.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-26557796
https://www.crimeandinvestigation.co.uk/crime-files/cannock-chase-murders
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannock_Chase
https://www.britannica.com/place/Cannock-Chase
https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/09/29/mystery-black-eyed-child-sightings-cannock-chase-_n_5898988.html
https://murderpedia.org/male.M/m/morris-raymond-leslie.htm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walsall
https://www.ovationtv.com/watch/playlist/JzKtxvf3/the-cannock-chase-murders/
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Walsall,+UK/@52.5946044,-1.9636683,12z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m5!3m4!1s0x487098817d6d754f:0x66571b177589404d!8m2!3d52.586214!4d-1.982919

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174. Deadly Getaway: Randy Roth Jul 20, 2022

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He seemed like the perfect man, at first. He wined and dined that special one who caught his eye, at the beginning. He would sweep them off their feet and marry them, quickly. He was after more than marriage, in fact, marriage was just a way to get what he was after. What he was after would cost more than one woman her life. After all, tragic accidents happen but when these tragic accidents happen with the same person at the center of incidents, you have to take a closer look.
Join Jen and Cam on this episode of “Our True Crime Podcast’ entitled Deadly Getaways: Randy Roth.
Listener Discretion is by the smooth voice at the top of the show, Edward October @octoberpodVHS
All our original music is by the talented Nico @wetalkofdreams
We liked him so much, we made him our EP.
Sources:
Fatal Charm by Carlton Smith
A Rose for Her Grave by Ann Rule
https://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=Awrhdo39DNdihWkCHApXNyoA;_ylu=Y29sbwNiZjEEcG9zAzcEdnRpZAMEc2VjA3Ny/RV=2/RE=1658289534/RO=10/RU=http%3a%2f%2fwww.murderpedia.org%2fmale.R%2fimages%2froth-randy%2frandy-roth-info.pdf/RK=2/RS=kwiIg4HuR9m5Tr3Qdd..tkZbR1M-
https://6park.news/northdakota/where-is-randy-roth-now-to-update.html
https://ourcommunitynow.com/lifestyle/cynthia-roth-murder-where-is-randy-roth-now
https://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/wash-charmer-murders-wife-insurance-money-1991-article-1.3688774
https://www.thenewstribune.com/news/state/washington/article243803087.html
http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/archive/?date=19920313&slug=1480685
http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/archive/?date=19920418&slug=1487092
http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/archive/?date=19920410&slug=1485621
http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/archive/?date=19920414&slug=1486330
http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/archive/?date=19920425&slug=1488350
http://www.doc.wa.gov/offenderinfo/default.aspx
https://www.thenewstribune.com/news/state/washington/article243803087.html
https://murderpedia.org/male.R/r/roth-randy.htm

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173. Abduction at the Adelaide Oval : Joanne Ratcliffe and Kirste Gordon Jul 13, 2022

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On an unseasonably warm day in August of 1973, while a crowd of around 13,000 fans watched the North Adelaide football team play the Norwood Red Legs at the Adelaide Oval, 11-year-old Joanne Ratcliffe assisted 4-year-old Kirste Gordon to the bathroom. The girls never returned to their seats.
Although there were many witnesses, the girls have never been found. Their disappearance is one of South Australia's best-known crimes.
Join Jen & Cam ass the discuss the case and possible suspects in "Abduction at the Adelaide Oval: Joanne Ratcliffe and Kirste Gordon"
*** Correction!! Jen got one of the suspects' names backward. It should be Arthur Stanley Hart, not Stanley Arthur Hart
A reward of up to $1,000,000 AUD remains on offer to anyone who either provides information leading to the recovery of their remains or information leading to a conviction in the case.
Anyone with information is asked to contact Crime Stoppers on 1800 333 000 or at www.crimestopperssa.com.au
Promo from our friend Paige from Reverie True Crime Podcast. Make sure to subscribe!
Thanks to the OTCP team
Listener Discretion by Edward @OctoberpodVHS. You can find him on all your podcast apps or at https://www.youtube.com/c/octoberpodhomevideo
Producer and theme music by Nico Vettese
wetalkofdreams.com
Researched and written by Lauretta Allen
Sources:
https://www.doenetwork.org/cases-int/575dfsau.html
https://crimestopperssa.com.au/case/joanne-ratcliffe/
https://www.reddit.com/r/UnresolvedMysteries/comments/q9sp8f/the_disappearance_of_joanne_ratcliffe_and_kirste/
https://www.newspapers.com/image/122624709/?terms=Kirste%20Gordon%20Joanne%20Ratcliffe&match=1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kf3_U0MLs9A
https://www.newspapers.com/image/122311582/?terms=Kirste%20Gordon&match=1
https://www.newspapers.com/image/125772014/?terms=Kirste%20Gordon&match=1
https://www.newspapers.com/image/122671976/?terms=Kirste%20Gordon%20Joanne%20Ratcliffe&match=1
https://www.newspapers.com/image/121956331/?terms=Kirste%20Gordon%20Joanne%20Ratcliffe&match=1
https://www.newspapers.com/image/123019736/?terms=Kirste%20Gordon%20Joanne%20Ratcliffe&match=1
https://www.newspapers.com/image/120770130
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Adelaide_Football_Club
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adelaide_Oval

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172. Flashing Red Light: The Bridget Drobney Murder Jun 29, 2022

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In the summer of 1985, the folks in the small town of Gillespie, Illinois were shaken to their core when 16-year-old Bridget Drobney was found brutally murdered.
Three men were arrested and one, Robert Turner was sentenced to death. In January of 2003, Governor Ryan commuted all 167 of Illinois’ death row inmates to life sentences. One of those was obviously, Robert Turner. Years later, In March of 2011, Governor Pat Quinn would abolish the death penalty in the state of Illinois altogether.
In June of 2022, Turner was able to get a clemency hearing with the help of the Illinois Prison Project. The Illinois Prison Project fights for people serving “unjust, unnecessary and excessive” sentences in Illinois. If you visit their website, it says in big letters they are fighting a “system that treats people as disposable.” And while there are certainly many innocent people serving sentences in Illinois that are serving especially excessive sentences, the Drobney family feels that Robert Turner is not one of them.
Please listen to Jen & Cam as they talk about Bridget Drobney's murder and if you are like us and the Drobney family and feel that Robert Turner does not deserve clemency,
please make your voice heard.
Contact Jennifer Soble, Executive Director of Prison Release Board. Her email is PRB.Clemency@Illinois.Gov The family asks that you state that it is regarding Robert Turner IDOC No N66184.
Special thanks to Paula Lucca for talking with us about Bridget.
Thanks to the OTCP team
Listener Discretion by Edward @OctoberpodVHS. You can find him on all your podcast apps or at https://www.youtube.com/c/octoberpodhomevideo
Producer and theme music by Nico Vettese
wetalkofdreams.com
Researched and written by Rett MacPherson
Sources:
https://www.thetelegraph.com/news/article/Moreth-seeks-death-penalty-for-Turner-in-1989-12649227.php
https://www.newspapers.com/image/388401459
https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-1985-07-20-8502170328-story.html
https://apnews.com/article/f6356cf8684ba9bcba0391753f1f045b
https://www.upi.com/Archives/1986/04/10/Accused-killer-says-it-was-just-a-joke/5931513493200/
https://www.newspapers.com/image/388339586/?terms=Bridget%20Drobney&match=1
https://www.newspapers.com/image/388339586/?terms=Bridget%20Drobney&match=1
https://www.leagle.com/decision/1989668128ill2d5401642?fbclid=IwAR1P1--T0vtd-v_yjxhJr7COcEKYK40oTJ_BL9XAttATBySn8UA72Y6x_5c
https://www.newspapers.com/image/388358006/?terms=Bridget%20Drobney&match=1
https://www.newspapers.com/image/388544507/?terms=Bridget%20Drobney&match=1

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171. Mafia Murder Mystery: Johnny Boy D'Amato Jun 22, 2022

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The Mafia, the Mob, the family. It has many names but there is only one thing this organization is concerned about: money. This long-standing group has members operating from the streets hustling all the way up to corrupt government officials. In the neighborhoods they run, they are feared by some and adored by others. This family follows a set of rules demanding loyalty to each other above all else, including, well, your own family. To break these laws not only goes against what they stand for but it very well may cost a life or two. Afterall, someone must pay.
Join Jen and Cam on this episode of Our True Crime Podcast entitled ‘Mafia Murder Mystery: Johnny Boy D’Amato.’
Our listener discretion is by the amazing Edward October @octoberpodVHS
Our multi-talented editor does all our music too @wetalkofdreams
Sources:
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/mob-boss-hit-over-gay-encounters/
https://nypost.com/2003/05/01/mobster-sleeps-with-the-swishes/
https://www.fbi.gov/file-repository/mafia-family-tree.pdf/view
https://en-academic.com/dic.nsf/enwiki/9059166
https://www.thefreelibrary.com/WHY+THE+GAYFATHER+HAD+TO+BE+WHACKED%3B+Hitman+killed+homosexual+Mafia...-a0101005486
https://www.legendsofamerica.com/la-cosa-nostra/
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/63965257184500635/
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2003/may/02/usa.garyyounge
https://www.cosanostranews.com/2012/05/why-decavalcantes-hit-acting-boss.html
https://www.britannica.com/topic/Five-Families
https://www.biography.com/news/five-families-nyc-mafia
https://www.fbi.gov/file-repository/mafia-family-tree.pdf
http://www.fivefamiliesnyc.com/p/current-leadership-of-five-families.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbjfoJSMXOw
https://torontosun.com/news/world/meet-the-real-jersey-mob-decavalcantes-ruled-the-garden-state
https://nypost.com/2021/09/25/the-sopranos-was-inspired-by-this-newark-mob-family/
https://nypost.com/2021/07/17/bringing-down-the-sopranos-for-the-fbi-destroyed-my-life/

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170. Long Road To Justice: Lisa Kimmell Jun 15, 2022

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Friday, March 25th, 1988, Lisa got in her Honda and headed north. She would take Interstate 25 to Casper, Wyoming, and from there she would take the mostly two-lane US-20/26 to Greybull, where she would then finish the trip at her boyfriend's house in Cody, Wyoming, on US14. She’d planned to stay the night there and make the remaining hour-and-a-half trek to Billings the next morning with her boyfriend in tow.
When Lisa Marie didn’t arrive at Ed's house in Cody, as planned, he was immediately worried and called her parents. Lisa was nowhere to be found. She had vanished somewhere on her 600-mile journey home.
Lisa's case would go cold for 14 years until DNA would link authorities to her killer.
Join Cam and Jen as they discuss 'Long Road To Justice: Lisa Kimmell'.
Thank you to the folks who help make the OTCP great
Listener Discretion by Edward @OctoberpodVHS. You can find him on all your podcast apps or at https://www.youtube.com/c/octoberpodhomevideo
Producer and theme music by Nico Vettese
wetalkofdreams.com
Researched and written by Lauretta Allen
Sources:
The Murder of Lil Miss: A Mother's Brutal 16-Year Fight for Justice
by Sheila Kimmell
https://www.amazon.com/Murder-Lil-Miss-Mothers-16-Year/dp/0976747006/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1X49XOXGA1264&keywords=sheila+kimmell&qid=1655250436&sprefix=sheila+kimmel
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5DV-DKhqhA CrimeVault
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DW0CGco4gc TiffanyKristinaXO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqtvdTjKLG8 Scary Mysteries
https://www.strangeoutdoors.com/mysterious-stories-blog/tag/the+Great+Basin+Serial+Killer
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lil%27_Miss_murder
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/8701970/lisa-marie-kimmell
https://oilcity.news/crime/2022/03/25/convicted-murderer-dale-wayne-eaton-re-sentenced-30-years-after-disappearance-of-lisa-marie-kimmel/
https://www.ranker.com/list/lisa-marie-kimmell-facts/rachel-souerbry
https://www.wyomingpublicmedia.org/news/2013-03-04/authorities-to-investigate-new-leads-in-the-1997-disappearance-of-amy-wroe-bechtel
Billings Gazette: https://www.newspapers.com/image/415632475/?terms=Lisa%20Marie%20Kimmell&match=1

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169. The Price of Doing Business: Bob Eidman Jun 08, 2022

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Today we are going nearby to St Charles Missouri where a local businessman was found shot to death inside his office on June 8, 2007, by a postwoman. It was about 12:30 in the afternoon when she called 9-1-1 and informed the operator that the man had been shot and, she thought he was dead. As she is on the phone with 911, a police officer drives by and she flags him down. The officer enters the business and finds the man. The officer clearly identifies a gunshot to the head. The man’s name was Robert Eidman and whoever killed him did it, wanted to make sure Bob would see exactly who wanted him dead.
Join Jen and Cam on this episode of Our True Crime Podcast entitled ‘The Price of Doing Business: Bob Eidman.’
That brand new listener discretion is by the smooth-voiced Edward October from OctoberpodVHS. He is the bee’s knees.
All our music is by our wonderful executive producer and editor Nico from We Talk of Dreams.
The promo is by the podcast World’s Dumbest Criminals. If you like true crime but need something a bit lighter, make sure to check them out.
Sources:
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4623626/
https://caselaw.findlaw.com/mo-court-of-appeals/1658449.html
https://www.oxygen.com/in-ice-cold-blood/crime-time/insurance-salesman-bob-eidman-office-murder-solved-dna
https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/stcharles/man-who-murdered-st-charles-insurance-agent-sentenced-to-two-life-terms/article_d1193768-0104-11e2-8557-0019bb30f31a.html
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/19832766/robert-louis-eidman
https://www.monstersandcritics.com/tv/true-crime/
https://6park.news/missouri/murder-of-robert-eidman-by-cleo-hines-and-paul-white-examined-in-a-time-to-kill.htmlmurder-of-robert-eidman-by-cleo-hines-and-paul-white-examined-on-a-time-to-kill/
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https://patch.com/missouri/stcharles/paul-c-white-sentenced-to-x-in-murder-of-st-peters-man

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168. Made The Devil Do It: The Speed Freak Killers Jun 01, 2022

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On a flat and lonely stretch of highway in San Joaquin County, California, in February of 2012, onlookers were horrified as a backhoe violently tore into an abandoned well, nicknamed "Loren's Boneyard." The giant claws of the backhoe rose out of the ground holding a massive amount of dirt and the skeletal remains of the victims buried within—the victims presumably of Loren Herzog and Wesley Shermantine, AKA The Speed Freak Killers. While only convicted of murdering four people, they are suspected of murdering upward of 72 people.
Join Cam & Jen as we discuss 'Made The Devil Do It: The Speed Freak Killers'.
Listener Discretion by Edward October of OctoberpodVHS
https://www.youtube.com/c/octoberpodhomevideo
Producer and Music by Nico Vettese
wetalkofdreams.com
Written & Researched by Rett MacPherson
https://www.amazon.com/Rett-MacPherson/e/B000APPJ6A?ref=sr_ntt_srch_lnk_1&qid=1654048621&sr=8-1
SOURCES:
https://charleyproject.org/case/chevelle-yvonne-wheeler
https://charleyproject.org/case/cynthia-ann-vanderheiden
https://charleyproject.org/case/joann-hobson
https://charleyproject.org/case/tracy-diane-melton
https://mail.murderpedia.org/male.S/s/shermantine-wesley.htm
https://mail.murderpedia.org/male.H/h/herzog-loren-joseph.htm
https://www.kcra.com/article/hobson-family-sues-s-j-sheriff-over-linden-dig/6402318
https://www.sky.com/watch/channel/sky-crime/dateline/episodes/season-1/episode-3
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speed_Freak_Killers
https://allthatsinteresting.com/speed-killers
https://www.courthousenews.com/county-must-face-claims-handling-mass-murder-grave/
https://www.mercurynews.com/2012/03/06/speed-freak-killers-cause-of-death-deep-anger-revealed/
https://www.thoughtco.com/wesley-shermantine-and-loren-herzog-973133
https://www.recordnet.com/story/news/2012/02/18/8216-blood-money-upsets/49731909007/
https://sacramento.cbslocal.com/photo-galleries/2012/02/13/speed-freak-killers-victims-and-possible-victims/

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