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186. Gatekeeper of Hell: Pazuzu Algarad Oct 19, 2022

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Today's episode is a Listener Request! Thanks to Christina Young for her request.
Big thanks to Wondery and The Generation Why Podcast for sponsoring this episode Make sure you go listen to Justin and Aaron. They are amazing.
Down the road from Costco, past the Hobby Lobby, and the Chick-fil-A. stood a home on Knob Hill Drive that was in stark contrast to its surroundings. It was filthy and run-down, with a stench that assaulted people before they even reached the front porch.
Once you made it to the porch, visitors were welcomed with a black door covered with symbols of a skull, crossbones, and an inverted cross. A community watch area sign warned that police were not welcome. “Evil Will Triumph” was written in bold white capital letters.
This was the home of Pazuzu Algarad. A self-proclaimed satanist who filed his teeth to sharp points and drank the blood of animals during the “dark moon.” He allowed—and even encouraged—people to engage in drug use, orgies, and murder, in his own home.
He's also was responsible for the deaths of Joshua Frederick Wetzler and Tommy Dean Welch, along with being convicted for accessory after the fact for the death of Joseph Emmrick Chandler.
Join Jen and Cam as they discuss The Gatekeeper of Hell: Pazuzu Algarad
Promo by OctoberpodVHS- Check out his Halloween Potluck episode now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aluYQB0t3bY
A big thank you to our team:
Listener Discretion by Edward @OctoberpodVHS. You can find him on all your podcast apps or at https://www.youtube.com/c/octoberpodhomevideo
Producer and theme music by Nico Vettese
wetalkofdreams.com
Researched and written by Lauretta Allen
Sources:
https://journalnow.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/an-evil-anniversary-the-pazuzu-algarad-case-broke-7-years-ago/collection_292ce4e8-2c4a-11ec-8ee9-4b12c64e7c9a.html#17
https://allthatsinteresting.com/pazuzu-algarad
https://www.investigationdiscovery.com/crimefeed/crime-history/who-is-suburban-satanist-pazuzu-algarad-and-what-is-he-known-for
https://en.celebrity.tn/what-happened-to-pazuzus-mother/
https://www.fox43.com/article/news/local/contests/creepy-human-remains-animal-sacrificing-take-a-look-inside-the-home-of-a-devil-worshiper/521-1ed95e6b-0dd6-4ca0-9e78-8a7ca0033f73
https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/B07X3Y57J8/ref=atv_hm_hom_1_c_lZOsi7_2_4
https://www.newspapers.com/image/legacy/645993345/?terms=Pazuzu%20Algarad&match=1

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185. Children of Thunder: Cult of Killers Oct 12, 2022

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We are headed to a small town named Woodacre which is located right outside of San Francisco, California. It is Marin County which is beautiful if you have never been there, truly postcard pretty. The town is a small community where the center of the action is a bar named The Paper Mill Saloon where the locals meet to catch up and unwind. Bartender Jennifer Villarin worked hard to make all the patrons welcome. It was August 2nd, 2000 and Jim had brought Jenny dinner and Jenny closed up the bar around 11 pm. The two made their way home. It was right around 5 am when the neighborhood heard gunshots ring out. The police were called to the residence and arrived on the scene to discover two people had been shot and killed. The studio apartment was located behind a house, meaning that the killer had to know that an apartment was located. Jim Gamble's body was on the ground next to the bed as if he got out of bed when he was shot. Jenny was in bed. Both had no clothes on. The only evidence that they found was 9 mm-caliber gunshot shells which they believe came from a semi-automatic pistol. Two were used for Jenny and four were used for Jim. The community was in shock as no one could imagine killing this much loved couple. Before all is said and done, there would be five victims and a bizarre tale of worship, fraud and murder.
Join Jen and Cam on this episode of Our True Crime Podcast entitled “Children of Thunder: Cult Killers.”
Listener discretion is by our bestie @octoberpodVHS
All music is done by our other bestie and executive producer Nico @wetalkofdreams
Promo this week is by our friends at TSFU podcast. @https://tsfuthepodcast.com
Sources:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/a-nude-model-five-bodies-and-the-mormon-assassination-plot-attempt-732255.html
http://articles.latimes.com/2000/aug/11/news/mn-2726
https://www.sfgate.com/crime/article/Justin-Helzer-hangs-himself-in-prison-4436354.php
https://people.com/crime/helzer-brothers-stockbroker-turned-cult-killer-people-magazine-investigates/
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/guitarists-daughter-linked-to-plot/
https://www.karisable.com/crhelzer.htm
https://murderpedia.org/male.H/h/helzer-brothers.htm
http://serialkillersink.net/skistore/glenn-helzer-children-of-thunder-cult-handwritten-letter-and-envelope-rare.html?set_language=en-US
https://www.mercurynews.com/2010/01/22/justin-helzer-attempts-death-row-suicide-by-jamming-pens-in-his-eyes/
https://www.eastbaytimes.com/2010/02/05/justin-helzer-back-in-prison-after-suicide-try/

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184. Bellevue Murders: The Wilson Family Oct 05, 2022

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On January 4th, 1997, two eight-year-old boys were playing in the park
when they came upon what they thought was a pile of clothing. When they
realized it was a body, they ran to tell their parents, who immediately
called the police.
After identifying the body as twenty-year-old Kim Wilson, police go to the Wilson residence to notify her family. When Detective Gomes arrived at the house, he saw cars in the driveway and all the Christmas lights twinkling, but no one answered the door. Walking around the house, he noticed the sliding door was ajar. Detective Gomes goes in prepared for a robbery; he is shocked to find the rest of Kim's family was killed in a brutal attack.
Join Jen and Cam as we discuss the Bellevue Murders: The Wilson Family.
Promo by Missing Persons Podcast
A big thank you to our team:
Listener Discretion by Edward @OctoberpodVHS. You can find him on all your podcast apps or at https://www.youtube.com/c/octoberpodhomevideo
Producer and theme music by Nico Vettese
wetalkofdreams.com
Researched and written by Lauretta Allen
Sources:
https://archive.seattletimes.com/archive/?date=19970108&slug=2517720
https://www.swordandscale.com/the-wilson-family-murders/
https://groups.google.com/g/alt.true-crime/c/EcUronujstY?pli=1
http://www.crimemagazine.com/gothic-murders-0
https://www.investigationdiscovery.com/video/the-real-story-with-maria-elena-salinas-investigation-discovery/a-parents-nightmare
https://archive.seattletimes.com/archive/?date=19970116&slug=2519043
https://www.sentencingproject.org/publications/juvenile-life-without-parole/
https://www.newspapers.com/image/legacy/805503046/?terms=Alex%20Baranyi&match=1
https://www.newspapers.com/image/legacy/201862385/?terms=Alex%20Baranyi&match=1
https://www.newspapers.com/image/legacy/503547838/?terms=Alex%20Baranyi&match=1
https://www.newspapers.com/image/legacy/201861224/?terms=Alex%20Baranyi&match=1
https://www.newspapers.com/image/legacy/740517637/?terms=Alex%20Baranyi&match=1
https://www.newspapers.com/image/legacy/805533107/?terms=Alex%20Baranyi&match=1
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183. Little Girls Lost: The Lyon Sisters Sep 28, 2022

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It is a parent’s worst nightmare. The abduction of a child is more than traumatic but what if two of your children simply disappeared. That is precisely what happened on March 25, 1975, when 12-year-old Sheila Lyon and her little sister, 10-year-old Katherine departed from their home to walk ½ mile to the local shopping mall in Wheaton, Maryland, a suburb of Washington, DC. The girls made it to the mall but never made it home, they would never be seen again. This case has many twists and turns, but a dogged investigator and his team refused to give up. This is the story of The Lyon Sisters.
Join Jen and Cam on this episode of Our True Crime Podcast entitled “Little Girls Lost: The Lyon Sisters.”
Listener discretion by the remarkably talented Edward October from @octoberpodVHS
All music is by our fabulous executive producer Nico @wetalkofdreams
A big thanks to Mark Bowden and his book The Last Stone which did a great job telling the story of Katie and Sheila Lyon. Get it wherever you get your books or on Amazon as a Kindle or Audible edition.
Sources:
Bowden, Mark (April 2, 2019). The Last Stone. New York: Atlantic Monthly Press, an imprint of Grove/Atlantic. ISBN 9780802147301.
https://www.amazon.com/Last-Stone-Masterpiece-Criminal-Interrogation/dp/0802147305
‘Who Killed the Lyon Sisters” https://www.imdb.com/title/tt13370308/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/magazine/wp/2019/04/01/feature/the-lyon-sisters-had-vanished-40-years-earlier-but-this-cold-case-team-didnt-give-up-on-them/
https://wtop.com/local/2017/03/the-investigation-continues-lyon-sisters/
http://wtop.com/local/2015/07/after-indictment-new-information-expected-in-lyon-sisters-disappearance/slide/1/
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/lyon-sisters-case-lloyd-lee-welch-pleads-guilty-to-1975-murders-of-2-maryland-girls/
http://wset.com/news/local/man-pleads-guilty-to-murdering-lyon-sisters-in-1975
https://web.archive.org/web/20071001001513/https://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/washingtonpost_historical/access/143626632.html?dids=143626632:143626632&FMT=ABS&FMTS=ABS:AI&date=May+23%2C+1975&author=By+Deborah+Sue+YaegerWashington+Post+Staff+Writer&pub=The+Washington+Post++(1974-Current+file)&edition=&startpage=B1&desc=Md.+Guardsmen+to+Join+Hunt+for+Lyon+Sisters
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/crime/investigators-prepare-announcement-in-1975-missing-girls-case/2015/07/14/2ca2e68c-2a2f-11e5-a250-42bd812efc09_story.html

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182. Ramona Wilson, MMIWG and the Highway of Tears Sep 21, 2022

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Situated in the middle of a wild and beautiful outdoor playground, the town of
Smithers, British Columbia, Canada, rests at the foot of the luminous Hudson Bay
Mountain. The town is located halfway between Prince George and Prince Rupert along
the 450-mile evergreen-lined Highway 16. Currently, most of the inhabitants of Smithers
are of European descent. The First Nations people, notably the Wet’suwet’en, called this land home for thousands of years. Now there are only about 8% of the current population are First Nations people.
And even though the entire area of the Bulkley Valley is untamed, wild, and
peacefully scenic, there is another, darker side of the valley. All along Highway 16 are
billboards with the following warning: Girls Don’t Hitchhike on the Highway of Tears.
Killer on the Loose.
Ramona Wilson was sixteen and a member of the Gitxsan nation. She was looking forward to going to a dance with several of her friends on a cool and calm evening in June of 1994, but she never made it to the dance. She simply vanished into the inky-blue twilight.
Unfortunately, she's not the only one.
Join Cam & Jen as we discuss Ramona Wilson, MMIWG, and the Highway of Tears.
If you have any info about Ramona Wilson or any of the other 18 women mentioned in this episode, please call the British Columbia Crimestoppers at 1-800-222-8477.
Promo from Murder in My Family
Thanks to the OTCP team
Listener Discretion by Edward @OctoberpodVHS.
You can find him on all your podcast apps or at https://www.youtube.com/c/octoberpodhomevideo
Producer and theme music by Nico Vettese
wetalkofdreams.com
Researched and written by Lauretta Allen
Sources:
https://www.cbc.ca/missingandmurdered/mmiw/profiles/ramona-lisa-wilson
https://zeph456.medium.com/who-killed-ramona-wilson-650858327d16
https://thehueandcry.com/ramona-wilson
https://www.todayinbc.com/news/ramona-wilson-memorial-walk-twenty-five-years-but-still-no-closure/
https://hazlitt.net/feature/death-and-afterlife-ramona-wilson
http://www.justicefornativewomen.com/2016/05/the-unsolved-murder-of-ramona-wilson.html?m=1
https://www.interior-news.com/news/ramona-wilson-parade-marks-26th-anniversary-of-teens-disappearance/
https://www.interior-news.com/news/ramona-wilson-memorial-walk-twenty-five-years-but-still-no-closure/
https://www.cbc.ca/missingandmurdered/mmiw/profiles/ramona-lisa-wilson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsZkus8Rsmg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTW67EMWHu4&t=931s
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/141655028/ramona-lisa-wilson
https://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cc-afn/wilson-ramona-eng.htm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Highway_of_Tears
https://www.cftktv.com/27th-annual-ramona-wilson-memorial-walk-held-in-smithers-1.5470349
https://about.rogers.com/news-ideas/working-together-to-support-safe-passage-along-the-highway-of-tears-for-indigenous-women-like-ramona-lisa-wilson/
https://www.mmiwg-ffada.ca/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/20181128_MMIWG_Prince_George_B._Wilson_Statement_Vol_602_Public.pdf
https://globalnews.ca/news/1447495/bc-crimestoppers-the-case-of-missing-16-year-old-ramona-wilson-of-smithers/
https://www.tv-eh.com/2016/09/16/taken-highway-of-tears-ramona-wilson-and-alberta-williams/
https://www.wcls.org/book-buzz-highway-of-tears/
https://www.oas.org/en/iachr/reports/pdfs/indigenous-women-bc-canada-en.pdf
https://www.newspapers.com/image/legacy/508837116/?terms=Ramona%20Wilson&match=1
https://www.newspapers.com/image/legacy/508837781/?terms=Ramona%20Wilson&match=1
https://www.newspapers.com/image/legacy/508830047/?terms=Ramona%20Wilson&match=1
https://www.newspapers.com/image/legacy/508833476/?terms=Ramona%20Wilson&match=1

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181. The Missing Girls: Ashley Pond and Miranda Gaddis Sep 14, 2022

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It is Jan. 9, 2002, in Oregon City, Oregon, 12-year-old Ashley Pond left her home to walk to the bus stop for Gardiner Middle School. Ashley was hurrying as she was going to be late and miss the bus stop located approximately 10 minutes from her home. Ashley was popular in school but what she loved most was dance. She was on the school’s dance team, The Fallen Angels. The team would be rehearsing that day for the big competition they had coming up. Since she was late, Ashley started running as she didn’t want to miss school. Little did her loved ones know, that she would never make it to the bus nor arrive at school. Ashley simply disappeared and she would not be the only one.
Join Jen and Cam on this episode of ‘Our True Crime Podcast entitled The Missing Girls: Ashley Pond and Miranda Gaddis.
Listener Discretion by @octoberpodVHS
Music and EP by @wetalkofdreams
Sources:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXnb_6jvg3c
https://unsolvedmysteries.fandom.com/wiki/Miranda_Gaddis_and_Ashley_Pond
https://pamplinmedia.com/pt/9-news/503896-402986-potential-news-for-convicted-murderers-in-weaver-family
https://www.californiabirthindex.org/birth/ward_f_weaver_born_1963_8641619
https://thecinemaholic.com/ashley-pond-and-miranda-gaddis-murders-where-is-ward-weaver-now/
https://www.oregonlive.com/oregon-city/2014/02/ward_weaver_iii_like_his_fathe.html
http://thetribonline.com/news/story.php?story_id=26369
http://articles.latimes.com/2003/jun/28/science/sci-weaver28
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/step-by-step-in-oregon-killer-case/
http://articles.latimes.com/2002/mar/14/news/mn-32788
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/2216310.stm
http://www.oregonlive.com/clackamascounty/index.ssf/2014/06/prosecutors_to_present_case_ag.html
https://web.archive.org/web/20110707161918/http://www.argusobserver.com/articles/2007/05/07/news/news03.txt
O'Neal, Linda; Watson, Rick; Tennyson, Philip (2007). The Missing Girls: A Shocking True Story of Abduction and Murder. Macmillan. ISBN 978-0-312-94161-1.

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SPECIAL: Our Precious Hope Revisited: St. Louis' Little Jane Doe Sep 12, 2022

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Back in 2018, we covered this case with our first episode of The 12 Nightmares Before Christmas. It is the most infamous unsolved murder in the state of Missouri. The case is open, and the child's identity is still unknown.
It was February 1983 when two men entered the basement of 5635 Clemens Avenue, a derelict and vacant apartment building in northwest St. Louis, and stumble upon a grisly scene that would haunt the authorities and the community for years.
The 40th year anniversary is upon us, and a St. Louis local is fighting to get St Louis’ Jane Doe, known as Precious Hope, not only her name but the justice she deserves.
Listen now on this special Our True Crime Podcast episode as we speak to Edrar ‘Bird’ Sosa, director of the documentary “Our Previous Hope Revisited: St Louis’ Jane Doe,” which is premiering on Amazon Prime on September 15, 2022.
IMDB info: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt21662982/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0

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180. Hell Ride: The Murder of Hannah Cornelius Sep 07, 2022

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****Content Warning**** Sexual Assault****
Cape Town, South Africa: In the early hours of May 27, 2017, Hannah Cornelius drove her friend Cheslin Marsh home after a night out. Before Cheslin could say goodbye, four men hijacked the car at knifepoint and kidnapped the two Stellenbosch University students.
Cheslin was beaten with bricks and left to die. The gang members brutally assaulted Hannah and then murdered her in a senseless, brutal, and barbaric attack.
The gang members would then go on a crime spree in Hannah's car until the police finally caught them.
Please join Cam and Jen as we discuss Hell Ride: Hannah Cornelius.
**Jen apologizes in advance if she pronounced anything incorrectly. She really tried!
A HUGE thank you to Nicole from True Crime South Africa for helping us get the court documents.
Thanks to the OTCP team
Listener Discretion by Edward @OctoberpodVHS. You can find him on all your podcast apps or at https://www.youtube.com/c/octoberpodhomevideo
Producer and theme music by Nico Vettese
wetalkofdreams.com
Researched and written by Lauretta Allen
Sources:
The foundation was set up in Hannah’s name by her mother, Anna.
https://hcfoundation.org.za/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USfgKniVtWY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zUD-60cW-E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_PUy_jZNMY
https://www.news24.com/News24/breaking-life-sentences-for-3-found-guilty-of-hannah-cornelius-rape-murder-20181112
https://www.thefreelibrary.com/Hannah+Cornelius+murder%3A+All+we+know+after+kidnapped+student+is...-a0560179357
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/crime/hannah-cornelius-death-killers-documentary-26623496
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUOHEN3cvoI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_PUy_jZNMY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8KmB2MiU6g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6E3cEMDCbRM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orBfyTErUCM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6w0Fl2OtIY
https://www.news24.com/News24/breaking-life-sentences-for-3-found-guilty-of-hannah-cornelius-rape-murder-20181112

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179. Fighting for Katie Palmer: An Interview with John Palmer Aug 24, 2022

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Earlier this month, Cam and Jen sat down with John Palmer and discussed the tragic accident that took his wife Katie's life.
April 21st, 2020, in Denison, Texas, situated on the border of Oklahoma. Thirty-eight-year-old Katie Palmer decided to take an early morning walk with her husband, John Palmer, hoping to see the nesting spot for a bird known as a killdeer.
As the couple was returning home, they walked along Glenwood Drive at 7:45 A.M, on the left-hand side, facing the traffic, as pedestrians are supposed to do in Texas. Glenwood Drive also did not have dividing paint lines; it’s just an open road where drivers know to stay on their side. It’s wide, it’s flat, and there is nothing on it to hinder a person’s view. The sightline is over 600 feet, and the maximum speed limit is 30 miles per hour.
About 1/5th of a mile from their home, a Ford F-250 pickup truck crossed from the right-hand side of the road to the left-hand side of the road and struck Katie and John as they were walking. The vehicle struck Katie and Josh with such force that it knocked them out of their shoes. Katie landed 75 feet away, and John landed 70 feet away. For a little context, 75 feet is equivalent to the height of a six to seven-story building. Katie wouldn't survive.
The driver of the truck, a neighbor named Cory Foster, has a driving record filled with DUIs, speeding, and reckless driving, yet he was able to walk away from this scot-free.
Everything about Katie's case has been mishandled. Trust us, it will get your blood boiling.
Thank you to John Palmer for coming to the show. We know the road to justice is exhausting, but we will stand beside you in your journey and fight.
Please go to the following links for more information and updates on Katie's case.
Justice For Katie Palmer Facebook page.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/369021997579713
Justice For Katie Palmer website
https://justiceforkatiepalmer.com/
Justice For Katie Palmer on Twitter
@for_palmer
If you would like to donate in Katie's name:
The Katie Palmer Project: https://katiepalmerproject.com/
Hagerman National Wildlife Reserve: https://friendsofhagerman.com/Donate/