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156. Die, My Daughter, Die: The Murder of Tina Isa Mar 09, 2022

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On the night of November 5, 1989, first responders arrived at the 3700 block of Delor St in St Louis, Missouri. Inside of an apartment, next to two bloody knives, lay the body of 16-year-old Tina Isa. Tina's father said that he had killed her in self-defense.
Police would learn Tina's father, Zein Isa, was a suspected ringleader of a Palestinian terrorist cell and had been under the watchful eye and ear of the FBI. The Isa's house had been bugged for some time and Tina's abuse and murder had been caught on tape.
Join Cam and Jen as we talk about Die, My Daughter, Die: The Murder of Tina Isa.
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Edward October @OctoberpodVHS for our listener discretion. Please take a listen to him on YouTube! https://www.youtube.com/c/octoberpodhomevideo
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Eileen MacFarlane of @Crimelapse researched and wrote today's episode. Jen would be lost without her.
Promo is from our friends a Crime Trials Podcast.
Sources:
https://stlouispatina.com/north-st-louis/
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https://amp.southcoasttoday.com/amp/50334837007
https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-1993-06-13-9306130207-story.html
850 S.W.2d 876 (1993), STATE of Missouri, Respondent, v. Maria ISA, Appellant., No. 74479. - https://law.justia.com/cases/missouri/supreme-court/1993/74479-0.html
"Girl, 16, Slain By Father'She Came At Me' He Tells Police." St. Louis Post-Dispatch, November 7, 1989: 1A. NewsBank: Access World News. https://infoweb.newsbank.com/apps/news/document-view?p=AWNB&docref=news/0EB04C61203C3751.
"Man Charged In Killing Of Daughter." St. Louis Post-Dispatch, November 8, 1989: 3A. NewsBank: Access World News. https://infoweb.newsbank.com/apps/news/document-view?p=AWNB&docref=news/0EB04C61961FD9A3.
"Dead Girl Abused,School Told State." St. Louis Post-Dispatch, November 9, 1989: 4C. NewsBank: Access World News. https://infoweb.newsbank.com/apps/news/document-view?p=AWNB&docref=news/0EB04C61E4A53BFB.
"Woman Joins Husband As Suspect In Daughter's Fatal Stabbing." St. Louis Post-Dispatch, December 1, 1989: 5b. NewsBank: Access World News.

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155. Hudler Tree Farm Horror Mar 02, 2022

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Today we are going to the southern United States to a town named Grassy Creek, North Carolina. It is home to a very well-known and recognized Christmas tree farm. It is January 24, 2008, right before noon, when a panicked call comes into 911 describing a most heinous scene at the Hudler tree farm. The caller explains there are two people who have been shot. Police are dispatched to the farm, and once on scene, investigators would find three bodies and a trail of clues. Since the family is so well admired and loved, no one can think of anyone that would do them any harm. What authorities would discover is a person who was well acquainted with murder.
Join Jen and Cam on this episode of Our True Crime Podcast entitled ‘Hudler Farm Horror.’
As always, our listener discretion is by the smooth sounding Edward October from @octoberpodVHS
Our music is by our more than awesome Nico @wetalkofdreams
Make sure to listen to a promo from Coffee and Cases @coffeeandcases
Sources:
https://swvatoday.com/news/article_7b9e45cc-a9f6-5e43-976a-173aef7207c4.html
https://www.inquirer.com/philly/news/20090809_He_got_away_with_murder__then_kept_killing.html#:~:text=The%20spot%20had%20been%20identified,Ashe%20County%20Sheriff%20James%20D.
https://www.independencedeclaration.com/content/letter-hammer%E2%80%99s-attorney-could-help-him-receive-yet-another-murder-charge
https://journalnow.com/news/local/family-of-freddie-hammers-murder-victim-awarded-14-9-million/article_b75b6432-c737-534c-99ce-64c93d321abc.html
https://journalnow.com/hammer-admits-killings-gets-7-life-sentences/article_bd09d014-630a-5fa4-8c85-c8e6ca0e25bf.html
https://heraldcourier.com/news/freddie-hammer-confesses-to-more-murders/video_ef117406-4427-5bc3-876c-cf67c250c4d0.html
https://richmond.com/news/freddie-hammer-confesses-to-more-murders/article_c090d56a-7e53-5a66-acb6-a2a56ed4e251.html
https://www.galaxgazette.com/content/hammer-pleads-guilty-another-murder
https://www.galaxgazette.com/content/tv-show-air-episode-hammer-murders
https://journalnow.com/jimmy-disappears-suspicions-about-freddie-hammer-intensify-but-evidence-of-wrongdoing-isnt-there/article_1101711b-8e01-53bb-a705-8e241bb618f0.html
https://journalnow.com/trial-date-postponed-for-freddie-hammer/article_7fd73874-60ba-5d9f-a549-0c12b88eb05a.html

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154. The Pottery Cottage Murders Feb 23, 2022

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The second week of 1977, England saw the coldest January in 14 years.
Low pressure carried from northern Europe brought heavy snowfall across the UK.
On January 12th, 1977, 28-year-old Billy Hughes was to appear at Chesterfield Magistrates Court on charges of rape and assault.
Hughes had other plans. He wasn't going back to prison no matter what the cost. Pulling a stolen knife out from his boots, Billy stabs the guards, orders them out of the car, and makes his escape. Due to high speed and cold, wet roads, he crashed the car. Hughes wasted no time running across the moors in search of a place to hide.
As police officers were scrambling to find him with the help of sniffer dogs, Hughes had stumbled upon a house called Pottery Cottage, isolated in rural Eastmoor.
Hughes would hold a family of five hostage for the next few days. Only one would survive.
Join Cam and Jen as they discuss the Pottery Cottage Murders. Thank you to our friend and listener Louise for requesting this case.
*****Warning***** Jen talks about an oven fire and if she should thro flour on the flames. DO NOT do this. The flour will catch fire and make things worse. This was bad advice that was passed down to her. Be safe. Thank you Neville for correcting us.
Edward from OctoberpodVHS voices our listener discretion.
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Researched and written by Eileen MacFarlane
Nico from wetalkofdreams.com is our producer in charge of sound and editing.
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Sources:
Newsbank
Daily Mail (London, England), August 28, 1999: 16. NewsBank: Access World News. https://infoweb.newsbank.com/apps/news/document-view?p=AWNB&docref=news/1787D5CA1A40EAB0.
Independent, The/The Independent on Sunday: Web Edition Articles (London, England), March 24, 2017. NewsBank: Access World News. https://infoweb.newsbank.com/apps/news/document-view?p=AWNB&docref=news/1665BF5247AA91F8.
Derbyshire Times (England), May 17, 2017. NewsBank: Access World News. https://infoweb.newsbank.com/apps/news/document-view?p=AWNB&docref=news/164720CDD2F2BD10.
Derby Telegraph (England), November 23, 2017: 6-7. NewsBank: Access World News. https://infoweb.newsbank.com/apps/news/document-view?p=AWNB&docref=news/1685794905694CB8.
Daily Mail, The/The Mail on Sunday (London, England) (London, England), February 29, 2020: 53. NewsBank: Access World News. https://infoweb.newsbank.com/apps/news/document-view?p=AWNB&docref=image/v2%3A1754FD5BCC041490%40AWNB-1796685B8BD41210%402458909-179668A82DFD90D8%4052.
Daily Mail (London, England), March 2, 2020: 30,31,32. NewsBank: Access World News. https://infoweb.newsbank.com/apps/news/document-view?p=AWNB&docref=news/17975D211D5FB2F8.
Daily Mail, The/The Mail on Sunday (London, England) (London, England), March 3, 2020: 28. NewsBank: Access World News.

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153. Dead Side Manner-Dr. Dale Cavaness Feb 16, 2022

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Today we are venturing back to a time when small towns had small-town doctors. These doctors were not only fixtures of the community, these men and women made house calls and knew all their patients and all their ailments. If Mr. Smith couldn’t pay, no problem. If Mrs. Robert’s’ infant spiked a fever, the doctor would be there within the hour. Doctors took an oath. ‘first do no harm’ but maybe just maybe not all doctors are good. In fact, maybe there are a few doctors whose bedside manner is more like dead side manner. This is one such doctor.
Join Jen and Cam as we discuss ‘Dead Side Manner: Dr. Dale Cavaness’ on this episode of Our True Crime Podcast.
The listener discretion is courtesy of our friend Edward October from @octoberpodVHS
The music is by our executive producer Nico @wetalkofdreams
Sources:
Murder in Little Egypt by Darcy O’Brien
https://discover.hubpages.com/politics/Dr-John-Dale-Cavaness
https://www.themidwestcrimefiles.com/post/the-deadly-doctor-of-eldorado
https://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/illinois-doctor-killed-2-sons-collect-insurance-money-article-1.2490995
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1986-01-06-mn-13464-story.html
https://thesouthern.com/news/years-after-killings-dr-cavaness-remembered-differently/article_6c59c547-3ac8-5672-bffa-085c4b48c22b.html
https://mysteryu.com/high-cost-life-insurance/8/
https://www.upi.com/Archives/1986/11/17/Cavaness-kills-himself-on-death-row/1293532587600/

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152. A House of Horrors : Lisa Steinberg and Hedda Nussbaum Feb 09, 2022

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On November 2nd, 1987, paramedics responded to a 911 call about an unresponsive 6-year-old Lisa.
Upon arrival at the Greenwich Village apartment in New York, they found the little girl unconscious and nude on the floor.
The apartment was filthy, and another child, a 16-month-old little boy, was found tied to a playpen by a rope around his waist. He was lying in his own filth with spoiled milk available for him to drink.
When investigators speak with the parents, Joel Steinberg and his common-law wife, Hedda Nussbaum, they realize the kids weren't the only ones that suffered abuse.
Join Cam and Jen as we talk about A House of Horrors: Lisa Steinberg and Hedda Nussbaum
If you or someone you know is a victim of domestic violence, please call
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Listener Discretion by @OctoberpodVHS.
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Producer and theme music by Nico Vettese @wetalksofdreams. He's one of the best young composers out there.
Research and writing by Eileen MacFarlane. She's amazing!
Due to the number of sources, they cannot all be listed here.
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151. Off the Leash: John Helble & Keisha Feb 02, 2022

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We are headed to North Liberty, Iowa, population 18,000 plus. This Midwest town is not unlike others. Most of the members know each other where they work and live together. It is February 1999, When one of their own, is murdered in his home, the community is stunned. With little to no evidence, investigators look to an unusual witness and hope, even though she can’t speak, she will lead them to the killer.
Join Jen and Cam on Our True Crime Podcast as we discuss ‘Off the Leash: John Helble and Keisha.’
As always our listener discretion is by the omniscient @octoberpodVHS.
All our music as well as the show executive producer is none other than Nico @wetalkofdreams.
Sources:
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2609150/
https://www.woofersandco.com/blogs/unleashed/the-dog-who-helped-catch-a-killer
https://trib.com/news/state-and-regional/wyo-man-pleads-guilty-in-iowa/article_ca1131d3-d08a-5be6-96df-b1e374288bea.html
https://medium.com/the-criminalist/mans-dog-helps-to-catch-his-killer-adcd045e7ab4
https://kileystruecrime.squarespace.com/kileystruecrimeaddict-blog/the-murder-of-john-helble
https://quizlet.com/452196425/hair-and-fiber-analysis-flash-cards/
https://ceadstorage.blob.core.windows.net/cead-images/NewsReportreRich.pdf
https://medium.com/the-criminalist/mans-dog-helps-to-catch-his-killer-adcd045e7ab4

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150. Still Waters: The Murder of Larry Isenberg Jan 26, 2022

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Around 10:25 AM on February 13th, 2018, a 911 call came in on Lake Couer d’Alene in Idaho.
The woman identified herself as Lori Isenberg, told the dispatcher;
“I need help. I’m on the lake but I don’t know where. My husband has had a stroke and he fell over ...he fell overboard”
That same morning, many of the couple's friends and neighbors would be opening the local paper to discover Lori was leading a double life.
Join Cam and Jen as we discuss Still Waters: The Murder of Larry Isenberg
A thank you to those that helped us put this episode together!
Researched and written by the talented Eileen MacFarlane
Listener Discretion by the master of horror Edward OctoberpodVHS
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Producer and editing by the one and only Nico Vettese
Promo by Weird Distractions! Go check them out!
Resources
Find the complete list on ourtruecrimepodcast.com
https://www.justice.gov/usao-id/pr/lori-isenberg-pleads-guilty-over-570000-wire-fraud-and-federal-program-theft
https://www.inlander.com/spokane/a-north-idaho-womans-husband-is-dead-and-she-is-on-the-lam-wanted-for-allegedly-embezzling-half-a-million-dollars/Content?oid=10210637
https://www.khq.com/news/new-court-documents-show-north-idaho-man-may-have-been-murdered/article_561fb668-d783-5565-bf41-206e4fde8a78.html
https://www.khq.com/news/500k-bench-warrant-issued-for-lori-isenberg-after-missing-2nd-arraignment/article_92bde7c4-34a0-53bf-a3be-7ed79a889cb1.html
https://www.idahostatesman.com/news/northwest/idaho/article240786156.html
https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2019/mar/04/kootenai-county-detectives-want-to-interview-frien/
https://apnews.com/article/coeur-dalene-spokane-idaho-7e7b0875f8863fcad010935545e0e60d
https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2021/may/24/isenberg-sentenced-to-life-for-drugging-husband-on/
https://www.eastidahonews.com/2021/05/i-knew-my-life-was-over-idaho-woman-gets-life-in-prison-for-murdering-husband-with-medicine/
https://www.eastidahonews.com/2020/03/idaho-woman-indicted-for-murder-in-connection-to-the-2018-death-of-her-husband/

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149. Gaming, Obsession and Murder: Daniel Petric Jan 12, 2022

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It is October 20, 2007, when a woman calls 911. She is hysterical and crying, barely able to get out the words. She relays to the operator that when she got to her parent's house, she found her mother shot, her father shot, and her brother home and unharmed. Police rush to the scene, but as they are heading to the crime scene, 16-year-old Daniel jumps in his parent's car and takes off. Soon a chase erupts, but Daniel loses control of the vehicle, and officers contain him. Daniel tells officers that his father shot his mother and then turned the gun on himself. Daniel is crying and is put into the patrol car until officers can figure out what just happened. With confusion and adrenaline, no one knows what just occurred, but someone is responsible, and that person is the one no one would suspect, but the reason is even more unbelievable.
Join Jen and Cam on this episode of Our True Crime Podcast entitled ‘Gaming, Obsession, and Murder: Daniel Petric.
LD is by the man who does it best Edward October from @octoberpodVHS
The music is done by our executive producer Nico @wetalkofdreams
Sources:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7826663.stm
https://www.cleveland.com/metro/2009/01/_lorain_lorain_county.html
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/game-over-for-teen-who-killed-mother-over-video-gamehttps://www.cleveland.com/metro/2009/06/lorain_county_teen_who_killed.html
https://www.cleveland.com/metro/2008/12/trial_of_boy_accused_of_killin.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Petric
https://www.cleveland.com/metro/2008/12/boy_killed_mom_and_shot_dad_ov.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQH9N5SCDX4
Signs of a Psychopath: Season 2, EP 5.
https://thecinemaholic.com/where-is-daniel-petric-now/

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The Duisburg Man-Eater: Joachim Kroll Day 12 The 12 Nightmare Before Christmas Dec 24, 2021

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This episode is more graphic than usual. Listener discretion is strongly advised .
The corpses of five young women were found in and around several small villages in West Germany. Each woman had been raped, stabbed, or strangled. Even worse, they had been mutilated. Nearly two decades would pass, and many more women would lose their lives. When police finally arrested the man responsible for all these gruesome murders, there was a stew brewing on the stove with, well, you can’t imagine.
Join Jen and Cam as we discuss “Duisburg Man-Eater: Joachim Kroll” on Day 12 of the 12 Nightmares Before Christmas.
We didn't cover all the victims' names in this episode so we wanted to list them here. They deserve to be remembered.
Joachim Kroll’s Victims
Irmgard Strehl, 19,
Erika Schuletter, 12,
Klara Frieda Tesmer, 24, Heinrich Ott, was arrested for the crime. He hanged himself in jail.
Manuela Knodt, 16,
Petra Giese, 13, Vinzenz Kuehn was arrested and convicted.
Monika Tafel, 12, Walter Quicker was arrested for the crime. He was later released but was driven to suicide due to relentless neighbors.
Barbara Bruder, 12, Her body was never found.
Hermann Schmitz, 25,
Ursula Rohling, 20 Her boyfriend Adolf Schickel was falsely accused of killing her and he completed suicide
Ilona Harke, 5
Maria Hettgen, 61,
Jutta Rahn, 13
Karin Toepfer, 10
Marion Ketter, 4
Edward October from @octoberpodVHS does all our listener discretion warnings.
Nico @wetalkofdreams provides all original music and is our executive producer.
Sources:
https://www.spiegel.de/politik/ganze-masse-a-f1af7b2a-0002-0001-0000-000040942727
https://kulturmeister.com/notorious-serial-killers-en/joachim-kroll/?lang=en
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2opfxa
https://killer.cloud/serial-killers/show/72/joachim-kroll
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https://www.dieterwunderlich.de/Joachim-Kroll.htm
https://www.derwesten.de/staedte/duisburg/horror-duisburg-kannibale-mord-id213090825.html

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A Way with Words & Murder: Jack Unterweger Day 11 The 12 Nightmares Before Christmas Dec 23, 2021

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On September the 15th, 1990, people were walking along a river near Prague when they stumbled up what they thought was a mannequin. As they got closer, they realized it was the body of a young woman. Her body, nude, was left in a vulgar display. Her stocking was wrapped around her neck. The killer had tried to cover her with leaves and debris as if to hide his crime. The woman would turn out to be Blanka Bockova. Blanka had gone out the night before with friends to have drinks. The group decided to leave just before midnight, but Blanka was having fun and decided to stay for just one more. Her friends would say she was talking with a man who looked nearly 40 years of age, but that is all the information they could provide. What authorities could not yet know was that an international serial killer was just getting started, and he was no stranger to police.
Join Jen and Cam as we discuss “A Way with Words and Murder: Jack Unterweger” on Day 11 of the 12 Nightmares Before Christmas.
Edward October from @octoberpodVHS does our magical listener discretion.
Nico is our bestie. Nico @wetalkofdreams makes all our music and just happens to be our EP too.
Sources:
https://allthatsinteresting.com/jack-unterweger
https://www.ranker.com/list/jack-unterweger-facts/cat-mcauliffe
https://www.moviemaker.com/jack-unterweger-austrian-serial-killer-netflix-vanishing-at-the-cecil-hotel/
https://killer.cloud/serial-killers/show/103/jack-unterweger
http://jimshelley.com/crime/jack-unterweher/
https://www.hayvine.com/entertainment/5-shocking-facts-of-jack-unterwegers-dark-history-of-grisly-murders-and-crimes
https://www.biography.com/crime-figure/jack-unterweger

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