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    On Wisdom

    What does it actually take to think wisely? On Wisdom digs into the empirical science of wisdom, judgment, and decision-making, and what it means for how we live. Igor Grossmann runs the Wisdom & Culture Lab at the University of Waterloo. Charles Cassidy runs the Evidence-Based Wisdom project in London. Each episode pairs freewheeling conversation with guest spots from leading behavioural scientists working on reasoning, wellbeing, culture, and society. Past guests include Adam Grant, Jonathan Haidt, Paul Bloom, Shannon Vallor, Lisa Barrett, David Dunning, Mara Mather, Tom Gilovich, Laura Carstensen, Oliver Burkeman, Simine Vazire, Dacher Keltner, and more. This autumn: a five-episode special series built around the first Annual Review of Psychology chapter on wisdom since 2011, featuring fifteen scholars on narrative, metacognition, measurement, training, and the neuroscience of wise decisions.

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    Episode 18: The End of the World is Nigh: Polarised Tribes, Passionate Words, and the Partisan Brain (with Jay Van Bavel) Jun 29, 2019
    Show notes

    How did politics get so damn polarised? Jay Van Bavel joins Igor and Charles to discuss political polarisation, the partisan brain, the inexorable rise of superheroes in dark times, the misperceptions of polarisation levels, and how to reach out to other tribes. Igor highlights the partisanship-transcending benefits of a Watchmen-style alien invasion, Jay proposes the judicious use of ‘off-ramps’ when engaging with loved-ones from across the political divide, and Charles learns that even the abstract purity of Mathematics is not immune from the tentacles of partisanship when guns are involved. Welcome to Episode 18.

    Special Guest: Jay Van Bavel.

    Links:

    • Social Perception and Evaluation Lab
    • The dangers of the partisan brain | Jay Van Bavel | TEDxSkoll - YouTube
    • The Partisan Brain: An Identity-Based Model of Political Belief - ScienceDirect
    • Emotion shapes the diffusion of moralized content in social networks - Brady, Wills, Jost, Tucker and Van Bavel (2016)
    • An Ideological Asymmetry in the Diffusion of Moralized Content on Social Media Among Political Leaders - Brady, Wills, Burkart, Jost, Van Bavel (2018)
    • How to go viral: stick to your morals but add a hint of emotion | WIRED UK
    • What Brexit can teach us about the psychology of fear - Vox
    • Letters to Young Scientists | Science | AAAS

    Episode 17: The Metaphysics of Email and The Perils of Productivity (with Oliver Burkeman) May 28, 2019
    Show notes

    Our current productivity culture appears to peddle a false promise: If we can just get better organised, we really can do everything - no tough life choices or trade-offs need to be made! Guardian journalist and author Oliver Burkeman joins Igor and Charles to discuss the ironic effects of the pursuit of productivity, the inbox zero phenomenon, the futile denial of limitations, the Jevons paradox, Keynes’ concerns about a future society drowning in leisure time, Nietzsche’s suspicions regarding our beloved busyness, the social complexities of sending back a poorly made coffee, and the importance of living a life that is larger than politics. Igor wonders if the ‘slow-food’ philosophy can be extended to start a ‘slow-work’ movement in social and medical sciences to help address replication concerns, Oliver explains why he sat on the London underground loudly calling out the names of approaching stations to a carriage full of strangers, and Charles reveals how a ‘free-coffees-for-nice-customers’ policy can badly backfire, particularly if your customers are British. Welcome to Episode 17.

    Special Guest: Oliver Burkeman.

    Links:

    • Oliver Burkeman | The Guardian
    • Oliver Burkeman | The Antidote
    • Oliver Burkeman: The Negative Path to Happiness and Success - YouTube
    • Supressing the 'white bears' (American Psychological Association) - Daniel Wegner's Theory of 'Ironic Processes'
    • Why time management is ruining our lives | Oliver Burkeman | Technology | The Guardian
    • How to stop fighting against time. | Oliver Burkeman | TEDxUniversityofNicosia - YouTube
    • Inbox Zero: What is Inbox Zero and is Zero Inbox Possible in 2019?
    • The Efficiency Dilemma | The New Yorker (The Jevons Paradox)
    • How the news took over reality | News | The Guardian
    • Robert B. Talisse | Philosophy Department | Vanderbilt University

    Episode 16: Beware the Intelligence Trap! (with David Robson) Apr 28, 2019
    Show notes

    Do highly intelligent people actually take better decisions in their daily lives than everyone else? And if not, what’s missing from our picture of what it means to be ‘smart’? Can you be highly intelligent, yet flunk a rationality test? And rather than noise to be ignored, might our emotions help us make decisions that are actually more rational? David Robson joins Igor and Charles to discuss intelligence traps, Terman’s Termites, the Monte Carlo fallacy, Damasio’s Somatic Marker hypothesis, the competitive humility of the start-up culture, and the ‘brutal pessimism’ baked in to the dark history of the Intelligence test. Igor wrangles with the challenge of convincing leaders of the merits of intellectual humility in a culture obsessed with certainty, David advocates for widespread cognitive inoculations, and Charles learns that butterflies in the stomach after a date may mean love, but also may mean gastric flu. Welcome to Episode 16.

    Special Guest: David Robson.

    Links:

    • David Robson – Exploring the human brain, body and behaviour.
    • The Intelligence Trap – David Robson
    • Intelligence — Robert J. Sternberg
    • Alfred Binet and the History of IQ Testing
    • The Vexing Legacy of Lewis Terman | STANFORD magazine
    • Five Minutes with Keith E. Stanovich, Richard F. West, and Maggie E. Toplak | The MIT Press
    • Rational and Irrational Thought: The Thinking That IQ Tests Miss - Scientific American
    • The Somatic Marker Hypothesis and the Possible Functions of the Prefrontal Cortex: Damasio, Everitt and Bishop (1996)
    • Emotional intelligence and how emotions are 'made' | WIRED UK
    • Can We Improve Predictions? Q&A with Philip "Superforecasting" Tetlock - Scientific American Blog Network
    • The Debunking Handbook: now freely available for download
    • The Fine Art of Baloney Detection: Carl Sagan
    • Exploring Solomon’s Paradox: Self-Distancing Eliminates the Self-Other Asymmetry in Wise Reasoning About Close Relationships in Younger and Older Adults - Igor Grossmann, Ethan Kross, 2014

    Episode 15: Wisdom, Bullshit & Beliefs (with Gordon Pennycook) Apr 07, 2019
    Show notes

    ‘Wholeness quiets infinite phenomena?’ Does it, really?! Why do some people fall for pseudo-profound bullshit and others don’t? When we share fake news stories, is this because we're motivated to think they're real, or because we don't bother to think at all? And why do scientists fight tooth-and-nail over the mechanisms involved, such as “System I vs. System II”, “Fast vs. Slow” and other frameworks? Gordon Pennycook joins Igor and Charles to discuss the critical distinction between a liar and a bullshitter, the cognitive reflection test, the random Deepak Chopra quote generator, the Ig Nobel prize, motivated reasoning, climate change beliefs, academic turf wars among dual process theorists, and how to stop yourself from compulsively retweeting fake news. Igor suggests that Gord only thought of studying bullshit after disbelief at one of Igor’s early talks, Gord reminds us that even the most enlightened social media platforms are in no hurry to help people STOP sharing news, and Charles unexpectedly finds common ground with the Chinese government. Welcome to Episode 15.

    Special Guest: Gordon Pennycook.

    Links:

    • Gordon Pennycook's Site
    • On Bullshit - Harry G. Frankfurt (2005)
    • On the Reception and Detection of Pseudoprofound Bullshit - Pennycook, Cheyne, Barr, Koehler, Fugelsang (2015)
    • Random Deepak Chopra Quote Generator - Wisdom of Chopra
    • Ig Nobel Prize Ceremony 2016 - Video
    • Opinion | Why Do People Fall for Fake News? - The New York Times
    • People Furthest Apart on Climate Views Are Often the Most Educated - Scientific American (2017)
    • Lazy, not biased: Susceptibility to partisan fake news is better explained by lack of reasoning than by motivated reasoning - Pennycook & Rand (2018)
    • Everyday Consequences of Analytic Thinking - Pennycook, Fugelsang, Koehler (2015)
    • The Mythical Number Two - Melnikoff & Bargh (2018)
    • The Mythical DualProcess Typology Gordon Pennycook, De Neys, Evans, Stanovich, Thompson (2018)

    Episode 14: Wisdom & Social Norms (with Michele Gelfand) Mar 13, 2019
    Show notes

    Is it wiser for a society to be ‘tight’ – strictly enforcing social rules, or ‘loose’ – in which social rule-breaking barely raise an eyebrow? What do social norms have to do with a sense of threat? And might wise leaders have worked out how to dynamically calibrate the tightness or looseness of their organisations as the situation demands? Michele Gelfand joins Igor and Charles to discuss the role of threat in ‘tight vs loose’ societies, the goldilocks principle, ‘real vs perceived’ threat’s in Trump’s America, autocratic recidivism, rum-fuelled meetings, transgressive hand puppets, and the case for recalibrating the internet. Igor reflects on the tight-loose contradictions at the beating heart of the Disney Corporation, Michele cautions against ‘flipping-off’ drivers in the honour culture of the southern states, and Charles makes peace with his inner spirit muppet, Kermit the frog. Welcome to Episode 14.

    Special Guest: Michele Gelfand.

    Links:

    • Michele Gelfand Homepage
    • The Tight-Loose Quiz - Mindset Quiz: How Tight or Loose Are You? (michelegelfand.com)
    • Rule Makers, Rule Breakers: How Tight and Loose Cultures Wire Our World - Michele Gelfand (Book)
    • Differences Between Tight and Loose Cultures: A 33-Nation Study - Gelfand et al (2011)
    • The Secret Life of Social Norms - Michele Gelfand (TEDxPaloAltoSalon talk)
    • Culture as the menacing force behind today’s crazy politics - Michele Gelfand (The Economist, 2019)
    • Here’s the science behind the Brexit vote and Trump’s rise - Michele Gelfand (The Guardian, 2018)
    • An upper-class mindset doesn’t make you classy - Michele Gelfand & Jesse Harrington (Boston Globe, 2018)
    • The Self and Social Behavior in Differing Cultural Contexts - Triandis (1989)
    • Horizontal and Vertical Dimensions of Individualism and Collectivism: A Theoretical and Measurement Refinement - Singelis, Triandis, Bhawuk, Gelfand (1995)
    • A theory of individualism and collectivism - Triandis & Gelfand (2012)
    • Dimensionalizing Cultures: The Hofstede Model in Context - Hofstede (2011)
    • A Theory of Cultural Value Orientations: Explication and Applications - Schwartz (2006)
    • Effects of Cultural Tightness and Collectivism on Self-Concept and Causal Attributions - Carpenter (2000)
    • Misperceptions about immigration and support for redistribution - Alesina, Miano, Stantcheva (2018)
    • We Need a High Wall With a Big Gate - Friedman (New York Times, 2018)

    Episode 13: Can Wisdom be Taught? Feb 21, 2019
    Show notes

    Can, or even should wisdom be taught at school? Would teaching about wisdom in the classroom even translate into wiser behaviour? And might learning about wise historical figures in school actually decrease the likelihood of students behaving more wisely? Igor and Charles tinker with the nuts and bolts of a speculative wisdom curriculum, discussing the stark limits of formal ethics classes, future technological tools to help identify when wise reasoning is necessary, and the counterproductive impact of presenting wise figures out of context. Igor commends Yoda for wisely encouraging Luke to share his failures, and alerts us to the dangers of turning sages into saints, while Charles struggles to acquire the wisdom necessary to know when wisdom is necessary. Welcome to Episode 13.

    Links:

    • A pathway for wisdom-focused education - Huynh, Grossmann (2018)
    • Wisdom and how to cultivate it: Review of emerging evidence for a constructivist model of wise thinking - Grossmann (2018)
    • Teaching for Wisdom: Cross-cultural Perspectives on Fostering Wisdom - Ferrari, Potworowski (2008)
    • Why Schools Should Teach for Wisdom: The Balance Theory of Wisdom in Educational Settings - Sternberg (2001)
    • 'From Jerusalem to Jericho': A Study of Situational and Dispositional Variables in Helping Behavior - Darley, Batson (1973)
    • Construal-Level Theory of Psychological Distance - Trope, Liberman (2010)
    • Yoda & Luke - The Last Jedi (2017)
    • The Jigsaw Classroom

    Episode 12: Social and Emotional Aging (with Laura Carstensen) Jan 23, 2019
    Show notes

    Life expectancy increased more in the 20th century than in the entire prior history of humanity combined. With many more of us now getting the opportunity to live into old age, what do we have to look forward to? Do our social and emotional lives degrade in step with our physical bodies as we age, or do we in fact get much happier as we get older? How does the sense of ‘time-left’ impact our wisdom, behaviour and priorities? Laura Carstensen joins Igor and Charles to discuss individual and societal aspects of human aging. We focus on the implications and opportunities of recent extraordinary gains in life expectancy, the socio-emotional selectivity theory, the positivity effect, the thorny issue of increasing retirement age, and the surprising role of time-horizons in how we choose to spend our time. Igor alerts us to the cultural differences and the positive impact old people have on a work team’s productivity, Laura reassures us that no-one ever wants to repeat their twenties, and Charles learns of the dangers of young people trying to think like old people as a route to happiness. Welcome to Episode 12.

    Special Guest: Laura Carstensen.

    Links:

    • Stanford Center on Longevity
    • Older People are Happier - Laura Carstensen (TED Talk)
    • A Long Bright Future - Laura Carstensen (Book)
    • Redesigning Long Life: Uncommon Approaches for Unprecedented Challenges - Laura Carstensen (Stanford Big Data talk)
    • Socioemotional Selectivity Theory and the Regulation of Emotion in the Second Half of Life - Carstensen, Fung, Charles (2003)
    • Integrating cognitive and emotion paradigms to address the paradox of aging - Carstensen (2018)
    • Taking time seriously. A theory of socioemotional selectivity - Carstensen, Isaacowitz, Charles (1999)
    • The influence of a sense of time on human development - Carstensen (2006)
    • Emotional experience improves with age: evidence based on over 10 years of experience sampling - Carstensen, Turan, Scheibe, Ram, Ersner-Hershfield, Samanez-Larkin, Brooks, Nesselroade (2011)
    • Psychological Perspectives on Successful Aging: The Model of Selective Optimization with Compensation - Baltes P, Baltes M (1990)
    • A cultural perspective on emotional experiences across the life span - Grossmann, Karasawa, Kan, Kitayama (2014)

    Episode 11: Wisdom at Work (with Barry Schwartz) Dec 28, 2018
    Show notes

    Can we design our workplaces to generate wiser behaviour? Why do we work anyway, and would we still work if we didn’t get paid? Do employers even want their employees to develop wisdom? Barry Schwartz joins Igor and Charles to discuss how Aristotle’s Practical Wisdom applies in the 21st Century, the reasons why we work, idea technology, the unintended consequences of rules-based systems, and the moral dangers and limits of incentives. Igor proposes the idea of algorithm-based wise machines, Barry suggests companies hire for character rather than skill, and Charles learns why, in wiser work places, the cost of free-riders may well be a price worth paying. Welcome to Episode 11.

    Special Guest: Barry Schwartz.

    Links:

    • Our Loss of Wisdom - Barry Schwartz (TED talk)
    • Using Our Practical Wisdom - Barry Schwartz (TED talk)
    • The Paradox of Choice - Barry Schwartz (TED Talk)
    • Practical Wisdom (Book) - Barry Schwartz & Kenneth Sharpe
    • Why We Work - Barry Schwartz (Book)
    • The Paradox of Choice - Barry Schwartz (Book)
    • Rethinking Work - Barry Schwartz (New York Times)

    Episode 10: Wise Bodies, Wise Brains (with Wendy Berry Mendes) Nov 22, 2018
    Show notes

    Is our capacity for wise behaviour determined not just by our psychology but also by our physiology? Is there such a thing as ‘good stress’, and how might our assessment of a situation reduce the chances of us 'choking'? And can our own bodies actually be physically affected by other people's emotions? Wendy Berry Mendes joins Igor and Charles to discuss the interaction between the psychological and physiological processes underpinning wise behaviour, exploring 'challenge vs threat' stress responses, vagal flexibility, affect contagion, and the physiology of social sensitivity and good judgement. Igor wants to know how to stay calm before dance competitions, Wendy shares tales of stressing out unsuspecting young mothers and their babies, and Charles learns of the hidden upsides to mind-body meltdowns. Welcome to Episode 10.

    Special Guest: Wendy Berry Mendes.

    Links:

    • Emotion, Health, and Psychophysiology Lab
    • Decisions Under Distress : Stress Profiles Influence Anchoring and Adjustment - Kassam, Koslov, Mendes (2009)
    • More than a feeling: A unified view of stress measurement for population science - Epel, Crosswell , Mayer, Prather, Slavich , Puterman, Mendes (2018)
    • Vagal Flexibility: A Physiological Predictor of Social Sensitivity - Muhtadie, Koslov, Akinola, Mendes (2014)
    • Cardiac vagal flexibility and accurate personality impressions: Examining a physiological correlate of the good judge - Human, Mendes (2018)
    • A Heart and A Mind: Self-distancing Facilitates the Association Between Heart Rate Variability, and Wise Reasoning - Grossmann, Sahdra, Ciarrochi (2016)
    • Affect Contagion Between Mothers and Infants: Examining Valence and Touch - Waters, West, Karnilowicz, Mendes (2017)
    • Stress Contagion: Physiological Covariation Between Mothers and Infants - Waters, West, Mendes (2014)
    • Contagious Anxiety: Anxious European Americans Can Transmit Their Physiological Reactivity to African Americans - West, Koslov, Page-Gould, Major, Mendes (2017)
    • Sartorial symbols of social class elicit class-consistent behavioral and physiological responses: A dyadic approach - Kraus, Mendes (2014)
    • Video - How Does Gratitude Affect Health and Aging? - Presentation at UC Berkeley's Greater Good Gratitude Summit 2014
    • Video - Experts in Emotion: Wendy Berry Mendes on Psychophysiology Measurement and Health - Experts in Emotion Series; June Gruber, Yale University
    • My BP Lab

    Episode 9: Dangerous Reflections (with Valerie Tiberius) Oct 29, 2018
    Show notes

    Can philosophers and psychologists work together to guide us towards living wisely? In pursuing the good life, can too much reflection be dangerous? Might philosophers have downplayed the importance of getting lost in experience? Valerie Tiberius joins Igor and Charles to discuss positive illusions, values integration, bearing our own reflective survey, and the perils of excessive introspection. Igor has questions about the rise of the empirically-informed movement in philosophy, Valerie suggests humility is critical to friendship, and Charles wants to know how hit-moral-philosophy-comedy ‘The Good Life’ ever got commissioned. Welcome to Episode 9.

    Special Guest: Valerie Tiberius.

    Links:

    • Valerie Tiberius's website
    • The Reflective Life: Living Wisely With Our Limits
    • Well-Being as Value Fulfillment How We Can Help Each Other to Live Well Valerie Tiberius (Oxford University Press)
    • Wisdom Through Reflection - The New York Academy of Sciences, February 3, 2016 (Video) — An excerpt from "Cultivating Character: The Art of Living" featuring Steve Paulson, Valerie Tiberius, Philip Kitcher and Lisa Feldman Barrett.
    • Conversations on Wisdom: UnCut Interview with Valerie Tiberius - Centre for Practical Wisdom, University of Chicago (Video)
    • The Good Place
    • What We Owe to Each Other - T. M. Scanlon
    • Schwartz theory of basic values
    • Toward a universal psychological structure of human values - Shalom Schwartz, Wolfgang Bilsky, (1987)
    • BBC Tomorrow's World: Global Values - Where do you fit?
    • DeYoung Personality Laboratory - Prof. Colin DeYoung
    • The Many Faces of Wisdom: An Investigation of Cultural-Historical Wisdom Exemplars Reveals Practical, Philosophical, and Benevolent Prototypes. Weststrate NM, Ferrari M, Ardelt M (2016)
    • The Happiness Hypothesis: Finding Modern Truth in Ancient Wisdom - Jonathan Haidt
    • Strangers to Ourselves: Discovering the Adaptive Unconscious - Timothy D. Wilson
    • David Hume (Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy)
    • Virtue Ethics (Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy)
    • Exploring Solomon's paradox: self-distancing eliminates the self-other asymmetry in wise reasoning about close relationships in younger and older adults - Grossmann, Kross (2014)
    • How Theories of Well-Being Can Help Us Help - Tiberius (2018) — Includes an outline of Tiberius' Value Fulfillment Theory

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