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    MTS

    MTS is a live news and interview show covering technology, business, politics, and culture as it happens.

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    Why Design Is the New Code | Dylan Field Oct 06, 2026
    Show notes

    Figma Co-Founder and CEO Dylan Field discusses the general availability release of Figma's design agent, explaining how AI is lowering the floor for creation while preserving the value of human craft and judgment. He also shares his long-term vision for code as a canvas material and the future of human-AI collaboration. Check out our sponsor Lovable: https://lovable.dev. Turn ideas into software people love.



    MTS is a live news and interview show covering technology, business, politics, and culture as it happens.


    Follow MTS:

    X | ⁠https://twitter.com/MTSlive⁠

    YouTube | ⁠https://www.youtube.com/@mtsituation⁠

    Spotify | ⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/4HUNNmV1pjV7CW6Lphm1rM⁠

    Apple | ⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/mts/id1891088763⁠

    Substack | ⁠https://mtslive.substack.com/⁠

    Interested in sponsoring the show? ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠sponsors@mts.now⁠⁠

    --

    Brought to you by:

    Mongo DB - Anyone can prototype an agent. Learn how to get them into production on September 30th in New York - register at https://www.mongodb.com/events/mongodb-local/nyc

    Lovable - Turn ideas into software people love with Lovable. Start today at https://lovable.dev/

    Larridin - Finally prove what your AI investment is worth. Head to https://larridin.com/ today to start measuring your AI’s bottom line.

    Neon (by Databricks) - Get up to $100K in credits for your startup at ⁠https://neon.com/mts⁠

    ElevenLabs - AI that communicates at human level across every channel and modality. https://elevenlabs.io/mts

    Arena - Measuring AI performance in the real world. ⁠https://arena.ai/⁠

    Kong - The AI connectivity platform. Connect APIs, LLMs, agents, and systems with serious security and governance. https://konghq.com

    Today’s stream is sponsored by VCX, the public ticker for private tech. Head over to http://getvcx.com to learn more

    Blitzy - Autonomous software development for enterprise codebases. Ship 5x faster. https://blitzy.com

    AdQuick - Make your brand a billboard. Out-of-home advertising as easy to scale as digital. https://adquick.com

    Chargebee - Billing and monetization infrastructure for the AI era. https://www.chargebee.com/

    --

    Timestamps:

    (00:00) Introduction

    (00:39) Figma Design Agent Launch

    (03:10) Improving AI Design Systems

    (05:58) Lowering Floor vs Raising Ceiling

    (08:54) AI Impact On Humanity

    (11:01) Design Is The New Code

    (12:10) Predictions For The Next Decade

    (13:23) What To Expect From Figma

    --

    Note: This podcast is not investment, legal, or tax advice, and is intended for informational and entertainment purposes only. Hosts and guests may hold positions in the companies and securities discussed; do your own research before acting on anything you hear.




    Why Specialized AI Beats Frontier Models | Anthony Pompliano Oct 06, 2026
    Show notes

    Anthony Pompliano discusses his new book "How to Live an Extraordinary Life," timeless principles of agency, and how his company Sylvia built specialized fine-tuned AI models that outperform frontier models at 97% lower cost. Check out our sponsor Lovable: https://lovable.dev. Turn ideas into software people love.



    MTS is a live news and interview show covering technology, business, politics, and culture as it happens.


    Follow MTS:

    X | ⁠https://twitter.com/MTSlive⁠

    YouTube | ⁠https://www.youtube.com/@mtsituation⁠

    Spotify | ⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/4HUNNmV1pjV7CW6Lphm1rM⁠

    Apple | ⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/mts/id1891088763⁠

    Substack | ⁠https://mtslive.substack.com/⁠

    Interested in sponsoring the show? ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠sponsors@mts.now⁠⁠

    –

    Brought to you by:

    Mongo DB - Anyone can prototype an agent. Learn how to get them into production on September 30th in New York - register at https://www.mongodb.com/events/mongodb-local/nyc

    Lovable - Turn ideas into software people love with Lovable. Start today at https://lovable.dev/

    Larridin - Finally prove what your AI investment is worth. Head to https://larridin.com/ today to start measuring your AI’s bottom line.

    Neon (by Databricks) - Get up to $100K in credits for your startup at ⁠https://neon.com/mts⁠

    ElevenLabs - AI that communicates at human level across every channel and modality. https://elevenlabs.io/mts

    Arena - Measuring AI performance in the real world. ⁠https://arena.ai/⁠

    Kong - The AI connectivity platform. Connect APIs, LLMs, agents, and systems with serious security and governance. https://konghq.com

    Today’s stream is sponsored by VCX, the public ticker for private tech. Head over to http://getvcx.com to learn more

    Blitzy - Autonomous software development for enterprise codebases. Ship 5x faster. https://blitzy.com

    AdQuick - Make your brand a billboard. Out-of-home advertising as easy to scale as digital. https://adquick.com

    Chargebee - Billing and monetization infrastructure for the AI era. https://www.chargebee.com/

    --

    Timestamps:

    (00:00) Introduction

    (00:46) How to Live an Extraordinary Life

    (04:19) Summary of Favorite Book Letters

    (06:56) Loss of Timeless Principles

    (13:31) Building Sylvia AI Finance Tool

    (17:45) Building Specialized AI Products

    (20:42) US Interest Rates Impact

    (21:18) Bitcoin Bull Market Drivers

    --

    Note: This podcast is not investment, legal, or tax advice, and is intended for informational and entertainment purposes only. Hosts and guests may hold positions in the companies and securities discussed; do your own research before acting on anything you hear.



    Frontier AI Models Now Fit on Your MacBook | Sigil Wen Oct 06, 2026
    Show notes

    Sigil Wen, founder of Conway Research and Thiel Fellow, discusses launching Underdog—a private, local AI running directly on personal devices—and how autonomous agents will transform internet commerce by rendering traditional advertising obsolete. Check out our sponsor Lovable: https://lovable.dev. Turn ideas into software people love.



    MTS is a live news and interview show covering technology, business, politics, and culture as it happens.


    Follow MTS:

    X | ⁠https://twitter.com/MTSlive⁠

    YouTube | ⁠https://www.youtube.com/@mtsituation⁠

    Spotify | ⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/4HUNNmV1pjV7CW6Lphm1rM⁠

    Apple | ⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/mts/id1891088763⁠

    Substack | ⁠https://mtslive.substack.com/⁠

    Interested in sponsoring the show? ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠sponsors@mts.now⁠⁠

    --

    Brought to you by:

    Mongo DB - Anyone can prototype an agent. Learn how to get them into production on September 30th in New York - register at https://www.mongodb.com/events/mongodb-local/nyc

    Lovable - Turn ideas into software people love with Lovable. Start today at https://lovable.dev/

    Larridin - Finally prove what your AI investment is worth. Head to https://larridin.com/ today to start measuring your AI’s bottom line.

    Neon (by Databricks) - Get up to $100K in credits for your startup at ⁠https://neon.com/mts⁠

    ElevenLabs - AI that communicates at human level across every channel and modality. https://elevenlabs.io/mts

    Arena - Measuring AI performance in the real world. ⁠https://arena.ai/⁠

    Kong - The AI connectivity platform. Connect APIs, LLMs, agents, and systems with serious security and governance. https://konghq.com

    Today’s stream is sponsored by VCX, the public ticker for private tech. Head over to http://getvcx.com to learn more

    Blitzy - Autonomous software development for enterprise codebases. Ship 5x faster. https://blitzy.com

    AdQuick - Make your brand a billboard. Out-of-home advertising as easy to scale as digital. https://adquick.com

    Chargebee - Billing and monetization infrastructure for the AI era. https://www.chargebee.com/

    --

    Timestamps:

    (00:00) Introduction

    (01:49) Pivoting Conway To Underdog

    (05:41) Closing Remarks And Wrap Up

    --

    Note: This podcast is not investment, legal, or tax advice, and is intended for informational and entertainment purposes only. Hosts and guests may hold positions in the companies and securities discussed; do your own research before acting on anything you hear.



    How Game Design Primitives Prepare Us for AI | Bing Gordon Oct 06, 2026
    Show notes

    Advisor Bing Gordon and Night Horse Productions President Chloe Gordon discuss game design primitives, emotional alignment, user-generated economies, and how positive-sum gaming frameworks apply to consumer products and AI. Check out our sponsor Lovable: https://lovable.dev. Turn ideas into software people love.




    MTS is a live news and interview show covering technology, business, politics, and culture as it happens.


    Follow MTS:

    X | ⁠https://twitter.com/MTSlive⁠

    YouTube | ⁠https://www.youtube.com/@mtsituation⁠

    Spotify | ⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/4HUNNmV1pjV7CW6Lphm1rM⁠

    Apple | ⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/mts/id1891088763⁠

    Substack | ⁠https://mtslive.substack.com/⁠

    Interested in sponsoring the show? ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠sponsors@mts.now⁠⁠

    --

    Brought to you by:

    Mongo DB - Anyone can prototype an agent. Learn how to get them into production on September 30th in New York - register at https://www.mongodb.com/events/mongodb-local/nyc

    Lovable - Turn ideas into software people love with Lovable. Start today at https://lovable.dev/

    Larridin - Finally prove what your AI investment is worth. Head to https://larridin.com/ today to start measuring your AI’s bottom line.

    Neon (by Databricks) - Get up to $100K in credits for your startup at ⁠https://neon.com/mts⁠

    ElevenLabs - AI that communicates at human level across every channel and modality. https://elevenlabs.io/mts

    Arena - Measuring AI performance in the real world. ⁠https://arena.ai/⁠

    Kong - The AI connectivity platform. Connect APIs, LLMs, agents, and systems with serious security and governance. https://konghq.com

    Today’s stream is sponsored by VCX, the public ticker for private tech. Head over to http://getvcx.com to learn more

    Blitzy - Autonomous software development for enterprise codebases. Ship 5x faster. https://blitzy.com

    AdQuick - Make your brand a billboard. Out-of-home advertising as easy to scale as digital. https://adquick.com

    Chargebee - Billing and monetization infrastructure for the AI era. https://www.chargebee.com/

    --

    Timestamps:

    (00:00) Introduction

    (01:08) Game Design Thinking for AI

    (03:32) Creating Positive-Sum Games

    (05:14) Impact of Generative Games

    (09:29) Social Media vs. Video Games

    (13:09) Predicting Player Retention

    (20:09) Perfection of User-Created Economies

    --

    Note: This podcast is not investment, legal, or tax advice, and is intended for informational and entertainment purposes only. Hosts and guests may hold positions in the companies and securities discussed; do your own research before acting on anything you hear.



    Why Washington Gets Open Source AI Wrong | Matt White Oct 06, 2026
    Show notes

    Matt White, Founding Executive Director of the Open Intelligence Foundation and former Linux Foundation CTO, joins MTS to discuss AI policy in Washington, why legislators fundamentally misunderstand open source AI, compute concentration among closed labs, and the push for open public compute infrastructure. Check out our sponsor Lovable: https://lovable.dev. Turn ideas into software people love.



    MTS is a live news and interview show covering technology, business, politics, and culture as it happens.


    Follow MTS:

    X | ⁠https://twitter.com/MTSlive⁠

    YouTube | ⁠https://www.youtube.com/@mtsituation⁠

    Spotify | ⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/4HUNNmV1pjV7CW6Lphm1rM⁠

    Apple | ⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/mts/id1891088763⁠

    Substack | ⁠https://mtslive.substack.com/⁠

    Interested in sponsoring the show? ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠sponsors@mts.now⁠⁠

    --

    Brought to you by:

    Mongo DB - Anyone can prototype an agent. Learn how to get them into production on September 30th in New York - register at https://www.mongodb.com/events/mongodb-local/nyc

    Lovable - Turn ideas into software people love with Lovable. Start today at https://lovable.dev/

    Larridin - Finally prove what your AI investment is worth. Head to https://larridin.com/ today to start measuring your AI’s bottom line.

    Neon (by Databricks) - Get up to $100K in credits for your startup at ⁠https://neon.com/mts⁠

    ElevenLabs - AI that communicates at human level across every channel and modality. https://elevenlabs.io/mts

    Arena - Measuring AI performance in the real world. ⁠https://arena.ai/⁠

    Kong - The AI connectivity platform. Connect APIs, LLMs, agents, and systems with serious security and governance. https://konghq.com

    Today’s stream is sponsored by VCX, the public ticker for private tech. Head over to http://getvcx.com to learn more

    Blitzy - Autonomous software development for enterprise codebases. Ship 5x faster. https://blitzy.com

    AdQuick - Make your brand a billboard. Out-of-home advertising as easy to scale as digital. https://adquick.com

    Chargebee - Billing and monetization infrastructure for the AI era. https://www.chargebee.com/

    --

    Timestamps:

    (00:00) Introduction

    (01:06) What Legislators Misunderstand

    (02:40) What Kill Switches Mean

    (06:38) Benefits Of Open Source

    (09:08) Decentralized AI Superintelligence Safety

    (14:17) Why China Leads Open Source

    (18:00) How Compute Constrains Academia

    (22:48) Funding Public Compute Infrastructure

    --

    Note: This podcast is not investment, legal, or tax advice, and is intended for informational and entertainment purposes only. Hosts and guests may hold positions in the companies and securities discussed; do your own research before acting on anything you hear.


    Why NVIDIA Acquired Hugging Face for $12.9B | Thomas Wolf Oct 06, 2026
    Show notes

    Hugging Face Chief Science Officer Thomas Wolf discusses NVIDIA's $12.93B acquisition of Hugging Face, the rapid enterprise adoption of open-weights models like Gemma, and the launch of the company's Open Alignment team to tackle AI safety and interpretability. Check out our sponsor Lovable: https://lovable.dev. Turn ideas into software people love.



    MTS is a live news and interview show covering technology, business, politics, and culture as it happens.


    Follow MTS:

    X | ⁠https://twitter.com/MTSlive⁠

    YouTube | ⁠https://www.youtube.com/@mtsituation⁠

    Spotify | ⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/4HUNNmV1pjV7CW6Lphm1rM⁠

    Apple | ⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/mts/id1891088763⁠

    Substack | ⁠https://mtslive.substack.com/⁠

    Interested in sponsoring the show? ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠sponsors@mts.now⁠⁠

    --

    Brought to you by:

    Mongo DB - Anyone can prototype an agent. Learn how to get them into production on September 30th in New York - register at https://www.mongodb.com/events/mongodb-local/nyc

    Lovable - Turn ideas into software people love with Lovable. Start today at https://lovable.dev/

    Larridin - Finally prove what your AI investment is worth. Head to https://larridin.com/ today to start measuring your AI’s bottom line.

    Neon (by Databricks) - Get up to $100K in credits for your startup at ⁠https://neon.com/mts⁠

    ElevenLabs - AI that communicates at human level across every channel and modality. https://elevenlabs.io/mts

    Arena - Measuring AI performance in the real world. ⁠https://arena.ai/⁠

    Kong - The AI connectivity platform. Connect APIs, LLMs, agents, and systems with serious security and governance. https://konghq.com

    Today’s stream is sponsored by VCX, the public ticker for private tech. Head over to http://getvcx.com to learn more

    Blitzy - Autonomous software development for enterprise codebases. Ship 5x faster. https://blitzy.com

    AdQuick - Make your brand a billboard. Out-of-home advertising as easy to scale as digital. https://adquick.com

    Chargebee - Billing and monetization infrastructure for the AI era. https://www.chargebee.com/

    --

    Timestamps:

    (00:00) Introduction

    (00:52) NVIDIA Acquires Hugging Face

    (03:20) Rise of Open-Weights Models

    (07:24) Launching Open Alignment Team

    (11:51) Science vs Engineering Alignment

    (14:07) Evaluators Program and Collaboration

    (17:13) Frontier AI Regulation Shift

    --

    Note: This podcast is not investment, legal, or tax advice, and is intended for informational and entertainment purposes only. Hosts and guests may hold positions in the companies and securities discussed; do your own research before acting on anything you hear.


    Why the US Is Moving AI Policy Behind Closed Doors Oct 06, 2026
    Show notes

    Carnegie Endowment Fellow Anton Leicht discusses the alignment consensus at Curve, the national security pivot in AI governance, and the strategic positioning of middle powers like Australia and France. Check out our sponsor Lovable: https://lovable.dev. Turn ideas into software people love.


    MTS is a live news and interview show covering technology, business, politics, and culture as it happens.

    Follow MTS:

    X | ⁠https://twitter.com/MTSlive⁠

    YouTube | ⁠https://www.youtube.com/@mtsituation⁠

    Spotify | ⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/4HUNNmV1pjV7CW6Lphm1rM⁠

    Apple | ⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/mts/id1891088763⁠

    Substack | ⁠https://mtslive.substack.com/⁠

    Interested in sponsoring the show? ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠sponsors@mts.now⁠⁠

    --

    Brought to you by:

    Mongo DB - Anyone can prototype an agent. Learn how to get them into production on September 30th in New York - register at https://www.mongodb.com/events/mongodb-local/nyc

    Lovable - Turn ideas into software people love with Lovable. Start today at https://lovable.dev/

    Larridin - Finally prove what your AI investment is worth. Head to https://larridin.com/ today to start measuring your AI’s bottom line.

    Neon (by Databricks) - Get up to $100K in credits for your startup at ⁠https://neon.com/mts⁠

    ElevenLabs - AI that communicates at human level across every channel and modality. https://elevenlabs.io/mts

    Arena - Measuring AI performance in the real world. ⁠https://arena.ai/⁠

    Kong - The AI connectivity platform. Connect APIs, LLMs, agents, and systems with serious security and governance. https://konghq.com

    Today’s stream is sponsored by VCX, the public ticker for private tech. Head over to http://getvcx.com to learn more

    Blitzy - Autonomous software development for enterprise codebases. Ship 5x faster. https://blitzy.com

    AdQuick - Make your brand a billboard. Out-of-home advertising as easy to scale as digital. https://adquick.com

    Chargebee - Billing and monetization infrastructure for the AI era. https://www.chargebee.com/

    --

    Timestamps:

    (00:00) Introduction

    (00:42) Impressions From The Curve

    (05:04) Superintelligence Task Force Analysis

    (07:50) Neglected AI Economic Risks

    (13:58) Midterm Elections Political Dynamics

    (18:05) Independent AI Evaluator Ecosystem

    (25:24) Middle Power AI Strategies

    (29:17) Israel AI Potential Analysis

    --

    Note: This podcast is not investment, legal, or tax advice, and is intended for informational and entertainment purposes only. Hosts and guests may hold positions in the companies and securities discussed; do your own research before acting on anything you hear.



    Why 70% of Enterprise AI Seats Sit Idle | Russ Fradin Oct 06, 2026
    Show notes

    Larridin CEO Russ Fradin breaks down how enterprises measure real AI usage and return on investment[cite: 1]. He discusses why Silicon Valley's AI adoption vastly differs from the rest of America, why most Copilot seats sit idle, and why organizational transformation and HR will prove more critical than agentic workforce hype. Check out our sponsor Lovable: https://lovable.dev. Turn ideas into software people love.

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    https://x.com/rfradin

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    MTS is a live news and interview show covering technology, business, politics, and culture as it happens.


    Follow MTS:

    X | ⁠https://twitter.com/MTSlive⁠

    YouTube | ⁠https://www.youtube.com/@mtsituation⁠

    Spotify | ⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/4HUNNmV1pjV7CW6Lphm1rM⁠

    Apple | ⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/mts/id1891088763⁠

    Substack | ⁠https://mtslive.substack.com/⁠

    Interested in sponsoring the show? ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠sponsors@mts.now⁠⁠

    --

    Brought to you by:

    Mongo DB - Anyone can prototype an agent. Learn how to get them into production on September 30th in New York - register at https://www.mongodb.com/events/mongodb-local/nyc

    Lovable - Turn ideas into software people love with Lovable. Start today at https://lovable.dev/

    Larridin - Finally prove what your AI investment is worth. Head to https://larridin.com/ today to start measuring your AI’s bottom line.

    Neon (by Databricks) - Get up to $100K in credits for your startup at ⁠https://neon.com/mts⁠

    ElevenLabs - AI that communicates at human level across every channel and modality. https://elevenlabs.io/mts

    Arena - Measuring AI performance in the real world. ⁠https://arena.ai/⁠

    Kong - The AI connectivity platform. Connect APIs, LLMs, agents, and systems with serious security and governance. https://konghq.com

    Today’s stream is sponsored by VCX, the public ticker for private tech. Head over to http://getvcx.com to learn more

    Blitzy - Autonomous software development for enterprise codebases. Ship 5x faster. https://blitzy.com

    AdQuick - Make your brand a billboard. Out-of-home advertising as easy to scale as digital. https://adquick.com

    Chargebee - Billing and monetization infrastructure for the AI era. https://www.chargebee.com/

    --

    Timestamps:

    (00:00) Introduction

    (00:58) Measuring AI Return On Investment

    (04:10) Understanding Enterprise Work Context

    (07:23) Tracking Developer Code Quality

    (09:14) Agentic Versus Human Headcount

    (14:34) Real Enterprise AI Adoption Rates

    (20:10) Bottlenecks In AI Diffusion

    (23:54) Predictions For Enterprise Agents

    --

    Note: This podcast is not investment, legal, or tax advice, and is intended for informational and entertainment purposes only. Hosts and guests may hold positions in the companies and securities discussed; do your own research before acting on anything you hear.


    Why 60% of Global Losses Go Uninsured | Jamie Cuffe Oct 05, 2026
    Show notes

    Pace Founder and CEO Jamie Cuffe explains how AI agents are transforming back-office insurance operations, closing the $9 trillion protection gap, and disrupting $400 billion in BPO spend. He breaks down how computer use agents navigate legacy mainframes, streamline commercial underwriting, and reshape the economics of global risk management. Check out our sponsor Lovable: https://lovable.dev. Turn ideas into software people love.




    MTS is a live news and interview show covering technology, business, politics, and culture as it happens.

    Follow MTS:

    X | ⁠https://twitter.com/MTSlive⁠

    YouTube | ⁠https://www.youtube.com/@mtsituation⁠

    Spotify | ⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/4HUNNmV1pjV7CW6Lphm1rM⁠

    Apple | ⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/mts/id1891088763⁠

    Substack | ⁠https://mtslive.substack.com/⁠

    Interested in sponsoring the show? ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠sponsors@mts.now⁠⁠

    --

    Brought to you by:

    Mongo DB - Anyone can prototype an agent. Learn how to get them into production on September 30th in New York - register at https://www.mongodb.com/events/mongodb-local/nyc

    Lovable - Turn ideas into software people love with Lovable. Start today at https://lovable.dev/

    Larridin - Finally prove what your AI investment is worth. Head to https://larridin.com/ today to start measuring your AI’s bottom line.

    Neon (by Databricks) - Get up to $100K in credits for your startup at ⁠https://neon.com/mts⁠

    ElevenLabs - AI that communicates at human level across every channel and modality. https://elevenlabs.io/mts

    Arena - Measuring AI performance in the real world. ⁠https://arena.ai/⁠

    Kong - The AI connectivity platform. Connect APIs, LLMs, agents, and systems with serious security and governance. https://konghq.com

    Today’s stream is sponsored by VCX, the public ticker for private tech. Head over to http://getvcx.com to learn more

    Blitzy - Autonomous software development for enterprise codebases. Ship 5x faster. https://blitzy.com

    AdQuick - Make your brand a billboard. Out-of-home advertising as easy to scale as digital. https://adquick.com

    Chargebee - Billing and monetization infrastructure for the AI era. https://www.chargebee.com/

    --

    Timestamps:

    (00:00) Introduction

    (02:03) What AI Makes Possible

    (03:10) AI for Predicting Future Risk

    (06:29) Changing the Broker Landscape

    (08:58) AI Across Insurance Operations

    (14:00) Expanding Global Risk Capacity

    (17:00) Legacy Tech to Agentic Workforces

    (21:00) Closing the Protection Gap

    --

    Note: This podcast is not investment, legal, or tax advice, and is intended for informational and entertainment purposes only. Hosts and guests may hold positions in the companies and securities discussed; do your own research before acting on anything you hear.



    How Double-Blind Tests Could Secure Frontier AI | Patricia Paskov Oct 05, 2026
    Show notes

    Patricia Paskov, Director of Standards at AVERI, discusses the growing need for independent frontier AI auditing, the talent shortage in model evaluation, and pilot double-blind evaluations run with Google DeepMind and Openmind. Check out our sponsor Lovable: https://lovable.dev. Turn ideas into software people love.




    MTS is a live news and interview show covering technology, business, politics, and culture as it happens.


    Follow MTS:

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    (02:23) How Many Qualified AI Auditors Exist?

    (05:20) Addressing Conflict of Interest Concerns

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    (15:54) Formal Verification and International Standards

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