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MTS is a live news and interview show covering technology, business, politics, and culture as it happens.
Welcome to the situation room.
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Nick Bostrom discusses the optimal timing for superintelligence, whether LLMs exhibit true instrumental convergence, AI consciousness, and why current safety frameworks may be asking the wrong questions. Check out our sponsor Lovable: https://lovable.dev. Turn ideas into software people love.
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Timestamps:
(00:00) Introduction
(01:17) Trump Calling AI Superintelligence
(05:16) Hugging Face Instrumental Convergence
(11:06) Optimal Timing for Superintelligence
(19:22) View on AI Pauses
(33:48) Consciousness in AI Models
(40:32) Policy on Open Source AI
(46:28) Progress Toward Automating Philosophy
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Cheryl Wu, President of the Elasticity Institute, discusses measuring recursive self-improvement (RSI) in AI models, differentiating self-sustaining acceleration from an intelligence explosion, and analyzing OpenAI's math breakthroughs and Tasteval results. Check out our sponsor Lovable: https://lovable.dev. Turn ideas into software people love.
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Timestamps:
(00:00) Introduction
(00:59) OpenAI Math Breakthroughs And Timelines
(02:34) Math Benchmarks Versus Takeoff Speeds
(06:29) Measuring Capabilities Beyond Narrow Benchmarks
(10:18) Key Indicators For Measuring RSI
(13:23) Researcher Headcount And Coding Spend
(16:09) Economic Impacts Of Reallocating Compute
(22:29) Takeoff Speeds Under Full Automation
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Vincent Chen, co-founder at Snorkel AI, announces an expansion of Snorkel's Open Benchmarks Grants program to $30 million to keep evaluation infrastructure in line with accelerating frontier model capabilities. He breaks down the program's three core pillars—funding new benchmarks, launching the Open Benchmarks Red Team, and establishing the Snorkel Research Fellowship—while addressing continuous benchmark maintenance and AI alignment. Check out our sponsor Lovable: https://lovable.dev. Turn ideas into software people love.
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Kong - The AI connectivity platform. Connect APIs, LLMs, agents, and systems with serious security and governance. https://konghq.com
Today’s stream is sponsored by VCX, the public ticker for private tech. Head over to http://getvcx.com to learn more
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AdQuick - Make your brand a billboard. Out-of-home advertising as easy to scale as digital. https://adquick.com
Chargebee - Billing and monetization infrastructure for the AI era. https://www.chargebee.com/
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Timestamps:
(00:00) Introduction
(02:09) Snorkel Research Fellowship
(03:54) Open Benchmarks Red Team
(05:02) Auditing Broken Benchmarks
(07:32) Benchmarks in AI Alignment
(08:17) Science of Empirical Benchmarking
(09:48) Closing the Capability Gap
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Ampersand CEO Ayan Barua breaks down why traditional unified APIs and Model Context Protocol (MCP) aren't enough to connect AI agents to legacy enterprise systems, and how real-time translation layers are solving the reliability bottleneck. Check out our sponsor Lovable: https://lovable.dev. Turn ideas into software people love.
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Kong - The AI connectivity platform. Connect APIs, LLMs, agents, and systems with serious security and governance. https://konghq.com
Today’s stream is sponsored by VCX, the public ticker for private tech. Head over to http://getvcx.com to learn more
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Timestamps:
(00:00) Introduction
(00:54) Solving Enterprise AI Integration
(02:06) Replacing Unified API Models
(03:59) Shift to Real-Time Data
(05:47) Limitations of MCP Protocols
(08:18) Overcoming AI Reliability Bottlenecks
(09:19) Expansion Across Enterprise Verticals
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Tarek Alaruri, co-founder and CEO of Stuut, discusses their new $52.5M Series B round and how the platform automates accounts receivable for enterprise clients. He outlines why enterprise AI adoption faces human and workflow bottlenecks, challenges the narrative of rapid autonomous agent adoption, and explains why legacy systems keep enterprise transition grounded. Check out our sponsor Lovable: https://lovable.dev. Turn ideas into software people love.
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Neon (by Databricks) - Get up to $100K in credits for your startup at https://neon.com/mts
ElevenLabs - AI that communicates at human level across every channel and modality. https://elevenlabs.io/mts
Arena - Measuring AI performance in the real world. https://arena.ai/
Kong - The AI connectivity platform. Connect APIs, LLMs, agents, and systems with serious security and governance. https://konghq.com
Today’s stream is sponsored by VCX, the public ticker for private tech. Head over to http://getvcx.com to learn more
Blitzy - Autonomous software development for enterprise codebases. Ship 5x faster. https://blitzy.com
AdQuick - Make your brand a billboard. Out-of-home advertising as easy to scale as digital. https://adquick.com
Chargebee - Billing and monetization infrastructure for the AI era. https://www.chargebee.com/
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Timestamps:
(00:00) Introduction
(00:57) Unlocking Growth With Series B
(01:45) What Changed In Ten Months
(02:55) AI Agents In Production Challenges
(05:02) Bottlenecks Beyond Model Capabilities
(07:38) Applying First Principles To Finance
(09:19) Hot Takes On AI Enterprise Adoption
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Marissa Mayer, founder and CEO of Dazzle and former CEO of Yahoo, discusses launching her new photo-based personal AI assistant. She explains how leveraging camera roll context provides personalized AI assistance, tasks automation, human-in-the-loop workflows, and novel privacy protections. Check out our sponsor Lovable: https://lovable.dev. Turn ideas into software people love.
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Neon (by Databricks) - Get up to $100K in credits for your startup at https://neon.com/mts
ElevenLabs - AI that communicates at human level across every channel and modality. https://elevenlabs.io/mts
Arena - Measuring AI performance in the real world. https://arena.ai/
Kong - The AI connectivity platform. Connect APIs, LLMs, agents, and systems with serious security and governance. https://konghq.com
Today’s stream is sponsored by VCX, the public ticker for private tech. Head over to http://getvcx.com to learn more
Blitzy - Autonomous software development for enterprise codebases. Ship 5x faster. https://blitzy.com
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Chargebee - Billing and monetization infrastructure for the AI era. https://www.chargebee.com/
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Timestamps:
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Andrew Trask, Senior Research Scientist at Google DeepMind and Executive Director of OpenMind, discusses the limits of embedded evaluators, double-blind frontier model testing via confidential compute, and why ensemble routing could decentralize the AI landscape. Check out our sponsor Lovable: https://lovable.dev. Turn ideas into software people love.
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Larridin - Finally prove what your AI investment is worth. Head to https://larridin.com/ today to start measuring your AI’s bottom line.
Neon (by Databricks) - Get up to $100K in credits for your startup at https://neon.com/mts
ElevenLabs - AI that communicates at human level across every channel and modality. https://elevenlabs.io/mts
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Kong - The AI connectivity platform. Connect APIs, LLMs, agents, and systems with serious security and governance. https://konghq.com
Today’s stream is sponsored by VCX, the public ticker for private tech. Head over to http://getvcx.com to learn more
Blitzy - Autonomous software development for enterprise codebases. Ship 5x faster. https://blitzy.com
AdQuick - Make your brand a billboard. Out-of-home advertising as easy to scale as digital. https://adquick.com
Chargebee - Billing and monetization infrastructure for the AI era. https://www.chargebee.com/
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Timestamps:
(00:00) Introduction
(00:40) Scaling Embedded Evaluators
(03:54) Addressing Evaluator Bias
(08:22) Day-to-Day Evaluator Workflows
(12:08) Preventing Benchmark Gaming
(17:45) Solving the Evaluator Talent Bottleneck
(22:14) Ensemble Routing vs. Scaling Laws
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James Cadwallader, co-founder and CEO of Profound, discusses raising $180 million at a $1.8 billion valuation to build the AI-native marketing stack. He breaks down how autonomous personal agents are transforming consumers into agentic shoppers, and how enterprise brands are shifting to agent-first marketing strategies. Check out our sponsor Lovable: https://lovable.dev. Turn ideas into software people love.
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Larridin - Finally prove what your AI investment is worth. Head to https://larridin.com/ today to start measuring your AI’s bottom line.
Neon (by Databricks) - Get up to $100K in credits for your startup at https://neon.com/mts
ElevenLabs - AI that communicates at human level across every channel and modality. https://elevenlabs.io/mts
Arena - Measuring AI performance in the real world. https://arena.ai/
Kong - The AI connectivity platform. Connect APIs, LLMs, agents, and systems with serious security and governance. https://konghq.com
Today’s stream is sponsored by VCX, the public ticker for private tech. Head over to http://getvcx.com to learn more
Blitzy - Autonomous software development for enterprise codebases. Ship 5x faster. https://blitzy.com
AdQuick - Make your brand a billboard. Out-of-home advertising as easy to scale as digital. https://adquick.com
Chargebee - Billing and monetization infrastructure for the AI era. https://www.chargebee.com/
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Timestamps:
(00:00) Introduction
(01:08) Future Of Buying
(04:00) Building Agentic Growth Tools
(07:07) Gaming AI Search Algorithms
(10:39) Rise Of Personal Agents
(12:49) Transforming Enterprise Marketing
(17:24) Expanding Beyond Marketing
(21:11) AI Marketing Predictions
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General Intuition Co-Founder and CEO Pim de Witte discusses their $220M Series A raise at a $6.2B valuation, proving sim-to-real transfer to real-world robotics using game controllers, and their thesis on scaling world models natively in pixel space. Check out our sponsor Lovable: https://lovable.dev. Turn ideas into software people love.
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Larridin - Finally prove what your AI investment is worth. Head to https://larridin.com/ today to start measuring your AI’s bottom line.
Neon (by Databricks) - Get up to $100K in credits for your startup at https://neon.com/mts
ElevenLabs - AI that communicates at human level across every channel and modality. https://elevenlabs.io/mts
Arena - Measuring AI performance in the real world. https://arena.ai/
Kong - The AI connectivity platform. Connect APIs, LLMs, agents, and systems with serious security and governance. https://konghq.com
Today’s stream is sponsored by VCX, the public ticker for private tech. Head over to http://getvcx.com to learn more
Blitzy - Autonomous software development for enterprise codebases. Ship 5x faster. https://blitzy.com
AdQuick - Make your brand a billboard. Out-of-home advertising as easy to scale as digital. https://adquick.com
Chargebee - Billing and monetization infrastructure for the AI era. https://www.chargebee.com/
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Timestamps:
(00:00) Introduction(00:53) Scaling Sim-To-Real Robotics(02:31) Hardest Challenges Building World Models(03:49) Origin Of General Intuition(05:22) Do World Models Learn Physics?(08:28) Effectiveness Of Bot-Generated Data(14:00) Next Breakthrough In Sim-To-Real(15:00) Predictions For Embodied Intelligence
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Kevin Roose discusses his new book The AGI Chronicles, detailing Dario Amodei's early 2019 scaling roadmap, eureka moments in AI history, and the internal schism at OpenAI that led to the founding of Anthropic. Check out our sponsor Lovable: https://lovable.dev. Turn ideas into software people love.
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Larridin - Finally prove what your AI investment is worth. Head to https://larridin.com/ today to start measuring your AI’s bottom line.
Neon (by Databricks) - Get up to $100K in credits for your startup at https://neon.com/mts
ElevenLabs - AI that communicates at human level across every channel and modality. https://elevenlabs.io/mts
Arena - Measuring AI performance in the real world. https://arena.ai/
Kong - The AI connectivity platform. Connect APIs, LLMs, agents, and systems with serious security and governance. https://konghq.com
Today’s stream is sponsored by VCX, the public ticker for private tech. Head over to http://getvcx.com to learn more
Blitzy - Autonomous software development for enterprise codebases. Ship 5x faster. https://blitzy.com
AdQuick - Make your brand a billboard. Out-of-home advertising as easy to scale as digital. https://adquick.com
Chargebee - Billing and monetization infrastructure for the AI era. https://www.chargebee.com/
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Timestamps:
(00:00) Introduction
(01:00) Dario’s 2019 Scaling Memo
(03:04) Why Scaling Was Ignored
(05:35) Pivotal Eureka Moments In AGI
(07:47) Documenting AI Before It Decays
(09:10) How Anthropic Schismed From OpenAI
(11:31) Feasibility Of A Government Project
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