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    Monetary Matters with Jack Farley

    Jack Farley interviews the very best financial minds about macro, markets, and monetary matters. Follow Jack on Twitter @JackFarley96.

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    The Golden Age of Fundamental Commodities Trading with Tor Svelland of Svelland Capital (18.5% Annualized Since Inception) Aug 19, 2025
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    Tor Svelland, CIO and Founder of Svelland Capital, has annualized over 18.5% net of fees since inception in 2017 in their strategy that trades a combination of commodity futures, commodity linked equities, freight derivatives, energy transition linked companies, and electricity producers. Svelland joins Other People’s Money to discuss why he believes new market participants and structural undersupply have made the current environment for commodities trading so exciting. He also discusses how he’s grown his business from personal capital to almost $1 billion in AUM with investors all over the globe.


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    Timestamps

    00:00 Intro

    04:09 Trafigura & Goldman Sachs as Commodities Trading Talent Hubs

    06:38 Launching Svelland Capital with Personal Capital

    09:03 The First Major Hurdles: 3 Years & $100m in AUM

    10:56 ESG and the Commodity Market Backdrop

    15:59 Underinvestment & Undersupply in Shipping & Commodities

    20:41 Trading Global Supply Chains Shifts

    23:44 Trade Expression & Commodities Portfolio Construction

    29:06 The Effects of New Commodity Market Participants

    36:06 TTF Gas Markets & Price Spike Potential

    39:38 Multiple PMs & The Benefits of Taking Risk

    42:05 Thinking Internationally & Advice for Young Commodities Traders

    45:56 International Investor Interest in Commodities

    48:00 Managing AUM Growth & Capacity Constraints


    Biggest Trade Shock Since Civil War | Douglas Irwin on Trump’s “Bigger Than Smoot-Hawley” Tariffs, Great Depression Balance of Payments History, and Tariff Incidence (Who Pays?) Aug 18, 2025
    Show notes

    This episode of Monetary Matters is brought to you by VanEck.

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    Renowned trade historian Douglas Irwin joins Jack to compare the ongoing shifts in American trade policy to Smoot-Hawley tariff during the Great Depression and the McKinley-era tariffs of the late 19th century of which President Trump speaks so fondly. Irwin, the John French Professor of Economics at Dartmouth College, and author of “Clashing over Commerce” and “Trade Policy Disaster” among other titles, notes that most economic historians agree that the Smoot-Hawley tariff was not the primary cause of the Great Depression. Rather, while it probably exacerbated the global economic slowdown, trade barriers in a narrow sense served their respective countries' interest in limiting gold outflows. Professor Irwin argues that current tariffs (2% to ~15%) are a greater shock than Smoot-Hawley (38% to 42%), because of the higher rate of change and because U.S. trade as a percentage of GDP is higher now than it was in the 1930s. Jack lobs pro-protectionist arguments that Irwin strongly rejects. The two reflect on balance of payments, with Irwin noting that large capital inflows into the United States are a major cause of the large and persistent U.S. trade deficit. Recorded on August 7, 2025.

    Douglas Irwin’s books discussed: “Trade Policy Disaster: Lessons from the 1930s”: https://direct.mit.edu/books/monograph/3374/Trade-Policy-DisasterLessons-from-the-1930s

    “Clashing over Commerce: A History of US Trade Policy”: https://press.uchicago.edu/ucp/books/book/chicago/C/bo24475328.html

    “Peddling Protectionism: Smoot-Hawley and the Great Depression”: https://press.princeton.edu/books/paperback/9780691178066/peddling-protectionism?srsltid=AfmBOoqh-ZTEvY-wNf7wqitXQpkh-tfA7MEOyqxhKCoeHo7WbyUaJRB9

    Douglas Irwin’s papers discussed:

    “TARIFF INCIDENCE: EVIDENCE FROM U.S. SUGAR DUTIES, 1890-1930”: https://www.nber.org/system/files/working_papers/w20635/w20635.pdf

    “HIGHER TARIFFS, LOWER REVENUES? ANALYZING THE FISCAL ASPECTS OF THE "GREAT TARIFF DEBATE OF 1888"”: https://www.nber.org/system/files/working_papers/w6239/w6239.pdf


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    Wall Street is Crushing Main Street: Juxtaposing Market Strength with Economic Softness Aug 14, 2025
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    This Monetary Matters episode is brought to you by Fiscal.ai. Sign up for a 2-week free trial and get 15% off any paid tier at: http://fiscal.ai/mm


    Jack Farley & Max Wiethe break down recent economic data on inflation and the labor market, the parade of positive earnings reports sending markets higher, and how this is representative of an economic expansion that is benefiting Wall Street while Main Street is left behind.


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    Timestamps:

    00:00 Intro

    00:46 Financial Conditions Are Easy

    01:48 Inflation Report (CPI)

    04:02 Market Strength (Wall St.) vs Economic Weakness (Main St.)

    10:13 Earnings Expectations: Priced for Perfection?

    16:13 Fiscal AI

    17:36 Are We in a Bubble?

    22:12 AI CapEx Trends

    25:42 AMZN and Earnings Season Losers

    30:38 What’s Up Next Earnings

    33:11 The New BLS and Labor Market Data

    38:12 Market Complacency and Long-term Predictions

    42:46 What’s in the Portfolio of “Super Investors”


    The ETFization of Private Credit | Leland Clemons on Fixed Income Flows, ETF Mechanics, and High-Yield Bond Market Aug 12, 2025
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    Leland Clemons, co-founder and CEO of BondBloxx, shares his view on where he thinks fixed-income ETFs are headed. He talks about the creation of the first private credit ETF (consisting of tranches of middle-market CLOs), the mechanics of ETF creation via authorized participants (APs), equity concentration risk, and increased specialization of fixed-income ETFs. Recorded August 8, 2025.


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    Waiting For The Fat Pitch | “Recession Denier” Jonny Matthews on Real Slowdown In U.S. Economic Data Aug 08, 2025
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    For many Jonny Matthews, former PM at Brevan Howard and publisher of SuperMacro, has emphatically rejected the case for a recession in the U.S. Recent economic data is causing him to reevaluate his view. While he still calls himself a “recession denier,” Matthews now thinks a slowdown is already occurring in the U.S. that will *look* like stagflation in the fall. Whether it will actually be “real stagflation” is a different question. But Matthews has a bearish view on stocks and bonds, while acknowledging that putting on these trades are difficult and that he is waiting for the right time. Recorded on August 6, 2025.


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    Deep Engagement: A Banking Approach to Classical Value Investing | Donald Zilkha of Zilkha Investments Aug 05, 2025
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    Donald Zilkha, founder of Zilkha Investments joins Other People’s Money to discuss how his deep-rooted DNA in banking and deal making has evolved into an investment strategy focused on deep research and engagement with management to affect change without upsetting the apple cart. He discusses how this strategy has evolved from single name SPVs to the commingled strategy he has today, case studies like Nathan’s Famous Hot Dogs, and why this classical style resonates with investors.


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    Timestamps

    00:00 Intro

    00:34 The Birth of Modern Banking in the Middle East

    10:27 Evolution from Venture, to SPVs, to Drawdown, to Vanilla Equity

    19:09 Engagement vs. Activism

    27:17 Nathan's Famous Hot Dogs Case Study

    33:05 Take Private Opportunities

    35:55 Investing in a "Classical" Style

    38:43 Talking About Process Instead of Positions

    45:02 Value Investing in Tech and Old-Line Businesses

    50:05 Team Continuity & Incentives

    54:18 Marketing After 10+ Years


    The Speculation Phase Begins | Michael Howell on Liquidity Cycle, China, Fiscal Dominance, and Dollar Weakening Aug 03, 2025
    Show notes

    This episode of Monetary Matters is brought to you by VanEck.

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    Michael Howell of Crossborder Capital returns to Monetary Matters to share a strategic update on his reading of the liquidity cycle. A weakening U.S. Dollar is allowing many central banks around the world to ease. With large amounts of monetary easing from China’s central bank (PBOC), falling fixed-income volatility, and a shortening of the U.S. debt term structure, which Howell calls “not yield curve control yield curve control,” Howell sees a bullish liquidity backdrop throughout the end of the year into 2026. Recorded July 21, 2025.


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    Beyond the Fed | Jack & Max on FOMC, GDP, Earnings & Tariffs Jul 31, 2025
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    This Monetary Matters episode is brought to you by Fiscal.ai.Sign up for a 2-week free trial and get 15% off any paid tier at: http://fiscal.ai/mm


    Jack Farley & Max Wiethe break down today’s FOMC rate cut decision, this morning’s GDP report, recent tariff developments as major August deadlines approach, and the big earnings reports that are moving markets.


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    Optimizing the Investment Business for Long-term Results | David Steinberg of Marlowe Partners Jul 30, 2025
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    David Steinberg, founder and CIO of Marlowe Partners joins Other People’s Money to discuss why he believes the operational and capital raising side of the investment business is the most important factor in determining success. He also discusses how he is navigating the capital raising process with a focus on weeding out investors who are not a fit for his concentrated long-term investing style, how that long-term style affects his ability to use AI in the research process, and why it is important not to be too innovative with your investment terms.


    David would also like to highlight the importance of high quality service providers and has shared three service providers he would highly recommend to other investment professionals.


    For accounting services David uses: https://rsmus.com

    For outsourced compliance services David uses: https://www.salusgrc.com

    For legal services David uses: https://www.akingump.com/en


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    Timestamps

    00:00 Intro

    00:30 The Most Important Aspect of Investing

    10:16 The Market for Concentrated Investing

    13:47 Staying in the Game

    17:45 Non-Standard Structures Are a Risk

    19:41 New Structures for Individual Investors

    27:11 Communicating Investing Process

    34:28 Using AI to Cut Investment Research Costs

    49:04 The Mission of $1B to $100B



    A US Sovereign Debt Crisis is Bullish for the Dollar | Brent Johnson Jul 27, 2025
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    This Monetary Matters episode is brought to you by VanEck.


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    Brent Johnson, CEO of Santiago Capital, joins Monetary Matters to discuss why he believes the idea that a US sovereign debt crisis could occur in a vacuum without spilling over into a global sovereign debt crisis is outlandish. He argues that because there would be knock on effects globally, any such crisis would be extremely bullish for the dollar, not bearish as many have argued. He also argues that current panic around dollar weakness is overblown and that the current battle between the Fed and the US Treasury will be won by the Treasury and usher in a new error of less autonomy and independence from the Federal Reserve, potentially sending yields and dollars higher.


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