Mind Over Murder

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BONUS: Ask Us Anything in American Detective (Part 1) Aug 15, 2025

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"Mind Over Murder" podcast hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley reply to an "Ask Us Anything" series of listener questions regarding Joe Kenda's "American Detective: Colonial Parkway Murders" TV special on the Investigation Discovery network. This is part 1 of our "Ask Us Anything" on the American Detective: Colonial Parkway Murders, and originally ran on April 14, 2025.
American Detective: Colonial Parkway Murders:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fp3rNRZnL0E
Washingtonian: A Murder on the Rappahannock River:
https://www.washingtonian.com/2019/06/27/murder-on-the-rappahannock-river-emerson-stevens-mary-harding-innocence-project/
CrimeCon: We’re going to CrimeCon again, folks! Join us in Denver for new merch, some MOM listener hangouts, and a lot of fun! Use the code MINDOVERMURDER to get 10% off your tickets between now and September! See you there!
WTKR News 3: One year after development in Colonial Parkway Murders, where do things stand?
https://www.wtkr.com/news/in-the-community/historic-triangle/one-year-after-development-in-colonial-parkway-murders-where-do-things-stand
Won't you help the Mind Over Murder podcast increase our visibility and shine the spotlight on the "Colonial Parkway Murders" and other unsolved cases? Contribute any amount you can here:
https://www.gofundme.com/f/mind-over-murder-podcast-expenses?utm_campaign=p_lico+share-sheet&utm_medium=copy_link&utm_source=customer
WTVR CBS News: Colonial Parkway murders victims' families keep hope cases will be solved:
https://www.wtvr.com/news/local-news/colonial-parkway-murders-update-april-19-2024
WAVY TV 10 News: New questions raised in Colonial Parkway murders:
https://www.wavy.com/news/local-news/new-questions-raised-in-colonial-parkway-murders/
Alan Wade Wilmer, Sr. has been named as the killer of Robin Edwards and David Knobling in the Colonial Parkway Murders in September 1987, as well as the murderer of Teresa Howell in June 1989. He has also been linked to the April 1988 disappearance and likely murder of Keith Call and Cassandra Hailey, another pair in the Colonial Parkway Murders.
13News Now investigates: A serial killer's DNA will not be entered into CODIS database:
https://www.13newsnow.com/video/news/local/13news-now-investigates/291-e82a9e0b-38e3-4f95-982a-40e960a71e49
WAVY TV 10 on the Colonial Parkway Murders Announcement with photos:
https://www.wavy.com/news/crime/deceased-man-identified-as-suspect-in-decades-old-homicides/
WTKR News 3
https://www.wtkr.com/news/is-man-linked-to-one-of-the-colonial-parkway-murders-connected-to-the-other-cases
Virginian Pilot: Who was Alan Wade Wilmer Sr.? Man suspected in two ‘Colonial Parkway’ murders died alone in 2017
https://www.pilotonline.com/2024/01/14/who-was-alan-wade-wilmer-sr-man-suspected-in-colonial-parkway-murders-died-alone-in-2017/
Colonial Parkway Murders Facebook page with more than 18,000 followers: https://www.facebook.com/ColonialParkwayCase
You can also participate in an in-depth discussion of the Colonial Parkway Murders here:
https://earonsgsk.proboards.com/board/50/colonial-parkway-murders
Mind Over Murder is proud to be a Spreaker Prime Podcaster:
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Join the discussion on our Mind Over Murder
Colonial Parkway Murders website: https://colonialparkwaymurders.com
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We launch a new episode of "Mind Over Murder" every Monday morning, and a bonus episode every Thursday morning.
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Contribute Your DNA to help solve cases: https://dnasolves.com/user/register
Follow "Mind Over Murder" on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MurderOver
Follow Bill Thomas on Twitter: https://twitter.com/BillThomas56
Follow "Colonial Parkway Murders" on Facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/ColonialParkwayCase/
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All rights reserved. Mind Over Murder, Copyright Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley,
Another Dog Productions/Absolute Zero Productions
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NEW: Ann Rule w Author Cathy Scott Aug 11, 2025

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"Mind Over Murder" podcast hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley are joined by best selling true crime author Cathy Scott, who fills us in on her new writing project, a biography of the legendary author Ann Rule.
Cathy Scott Website: http://www.cathyscott.com/
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WTKR News 3: One year after development in Colonial Parkway Murders, where do things stand?
https://www.wtkr.com/news/in-the-community/historic-triangle/one-year-after-development-in-colonial-parkway-murders-where-do-things-stand
Won't you help the Mind Over Murder podcast increase our visibility and shine the spotlight on the "Colonial Parkway Murders" and other unsolved cases? Contribute any amount you can here:
https://www.gofundme.com/f/mind-over-murder-podcast-expenses?utm_campaign=p_lico+share-sheet&utm_medium=copy_link&utm_source=customer
WTVR CBS News: Colonial Parkway murders victims' families keep hope cases will be solved:
https://www.wtvr.com/news/local-news/colonial-parkway-murders-update-april-19-2024
WAVY TV 10 News: New questions raised in Colonial Parkway murders:
https://www.wavy.com/news/local-news/new-questions-raised-in-colonial-parkway-murders/
Alan Wade Wilmer, Sr. has been named as the killer of Robin Edwards and David Knobling in the Colonial Parkway Murders in September 1987, as well as the murderer of Teresa Howell in June 1989. He has also been linked to the April 1988 disappearance and likely murder of Keith Call and Cassandra Hailey, another pair in the Colonial Parkway Murders.
13News Now investigates: A serial killer's DNA will not be entered into CODIS database:
https://www.13newsnow.com/video/news/local/13news-now-investigates/291-e82a9e0b-38e3-4f95-982a-40e960a71e49
WAVY TV 10 on the Colonial Parkway Murders Announcement with photos:
https://www.wavy.com/news/crime/deceased-man-identified-as-suspect-in-decades-old-homicides/
WTKR News 3
https://www.wtkr.com/news/is-man-linked-to-one-of-the-colonial-parkway-murders-connected-to-the-other-cases
Virginian Pilot: Who was Alan Wade Wilmer Sr.? Man suspected in two ‘Colonial Parkway’ murders died alone in 2017
https://www.pilotonline.com/2024/01/14/who-was-alan-wade-wilmer-sr-man-suspected-in-colonial-parkway-murders-died-alone-in-2017/
Colonial Parkway Murders Facebook page with more than 18,000 followers: https://www.facebook.com/ColonialParkwayCase
You can also participate in an in-depth discussion of the Colonial Parkway Murders here:
https://earonsgsk.proboards.com/board/50/colonial-parkway-murders
Mind Over Murder is proud to be a Spreaker Prime Podcaster:
https://www.spreaker.com
Join the discussion on our Mind Over Murder
Colonial Parkway Murders website: https://colonialparkwaymurders.com
Mind Over Murder Podcast website: https://mindovermurderpodcast.com
Please subscribe and rate us at your favorite podcast sites. Ratings and reviews are very important. Please share and tell your friends!
We launch a new episode of "Mind Over Murder" every Monday morning, and a bonus episode every Thursday morning.
Sponsors: Othram and DNAsolves.com
Contribute Your DNA to help solve cases: https://dnasolves.com/user/register
Follow "Mind Over Murder" on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MurderOver
Follow Bill Thomas on Twitter: https://twitter.com/BillThomas56
Follow "Colonial Parkway Murders" on Facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/ColonialParkwayCase/
Follow us on InstaGram:: https://www.instagram.com/colonialparkwaymurders/
Check out the entire Crawlspace Media network at http://crawlspace-media.com/
All rights reserved. Mind Over Murder, Copyright Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley,
Another Dog Productions/Absolute Zero Productions
Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/mind-over-murder--4847179/support.

BONUS: Chowchilla Kidnapping w FBI Profiler Jim Clemente Aug 08, 2025

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"Mind Over Murder" podcast hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley meet with former FBI Profiler (and producer and writer) Jim Clemente to discuss the parole process for the 3 men convicted in mass kidnapping of 26 elementary school students and their bus driver in rural Chowchilla, California. The crime, the largest mass kidnapping in United States history, shocked the nation in 1976. Should the 3 kidnappers have served longer? How was the trauma of the 26 young victims taken into account if at all? We also catch up all of the projects that Jim Clemente has been working on as a writer and producer. This bonus episode of "Mind Over Murder" originally ran on April 7, 2025.
CrimeCon: We’re going to CrimeCon again, folks! Join us in Denver for new merch, some MOM listener hangouts, and a lot of fun! Use the code MINDOVERMURDER to get 10% off your tickets between now and September! See you there!
"Chowchilla" Documentary on Max (highly recommended)
https://www.max.com/movies/chowchilla/35e6ffd5-2cb1-4bd4-b2f3-62064f73a7a2
WTKR News 3: One year after development in Colonial Parkway Murders, where do things stand?
https://www.wtkr.com/news/in-the-community/historic-triangle/one-year-after-development-in-colonial-parkway-murders-where-do-things-stand
Won't you help the Mind Over Murder podcast increase our visibility and shine the spotlight on the "Colonial Parkway Murders" and other unsolved cases? Contribute any amount you can here:
https://www.gofundme.com/f/mind-over-murder-podcast-expenses?utm_campaign=p_lico+share-sheet&utm_medium=copy_link&utm_source=customer
WTVR CBS News: Colonial Parkway murders victims' families keep hope cases will be solved:
https://www.wtvr.com/news/local-news/colonial-parkway-murders-update-april-19-2024
WAVY TV 10 News: New questions raised in Colonial Parkway murders:
https://www.wavy.com/news/local-news/new-questions-raised-in-colonial-parkway-murders/
Alan Wade Wilmer, Sr. has been named as the killer of Robin Edwards and David Knobling in the Colonial Parkway Murders in September 1987, as well as the murderer of Teresa Howell in June 1989. He has also been linked to the April 1988 disappearance and likely murder of Keith Call and Cassandra Hailey, another pair in the Colonial Parkway Murders.
13News Now investigates: A serial killer's DNA will not be entered into CODIS database:
https://www.13newsnow.com/video/news/local/13news-now-investigates/291-e82a9e0b-38e3-4f95-982a-40e960a71e49
WAVY TV 10 on the Colonial Parkway Murders Announcement with photos:
https://www.wavy.com/news/crime/deceased-man-identified-as-suspect-in-decades-old-homicides/
WTKR News 3
https://www.wtkr.com/news/is-man-linked-to-one-of-the-colonial-parkway-murders-connected-to-the-other-cases
Virginian Pilot: Who was Alan Wade Wilmer Sr.? Man suspected in two ‘Colonial Parkway’ murders died alone in 2017
https://www.pilotonline.com/2024/01/14/who-was-alan-wade-wilmer-sr-man-suspected-in-colonial-parkway-murders-died-alone-in-2017/
Colonial Parkway Murders Facebook page with more than 18,000 followers: https://www.facebook.com/ColonialParkwayCase
You can also participate in an in-depth discussion of the Colonial Parkway Murders here:
https://earonsgsk.proboards.com/board/50/colonial-parkway-murders
Mind Over Murder is proud to be a Spreaker Prime Podcaster:
https://www.spreaker.com
Join the discussion on our Mind Over Murder
Colonial Parkway Murders website: https://colonialparkwaymurders.com
Mind Over Murder Podcast website: https://mindovermurderpodcast.com
Please subscribe and rate us at your favorite podcast sites. Ratings and reviews are very important. Please share and tell your friends!
We launch a new episode of "Mind Over Murder" every Monday morning, and a bonus episode every Thursday morning.
Sponsors: Othram and DNAsolves.com
Contribute Your DNA to help solve cases: https://dnasolves.com/user/register
Follow "Mind Over Murder" on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MurderOver
Follow Bill Thomas on Twitter: https://twitter.com/BillThomas56
Follow "Colonial Parkway Murders" on Facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/ColonialParkwayCase/
Follow us on InstaGram:: https://www.instagram.com/colonialparkwaymurders/
Check out the entire Crawlspace Media network at http://crawlspace-media.com/
All rights reserved. Mind Over Murder, Copyright Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley,
Another Dog Productions/Absolute Zero Productions
Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/mind-over-murder--4847179/support.

NEW: Reporter Kevin Fixler on Idaho 4 Case Aug 04, 2025

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Kevin Fixler, investigative reporter for the Idaho Statesman, joins "Mind Over Murder" cohosts Kristin Dilley and Bill Thomas to discuss murder of Ethan Chapin, Xana Kernodle, Kaylee Goncalves and Madison Mogen, four college students killed by spree killer Bryan Kohberger at tgroup house in Moscow, Idaho in November 2022, in a case now known as the Idaho 4 Murders. Suspect Bryan Kohberger has recently accepted a plea arrangement to serve four consecutive life sentences in lieu of the death penalty.
Kevin Fixler Stories in the Idaho Statesman
https://www.idahostatesman.com/profile/251800473
Idaho murder victims' families read impact statements at Bryan Kohberger's sentencing | full video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5qrwu0hdZM
Alivea Goncalves, Kaylee Goncalves' sister, reads victim impact statement at Kohberger sentencing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oeL6_r5qEbI
CrimeCon: We’re going to CrimeCon again, folks! Join us in Denver for new merch, some MOM listener hangouts, and a lot of fun! Use the code MINDOVERMURDER to get 10% off your tickets between now and September! See you there!
WTKR News 3: One year after development in Colonial Parkway Murders, where do things stand?
https://www.wtkr.com/news/in-the-community/historic-triangle/one-year-after-development-in-colonial-parkway-murders-where-do-things-stand
Won't you help the Mind Over Murder podcast increase our visibility and shine the spotlight on the "Colonial Parkway Murders" and other unsolved cases? Contribute any amount you can here:
https://www.gofundme.com/f/mind-over-murder-podcast-expenses?utm_campaign=p_lico+share-sheet&utm_medium=copy_link&utm_source=customer
WTVR CBS News: Colonial Parkway murders victims' families keep hope cases will be solved:
https://www.wtvr.com/news/local-news/colonial-parkway-murders-update-april-19-2024
WAVY TV 10 News: New questions raised in Colonial Parkway murders:
https://www.wavy.com/news/local-news/new-questions-raised-in-colonial-parkway-murders/
Alan Wade Wilmer, Sr. has been named as the killer of Robin Edwards and David Knobling in the Colonial Parkway Murders in September 1987, as well as the murderer of Teresa Howell in June 1989. He has also been linked to the April 1988 disappearance and likely murder of Keith Call and Cassandra Hailey, another pair in the Colonial Parkway Murders.
13News Now investigates: A serial killer's DNA will not be entered into CODIS database:
https://www.13newsnow.com/video/news/local/13news-now-investigates/291-e82a9e0b-38e3-4f95-982a-40e960a71e49
WAVY TV 10 on the Colonial Parkway Murders Announcement with photos:
https://www.wavy.com/news/crime/deceased-man-identified-as-suspect-in-decades-old-homicides/
WTKR News 3
https://www.wtkr.com/news/is-man-linked-to-one-of-the-colonial-parkway-murders-connected-to-the-other-cases
Virginian Pilot: Who was Alan Wade Wilmer Sr.? Man suspected in two ‘Colonial Parkway’ murders died alone in 2017
https://www.pilotonline.com/2024/01/14/who-was-alan-wade-wilmer-sr-man-suspected-in-colonial-parkway-murders-died-alone-in-2017/
Colonial Parkway Murders Facebook page with more than 18,000 followers: https://www.facebook.com/ColonialParkwayCase
You can also participate in an in-depth discussion of the Colonial Parkway Murders here:
https://earonsgsk.proboards.com/board/50/colonial-parkway-murders
Mind Over Murder is proud to be a Spreaker Prime Podcaster:
https://www.spreaker.com
Join the discussion on our Mind Over Murder
Colonial Parkway Murders website: https://colonialparkwaymurders.com
Mind Over Murder Podcast website: https://mindovermurderpodcast.com
Please subscribe and rate us at your favorite podcast sites. Ratings and reviews are very important. Please share and tell your friends!
We launch a new episode of "Mind Over Murder" every Monday morning, and a bonus episode every Thursday morning.
Sponsors: Othram and DNAsolves.com
Contribute Your DNA to help solve cases: https://dnasolves.com/user/register
Follow "Mind Over Murder" on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MurderOver
Follow Bill Thomas on Twitter: https://twitter.com/BillThomas56
Follow "Colonial Parkway Murders" on Facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/ColonialParkwayCase/
Follow us on InstaGram:: https://www.instagram.com/colonialparkwaymurders/
Check out the entire Crawlspace Media network at http://crawlspace-media.com/
All rights reserved. Mind Over Murder, Copyright Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley,
Another Dog Productions/Absolute Zero Productions
Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/mind-over-murder--4847179/support.

NEW: Idaho 4 Victim Impact Statements (Part 2) Aug 01, 2025

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"Mind Over Murder" cohosts Kristin Dilley and Bill Thomas discuss the victim impact statements provided by family and friends of Ethan Chapin, Xana Kernodle, Kaylee Goncalves and Madison Mogen, four college students murdered by spree killer Bryan Kohberger at their group house in Moscow, Idaho in November 2022. Kohberger has recently accepted a plea arrangement to serve four consecutive life sentences in lieu of the death penalty. This is part 2 of two parts covering the victim impact statements.
Idaho murder victims' families read impact statements at Bryan Kohberger's sentencing | full video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5qrwu0hdZM
Alivea Goncalves, Kaylee Goncalves' sister, reads victim impact statement at Kohberger sentencing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oeL6_r5qEbI
CrimeCon: We’re going to CrimeCon again, folks! Join us in Denver for new merch, some MOM listener hangouts, and a lot of fun! Use the code MINDOVERMURDER to get 10% off your tickets between now and September! See you there!
WTKR News 3: One year after development in Colonial Parkway Murders, where do things stand?
https://www.wtkr.com/news/in-the-community/historic-triangle/one-year-after-development-in-colonial-parkway-murders-where-do-things-stand
Won't you help the Mind Over Murder podcast increase our visibility and shine the spotlight on the "Colonial Parkway Murders" and other unsolved cases? Contribute any amount you can here:
https://www.gofundme.com/f/mind-over-murder-podcast-expenses?utm_campaign=p_lico+share-sheet&utm_medium=copy_link&utm_source=customer
WTVR CBS News: Colonial Parkway murders victims' families keep hope cases will be solved:
https://www.wtvr.com/news/local-news/colonial-parkway-murders-update-april-19-2024
WAVY TV 10 News: New questions raised in Colonial Parkway murders:
https://www.wavy.com/news/local-news/new-questions-raised-in-colonial-parkway-murders/
Alan Wade Wilmer, Sr. has been named as the killer of Robin Edwards and David Knobling in the Colonial Parkway Murders in September 1987, as well as the murderer of Teresa Howell in June 1989. He has also been linked to the April 1988 disappearance and likely murder of Keith Call and Cassandra Hailey, another pair in the Colonial Parkway Murders.
13News Now investigates: A serial killer's DNA will not be entered into CODIS database:
https://www.13newsnow.com/video/news/local/13news-now-investigates/291-e82a9e0b-38e3-4f95-982a-40e960a71e49
WAVY TV 10 on the Colonial Parkway Murders Announcement with photos:
https://www.wavy.com/news/crime/deceased-man-identified-as-suspect-in-decades-old-homicides/
WTKR News 3
https://www.wtkr.com/news/is-man-linked-to-one-of-the-colonial-parkway-murders-connected-to-the-other-cases
Virginian Pilot: Who was Alan Wade Wilmer Sr.? Man suspected in two ‘Colonial Parkway’ murders died alone in 2017
https://www.pilotonline.com/2024/01/14/who-was-alan-wade-wilmer-sr-man-suspected-in-colonial-parkway-murders-died-alone-in-2017/
Colonial Parkway Murders Facebook page with more than 18,000 followers: https://www.facebook.com/ColonialParkwayCase
You can also participate in an in-depth discussion of the Colonial Parkway Murders here:
https://earonsgsk.proboards.com/board/50/colonial-parkway-murders
Mind Over Murder is proud to be a Spreaker Prime Podcaster:
https://www.spreaker.com
Join the discussion on our Mind Over Murder
Colonial Parkway Murders website: https://colonialparkwaymurders.com
Mind Over Murder Podcast website: https://mindovermurderpodcast.com
Please subscribe and rate us at your favorite podcast sites. Ratings and reviews are very important. Please share and tell your friends!
We launch a new episode of "Mind Over Murder" every Monday morning, and a bonus episode every Thursday morning.
Sponsors: Othram and DNAsolves.com
Contribute Your DNA to help solve cases: https://dnasolves.com/user/register
Follow "Mind Over Murder" on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MurderOver
Follow Bill Thomas on Twitter: https://twitter.com/BillThomas56
Follow "Colonial Parkway Murders" on Facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/ColonialParkwayCase/
Follow us on InstaGram:: https://www.instagram.com/colonialparkwaymurders/
Check out the entire Crawlspace Media network at http://crawlspace-media.com/
All rights reserved. Mind Over Murder, Copyright Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley,
Another Dog Productions/Absolute Zero Productions
Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/mind-over-murder--4847179/support.

NEW: Idaho 4 Victim Impact Statements (Part 1) Jul 28, 2025

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"Mind Over Murder" cohosts Kristin Dilley and Bill Thomas discuss the victim impact statements provided by family and friends of Ethan Chapin, Xana Kernodle, Kaylee Goncalves and Madison Mogen, four college students murdered by spree killer Bryan Kohberger at their group house in Moscow, Idaho in November 2022. Kohberger has recently accepted a plea arrangement to serve four consecutive life sentences in lieu of the death penalty. This is part 1 of two parts covering the victim impact statements.
Idaho murder victims' families read impact statements at Bryan Kohberger's sentencing | full video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5qrwu0hdZM
Alivea Goncalves, Kaylee Goncalves' sister, reads victim impact statement at Kohberger sentencing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oeL6_r5qEbI
CrimeCon: We’re going to CrimeCon again, folks! Join us in Denver for new merch, some MOM listener hangouts, and a lot of fun! Use the code MINDOVERMURDER to get 10% off your tickets between now and September! See you there!
WTKR News 3: One year after development in Colonial Parkway Murders, where do things stand?
https://www.wtkr.com/news/in-the-community/historic-triangle/one-year-after-development-in-colonial-parkway-murders-where-do-things-stand
Won't you help the Mind Over Murder podcast increase our visibility and shine the spotlight on the "Colonial Parkway Murders" and other unsolved cases? Contribute any amount you can here:
https://www.gofundme.com/f/mind-over-murder-podcast-expenses?utm_campaign=p_lico+share-sheet&utm_medium=copy_link&utm_source=customer
WTVR CBS News: Colonial Parkway murders victims' families keep hope cases will be solved:
https://www.wtvr.com/news/local-news/colonial-parkway-murders-update-april-19-2024
WAVY TV 10 News: New questions raised in Colonial Parkway murders:
https://www.wavy.com/news/local-news/new-questions-raised-in-colonial-parkway-murders/
Alan Wade Wilmer, Sr. has been named as the killer of Robin Edwards and David Knobling in the Colonial Parkway Murders in September 1987, as well as the murderer of Teresa Howell in June 1989. He has also been linked to the April 1988 disappearance and likely murder of Keith Call and Cassandra Hailey, another pair in the Colonial Parkway Murders.
13News Now investigates: A serial killer's DNA will not be entered into CODIS database:
https://www.13newsnow.com/video/news/local/13news-now-investigates/291-e82a9e0b-38e3-4f95-982a-40e960a71e49
WAVY TV 10 on the Colonial Parkway Murders Announcement with photos:
https://www.wavy.com/news/crime/deceased-man-identified-as-suspect-in-decades-old-homicides/
WTKR News 3
https://www.wtkr.com/news/is-man-linked-to-one-of-the-colonial-parkway-murders-connected-to-the-other-cases
Virginian Pilot: Who was Alan Wade Wilmer Sr.? Man suspected in two ‘Colonial Parkway’ murders died alone in 2017
https://www.pilotonline.com/2024/01/14/who-was-alan-wade-wilmer-sr-man-suspected-in-colonial-parkway-murders-died-alone-in-2017/
Colonial Parkway Murders Facebook page with more than 18,000 followers: https://www.facebook.com/ColonialParkwayCase
You can also participate in an in-depth discussion of the Colonial Parkway Murders here:
https://earonsgsk.proboards.com/board/50/colonial-parkway-murders
Mind Over Murder is proud to be a Spreaker Prime Podcaster:
https://www.spreaker.com
Join the discussion on our Mind Over Murder
Colonial Parkway Murders website: https://colonialparkwaymurders.com
Mind Over Murder Podcast website: https://mindovermurderpodcast.com
Please subscribe and rate us at your favorite podcast sites. Ratings and reviews are very important. Please share and tell your friends!
We launch a new episode of "Mind Over Murder" every Monday morning, and a bonus episode every Thursday morning.
Sponsors: Othram and DNAsolves.com
Contribute Your DNA to help solve cases: https://dnasolves.com/user/register
Follow "Mind Over Murder" on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MurderOver
Follow Bill Thomas on Twitter: https://twitter.com/BillThomas56
Follow "Colonial Parkway Murders" on Facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/ColonialParkwayCase/
Follow us on InstaGram:: https://www.instagram.com/colonialparkwaymurders/
Check out the entire Crawlspace Media network at http://crawlspace-media.com/
All rights reserved. Mind Over Murder, Copyright Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley,
Another Dog Productions/Absolute Zero Productions
Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/mind-over-murder--4847179/support.

BONUS: Chowchilla Kidnap Parole w Prosecutor Matt Murphy Jul 25, 2025

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"Mind Over Murder" podcast hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley meet with retired prosecutor Matt Murphy to discuss the parole process for the 3 men convicted in mass kidnapping of 26 elementary school students and their bus driver in rural Chowchilla, California. The crime, the largest mass kidnapping in United States history, shocked the nation in 1976. How does the California parole system work? What impact did the kidnapping have on the 26 survivors? Why were the three kidnappers ultimately paroled? This bonus episode of "Mind Over Murder" originally ran on March 31, 2025.
"Chowchilla" Documentary on Max (highly recommended)
https://www.max.com/movies/chowchilla/35e6ffd5-2cb1-4bd4-b2f3-62064f73a7a2
Matt Murphy The Book of Murder: A Prosecutor’s Journey Through Love and Death
https://www.thebookofmurder.com/
CrimeCon: We’re going to CrimeCon again, folks! Join us in Denver for new merch, some MOM listener hangouts, and a lot of fun! Use the code MINDOVERMURDER to get 10% off your tickets between now and September! See you there!
WTKR News 3: One year after development in Colonial Parkway Murders, where do things stand?
https://www.wtkr.com/news/in-the-community/historic-triangle/one-year-after-development-in-colonial-parkway-murders-where-do-things-stand
Won't you help the Mind Over Murder podcast increase our visibility and shine the spotlight on the "Colonial Parkway Murders" and other unsolved cases? Contribute any amount you can here:
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WTVR CBS News: Colonial Parkway murders victims' families keep hope cases will be solved:
https://www.wtvr.com/news/local-news/colonial-parkway-murders-update-april-19-2024
WAVY TV 10 News: New questions raised in Colonial Parkway murders:
https://www.wavy.com/news/local-news/new-questions-raised-in-colonial-parkway-murders/
Alan Wade Wilmer, Sr. has been named as the killer of Robin Edwards and David Knobling in the Colonial Parkway Murders in September 1987, as well as the murderer of Teresa Howell in June 1989. He has also been linked to the April 1988 disappearance and likely murder of Keith Call and Cassandra Hailey, another pair in the Colonial Parkway Murders.
13News Now investigates: A serial killer's DNA will not be entered into CODIS database:
https://www.13newsnow.com/video/news/local/13news-now-investigates/291-e82a9e0b-38e3-4f95-982a-40e960a71e49
WAVY TV 10 on the Colonial Parkway Murders Announcement with photos:
https://www.wavy.com/news/crime/deceased-man-identified-as-suspect-in-decades-old-homicides/
WTKR News 3
https://www.wtkr.com/news/is-man-linked-to-one-of-the-colonial-parkway-murders-connected-to-the-other-cases
Virginian Pilot: Who was Alan Wade Wilmer Sr.? Man suspected in two ‘Colonial Parkway’ murders died alone in 2017
https://www.pilotonline.com/2024/01/14/who-was-alan-wade-wilmer-sr-man-suspected-in-colonial-parkway-murders-died-alone-in-2017/
Colonial Parkway Murders Facebook page with more than 18,000 followers: https://www.facebook.com/ColonialParkwayCase
You can also participate in an in-depth discussion of the Colonial Parkway Murders here:
https://earonsgsk.proboards.com/board/50/colonial-parkway-murders
Mind Over Murder is proud to be a Spreaker Prime Podcaster:
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Colonial Parkway Murders website: https://colonialparkwaymurders.com
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NEW: Confession Killers w Katherine Ramsland Jul 21, 2025

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Criminal Psychologist Katherine Ramsland joins "Mind Over Murder" co-hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley to discuss confession killers, those criminals who confess to murders and other serious crimes that they did not commit. Why do serial killers like Henry Lee Lucas, Ottis Toole and Samuel Little confess to scores of additional murders? Why does this odd phenomenon keep recurring?
Time: The Story of Henry Lee Lucas, the Notorious Subject of Netflix’s The Confession Killer
ttps://time.com/5745028/the-confession-killer-henry-lee-lucas-netflix/
Katherine Ramsland books:
https://www.amazon.com/stores/author/B000APFCQC?entity-to-process=B000APBAP4_author&ccs_id=52a60865-148b-45d0-a588-fb8cefc40647
CrimeCon: We’re going to CrimeCon again, folks! Join us in Denver for new merch, some MOM listener hangouts, and a lot of fun! Use the code MINDOVERMURDER to get 10% off your tickets between now and September! See you there!
WTKR News 3: One year after development in Colonial Parkway Murders, where do things stand?
https://www.wtkr.com/news/in-the-community/historic-triangle/one-year-after-development-in-colonial-parkway-murders-where-do-things-stand
Won't you help the Mind Over Murder podcast increase our visibility and shine the spotlight on the "Colonial Parkway Murders" and other unsolved cases? Contribute any amount you can here:
https://www.gofundme.com/f/mind-over-murder-podcast-expenses?utm_campaign=p_lico+share-sheet&utm_medium=copy_link&utm_source=customer
WTVR CBS News: Colonial Parkway murders victims' families keep hope cases will be solved:
https://www.wtvr.com/news/local-news/colonial-parkway-murders-update-april-19-2024
WAVY TV 10 News: New questions raised in Colonial Parkway murders:
https://www.wavy.com/news/local-news/new-questions-raised-in-colonial-parkway-murders/
Alan Wade Wilmer, Sr. has been named as the killer of Robin Edwards and David Knobling in the Colonial Parkway Murders in September 1987, as well as the murderer of Teresa Howell in June 1989. He has also been linked to the April 1988 disappearance and likely murder of Keith Call and Cassandra Hailey, another pair in the Colonial Parkway Murders.
13News Now investigates: A serial killer's DNA will not be entered into CODIS database:
https://www.13newsnow.com/video/news/local/13news-now-investigates/291-e82a9e0b-38e3-4f95-982a-40e960a71e49
WAVY TV 10 on the Colonial Parkway Murders Announcement with photos:
https://www.wavy.com/news/crime/deceased-man-identified-as-suspect-in-decades-old-homicides/
WTKR News 3
https://www.wtkr.com/news/is-man-linked-to-one-of-the-colonial-parkway-murders-connected-to-the-other-cases
Virginian Pilot: Who was Alan Wade Wilmer Sr.? Man suspected in two ‘Colonial Parkway’ murders died alone in 2017
https://www.pilotonline.com/2024/01/14/who-was-alan-wade-wilmer-sr-man-suspected-in-colonial-parkway-murders-died-alone-in-2017/
Colonial Parkway Murders Facebook page with more than 18,000 followers: https://www.facebook.com/ColonialParkwayCase
You can also participate in an in-depth discussion of the Colonial Parkway Murders here:
https://earonsgsk.proboards.com/board/50/colonial-parkway-murders
Mind Over Murder is proud to be a Spreaker Prime Podcaster:
https://www.spreaker.com
Join the discussion on our Mind Over Murder
Colonial Parkway Murders website: https://colonialparkwaymurders.com
Mind Over Murder Podcast website: https://mindovermurderpodcast.com
Please subscribe and rate us at your favorite podcast sites. Ratings and reviews are very important. Please share and tell your friends!
We launch a new episode of "Mind Over Murder" every Monday morning, and a bonus episode every Thursday morning.
Sponsors: Othram and DNAsolves.com
Contribute Your DNA to help solve cases: https://dnasolves.com/user/register
Follow "Mind Over Murder" on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MurderOver
Follow Bill Thomas on Twitter: https://twitter.com/BillThomas56
Follow "Colonial Parkway Murders" on Facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/ColonialParkwayCase/
Follow us on InstaGram:: https://www.instagram.com/colonialparkwaymurders/
Check out the entire Crawlspace Media network at http://crawlspace-media.com/
All rights reserved. Mind Over Murder, Copyright Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley,
Another Dog Productions/Absolute Zero Productions
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BONUS: Chowchilla Mass Kidnapping Case Jul 17, 2025

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"Mind Over Murder" podcast hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley discuss the mass kidnapping of 26 elementary school students and their bus driver in rural Chowchilla, California. The crime, the largest mass kidnapping in United States history, shocked the nation in 1976. How did three rich kids plan and execute this heinous crime? Why did their plans fall apart so quickly? What impact did the kidnapping have on the 26 survivors? Why were the three kidnappers ultimately paroled? Thos bonus episode of "Mind Over Murder" originally ran on March 24, 2025.
"Chowchilla" Documentary on Max (highly recommended)
https://www.max.com/movies/chowchilla/35e6ffd5-2cb1-4bd4-b2f3-62064f73a7a2
WTKR News 3: One year after development in Colonial Parkway Murders, where do things stand?
https://www.wtkr.com/news/in-the-community/historic-triangle/one-year-after-development-in-colonial-parkway-murders-where-do-things-stand
Won't you help the Mind Over Murder podcast increase our visibility and shine the spotlight on the "Colonial Parkway Murders" and other unsolved cases? Contribute any amount you can here:
https://www.gofundme.com/f/mind-over-murder-podcast-expenses?utm_campaign=p_lico+share-sheet&utm_medium=copy_link&utm_source=customer
WTVR CBS News: Colonial Parkway murders victims' families keep hope cases will be solved:
https://www.wtvr.com/news/local-news/colonial-parkway-murders-update-april-19-2024
WAVY TV 10 News: New questions raised in Colonial Parkway murders:
https://www.wavy.com/news/local-news/new-questions-raised-in-colonial-parkway-murders/
Alan Wade Wilmer, Sr. has been named as the killer of Robin Edwards and David Knobling in the Colonial Parkway Murders in September 1987, as well as the murderer of Teresa Howell in June 1989. He has also been linked to the April 1988 disappearance and likely murder of Keith Call and Cassandra Hailey, another pair in the Colonial Parkway Murders.
13News Now investigates: A serial killer's DNA will not be entered into CODIS database:
https://www.13newsnow.com/video/news/local/13news-now-investigates/291-e82a9e0b-38e3-4f95-982a-40e960a71e49
WAVY TV 10 on the Colonial Parkway Murders Announcement with photos:
https://www.wavy.com/news/crime/deceased-man-identified-as-suspect-in-decades-old-homicides/
WTKR News 3
https://www.wtkr.com/news/is-man-linked-to-one-of-the-colonial-parkway-murders-connected-to-the-other-cases
Virginian Pilot: Who was Alan Wade Wilmer Sr.? Man suspected in two ‘Colonial Parkway’ murders died alone in 2017
https://www.pilotonline.com/2024/01/14/who-was-alan-wade-wilmer-sr-man-suspected-in-colonial-parkway-murders-died-alone-in-2017/
Colonial Parkway Murders Facebook page with more than 18,000 followers: https://www.facebook.com/ColonialParkwayCase
You can also participate in an in-depth discussion of the Colonial Parkway Murders here:
https://earonsgsk.proboards.com/board/50/colonial-parkway-murders
Mind Over Murder is proud to be a Spreaker Prime Podcaster:
https://www.spreaker.com
Join the discussion on our Mind Over Murder
Colonial Parkway Murders website: https://colonialparkwaymurders.com
Mind Over Murder Podcast website: https://mindovermurderpodcast.com
Please subscribe and rate us at your favorite podcast sites. Ratings and reviews are very important. Please share and tell your friends!
We launch a new episode of "Mind Over Murder" every Monday morning, and a bonus episode every Thursday morning.
Sponsors: Othram and DNAsolves.com
Contribute Your DNA to help solve cases: https://dnasolves.com/user/register
Follow "Mind Over Murder" on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MurderOver
Follow Bill Thomas on Twitter: https://twitter.com/BillThomas56
Follow "Colonial Parkway Murders" on Facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/ColonialParkwayCase/
Follow us on InstaGram:: https://www.instagram.com/colonialparkwaymurders/
Check out the entire Crawlspace Media network at http://crawlspace-media.com/
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NEW: New Bedford Serial Killings w Maureen Boyle Jul 14, 2025

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Author and journalist Maureen Boyle joins "Mind Over Murder" co-hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley to discuss her book "Shallow Graves: The Hunt for the New Bedford Highway Serial Killer."
The book tells the harrowing story of the still unsolved murder of 9 women who were left for dead off highways near New Bedford, Massachusetts, together with two others who went missing and have never been found.
Shallow Graves: The Hunt for the New Bedford Highway Serial Killer:
https://shallowgravesthebook.com/
Goodreads: Shallow Graves: The Hunt for the New Bedford Highway Serial Killer:
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/34763228-shallow-graves
WTKR News 3: One year after development in Colonial Parkway Murders, where do things stand?
https://www.wtkr.com/news/in-the-community/historic-triangle/one-year-after-development-in-colonial-parkway-murders-where-do-things-stand
Won't you help the Mind Over Murder podcast increase our visibility and shine the spotlight on the "Colonial Parkway Murders" and other unsolved cases? Contribute any amount you can here:
https://www.gofundme.com/f/mind-over-murder-podcast-expenses?utm_campaign=p_lico+share-sheet&utm_medium=copy_link&utm_source=customer
WTVR CBS News: Colonial Parkway murders victims' families keep hope cases will be solved:
https://www.wtvr.com/news/local-news/colonial-parkway-murders-update-april-19-2024
WAVY TV 10 News: New questions raised in Colonial Parkway murders:
https://www.wavy.com/news/local-news/new-questions-raised-in-colonial-parkway-murders/
Alan Wade Wilmer, Sr. has been named as the killer of Robin Edwards and David Knobling in the Colonial Parkway Murders in September 1987, as well as the murderer of Teresa Howell in June 1989. He has also been linked to the April 1988 disappearance and likely murder of Keith Call and Cassandra Hailey, another pair in the Colonial Parkway Murders.
13News Now investigates: A serial killer's DNA will not be entered into CODIS database:
https://www.13newsnow.com/video/news/local/13news-now-investigates/291-e82a9e0b-38e3-4f95-982a-40e960a71e49
WAVY TV 10 on the Colonial Parkway Murders Announcement with photos:
https://www.wavy.com/news/crime/deceased-man-identified-as-suspect-in-decades-old-homicides/
WTKR News 3
https://www.wtkr.com/news/is-man-linked-to-one-of-the-colonial-parkway-murders-connected-to-the-other-cases
Virginian Pilot: Who was Alan Wade Wilmer Sr.? Man suspected in two ‘Colonial Parkway’ murders died alone in 2017
https://www.pilotonline.com/2024/01/14/who-was-alan-wade-wilmer-sr-man-suspected-in-colonial-parkway-murders-died-alone-in-2017/
Colonial Parkway Murders Facebook page with more than 18,000 followers: https://www.facebook.com/ColonialParkwayCase
You can also participate in an in-depth discussion of the Colonial Parkway Murders here:
https://earonsgsk.proboards.com/board/50/colonial-parkway-murders
Mind Over Murder is proud to be a Spreaker Prime Podcaster:
https://www.spreaker.com
Join the discussion on our Mind Over Murder
Colonial Parkway Murders website: https://colonialparkwaymurders.com
Mind Over Murder Podcast website: https://mindovermurderpodcast.com
Please subscribe and rate us at your favorite podcast sites. Ratings and reviews are very important. Please share and tell your friends!
We launch a new episode of "Mind Over Murder" every Monday morning, and a bonus episode every Thursday morning.
Sponsors: Othram and DNAsolves.com
Contribute Your DNA to help solve cases: https://dnasolves.com/user/register
Follow "Mind Over Murder" on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MurderOver
Follow Bill Thomas on Twitter: https://twitter.com/BillThomas56
Follow "Colonial Parkway Murders" on Facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/ColonialParkwayCase/
Follow us on InstaGram:: https://www.instagram.com/colonialparkwaymurders/
Check out the entire Crawlspace Media network at http://crawlspace-media.com/
All rights reserved. Mind Over Murder, Copyright Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley,
Another Dog Productions/Absolute Zero Productions
Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/mind-over-murder--4847179/support.

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