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BONUS: Skyjacked w DB Cooper (Part 1) Sep 19, 2025

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"Mind Over Murder" hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley discuss the mysterious case of D B Cooper, who successfully hijacked a Northwest Airlines passenger jet and parachuted into the dense forest of the Pacific Northwest. He was never caught, although a small amount of the $200,000 ransom was later recovered. This bonus episode is Part 1 of 4 parts on the Dan "DB" Cooper case and originally ran in May/June 2025.
October 2023 Popular Mechanics article--Newcomb:
https://www.popularmechanics.com/flight/airlines/a43298881/db-cooper-case-could-be-
solved-dna/
October 2023 Popular Mechanics article—Natale:
https://www.popularmechanics.com/flight/a45639586/who-was-db-cooper/
January 2024 Popular Mechanics article:
https://www.popularmechanics.com/flight/a46332899/new-evidence-db-cooper-mystery/
February 2024 Popular Mechanics article:
https://www.popularmechanics.com/flight/a46788110/db-cooper-confession-new-
evidence-identity/
History.Com: https://www.history.com/articles/who-was-d-b-cooper
FBI.GOV: https://www.fbi.gov/history/famous-cases/db-cooper-hijacking
September 2011 NPR: All Things Considered interview:
https://www.npr.org/2011/09/25/140216653/skyjack-the-unsolved-case-of-d-b-coopers-
escape
DB Cooper: https://dbcooperhijack.com/2019/01/04/d-b-cooper-cary-grant-and-the-
1959-film-north-by-northwest/
WTKR News 3: One year after development in Colonial Parkway Murders, where do things stand?
https://www.wtkr.com/news/in-the-community/historic-triangle/one-year-after-development-in-colonial-parkway-murders-where-do-things-stand
Won't you help the Mind Over Murder podcast increase our visibility and shine the spotlight on the "Colonial Parkway Murders" and other unsolved cases? Contribute any amount you can here:
https://www.gofundme.com/f/mind-over-murder-podcast-expenses?utm_campaign=p_lico+share-sheet&utm_medium=copy_link&utm_source=customer
WTVR CBS News: Colonial Parkway murders victims' families keep hope cases will be solved:
https://www.wtvr.com/news/local-news/colonial-parkway-murders-update-april-19-2024
WAVY TV 10 News: New questions raised in Colonial Parkway murders:
https://www.wavy.com/news/local-news/new-questions-raised-in-colonial-parkway-murders/
Alan Wade Wilmer, Sr. has been named as the killer of Robin Edwards and David Knobling in the Colonial Parkway Murders in September 1987, as well as the murderer of Teresa Howell in June 1989. He has also been linked to the April 1988 disappearance and likely murder of Keith Call and Cassandra Hailey, another pair in the Colonial Parkway Murders.
13News Now investigates: A serial killer's DNA will not be entered into CODIS database:
https://www.13newsnow.com/video/news/local/13news-now-investigates/291-e82a9e0b-38e3-4f95-982a-40e960a71e49
WAVY TV 10 on the Colonial Parkway Murders Announcement with photos:
https://www.wavy.com/news/crime/deceased-man-identified-as-suspect-in-decades-old-homicides/
WTKR News 3
https://www.wtkr.com/news/is-man-linked-to-one-of-the-colonial-parkway-murders-connected-to-the-other-cases
Virginian Pilot: Who was Alan Wade Wilmer Sr.? Man suspected in two ‘Colonial Parkway’ murders died alone in 2017
https://www.pilotonline.com/2024/01/14/who-was-alan-wade-wilmer-sr-man-suspected-in-colonial-parkway-murders-died-alone-in-2017/
Colonial Parkway Murders Facebook page with more than 18,000 followers: https://www.facebook.com/ColonialParkwayCase
You can also participate in an in-depth discussion of the Colonial Parkway Murders here:
https://earonsgsk.proboards.com/board/50/colonial-parkway-murders
Mind Over Murder is proud to be a Spreaker Prime Podcaster:
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Join the discussion on our Mind Over Murder
Colonial Parkway Murders website: https://colonialparkwaymurders.com
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We launch a new episode of "Mind Over Murder" every Monday morning, and a bonus episode every Thursday morning.
Sponsors: Othram and DNAsolves.com
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Follow "Mind Over Murder" on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MurderOver
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Check out the entire Crawlspace Media network at http://crawlspace-media.com/
All rights reserved. Mind Over Murder, Copyright Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley,
Another Dog Productions/Absolute Zero Productions
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NEW: CrimeCon Denver 2025 Report Sep 15, 2025

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Join "Mind Over Murder" hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley as they discuss the recent CrimeCon 2025 held a week ago in Denver-- nearly 7,000 fans gathered for a fun, informative and inspiring weekend covering all things true crime. We get into the CrimeCon CLUE Awards, great interactions with fans, podcasters and the denizens of Creator's Row, CrimeCon likes and dislikes (way more likes than dislikes!), and preview CrimeCon 2026, to be held May 29-31, 2026 in Las Vegas.
Colorado Public Radio: CrimeCon 2025 draws thousands to Gaylord Rockies in Aurora:
https://www.cpr.org/2025/09/06/crimecon-2025-true-crime-denver-aurora/
CrimeCon in the media: https://www.crimecon.com/in-the-media
CrimeCon 2026: https://www.crimecon.com/CC26
WTKR News 3: One year after development in Colonial Parkway Murders, where do things stand?
https://www.wtkr.com/news/in-the-community/historic-triangle/one-year-after-development-in-colonial-parkway-murders-where-do-things-stand
Won't you help the Mind Over Murder podcast increase our visibility and shine the spotlight on the "Colonial Parkway Murders" and other unsolved cases? Contribute any amount you can here:
https://www.gofundme.com/f/mind-over-murder-podcast-expenses?utm_campaign=p_lico+share-sheet&utm_medium=copy_link&utm_source=customer
WTVR CBS News: Colonial Parkway murders victims' families keep hope cases will be solved:
https://www.wtvr.com/news/local-news/colonial-parkway-murders-update-april-19-2024
WAVY TV 10 News: New questions raised in Colonial Parkway murders:
https://www.wavy.com/news/local-news/new-questions-raised-in-colonial-parkway-murders/
Alan Wade Wilmer, Sr. has been named as the killer of Robin Edwards and David Knobling in the Colonial Parkway Murders in September 1987, as well as the murderer of Teresa Howell in June 1989. He has also been linked to the April 1988 disappearance and likely murder of Keith Call and Cassandra Hailey, another pair in the Colonial Parkway Murders.
13News Now investigates: A serial killer's DNA will not be entered into CODIS database:
https://www.13newsnow.com/video/news/local/13news-now-investigates/291-e82a9e0b-38e3-4f95-982a-40e960a71e49
WAVY TV 10 on the Colonial Parkway Murders Announcement with photos:
https://www.wavy.com/news/crime/deceased-man-identified-as-suspect-in-decades-old-homicides/
WTKR News 3
https://www.wtkr.com/news/is-man-linked-to-one-of-the-colonial-parkway-murders-connected-to-the-other-cases
Virginian Pilot: Who was Alan Wade Wilmer Sr.? Man suspected in two ‘Colonial Parkway’ murders died alone in 2017
https://www.pilotonline.com/2024/01/14/who-was-alan-wade-wilmer-sr-man-suspected-in-colonial-parkway-murders-died-alone-in-2017/
Colonial Parkway Murders Facebook page with more than 18,000 followers: https://www.facebook.com/ColonialParkwayCase
You can also participate in an in-depth discussion of the Colonial Parkway Murders here:
https://earonsgsk.proboards.com/board/50/colonial-parkway-murders
Mind Over Murder is proud to be a Spreaker Prime Podcaster:
https://www.spreaker.com
Join the discussion on our Mind Over Murder
Colonial Parkway Murders website: https://colonialparkwaymurders.com
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Please subscribe and rate us at your favorite podcast sites. Ratings and reviews are very important. Please share and tell your friends!
We launch a new episode of "Mind Over Murder" every Monday morning, and a bonus episode every Thursday morning.
Sponsors: Othram and DNAsolves.com
Contribute Your DNA to help solve cases: https://dnasolves.com/user/register
Follow "Mind Over Murder" on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MurderOver
Follow Bill Thomas on Twitter: https://twitter.com/BillThomas56
Follow "Colonial Parkway Murders" on Facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/ColonialParkwayCase/
Follow us on InstaGram:: https://www.instagram.com/colonialparkwaymurders/
All rights reserved. Mind Over Murder, Copyright Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley,
Another Dog Productions/Absolute Zero Productions
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BONUS: The Zodiac Killer with Michael Butterfield (Part 2) Sep 12, 2025

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Michael Butterfield, author of "The Zodiac Killer: The Story of America's Most Elusive Murderer," joins "Mind Over Murder" cohosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley to discuss his new book, his longtime research into the still unsolved Zodiac case, and his website, ZodiacKillerFacts.com. Will Zodiac ever be identified? Will the remaining Zodiac ciphers be solved? Are there really similarities between the Zodiac case and the Colonial Parkway Murders? This bonus episode is is Part 2 of 2 parts on the Zodiac with Michael Butterfield, and originally ran on May 19, 2025.
Amazon: The Zodiac Killer: The Story of America's Most Elusive Murderer
https://www.amazon.com/Zodiac-Killer-Americas-Elusive-Murderer/dp/1398851779?author-follow=B0F4RS214F
ZodiacKillerFacts.com website:
https://zodiackillerfacts.com/about/
Washingtonian: A Murder on the Rappahannock River:
https://www.washingtonian.com/2019/06/27/murder-on-the-rappahannock-river-emerson-stevens-mary-harding-innocence-project/
WTKR News 3: One year after development in Colonial Parkway Murders, where do things stand?
https://www.wtkr.com/news/in-the-community/historic-triangle/one-year-after-development-in-colonial-parkway-murders-where-do-things-stand
Won't you help the Mind Over Murder podcast increase our visibility and shine the spotlight on the "Colonial Parkway Murders" and other unsolved cases? Contribute any amount you can here:
https://www.gofundme.com/f/mind-over-murder-podcast-expenses?utm_campaign=p_lico+share-sheet&utm_medium=copy_link&utm_source=customer
WTVR CBS News: Colonial Parkway murders victims' families keep hope cases will be solved:
https://www.wtvr.com/news/local-news/colonial-parkway-murders-update-april-19-2024
WAVY TV 10 News: New questions raised in Colonial Parkway murders:
https://www.wavy.com/news/local-news/new-questions-raised-in-colonial-parkway-murders/
Alan Wade Wilmer, Sr. has been named as the killer of Robin Edwards and David Knobling in the Colonial Parkway Murders in September 1987, as well as the murderer of Teresa Howell in June 1989. He has also been linked to the April 1988 disappearance and likely murder of Keith Call and Cassandra Hailey, another pair in the Colonial Parkway Murders.
13News Now investigates: A serial killer's DNA will not be entered into CODIS database:
https://www.13newsnow.com/video/news/local/13news-now-investigates/291-e82a9e0b-38e3-4f95-982a-40e960a71e49
WAVY TV 10 on the Colonial Parkway Murders Announcement with photos:
https://www.wavy.com/news/crime/deceased-man-identified-as-suspect-in-decades-old-homicides/
WTKR News 3
https://www.wtkr.com/news/is-man-linked-to-one-of-the-colonial-parkway-murders-connected-to-the-other-cases
Virginian Pilot: Who was Alan Wade Wilmer Sr.? Man suspected in two ‘Colonial Parkway’ murders died alone in 2017
https://www.pilotonline.com/2024/01/14/who-was-alan-wade-wilmer-sr-man-suspected-in-colonial-parkway-murders-died-alone-in-2017/
Colonial Parkway Murders Facebook page with more than 18,000 followers: https://www.facebook.com/ColonialParkwayCase
You can also participate in an in-depth discussion of the Colonial Parkway Murders here:
https://earonsgsk.proboards.com/board/50/colonial-parkway-murders
Mind Over Murder is proud to be a Spreaker Prime Podcaster:
https://www.spreaker.com
Join the discussion on our Mind Over Murder
Colonial Parkway Murders website: https://colonialparkwaymurders.com
Mind Over Murder Podcast website: https://mindovermurderpodcast.com
Please subscribe and rate us at your favorite podcast sites. Ratings and reviews are very important. Please share and tell your friends!
We launch a new episode of "Mind Over Murder" every Monday morning, and a bonus episode every Thursday morning.
Sponsors: Othram and DNAsolves.com
Contribute Your DNA to help solve cases: https://dnasolves.com/user/register
Follow "Mind Over Murder" on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MurderOver
Follow Bill Thomas on Twitter: https://twitter.com/BillThomas56
Follow "Colonial Parkway Murders" on Facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/ColonialParkwayCase/
Follow us on InstaGram:: https://www.instagram.com/colonialparkwaymurders/
Check out the entire Crawlspace Media network at http://crawlspace-media.com/
All rights reserved. Mind Over Murder, Copyright Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley,
Another Dog Productions/Absolute Zero Productions
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NEW: FBI Profiler James Fitzgerald's New Book Sep 08, 2025

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Legendary FBI profiler James R. Fitzgerald joins "Mind Over Murder" co-hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley to discuss his latest book, A Journey to the Center of the Mind, which covers his work on many high profile FBI cases including the Unabomb case, 9/11, the Olympic Park bombing in Atlanta, the JonBenet Ramsey case, his work on the hit TV series Criminal Minds and much more.
A Journey to the Center of the Mind - Book IV: The (Last Ten) FBI Years, and the "Retirement" Years by James R Fitzgerald
https://www.amazon.com/Journey-Center-Mind-Years-Retirement/dp/B0FHW5LFYW/ref=monarch_sidesheet_title
James R Fitzgerald website
https://www.jamesrfitzgerald.com/books/a-journey-to-the-center-of-the-mind-book-iv/
WTKR News 3: One year after development in Colonial Parkway Murders, where do things stand?
https://www.wtkr.com/news/in-the-community/historic-triangle/one-year-after-development-in-colonial-parkway-murders-where-do-things-stand
Won't you help the Mind Over Murder podcast increase our visibility and shine the spotlight on the "Colonial Parkway Murders" and other unsolved cases? Contribute any amount you can here:
https://www.gofundme.com/f/mind-over-murder-podcast-expenses?utm_campaign=p_lico+share-sheet&utm_medium=copy_link&utm_source=customer
WTVR CBS News: Colonial Parkway murders victims' families keep hope cases will be solved:
https://www.wtvr.com/news/local-news/colonial-parkway-murders-update-april-19-2024
WAVY TV 10 News: New questions raised in Colonial Parkway murders:
https://www.wavy.com/news/local-news/new-questions-raised-in-colonial-parkway-murders/
Alan Wade Wilmer, Sr. has been named as the killer of Robin Edwards and David Knobling in the Colonial Parkway Murders in September 1987, as well as the murderer of Teresa Howell in June 1989. He has also been linked to the April 1988 disappearance and likely murder of Keith Call and Cassandra Hailey, another pair in the Colonial Parkway Murders.
13News Now investigates: A serial killer's DNA will not be entered into CODIS database:
https://www.13newsnow.com/video/news/local/13news-now-investigates/291-e82a9e0b-38e3-4f95-982a-40e960a71e49
WAVY TV 10 on the Colonial Parkway Murders Announcement with photos:
https://www.wavy.com/news/crime/deceased-man-identified-as-suspect-in-decades-old-homicides/
WTKR News 3
https://www.wtkr.com/news/is-man-linked-to-one-of-the-colonial-parkway-murders-connected-to-the-other-cases
Virginian Pilot: Who was Alan Wade Wilmer Sr.? Man suspected in two ‘Colonial Parkway’ murders died alone in 2017
https://www.pilotonline.com/2024/01/14/who-was-alan-wade-wilmer-sr-man-suspected-in-colonial-parkway-murders-died-alone-in-2017/
Colonial Parkway Murders Facebook page with more than 18,000 followers: https://www.facebook.com/ColonialParkwayCase
You can also participate in an in-depth discussion of the Colonial Parkway Murders here:
https://earonsgsk.proboards.com/board/50/colonial-parkway-murders
Mind Over Murder is proud to be a Spreaker Prime Podcaster:
https://www.spreaker.com
Join the discussion on our Mind Over Murder
Colonial Parkway Murders website: https://colonialparkwaymurders.com
Mind Over Murder Podcast website: https://mindovermurderpodcast.com
Please subscribe and rate us at your favorite podcast sites. Ratings and reviews are very important. Please share and tell your friends!
We launch a new episode of "Mind Over Murder" every Monday morning, and a bonus episode every Thursday morning.
Sponsors: Othram and DNAsolves.com
Contribute Your DNA to help solve cases: https://dnasolves.com/user/register
Follow "Mind Over Murder" on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MurderOver
Follow Bill Thomas on Twitter: https://twitter.com/BillThomas56
Follow "Colonial Parkway Murders" on Facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/ColonialParkwayCase/
Follow us on InstaGram:: https://www.instagram.com/colonialparkwaymurders/
Check out the entire Crawlspace Media network at http://crawlspace-media.com/
All rights reserved. Mind Over Murder, Copyright Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley,
Another Dog Productions/Absolute Zero Productions
Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/mind-over-murder--4847179/support.

BONUS: The Zodiac Killer with Michael Butterfield (Part 1) Sep 04, 2025

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Michael Butterfield, author of "The Zodiac Killer: The Story of America's Most Elusive Murderer," joins "Mind Over Murder" cohosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley to discuss his new book, his longtime research into the still unsolved Zodiac case, and his website, ZodiacKillerFacts.com. Will Zodiac ever be identified? Will the remaining Zodiac ciphers be solved? Are there really similarities between the Zodiac case and the Colonial Parkway Murders? This bonus episode is is Part 1 of 2 parts on the Zodiac with Michael Butterfield, and originally ran on May 12, 2025.
CrimeCon: We’re going to CrimeCon again, folks! Join us in Denver for new merch, some MOM listener hangouts, and a lot of fun! Use the code MINDOVERMURDER to get 10% off your tickets between now and September! See you there!
Amazon: The Zodiac Killer: The Story of America's Most Elusive Murderer
https://www.amazon.com/Zodiac-Killer-Americas-Elusive-Murderer/dp/1398851779?author-follow=B0F4RS214F
ZodiacKillerFacts.com website:
https://zodiackillerfacts.com/about/
Washingtonian: A Murder on the Rappahannock River:
https://www.washingtonian.com/2019/06/27/murder-on-the-rappahannock-river-emerson-stevens-mary-harding-innocence-project/
WTKR News 3: One year after development in Colonial Parkway Murders, where do things stand?
https://www.wtkr.com/news/in-the-community/historic-triangle/one-year-after-development-in-colonial-parkway-murders-where-do-things-stand
Won't you help the Mind Over Murder podcast increase our visibility and shine the spotlight on the "Colonial Parkway Murders" and other unsolved cases? Contribute any amount you can here:
https://www.gofundme.com/f/mind-over-murder-podcast-expenses?utm_campaign=p_lico+share-sheet&utm_medium=copy_link&utm_source=customer
WTVR CBS News: Colonial Parkway murders victims' families keep hope cases will be solved:
https://www.wtvr.com/news/local-news/colonial-parkway-murders-update-april-19-2024
WAVY TV 10 News: New questions raised in Colonial Parkway murders:
https://www.wavy.com/news/local-news/new-questions-raised-in-colonial-parkway-murders/
Alan Wade Wilmer, Sr. has been named as the killer of Robin Edwards and David Knobling in the Colonial Parkway Murders in September 1987, as well as the murderer of Teresa Howell in June 1989. He has also been linked to the April 1988 disappearance and likely murder of Keith Call and Cassandra Hailey, another pair in the Colonial Parkway Murders.
13News Now investigates: A serial killer's DNA will not be entered into CODIS database:
https://www.13newsnow.com/video/news/local/13news-now-investigates/291-e82a9e0b-38e3-4f95-982a-40e960a71e49
WAVY TV 10 on the Colonial Parkway Murders Announcement with photos:
https://www.wavy.com/news/crime/deceased-man-identified-as-suspect-in-decades-old-homicides/
WTKR News 3
https://www.wtkr.com/news/is-man-linked-to-one-of-the-colonial-parkway-murders-connected-to-the-other-cases
Virginian Pilot: Who was Alan Wade Wilmer Sr.? Man suspected in two ‘Colonial Parkway’ murders died alone in 2017
https://www.pilotonline.com/2024/01/14/who-was-alan-wade-wilmer-sr-man-suspected-in-colonial-parkway-murders-died-alone-in-2017/
Colonial Parkway Murders Facebook page with more than 18,000 followers: https://www.facebook.com/ColonialParkwayCase
You can also participate in an in-depth discussion of the Colonial Parkway Murders here:
https://earonsgsk.proboards.com/board/50/colonial-parkway-murders
Mind Over Murder is proud to be a Spreaker Prime Podcaster:
https://www.spreaker.com
Join the discussion on our Mind Over Murder
Colonial Parkway Murders website: https://colonialparkwaymurders.com
Mind Over Murder Podcast website: https://mindovermurderpodcast.com
Please subscribe and rate us at your favorite podcast sites. Ratings and reviews are very important. Please share and tell your friends!
We launch a new episode of "Mind Over Murder" every Monday morning, and a bonus episode every Thursday morning.
Sponsors: Othram and DNAsolves.com
Contribute Your DNA to help solve cases: https://dnasolves.com/user/register
Follow "Mind Over Murder" on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MurderOver
Follow Bill Thomas on Twitter: https://twitter.com/BillThomas56
Follow "Colonial Parkway Murders" on Facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/ColonialParkwayCase/
Follow us on InstaGram:: https://www.instagram.com/colonialparkwaymurders/
Check out the entire Crawlspace Media network at http://crawlspace-media.com/
All rights reserved. Mind Over Murder, Copyright Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley,
Another Dog Productions/Absolute Zero Productions
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BONUS: American Detective: Colonial Parkway Murders w Danny Plott (Part 2) Sep 01, 2025

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"Mind Over Murder" podcast host Bill Thomas asks retired Virginia State Police Special Agent Danny Plott questions regarding Joe Kenda's "American Detective: Colonial Parkway Murders" TV special on the Investigation Discovery network. Are Joe Kenda and Danny Plott on the right track to help solve this case of serial murder? This bonus episode is part 2 of 2 parts of our interview with Danny Plott in the American Detective: Colonial Parkway Murders. It originally ran on May 5, 2025.
American Detective: Colonial Parkway Murders:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fp3rNRZnL0E
Washingtonian: A Murder on the Rappahannock River:
https://www.washingtonian.com/2019/06/27/murder-on-the-rappahannock-river-emerson-stevens-mary-harding-innocence-project/
WTKR News 3: One year after development in Colonial Parkway Murders, where do things stand?
https://www.wtkr.com/news/in-the-community/historic-triangle/one-year-after-development-in-colonial-parkway-murders-where-do-things-stand
Won't you help the Mind Over Murder podcast increase our visibility and shine the spotlight on the "Colonial Parkway Murders" and other unsolved cases? Contribute any amount you can here:
https://www.gofundme.com/f/mind-over-murder-podcast-expenses?utm_campaign=p_lico+share-sheet&utm_medium=copy_link&utm_source=customer
WTVR CBS News: Colonial Parkway murders victims' families keep hope cases will be solved:
https://www.wtvr.com/news/local-news/colonial-parkway-murders-update-april-19-2024
WAVY TV 10 News: New questions raised in Colonial Parkway murders:
https://www.wavy.com/news/local-news/new-questions-raised-in-colonial-parkway-murders/
Alan Wade Wilmer, Sr. has been named as the killer of Robin Edwards and David Knobling in the Colonial Parkway Murders in September 1987, as well as the murderer of Teresa Howell in June 1989. He has also been linked to the April 1988 disappearance and likely murder of Keith Call and Cassandra Hailey, another pair in the Colonial Parkway Murders.
13News Now investigates: A serial killer's DNA will not be entered into CODIS database:
https://www.13newsnow.com/video/news/local/13news-now-investigates/291-e82a9e0b-38e3-4f95-982a-40e960a71e49
WAVY TV 10 on the Colonial Parkway Murders Announcement with photos:
https://www.wavy.com/news/crime/deceased-man-identified-as-suspect-in-decades-old-homicides/
WTKR News 3
https://www.wtkr.com/news/is-man-linked-to-one-of-the-colonial-parkway-murders-connected-to-the-other-cases
Virginian Pilot: Who was Alan Wade Wilmer Sr.? Man suspected in two ‘Colonial Parkway’ murders died alone in 2017
https://www.pilotonline.com/2024/01/14/who-was-alan-wade-wilmer-sr-man-suspected-in-colonial-parkway-murders-died-alone-in-2017/
Colonial Parkway Murders Facebook page with more than 18,000 followers: https://www.facebook.com/ColonialParkwayCase
You can also participate in an in-depth discussion of the Colonial Parkway Murders here:
https://earonsgsk.proboards.com/board/50/colonial-parkway-murders
Mind Over Murder is proud to be a Spreaker Prime Podcaster:
https://www.spreaker.com
Join the discussion on our Mind Over Murder
Colonial Parkway Murders website: https://colonialparkwaymurders.com
Mind Over Murder Podcast website: https://mindovermurderpodcast.com
Please subscribe and rate us at your favorite podcast sites. Ratings and reviews are very important. Please share and tell your friends!
We launch a new episode of "Mind Over Murder" every Monday morning, and a bonus episode every Thursday morning.
Sponsors: Othram and DNAsolves.com
Contribute Your DNA to help solve cases: https://dnasolves.com/user/register
Follow "Mind Over Murder" on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MurderOver
Follow Bill Thomas on Twitter: https://twitter.com/BillThomas56
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BONUS: American Detective: Colonial Parkway Murders w Danny Plott (Part 1) Aug 28, 2025

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"Mind Over Murder" podcast host Bill Thomas asks retired Virginia State Police Special Agent Danny Plott questions regarding Joe Kenda's "American Detective: Colonial Parkway Murders" TV special on the Investigation Discovery network. Are Joe Kenda and Danny Plott on the right track to help solve this case of serial murder? This bonus episode is part 1 of 2 parts of our interview with Danny Plott in the American Detective: Colonial Parkway Murders. It originally ran on April 28, 2025.
American Detective: Colonial Parkway Murders:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fp3rNRZnL0E
Washingtonian: A Murder on the Rappahannock River:
https://www.washingtonian.com/2019/06/27/murder-on-the-rappahannock-river-emerson-stevens-mary-harding-innocence-project/
WTKR News 3: One year after development in Colonial Parkway Murders, where do things stand?
https://www.wtkr.com/news/in-the-community/historic-triangle/one-year-after-development-in-colonial-parkway-murders-where-do-things-stand
Won't you help the Mind Over Murder podcast increase our visibility and shine the spotlight on the "Colonial Parkway Murders" and other unsolved cases? Contribute any amount you can here:
https://www.gofundme.com/f/mind-over-murder-podcast-expenses?utm_campaign=p_lico+share-sheet&utm_medium=copy_link&utm_source=customer
WTVR CBS News: Colonial Parkway murders victims' families keep hope cases will be solved:
https://www.wtvr.com/news/local-news/colonial-parkway-murders-update-april-19-2024
WAVY TV 10 News: New questions raised in Colonial Parkway murders:
https://www.wavy.com/news/local-news/new-questions-raised-in-colonial-parkway-murders/
Alan Wade Wilmer, Sr. has been named as the killer of Robin Edwards and David Knobling in the Colonial Parkway Murders in September 1987, as well as the murderer of Teresa Howell in June 1989. He has also been linked to the April 1988 disappearance and likely murder of Keith Call and Cassandra Hailey, another pair in the Colonial Parkway Murders.
13News Now investigates: A serial killer's DNA will not be entered into CODIS database:
https://www.13newsnow.com/video/news/local/13news-now-investigates/291-e82a9e0b-38e3-4f95-982a-40e960a71e49
WAVY TV 10 on the Colonial Parkway Murders Announcement with photos:
https://www.wavy.com/news/crime/deceased-man-identified-as-suspect-in-decades-old-homicides/
WTKR News 3
https://www.wtkr.com/news/is-man-linked-to-one-of-the-colonial-parkway-murders-connected-to-the-other-cases
Virginian Pilot: Who was Alan Wade Wilmer Sr.? Man suspected in two ‘Colonial Parkway’ murders died alone in 2017
https://www.pilotonline.com/2024/01/14/who-was-alan-wade-wilmer-sr-man-suspected-in-colonial-parkway-murders-died-alone-in-2017/
Colonial Parkway Murders Facebook page with more than 18,000 followers: https://www.facebook.com/ColonialParkwayCase
You can also participate in an in-depth discussion of the Colonial Parkway Murders here:
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NEW: Shocking Crimes Across Virginia Aug 25, 2025

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"Mind Over Murder" podcast co-hosts Kristin Dilley and Bill Thomas discuss three shocking cases across the Commonwealth of Virginia, including the murder of Holly Hatcher in Rockingham County, attempted murder by torching of City Councilman Lee Vogler in Danville, and the mysterious murder of Navy sailor Angelina Resendez at the Norfolk Navy Base.
Mom of Country Musician Is Stabbed to Death in Home Invasion Before Dad Kills the Assailant
ttps://people.com/holly-hatcher-stabbed-fatally-mom-country-star-11788741
Councilman Lee Vogler severely burned over half his body after sadistic attack by maniac who wanted him dead: cops
https://nypost.com/2025/07/31/us-news/councilman-lee-vogler-severely-burned-over-half-his-body-after-sadistic-attack/
New Details Revealed in Case of Sailor Who Vanished from Navy Base and Was Later Found Dead: ‘Betrayal of Trust, of Duty’
https://people.com/angelina-resendiz-new-details-alleged-suspect-s-name-revealed-in-death-of-navy-sailor-11758854https://people.com/holly-hatcher-stabbed-fatally-mom-country-star-1178874
CrimeCon: We’re going to CrimeCon again, folks! Join us in Denver for new merch, some MOM listener hangouts, and a lot of fun! Use the code MINDOVERMURDER to get 10% off your tickets between now and September! See you there!
WTKR News 3: One year after development in Colonial Parkway Murders, where do things stand?
https://www.wtkr.com/news/in-the-community/historic-triangle/one-year-after-development-in-colonial-parkway-murders-where-do-things-stand
Won't you help the Mind Over Murder podcast increase our visibility and shine the spotlight on the "Colonial Parkway Murders" and other unsolved cases? Contribute any amount you can here:
https://www.gofundme.com/f/mind-over-murder-podcast-expenses?utm_campaign=p_lico+share-sheet&utm_medium=copy_link&utm_source=customer
WTVR CBS News: Colonial Parkway murders victims' families keep hope cases will be solved:
https://www.wtvr.com/news/local-news/colonial-parkway-murders-update-april-19-2024
WAVY TV 10 News: New questions raised in Colonial Parkway murders:
https://www.wavy.com/news/local-news/new-questions-raised-in-colonial-parkway-murders/
Alan Wade Wilmer, Sr. has been named as the killer of Robin Edwards and David Knobling in the Colonial Parkway Murders in September 1987, as well as the murderer of Teresa Howell in June 1989. He has also been linked to the April 1988 disappearance and likely murder of Keith Call and Cassandra Hailey, another pair in the Colonial Parkway Murders.
13News Now investigates: A serial killer's DNA will not be entered into CODIS database:
https://www.13newsnow.com/video/news/local/13news-now-investigates/291-e82a9e0b-38e3-4f95-982a-40e960a71e49
WAVY TV 10 on the Colonial Parkway Murders Announcement with photos:
https://www.wavy.com/news/crime/deceased-man-identified-as-suspect-in-decades-old-homicides/
WTKR News 3
https://www.wtkr.com/news/is-man-linked-to-one-of-the-colonial-parkway-murders-connected-to-the-other-cases
Virginian Pilot: Who was Alan Wade Wilmer Sr.? Man suspected in two ‘Colonial Parkway’ murders died alone in 2017
https://www.pilotonline.com/2024/01/14/who-was-alan-wade-wilmer-sr-man-suspected-in-colonial-parkway-murders-died-alone-in-2017/
Colonial Parkway Murders Facebook page with more than 18,000 followers: https://www.facebook.com/ColonialParkwayCase
You can also participate in an in-depth discussion of the Colonial Parkway Murders here:
https://earonsgsk.proboards.com/board/50/colonial-parkway-murders
Mind Over Murder is proud to be a Spreaker Prime Podcaster:
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Join the discussion on our Mind Over Murder
Colonial Parkway Murders website: https://colonialparkwaymurders.com
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Please subscribe and rate us at your favorite podcast sites. Ratings and reviews are very important. Please share and tell your friends!
We launch a new episode of "Mind Over Murder" every Monday morning, and a bonus episode every Thursday morning.
Sponsors: Othram and DNAsolves.com
Contribute Your DNA to help solve cases: https://dnasolves.com/user/register
Follow "Mind Over Murder" on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MurderOver
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Follow "Colonial Parkway Murders" on Facebook:
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BONUS: Ask Us Anything in American Detective (Part 2) Aug 21, 2025

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"Mind Over Murder" podcast hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley reply to an "Ask Us Anything" series of listener questions regarding Joe Kenda's "American Detective: Colonial Parkway Murders" TV special on the Investigation Discovery network. This is part 2 of our "Ask Us Anything" on the American Detective: Colonial Parkway Murders, and originally ran on April 21, 2025.
American Detective: Colonial Parkway Murders:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fp3rNRZnL0E
Washingtonian: A Murder on the Rappahannock River:
https://www.washingtonian.com/2019/06/27/murder-on-the-rappahannock-river-emerson-stevens-mary-harding-innocence-project/
CrimeCon: We’re going to CrimeCon again, folks! Join us in Denver for new merch, some MOM listener hangouts, and a lot of fun! Use the code MINDOVERMURDER to get 10% off your tickets between now and September! See you there!
WTKR News 3: One year after development in Colonial Parkway Murders, where do things stand?
https://www.wtkr.com/news/in-the-community/historic-triangle/one-year-after-development-in-colonial-parkway-murders-where-do-things-stand
Won't you help the Mind Over Murder podcast increase our visibility and shine the spotlight on the "Colonial Parkway Murders" and other unsolved cases? Contribute any amount you can here:
https://www.gofundme.com/f/mind-over-murder-podcast-expenses?utm_campaign=p_lico+share-sheet&utm_medium=copy_link&utm_source=customer
WTVR CBS News: Colonial Parkway murders victims' families keep hope cases will be solved:
https://www.wtvr.com/news/local-news/colonial-parkway-murders-update-april-19-2024
WAVY TV 10 News: New questions raised in Colonial Parkway murders:
https://www.wavy.com/news/local-news/new-questions-raised-in-colonial-parkway-murders/
Alan Wade Wilmer, Sr. has been named as the killer of Robin Edwards and David Knobling in the Colonial Parkway Murders in September 1987, as well as the murderer of Teresa Howell in June 1989. He has also been linked to the April 1988 disappearance and likely murder of Keith Call and Cassandra Hailey, another pair in the Colonial Parkway Murders.
13News Now investigates: A serial killer's DNA will not be entered into CODIS database:
https://www.13newsnow.com/video/news/local/13news-now-investigates/291-e82a9e0b-38e3-4f95-982a-40e960a71e49
WAVY TV 10 on the Colonial Parkway Murders Announcement with photos:
https://www.wavy.com/news/crime/deceased-man-identified-as-suspect-in-decades-old-homicides/
WTKR News 3
https://www.wtkr.com/news/is-man-linked-to-one-of-the-colonial-parkway-murders-connected-to-the-other-cases
Virginian Pilot: Who was Alan Wade Wilmer Sr.? Man suspected in two ‘Colonial Parkway’ murders died alone in 2017
https://www.pilotonline.com/2024/01/14/who-was-alan-wade-wilmer-sr-man-suspected-in-colonial-parkway-murders-died-alone-in-2017/
Colonial Parkway Murders Facebook page with more than 18,000 followers: https://www.facebook.com/ColonialParkwayCase
You can also participate in an in-depth discussion of the Colonial Parkway Murders here:
https://earonsgsk.proboards.com/board/50/colonial-parkway-murders
Mind Over Murder is proud to be a Spreaker Prime Podcaster:
https://www.spreaker.com
Join the discussion on our Mind Over Murder
Colonial Parkway Murders website: https://colonialparkwaymurders.com
Mind Over Murder Podcast website: https://mindovermurderpodcast.com
Please subscribe and rate us at your favorite podcast sites. Ratings and reviews are very important. Please share and tell your friends!
We launch a new episode of "Mind Over Murder" every Monday morning, and a bonus episode every Thursday morning.
Sponsors: Othram and DNAsolves.com
Contribute Your DNA to help solve cases: https://dnasolves.com/user/register
Follow "Mind Over Murder" on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MurderOver
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NEW: And Then Came the Blues Katrina Brownlee Aug 18, 2025

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Former NYPD Detective Kristina Brownlee joins "Mind Over Murder" podcast co-hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley to discuss her new book "And Then Came the Blues: My Story of Survival on Both Sides of the Badge." The book tells the story of Katrina's survival after her fiance tried to kill her, leaving her lying bleeding with 10 bullets in her body, her decision to push back against domestic violence by joining the NYPD, rising to the rank of detective, and her inspiring creation of "Young Ladies of Our Future," a support group for at risk young women.
And Then Came the Blues: My Story of Survival on Both Sides of the Badge
https://www.akashicbooks.com/catalog/and-then-came-the-blues/
Young Ladies of Our Future
https://youngladiesofourfuture.com/
CrimeCon: We’re going to CrimeCon again, folks! Join us in Denver for new merch, some MOM listener hangouts, and a lot of fun! Use the code MINDOVERMURDER to get 10% off your tickets between now and September! See you there!
WTKR News 3: One year after development in Colonial Parkway Murders, where do things stand?
https://www.wtkr.com/news/in-the-community/historic-triangle/one-year-after-development-in-colonial-parkway-murders-where-do-things-stand
Won't you help the Mind Over Murder podcast increase our visibility and shine the spotlight on the "Colonial Parkway Murders" and other unsolved cases? Contribute any amount you can here:
https://www.gofundme.com/f/mind-over-murder-podcast-expenses?utm_campaign=p_lico+share-sheet&utm_medium=copy_link&utm_source=customer
WTVR CBS News: Colonial Parkway murders victims' families keep hope cases will be solved:
https://www.wtvr.com/news/local-news/colonial-parkway-murders-update-april-19-2024
WAVY TV 10 News: New questions raised in Colonial Parkway murders:
https://www.wavy.com/news/local-news/new-questions-raised-in-colonial-parkway-murders/
Alan Wade Wilmer, Sr. has been named as the killer of Robin Edwards and David Knobling in the Colonial Parkway Murders in September 1987, as well as the murderer of Teresa Howell in June 1989. He has also been linked to the April 1988 disappearance and likely murder of Keith Call and Cassandra Hailey, another pair in the Colonial Parkway Murders.
13News Now investigates: A serial killer's DNA will not be entered into CODIS database:
https://www.13newsnow.com/video/news/local/13news-now-investigates/291-e82a9e0b-38e3-4f95-982a-40e960a71e49
WAVY TV 10 on the Colonial Parkway Murders Announcement with photos:
https://www.wavy.com/news/crime/deceased-man-identified-as-suspect-in-decades-old-homicides/
WTKR News 3
https://www.wtkr.com/news/is-man-linked-to-one-of-the-colonial-parkway-murders-connected-to-the-other-cases
Virginian Pilot: Who was Alan Wade Wilmer Sr.? Man suspected in two ‘Colonial Parkway’ murders died alone in 2017
https://www.pilotonline.com/2024/01/14/who-was-alan-wade-wilmer-sr-man-suspected-in-colonial-parkway-murders-died-alone-in-2017/
Colonial Parkway Murders Facebook page with more than 18,000 followers: https://www.facebook.com/ColonialParkwayCase
You can also participate in an in-depth discussion of the Colonial Parkway Murders here:
https://earonsgsk.proboards.com/board/50/colonial-parkway-murders
Mind Over Murder is proud to be a Spreaker Prime Podcaster:
https://www.spreaker.com
Join the discussion on our Mind Over Murder
Colonial Parkway Murders website: https://colonialparkwaymurders.com
Mind Over Murder Podcast website: https://mindovermurderpodcast.com
Please subscribe and rate us at your favorite podcast sites. Ratings and reviews are very important. Please share and tell your friends!
We launch a new episode of "Mind Over Murder" every Monday morning, and a bonus episode every Thursday morning.
Sponsors: Othram and DNAsolves.com
Contribute Your DNA to help solve cases: https://dnasolves.com/user/register
Follow "Mind Over Murder" on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MurderOver
Follow Bill Thomas on Twitter: https://twitter.com/BillThomas56
Follow "Colonial Parkway Murders" on Facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/ColonialParkwayCase/
Follow us on InstaGram:: https://www.instagram.com/colonialparkwaymurders/
Check out the entire Crawlspace Media network at http://crawlspace-media.com/
All rights reserved. Mind Over Murder, Copyright Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley,
Another Dog Productions/Absolute Zero Productions
Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/mind-over-murder--4847179/support.

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