Mind Over Murder

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NEW: Bryan Kohberger Pleads Guilty to Idaho 4 Murder (Part 2) Jul 12, 2025

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"Mind Over Murder" co-hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley discuss the bombshell news that suspect Bryan Kohberger has agreed to plead guilty to murdering 4 college students, Ethan Chapin, Xana Kernodle, Kaylee Goncalves and Madison Mogen at their group house in Moscow, Idaho in November 2022. Kohberger was facing the death penalty in Idaho, but will now serve four consecutive life sentences with no possiblity of parole for the brutal killings. This part 2 of 2 parts on the Kohberger guilty plea.
CrimeCon: We’re going to CrimeCon again, folks! Join us in Denver for new merch, some MOM listener hangouts, and a lot of fun! Use the code MINDOVERMURDER to get 10% off your tickets between now and September! See you there!
CNN: Unpacking Bryan Kohberger’s guilty plea deal to avoid death penalty in Idaho student killing
https://edition.cnn.com/2025/07/03/us/idaho-murders-kohberger-plea-deal-breakdown
NYT: Former Criminology Student Admits to Killing 4 Idaho Students
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/02/us/idaho-murders-kohberger-plea.html
WTKR News 3: One year after development in Colonial Parkway Murders, where do things stand?
https://www.wtkr.com/news/in-the-community/historic-triangle/one-year-after-development-in-colonial-parkway-murders-where-do-things-stand
Won't you help the Mind Over Murder podcast increase our visibility and shine the spotlight on the "Colonial Parkway Murders" and other unsolved cases? Contribute any amount you can here:
https://www.gofundme.com/f/mind-over-murder-podcast-expenses?utm_campaign=p_lico+share-sheet&utm_medium=copy_link&utm_source=customer
WTVR CBS News: Colonial Parkway murders victims' families keep hope cases will be solved:
https://www.wtvr.com/news/local-news/colonial-parkway-murders-update-april-19-2024
WAVY TV 10 News: New questions raised in Colonial Parkway murders:
https://www.wavy.com/news/local-news/new-questions-raised-in-colonial-parkway-murders/
Alan Wade Wilmer, Sr. has been named as the killer of Robin Edwards and David Knobling in the Colonial Parkway Murders in September 1987, as well as the murderer of Teresa Howell in June 1989. He has also been linked to the April 1988 disappearance and likely murder of Keith Call and Cassandra Hailey, another pair in the Colonial Parkway Murders.
13News Now investigates: A serial killer's DNA will not be entered into CODIS database:
https://www.13newsnow.com/video/news/local/13news-now-investigates/291-e82a9e0b-38e3-4f95-982a-40e960a71e49
WAVY TV 10 on the Colonial Parkway Murders Announcement with photos:
https://www.wavy.com/news/crime/deceased-man-identified-as-suspect-in-decades-old-homicides/
WTKR News 3
https://www.wtkr.com/news/is-man-linked-to-one-of-the-colonial-parkway-murders-connected-to-the-other-cases
Virginian Pilot: Who was Alan Wade Wilmer Sr.? Man suspected in two ‘Colonial Parkway’ murders died alone in 2017
https://www.pilotonline.com/2024/01/14/who-was-alan-wade-wilmer-sr-man-suspected-in-colonial-parkway-murders-died-alone-in-2017/
Colonial Parkway Murders Facebook page with more than 18,000 followers: https://www.facebook.com/ColonialParkwayCase
You can also participate in an in-depth discussion of the Colonial Parkway Murders here:
https://earonsgsk.proboards.com/board/50/colonial-parkway-murders
Mind Over Murder is proud to be a Spreaker Prime Podcaster:
https://www.spreaker.com
Join the discussion on our Mind Over Murder
Colonial Parkway Murders website: https://colonialparkwaymurders.com
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Please subscribe and rate us at your favorite podcast sites. Ratings and reviews are very important. Please share and tell your friends!
We launch a new episode of "Mind Over Murder" every Monday morning, and a bonus episode every Thursday morning.
Sponsors: Othram and DNAsolves.com
Contribute Your DNA to help solve cases: https://dnasolves.com/user/register
Follow "Mind Over Murder" on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MurderOver
Follow Bill Thomas on Twitter: https://twitter.com/BillThomas56
Follow "Colonial Parkway Murders" on Facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/ColonialParkwayCase/
Follow us on InstaGram:: https://www.instagram.com/colonialparkwaymurders/
Check out the entire Crawlspace Media network at http://crawlspace-media.com/
All rights reserved. Mind Over Murder, Copyright Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley,
Another Dog Productions/Absolute Zero Productions
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NEW: Bryan Kohberger Pleads Guilty to Idaho 4 Murder (Part 1) Jul 07, 2025

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"Mind Over Murder" co-hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley discuss the bombshell news that suspect Bryan Kohberger has agreed to plead guilty to murdering 4 college students, Ethan Chapin, Xana Kernodle, Kaylee Goncalves and Madison Mogen at their group house in Moscow, Idaho in November 2022. Kohberger was facing the death penalty in Idaho, but will now serve four consecutive life sentences with no possiblity of parole for the brutal killings. This part 1 of 2 parts on the Kohberger guilty plea.
CrimeCon: We’re going to CrimeCon again, folks! Join us in Denver for new merch, some MOM listener hangouts, and a lot of fun! Use the code MINDOVERMURDER to get 10% off your tickets between now and September! See you there!
CNN: Unpacking Bryan Kohberger’s guilty plea deal to avoid death penalty in Idaho student killing
https://edition.cnn.com/2025/07/03/us/idaho-murders-kohberger-plea-deal-breakdown
NYT: Former Criminology Student Admits to Killing 4 Idaho Students
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/02/us/idaho-murders-kohberger-plea.html
WTKR News 3: One year after development in Colonial Parkway Murders, where do things stand?
https://www.wtkr.com/news/in-the-community/historic-triangle/one-year-after-development-in-colonial-parkway-murders-where-do-things-stand
Won't you help the Mind Over Murder podcast increase our visibility and shine the spotlight on the "Colonial Parkway Murders" and other unsolved cases? Contribute any amount you can here:
https://www.gofundme.com/f/mind-over-murder-podcast-expenses?utm_campaign=p_lico+share-sheet&utm_medium=copy_link&utm_source=customer
WTVR CBS News: Colonial Parkway murders victims' families keep hope cases will be solved:
https://www.wtvr.com/news/local-news/colonial-parkway-murders-update-april-19-2024
WAVY TV 10 News: New questions raised in Colonial Parkway murders:
https://www.wavy.com/news/local-news/new-questions-raised-in-colonial-parkway-murders/
Alan Wade Wilmer, Sr. has been named as the killer of Robin Edwards and David Knobling in the Colonial Parkway Murders in September 1987, as well as the murderer of Teresa Howell in June 1989. He has also been linked to the April 1988 disappearance and likely murder of Keith Call and Cassandra Hailey, another pair in the Colonial Parkway Murders.
13News Now investigates: A serial killer's DNA will not be entered into CODIS database:
https://www.13newsnow.com/video/news/local/13news-now-investigates/291-e82a9e0b-38e3-4f95-982a-40e960a71e49
WAVY TV 10 on the Colonial Parkway Murders Announcement with photos:
https://www.wavy.com/news/crime/deceased-man-identified-as-suspect-in-decades-old-homicides/
WTKR News 3
https://www.wtkr.com/news/is-man-linked-to-one-of-the-colonial-parkway-murders-connected-to-the-other-cases
Virginian Pilot: Who was Alan Wade Wilmer Sr.? Man suspected in two ‘Colonial Parkway’ murders died alone in 2017
https://www.pilotonline.com/2024/01/14/who-was-alan-wade-wilmer-sr-man-suspected-in-colonial-parkway-murders-died-alone-in-2017/
Colonial Parkway Murders Facebook page with more than 18,000 followers: https://www.facebook.com/ColonialParkwayCase
You can also participate in an in-depth discussion of the Colonial Parkway Murders here:
https://earonsgsk.proboards.com/board/50/colonial-parkway-murders
Mind Over Murder is proud to be a Spreaker Prime Podcaster:
https://www.spreaker.com
Join the discussion on our Mind Over Murder
Colonial Parkway Murders website: https://colonialparkwaymurders.com
Mind Over Murder Podcast website: https://mindovermurderpodcast.com
Please subscribe and rate us at your favorite podcast sites. Ratings and reviews are very important. Please share and tell your friends!
We launch a new episode of "Mind Over Murder" every Monday morning, and a bonus episode every Thursday morning.
Sponsors: Othram and DNAsolves.com
Contribute Your DNA to help solve cases: https://dnasolves.com/user/register
Follow "Mind Over Murder" on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MurderOver
Follow Bill Thomas on Twitter: https://twitter.com/BillThomas56
Follow "Colonial Parkway Murders" on Facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/ColonialParkwayCase/
Follow us on InstaGram:: https://www.instagram.com/colonialparkwaymurders/
Check out the entire Crawlspace Media network at http://crawlspace-media.com/
All rights reserved. Mind Over Murder, Copyright Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley,
Another Dog Productions/Absolute Zero Productions
Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/mind-over-murder--4847179/support.

BONUS: Blood in the Water w Casey Sherman Jul 03, 2025

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New York Times bestselling author Casey Sherman joins Mind Over Murder hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley to discuss his new true crime book, "Blood in the Water: The Untold Story of a Family Tragedy." The book tells the amazing true story of Nathan Carman, who was accused of both killing his mother on a family fishing trip in the North Atlantic, as well as being suspected of shooting his multimillionaire grandfather to death, all in pursuit of wealth and power. This bonus episode of "Mind Over Murder" originally ran on March 17, 2025.
Goodreads: Blood in the Water: The Untold Story of a Family Tragedy
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/215057204-blood-in-the-water?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=EYz0kZw1FX&rank=1
Amazon: Blood in the Water: The Untold Story of a Family Tragedy
https://www.amazon.com/Blood-Water-Untold-Family-Tragedy/dp/1728298199?author-follow=B001JRVP5C
WTKR News 3: One year after development in Colonial Parkway Murders, where do things stand?
https://www.wtkr.com/news/in-the-community/historic-triangle/one-year-after-development-in-colonial-parkway-murders-where-do-things-stand
Won't you help the Mind Over Murder podcast increase our visibility and shine the spotlight on the "Colonial Parkway Murders" and other unsolved cases? Contribute any amount you can here:
https://www.gofundme.com/f/mind-over-murder-podcast-expenses?utm_campaign=p_lico+share-sheet&utm_medium=copy_link&utm_source=customer
WTVR CBS News: Colonial Parkway murders victims' families keep hope cases will be solved:
https://www.wtvr.com/news/local-news/colonial-parkway-murders-update-april-19-2024
WAVY TV 10 News: New questions raised in Colonial Parkway murders:
https://www.wavy.com/news/local-news/new-questions-raised-in-colonial-parkway-murders/
Alan Wade Wilmer, Sr. has been named as the killer of Robin Edwards and David Knobling in the Colonial Parkway Murders in September 1987, as well as the murderer of Teresa Howell in June 1989. He has also been linked to the April 1988 disappearance and likely murder of Keith Call and Cassandra Hailey, another pair in the Colonial Parkway Murders.
13News Now investigates: A serial killer's DNA will not be entered into CODIS database:
https://www.13newsnow.com/video/news/local/13news-now-investigates/291-e82a9e0b-38e3-4f95-982a-40e960a71e49
WAVY TV 10 on the Colonial Parkway Murders Announcement with photos:
https://www.wavy.com/news/crime/deceased-man-identified-as-suspect-in-decades-old-homicides/
WTKR News 3
https://www.wtkr.com/news/is-man-linked-to-one-of-the-colonial-parkway-murders-connected-to-the-other-cases
Virginian Pilot: Who was Alan Wade Wilmer Sr.? Man suspected in two ‘Colonial Parkway’ murders died alone in 2017
https://www.pilotonline.com/2024/01/14/who-was-alan-wade-wilmer-sr-man-suspected-in-colonial-parkway-murders-died-alone-in-2017/
Colonial Parkway Murders Facebook page with more than 18,000 followers: https://www.facebook.com/ColonialParkwayCase
You can also participate in an in-depth discussion of the Colonial Parkway Murders here:
https://earonsgsk.proboards.com/board/50/colonial-parkway-murders
Mind Over Murder is proud to be a Spreaker Prime Podcaster:
https://www.spreaker.com
Join the discussion on our Mind Over Murder
Colonial Parkway Murders website: https://colonialparkwaymurders.com
Mind Over Murder Podcast website: https://mindovermurderpodcast.com
Please subscribe and rate us at your favorite podcast sites. Ratings and reviews are very important. Please share and tell your friends!
We launch a new episode of "Mind Over Murder" every Monday morning, and a bonus episode every Thursday morning.
Sponsors: Othram and DNAsolves.com
Contribute Your DNA to help solve cases: https://dnasolves.com/user/register
Follow "Mind Over Murder" on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MurderOver
Follow Bill Thomas on Twitter: https://twitter.com/BillThomas56
Follow "Colonial Parkway Murders" on Facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/ColonialParkwayCase/
Follow us on InstaGram:: https://www.instagram.com/colonialparkwaymurders/
Check out the entire Crawlspace Media network at http://crawlspace-media.com/
All rights reserved. Mind Over Murder, Copyright Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley,
Another Dog Productions/Absolute Zero Productions
Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/mind-over-murder--4847179/support.

NEW: Murderland: Crime and Bloodlust in the Time of Serial Killers Jun 30, 2025

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Pulitzer Prize-winning writer Caroline Fraser joins "Mind Over Murder" co-hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley to discuss her new book "Murderland: Crime and Bloodlust in the Time of Serial Killers." The work explores the provocative premise that environmental toxins may have led men living in the Pacific Northwest to become serial killers. Could a poisonous mix of lead, copper and arsenic fumes spewing out of a massive industrial smelting plant in Tacoma, Washington have impacted those living in its shadow?
CrimeCon: We’re going to CrimeCon again, folks! Join us in Denver for new merch, some MOM listener hangouts, and a lot of fun! Use the code MINDOVERMURDER to get 10% off your tickets between now and September! See you there!
Murderland: Crime and Bloodlust in the Time of Serial Killers
https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/741809/murderland-by-caroline-fraser/
Murderland on Goodreads:
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/217927444-murderland?ac=1&from_search=true&qid=FuNcX09PwP&rank=1#CommunityReviews
WTKR News 3: One year after development in Colonial Parkway Murders, where do things stand?
https://www.wtkr.com/news/in-the-community/historic-triangle/one-year-after-development-in-colonial-parkway-murders-where-do-things-stand
Won't you help the Mind Over Murder podcast increase our visibility and shine the spotlight on the "Colonial Parkway Murders" and other unsolved cases? Contribute any amount you can here:
https://www.gofundme.com/f/mind-over-murder-podcast-expenses?utm_campaign=p_lico+share-sheet&utm_medium=copy_link&utm_source=customer
WTVR CBS News: Colonial Parkway murders victims' families keep hope cases will be solved:
https://www.wtvr.com/news/local-news/colonial-parkway-murders-update-april-19-2024
WAVY TV 10 News: New questions raised in Colonial Parkway murders:
https://www.wavy.com/news/local-news/new-questions-raised-in-colonial-parkway-murders/
Alan Wade Wilmer, Sr. has been named as the killer of Robin Edwards and David Knobling in the Colonial Parkway Murders in September 1987, as well as the murderer of Teresa Howell in June 1989. He has also been linked to the April 1988 disappearance and likely murder of Keith Call and Cassandra Hailey, another pair in the Colonial Parkway Murders.
13News Now investigates: A serial killer's DNA will not be entered into CODIS database:
https://www.13newsnow.com/video/news/local/13news-now-investigates/291-e82a9e0b-38e3-4f95-982a-40e960a71e49
WAVY TV 10 on the Colonial Parkway Murders Announcement with photos:
https://www.wavy.com/news/crime/deceased-man-identified-as-suspect-in-decades-old-homicides/
WTKR News 3
https://www.wtkr.com/news/is-man-linked-to-one-of-the-colonial-parkway-murders-connected-to-the-other-cases
Virginian Pilot: Who was Alan Wade Wilmer Sr.? Man suspected in two ‘Colonial Parkway’ murders died alone in 2017
https://www.pilotonline.com/2024/01/14/who-was-alan-wade-wilmer-sr-man-suspected-in-colonial-parkway-murders-died-alone-in-2017/
Colonial Parkway Murders Facebook page with more than 18,000 followers: https://www.facebook.com/ColonialParkwayCase
You can also participate in an in-depth discussion of the Colonial Parkway Murders here:
https://earonsgsk.proboards.com/board/50/colonial-parkway-murders
Mind Over Murder is proud to be a Spreaker Prime Podcaster:
https://www.spreaker.com
Join the discussion on our Mind Over Murder
Colonial Parkway Murders website: https://colonialparkwaymurders.com
Mind Over Murder Podcast website: https://mindovermurderpodcast.com
Please subscribe and rate us at your favorite podcast sites. Ratings and reviews are very important. Please share and tell your friends!
We launch a new episode of "Mind Over Murder" every Monday morning, and a bonus episode every Thursday morning.
Sponsors: Othram and DNAsolves.com
Contribute Your DNA to help solve cases: https://dnasolves.com/user/register
Follow "Mind Over Murder" on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MurderOver
Follow Bill Thomas on Twitter: https://twitter.com/BillThomas56
Follow "Colonial Parkway Murders" on Facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/ColonialParkwayCase/
Follow us on InstaGram:: https://www.instagram.com/colonialparkwaymurders/
Check out the entire Crawlspace Media network at http://crawlspace-media.com/
All rights reserved. Mind Over Murder, Copyright Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley,
Another Dog Productions/Absolute Zero Productions
Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/mind-over-murder--4847179/support.

BONUS: Silent Witness: Ashley Spence and DNA Justice Project Jun 28, 2025

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Author and advocate Ashley Spence joins "Mind Over Murder" co-hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley to discuss her new book "Silent Witness: How DNA Uncovered the Truth and Empowered My Healing." Ashley, a sexual assault survivor herself, founded the DNA Justice Project to advocate how forensic DNA can change lives, transform justice and prevent crimes before they happen. This bonus episode of "Mind Over Murder"originally ran on March 3, 2025.
CrimeCon: We’re going to CrimeCon again, folks! Join us in Denver for new merch, some MOM listener hangouts, and a lot of fun! Use the code MINDOVERMURDER to get 10% off your tickets between now and September! See you there!
Goodreads: Silent Witness: How DNA Uncovered the Truth and Empowered My Healing
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/222721460-silent-witness
DNA Justice Project:
https://www.dnajusticeproject.org/
RAINN: Together, we will create a world free from sexual violence.
https://rainn.org/
WTKR News 3: One year after development in Colonial Parkway Murders, where do things stand?
https://www.wtkr.com/news/in-the-community/historic-triangle/one-year-after-development-in-colonial-parkway-murders-where-do-things-stand
Won't you help the Mind Over Murder podcast increase our visibility and shine the spotlight on the "Colonial Parkway Murders" and other unsolved cases? Contribute any amount you can here:
https://www.gofundme.com/f/mind-over-murder-podcast-expenses?utm_campaign=p_lico+share-sheet&utm_medium=copy_link&utm_source=customer
WTVR CBS News: Colonial Parkway murders victims' families keep hope cases will be solved:
https://www.wtvr.com/news/local-news/colonial-parkway-murders-update-april-19-2024
WAVY TV 10 News: New questions raised in Colonial Parkway murders:
https://www.wavy.com/news/local-news/new-questions-raised-in-colonial-parkway-murders/
Alan Wade Wilmer, Sr. has been named as the killer of Robin Edwards and David Knobling in the Colonial Parkway Murders in September 1987, as well as the murderer of Teresa Howell in June 1989. He has also been linked to the April 1988 disappearance and likely murder of Keith Call and Cassandra Hailey, another pair in the Colonial Parkway Murders.
13News Now investigates: A serial killer's DNA will not be entered into CODIS database:
https://www.13newsnow.com/video/news/local/13news-now-investigates/291-e82a9e0b-38e3-4f95-982a-40e960a71e49
WAVY TV 10 on the Colonial Parkway Murders Announcement with photos:
https://www.wavy.com/news/crime/deceased-man-identified-as-suspect-in-decades-old-homicides/
WTKR News 3
https://www.wtkr.com/news/is-man-linked-to-one-of-the-colonial-parkway-murders-connected-to-the-other-cases
Virginian Pilot: Who was Alan Wade Wilmer Sr.? Man suspected in two ‘Colonial Parkway’ murders died alone in 2017
https://www.pilotonline.com/2024/01/14/who-was-alan-wade-wilmer-sr-man-suspected-in-colonial-parkway-murders-died-alone-in-2017/
Colonial Parkway Murders Facebook page with more than 18,000 followers: https://www.facebook.com/ColonialParkwayCase
You can also participate in an in-depth discussion of the Colonial Parkway Murders here:
https://earonsgsk.proboards.com/board/50/colonial-parkway-murders
Mind Over Murder is proud to be a Spreaker Prime Podcaster:
https://www.spreaker.com
Join the discussion on our Mind Over Murder
Colonial Parkway Murders website: https://colonialparkwaymurders.com
Mind Over Murder Podcast website: https://mindovermurderpodcast.com
Please subscribe and rate us at your favorite podcast sites. Ratings and reviews are very important. Please share and tell your friends!
We launch a new episode of "Mind Over Murder" every Monday morning, and a bonus episode every Thursday morning.
Sponsors: Othram and DNAsolves.com
Contribute Your DNA to help solve cases: https://dnasolves.com/user/register
Follow "Mind Over Murder" on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MurderOver
Follow Bill Thomas on Twitter: https://twitter.com/BillThomas56
Follow "Colonial Parkway Murders" on Facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/ColonialParkwayCase/
Follow us on InstaGram:: https://www.instagram.com/colonialparkwaymurders/
Check out the entire Crawlspace Media network at http://crawlspace-media.com/
All rights reserved. Mind Over Murder, Copyright Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley,
Another Dog Productions/Absolute Zero Productions
Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/mind-over-murder--4847179/support.

NEW: Junk Science and the American Justice System Jun 23, 2025

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"Mind Over Murder" hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley are joined by Chris Fabricant of the Innocence Project to discuss his new edition of his book, "Junk Science and the American Criminal Justice System." Chris describes the shocking story of how discredited scientific forensics have been used in thousands of wrongful convictions across the United States.
Goodreads: Junk Science and the American Criminal Justice System:
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/59427482-junk-science-and-the-american-criminal-justice-system
WTKR News 3: One year after development in Colonial Parkway Murders, where do things stand?
https://www.wtkr.com/news/in-the-community/historic-triangle/one-year-after-development-in-colonial-parkway-murders-where-do-things-stand
Won't you help the Mind Over Murder podcast increase our visibility and shine the spotlight on the "Colonial Parkway Murders" and other unsolved cases? Contribute any amount you can here:
https://www.gofundme.com/f/mind-over-murder-podcast-expenses?utm_campaign=p_lico+share-sheet&utm_medium=copy_link&utm_source=customer
WTVR CBS News: Colonial Parkway murders victims' families keep hope cases will be solved:
https://www.wtvr.com/news/local-news/colonial-parkway-murders-update-april-19-2024
WAVY TV 10 News: New questions raised in Colonial Parkway murders:
https://www.wavy.com/news/local-news/new-questions-raised-in-colonial-parkway-murders/
Alan Wade Wilmer, Sr. has been named as the killer of Robin Edwards and David Knobling in the Colonial Parkway Murders in September 1987, as well as the murderer of Teresa Howell in June 1989. He has also been linked to the April 1988 disappearance and likely murder of Keith Call and Cassandra Hailey, another pair in the Colonial Parkway Murders.
13News Now investigates: A serial killer's DNA will not be entered into CODIS database:
https://www.13newsnow.com/video/news/local/13news-now-investigates/291-e82a9e0b-38e3-4f95-982a-40e960a71e49
WAVY TV 10 on the Colonial Parkway Murders Announcement with photos:
https://www.wavy.com/news/crime/deceased-man-identified-as-suspect-in-decades-old-homicides/
WTKR News 3
https://www.wtkr.com/news/is-man-linked-to-one-of-the-colonial-parkway-murders-connected-to-the-other-cases
Virginian Pilot: Who was Alan Wade Wilmer Sr.? Man suspected in two ‘Colonial Parkway’ murders died alone in 2017
https://www.pilotonline.com/2024/01/14/who-was-alan-wade-wilmer-sr-man-suspected-in-colonial-parkway-murders-died-alone-in-2017/
Colonial Parkway Murders Facebook page with more than 18,000 followers: https://www.facebook.com/ColonialParkwayCase
You can also participate in an in-depth discussion of the Colonial Parkway Murders here:
https://earonsgsk.proboards.com/board/50/colonial-parkway-murders
Mind Over Murder is proud to be a Spreaker Prime Podcaster:
https://www.spreaker.com
Join the discussion on our Mind Over Murder
Colonial Parkway Murders website: https://colonialparkwaymurders.com
Mind Over Murder Podcast website: https://mindovermurderpodcast.com
Please subscribe and rate us at your favorite podcast sites. Ratings and reviews are very important. Please share and tell your friends!
We launch a new episode of "Mind Over Murder" every Monday morning, and a bonus episode every Thursday morning.
Sponsors: Othram and DNAsolves.com
Contribute Your DNA to help solve cases: https://dnasolves.com/user/register
Follow "Mind Over Murder" on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MurderOver
Follow Bill Thomas on Twitter: https://twitter.com/BillThomas56
Follow "Colonial Parkway Murders" on Facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/ColonialParkwayCase/
Follow us on InstaGram:: https://www.instagram.com/colonialparkwaymurders/
Check out the entire Crawlspace Media network at http://crawlspace-media.com/
All rights reserved. Mind Over Murder, Copyright Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley,
Another Dog Productions/Absolute Zero Productions
Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/mind-over-murder--4847179/support.

BONUS: The Sinners All Bow with Kate Winkler Dawson Jun 19, 2025

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Author and podcaster Kate Winkler Dawson joins "Mind Over Murder" hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley to discuss her new book, "The Sinners All Bow: Two Authors, One Murder and the Real Hester Prynne." We also touch on "Buried Bones," her historical true crime podcast with investigator Paul Holes. This bonus episode of "Mind Over Murder" originally ran on February 24, 2025.
The Sinners All Bow: Two Authors, One Murder and the Real Hester Prynne:
https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/727618/the-sinners-all-bow-by-kate-winkler-dawson/
Buried Bones Podcast:
https://www.exactlyrightmedia.com/buried-bones
WTKR News 3: One year after development in Colonial Parkway Murders, where do things stand?
https://www.wtkr.com/news/in-the-community/historic-triangle/one-year-after-development-in-colonial-parkway-murders-where-do-things-stand
Won't you help the Mind Over Murder podcast increase our visibility and shine the spotlight on the "Colonial Parkway Murders" and other unsolved cases? Contribute any amount you can here:
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WTVR CBS News: Colonial Parkway murders victims' families keep hope cases will be solved:
https://www.wtvr.com/news/local-news/colonial-parkway-murders-update-april-19-2024
WAVY TV 10 News: New questions raised in Colonial Parkway murders:
https://www.wavy.com/news/local-news/new-questions-raised-in-colonial-parkway-murders/
Alan Wade Wilmer, Sr. has been named as the killer of Robin Edwards and David Knobling in the Colonial Parkway Murders in September 1987, as well as the murderer of Teresa Howell in June 1989. He has also been linked to the April 1988 disappearance and likely murder of Keith Call and Cassandra Hailey, another pair in the Colonial Parkway Murders.
13News Now investigates: A serial killer's DNA will not be entered into CODIS database:
https://www.13newsnow.com/video/news/local/13news-now-investigates/291-e82a9e0b-38e3-4f95-982a-40e960a71e49
WAVY TV 10 on the Colonial Parkway Murders Announcement with photos:
https://www.wavy.com/news/crime/deceased-man-identified-as-suspect-in-decades-old-homicides/
WTKR News 3
https://www.wtkr.com/news/is-man-linked-to-one-of-the-colonial-parkway-murders-connected-to-the-other-cases
Virginian Pilot: Who was Alan Wade Wilmer Sr.? Man suspected in two ‘Colonial Parkway’ murders died alone in 2017
https://www.pilotonline.com/2024/01/14/who-was-alan-wade-wilmer-sr-man-suspected-in-colonial-parkway-murders-died-alone-in-2017/
Colonial Parkway Murders Facebook page with more than 18,000 followers: https://www.facebook.com/ColonialParkwayCase
You can also participate in an in-depth discussion of the Colonial Parkway Murders here:
https://earonsgsk.proboards.com/board/50/colonial-parkway-murders
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NEW: The D B Cooper Vortex (Part 4) Jun 16, 2025

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"Mind Over Murder" hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley discuss the mysterious case of D B Cooper with Darren Schaefer, the host of "The Cooper Vortex" podcast. Dan "DB" Cooper, who successfully hijacked a Northwest Airlines passenger jet and parachuted into the dense forest of the Pacific Northwest. He was never caught, although a small amount of the $200,000 ransom was later recovered. This is Part 4 of 4 parts on the Dan "DB" Cooper case.
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The Cooper Vortex Podcast:
https://thecoopervortex.podbean.com/
DB Cooper Sleuth on YouTube:
https://www.youtube.com/@dbcoopersleuth
October 2023 Popular Mechanics article--Newcomb:
https://www.popularmechanics.com/flight/airlines/a43298881/db-cooper-case-could-be-
solved-dna/
October 2023 Popular Mechanics article—Natale:
https://www.popularmechanics.com/flight/a45639586/who-was-db-cooper/
January 2024 Popular Mechanics article:
https://www.popularmechanics.com/flight/a46332899/new-evidence-db-cooper-mystery/
February 2024 Popular Mechanics article:
https://www.popularmechanics.com/flight/a46788110/db-cooper-confession-new-
evidence-identity/
History.Com: https://www.history.com/articles/who-was-d-b-cooper
FBI.GOV: https://www.fbi.gov/history/famous-cases/db-cooper-hijacking
September 2011 NPR: All Things Considered interview:
https://www.npr.org/2011/09/25/140216653/skyjack-the-unsolved-case-of-d-b-coopers-
escape
DB Cooper: https://dbcooperhijack.com/2019/01/04/d-b-cooper-cary-grant-and-the-
1959-film-north-by-northwest/
WTKR News 3: One year after development in Colonial Parkway Murders, where do things stand?
https://www.wtkr.com/news/in-the-community/historic-triangle/one-year-after-development-in-colonial-parkway-murders-where-do-things-stand
Won't you help the Mind Over Murder podcast increase our visibility and shine the spotlight on the "Colonial Parkway Murders" and other unsolved cases? Contribute any amount you can here:
https://www.gofundme.com/f/mind-over-murder-podcast-expenses?utm_campaign=p_lico+share-sheet&utm_medium=copy_link&utm_source=customer
WTVR CBS News: Colonial Parkway murders victims' families keep hope cases will be solved:
https://www.wtvr.com/news/local-news/colonial-parkway-murders-update-april-19-2024
WAVY TV 10 News: New questions raised in Colonial Parkway murders:
https://www.wavy.com/news/local-news/new-questions-raised-in-colonial-parkway-murders/
Alan Wade Wilmer, Sr. has been named as the killer of Robin Edwards and David Knobling in the Colonial Parkway Murders in September 1987, as well as the murderer of Teresa Howell in June 1989. He has also been linked to the April 1988 disappearance and likely murder of Keith Call and Cassandra Hailey, another pair in the Colonial Parkway Murders.
13News Now investigates: A serial killer's DNA will not be entered into CODIS database:
https://www.13newsnow.com/video/news/local/13news-now-investigates/291-e82a9e0b-38e3-4f95-982a-40e960a71e49
WAVY TV 10 on the Colonial Parkway Murders Announcement with photos:
https://www.wavy.com/news/crime/deceased-man-identified-as-suspect-in-decades-old-homicides/
WTKR News 3
https://www.wtkr.com/news/is-man-linked-to-one-of-the-colonial-parkway-murders-connected-to-the-other-cases
Virginian Pilot: Who was Alan Wade Wilmer Sr.? Man suspected in two ‘Colonial Parkway’ murders died alone in 2017
https://www.pilotonline.com/2024/01/14/who-was-alan-wade-wilmer-sr-man-suspected-in-colonial-parkway-murders-died-alone-in-2017/
Colonial Parkway Murders Facebook page with more than 18,000 followers: https://www.facebook.com/ColonialParkwayCase
You can also participate in an in-depth discussion of the Colonial Parkway Murders here:
https://earonsgsk.proboards.com/board/50/colonial-parkway-murders
Mind Over Murder is proud to be a Spreaker Prime Podcaster:
https://www.spreaker.com
Join the discussion on our Mind Over Murder
Colonial Parkway Murders website: https://colonialparkwaymurders.com
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Please subscribe and rate us at your favorite podcast sites. Ratings and reviews are very important. Please share and tell your friends!
We launch a new episode of "Mind Over Murder" every Monday morning, and a bonus episode every Thursday morning.
Sponsors: Othram and DNAsolves.com
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BONUS: L.A. Coroner: Thomas Noguchi and Death in Hollywood Jun 13, 2025

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Join "Mind Over Murder" co-hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley as they meet award winning author and historian Anne Soon Choi to discuss her new book "L.A. Coroner: Thomas Noguchi and Death in Hollywood," which tells the story of one of America's most prominent medical examiners. Dr. Noguchi's outstanding and sometimes controversial work earned him the nickname "Coroner to the Stars." This bonus episode of "mind Over Murder" originally ran on February 17, 2025.
L.A. Coroner: Thomas Noguchi and Death in Hollywood book:
https://thirdstatebooks.com/pages/la-coroner
Amazon: L.A. Coroner: Thomas Noguchi and Death in Hollywood
https://www.amazon.com/L-Coroner-Thomas-Noguchi-Hollywood/dp/B0CRKJSRWF
Goodreads: L.A. Coroner: Thomas Noguchi and Death in Hollywood
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/204879625-l-a-coroner?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=Uze0rfkiU9&rank=2
WTKR News 3: One year after development in Colonial Parkway Murders, where do things stand?
https://www.wtkr.com/news/in-the-community/historic-triangle/one-year-after-development-in-colonial-parkway-murders-where-do-things-stand
Won't you help the Mind Over Murder podcast increase our visibility and shine the spotlight on the "Colonial Parkway Murders" and other unsolved cases? Contribute any amount you can here:
https://www.gofundme.com/f/mind-over-murder-podcast-expenses?utm_campaign=p_lico+share-sheet&utm_medium=copy_link&utm_source=customer
WTVR CBS News: Colonial Parkway murders victims' families keep hope cases will be solved:
https://www.wtvr.com/news/local-news/colonial-parkway-murders-update-april-19-2024
WAVY TV 10 News: New questions raised in Colonial Parkway murders:
https://www.wavy.com/news/local-news/new-questions-raised-in-colonial-parkway-murders/
Alan Wade Wilmer, Sr. has been named as the killer of Robin Edwards and David Knobling in the Colonial Parkway Murders in September 1987, as well as the murderer of Teresa Howell in June 1989. He has also been linked to the April 1988 disappearance and likely murder of Keith Call and Cassandra Hailey, another pair in the Colonial Parkway Murders.
13News Now investigates: A serial killer's DNA will not be entered into CODIS database:
https://www.13newsnow.com/video/news/local/13news-now-investigates/291-e82a9e0b-38e3-4f95-982a-40e960a71e49
WAVY TV 10 on the Colonial Parkway Murders Announcement with photos:
https://www.wavy.com/news/crime/deceased-man-identified-as-suspect-in-decades-old-homicides/
WTKR News 3
https://www.wtkr.com/news/is-man-linked-to-one-of-the-colonial-parkway-murders-connected-to-the-other-cases
Virginian Pilot: Who was Alan Wade Wilmer Sr.? Man suspected in two ‘Colonial Parkway’ murders died alone in 2017
https://www.pilotonline.com/2024/01/14/who-was-alan-wade-wilmer-sr-man-suspected-in-colonial-parkway-murders-died-alone-in-2017/
Colonial Parkway Murders Facebook page with more than 18,000 followers: https://www.facebook.com/ColonialParkwayCase
You can also participate in an in-depth discussion of the Colonial Parkway Murders here:
https://earonsgsk.proboards.com/board/50/colonial-parkway-murders
Mind Over Murder is proud to be a Spreaker Prime Podcaster:
https://www.spreaker.com
Join the discussion on our Mind Over Murder
Colonial Parkway Murders website: https://colonialparkwaymurders.com
Mind Over Murder Podcast website: https://mindovermurderpodcast.com
Please subscribe and rate us at your favorite podcast sites. Ratings and reviews are very important. Please share and tell your friends!
We launch a new episode of "Mind Over Murder" every Monday morning, and a bonus episode every Thursday morning.
Sponsors: Othram and DNAsolves.com
Contribute Your DNA to help solve cases: https://dnasolves.com/user/register
Follow "Mind Over Murder" on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MurderOver
Follow Bill Thomas on Twitter: https://twitter.com/BillThomas56
Follow "Colonial Parkway Murders" on Facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/ColonialParkwayCase/
Follow us on InstaGram:: https://www.instagram.com/colonialparkwaymurders/
Check out the entire Crawlspace Media network at http://crawlspace-media.com/
All rights reserved. Mind Over Murder, Copyright Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley,
Another Dog Productions/Absolute Zero Productions
Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/mind-over-murder--4847179/support.

NEW: The D B Cooper Vortex (Part 3) Jun 09, 2025

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"Mind Over Murder" hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley discuss the mysterious case of D B Cooper with Darren Schaefer, the host of "The Cooper Vortex" podcast. Dan "DB" Cooper, who successfully hijacked a Northwest Airlines passenger jet and parachuted into the dense forest of the Pacific Northwest. He was never caught, although a small amount of the $200,000 ransom was later recovered. This is Part 3 of 4 parts on the Dan "DB" Cooper case.
The Cooper Vortex Podcast:
https://thecoopervortex.podbean.com/
October 2023 Popular Mechanics article--Newcomb:
https://www.popularmechanics.com/flight/airlines/a43298881/db-cooper-case-could-be-
solved-dna/
October 2023 Popular Mechanics article—Natale:
https://www.popularmechanics.com/flight/a45639586/who-was-db-cooper/
January 2024 Popular Mechanics article:
https://www.popularmechanics.com/flight/a46332899/new-evidence-db-cooper-mystery/
February 2024 Popular Mechanics article:
https://www.popularmechanics.com/flight/a46788110/db-cooper-confession-new-
evidence-identity/
History.Com: https://www.history.com/articles/who-was-d-b-cooper
FBI.GOV: https://www.fbi.gov/history/famous-cases/db-cooper-hijacking
September 2011 NPR: All Things Considered interview:
https://www.npr.org/2011/09/25/140216653/skyjack-the-unsolved-case-of-d-b-coopers-
escape
DB Cooper: https://dbcooperhijack.com/2019/01/04/d-b-cooper-cary-grant-and-the-
1959-film-north-by-northwest/
WTKR News 3: One year after development in Colonial Parkway Murders, where do things stand?
https://www.wtkr.com/news/in-the-community/historic-triangle/one-year-after-development-in-colonial-parkway-murders-where-do-things-stand
Won't you help the Mind Over Murder podcast increase our visibility and shine the spotlight on the "Colonial Parkway Murders" and other unsolved cases? Contribute any amount you can here:
https://www.gofundme.com/f/mind-over-murder-podcast-expenses?utm_campaign=p_lico+share-sheet&utm_medium=copy_link&utm_source=customer
WTVR CBS News: Colonial Parkway murders victims' families keep hope cases will be solved:
https://www.wtvr.com/news/local-news/colonial-parkway-murders-update-april-19-2024
WAVY TV 10 News: New questions raised in Colonial Parkway murders:
https://www.wavy.com/news/local-news/new-questions-raised-in-colonial-parkway-murders/
Alan Wade Wilmer, Sr. has been named as the killer of Robin Edwards and David Knobling in the Colonial Parkway Murders in September 1987, as well as the murderer of Teresa Howell in June 1989. He has also been linked to the April 1988 disappearance and likely murder of Keith Call and Cassandra Hailey, another pair in the Colonial Parkway Murders.
13News Now investigates: A serial killer's DNA will not be entered into CODIS database:
https://www.13newsnow.com/video/news/local/13news-now-investigates/291-e82a9e0b-38e3-4f95-982a-40e960a71e49
WAVY TV 10 on the Colonial Parkway Murders Announcement with photos:
https://www.wavy.com/news/crime/deceased-man-identified-as-suspect-in-decades-old-homicides/
WTKR News 3
https://www.wtkr.com/news/is-man-linked-to-one-of-the-colonial-parkway-murders-connected-to-the-other-cases
Virginian Pilot: Who was Alan Wade Wilmer Sr.? Man suspected in two ‘Colonial Parkway’ murders died alone in 2017
https://www.pilotonline.com/2024/01/14/who-was-alan-wade-wilmer-sr-man-suspected-in-colonial-parkway-murders-died-alone-in-2017/
Colonial Parkway Murders Facebook page with more than 18,000 followers: https://www.facebook.com/ColonialParkwayCase
You can also participate in an in-depth discussion of the Colonial Parkway Murders here:
https://earonsgsk.proboards.com/board/50/colonial-parkway-murders
Mind Over Murder is proud to be a Spreaker Prime Podcaster:
https://www.spreaker.com
Join the discussion on our Mind Over Murder
Colonial Parkway Murders website: https://colonialparkwaymurders.com
Mind Over Murder Podcast website: https://mindovermurderpodcast.com
Please subscribe and rate us at your favorite podcast sites. Ratings and reviews are very important. Please share and tell your friends!
We launch a new episode of "Mind Over Murder" every Monday morning, and a bonus episode every Thursday morning.
Sponsors: Othram and DNAsolves.com
Contribute Your DNA to help solve cases: https://dnasolves.com/user/register
Follow "Mind Over Murder" on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MurderOver
Follow Bill Thomas on Twitter: https://twitter.com/BillThomas56
Follow "Colonial Parkway Murders" on Facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/ColonialParkwayCase/
Follow us on InstaGram:: https://www.instagram.com/colonialparkwaymurders/
Check out the entire Crawlspace Media network at http://crawlspace-media.com/
All rights reserved. Mind Over Murder, Copyright Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley,
Another Dog Productions/Absolute Zero Productions
Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/mind-over-murder--4847179/support.

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