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17. NASA’s UAP Team Needs More Data Jun 04, 2023

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In this episode, we're talking about the NASA UAP Study Panel, who recently held their first public briefing ahead of their expected report in July. During the briefing, they questioned Dr Kirkpatrick from AARO, and agreed on the need for more and better quality data on UAP. We'll also talk about Dr Avi Loeb of Harvard, whose Galileo Project is moving forward with public data collection and announced they have plans to set up five additional observatories. And last but very much not least, we'll hear from Chris #UFODaddy Mellon, who says that if the US Government holds UFO crash materials, now is the time to reveal them!

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Jeremy Corbell: Whistleblowers are angry about AARO saying no evidence of extraterrestrial
Tim McMillan: Dr Kirkpatrick is rated as a “Highly Qualified Expert”
The Debrief: NASA, AARO and the Galileo Project Agree on the Need for a Scientific Study of UAP
WSJ: NASA's UFO Research Team Briefs the Public
The Debrief: NASA Study Team on Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena Calls for Better Data, Ending Harassment and Stigmas
The Debrief: NASA’s UAP Study: Here Are the Key Takeaways from Yesterday’s Public Briefing
Reddit: Summary of NASA's UAP task force livestream
The Hill: US military has been observing ‘metallic orbs’ making extraordinary ‘maneuvers’
Liberation Times: NASA Confirms It Has No Official Position On ‘GoFast’ UFO Video
Politico: If the Government Has UFO Crash Materials, It’s Time to Reveal Them

16. Dr. Garry Nolan May 23, 2023

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Dr. Garry Nolan, a well-respected Standard immunologist, was interviewed recently at a financial conference about UFOs. He said some fascinating things about UAP, the government's response, what they might be, and how to destigmatize the topic to encourage scientists to take it seriously. He also mentioned that a recent whistleblower testimony "created quite a hornet's nest in Washington!" We'll talk about Garry's background, and why we find him credible.

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15. Is AARO Being Set Up to Fail? #UFOMamaBear May 08, 2023

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We're back is a bit of followup on the recent UAP hearing. In particular a few red flags have been raised that seem to indicate that the DOD is, at best, dragging their feet, and at worst, actively working to sabotage AARO, the UFO office set up at the behest of Congress. In addition to that, we're hearing increasingly specific information about whistleblowers testifying to both AARO and Congress, which raises the question of why Dr. Kirkpatrick said there's no credible evidence. Something doesn't add up here, and it feels like pressure is building.

Also, we dub Senator Kirsten Gillibrand "UFO Mama Bear," joining the ranks of Chris "UFO Daddy" Mellon.

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Tim McMillan: AARO doesn’t have Title 50 authority.
The Debrief: Here Are the Major Takeaways You Missed From the Recent Senate Hearing on Unidentified Aerial Phenomena
Reddit: New letter from US Senators Mark Warner and Marco Rubio to DOD expressing concerns about NDAA provisions
New York Post: Three months after Chinese spy balloon, DoD still hasn’t strengthened UFO analysis office
Job posting: AARO Deputy Director
Klaus: Job posting states that candidates should have expertise in “foreign material acquisition and exploitation.”
Chris Mellon: “I find the testimony of US military personnel in the Nimitz case perfectly credible evidence…”
Chris Mellon: “For Dr. Kirkpatrick to claim there is no credible evidence is disingenuous at best.”
Garry Nolan: “Anecdotal evidence by credible witnesses… is data.”
Garry Nolan: “The extraordinary claims/evidence meme is pretentious nonsense.”
Lue Elizondo: “The fact is - I've already spoken to AARO at length.”
Liberation Times: Senator Gillibrand Invites UFO Whistleblowers To Share Testimony With Her Office
Daily Mail: Six whistleblowers who claim they worked on military UFO programs retrieving and analyzing crash material have come forward to spill their secrets to senior members of congress
Reddit: The last five years have spoiled everyone…

14. Congress Gets Mad: The April 2023 UAP Hearing! Apr 24, 2023

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For the last several weeks, rumors have been swirling that Congress was upset at the DoD over perceived foot-dragging on the topic of UAP. Sen. Gillibrand was demanding answers about a funding shortfall for the new AARO office, and many Congresspeople seemed frustrated with the lack of clarity from the military around the spy balloon shoot-downs. So when it was announced that a new public UAP hearing would be held soon, the community went wild. Speculation about what would come up in the hearing ranged from persistent rumors of whistleblower testimony about crash retrievals and reverse engineering programs all the way up to overt confirmation of non-human intelligence. In the end, the April 2023 hearing didn't cover any of that, and was more of a status update and view inside operations at AARO. We did get a new UAP video, a revised timeline for the next UAP report, some insight into how AARO investigates UAP cases, and hints of further hearings coming soon.

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13. Are UFOs Time Travelers? Mar 27, 2023

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Buckle up, because we're getting into the weird today! Recently, increasing reports have been emerging from US intelligence and government sources that UFOs may not be aliens, but our own descendants from the far future traveling back in time to avert an impending catastrophe. It's a wild idea, but there's a bit more substance to it than you might think!

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Black Vault: USAF Says All Photos / Videos of 2023 Balloon Shootdowns Classified
Ross Coulthart: Why the secrecy?
Politico: What the Biden administration isn’t telling Congress about spy balloons
News Nation: Rep Burchett on new UFO hearings
Michael Masters: Identified Flying Objects & The Extratempestrial Model
UFO Rabbit Hole: Interview with Michael Masters
Ross Coulthart: Theories of Everything interview mentioning future humans
Unidentified Celebrity Review: Interview with Franc Milburn
Wikipedia: The double-slit experiment
NPR: Paradox-Free Time Travel Is Theoretically Possible, Researchers Say
Quote: Banana Peels and Time Travel
Temporal Anomalies in Time Travel Movies
The UFO Rabbit Hole: Are UFOs Humans from the Future?
Point of Convergence: The case for time traveling post-terrestrial visitors
Point of Convergence: Reports of Future Humans Warring Over the Coming Planet-Wide Cataclysm
PBS Space Time: What If Space And Time Are NOT Real?
PBS Space Time: What’s Your Brain’s Role in Creating Space & Time?

12. Anjali: retired intelligence officer claims alien base in Mojave Desert Mar 12, 2023

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In March of 2021, I saw a post in r/aliens on Reddit by the title “Retired Defense Intelligence Officer with a CE5 Experience to Share.” It got a lot of attention with a great story and some pretty phenomenal claims. The author, a woman named Anjali, who is a former defense intelligence officer, claims to have met a man in 2018 who excavated a tunnel to find an alien base in a mountain on his land in the Mojave Desert. He took her there, and she met beings from a council overseeing life on earth. They told her that she needed to wake up and remember why she’s here, because humanity’s days are numbered and those who fail to evolve will not transcend.

I'm super excited about today's topic, because the excitement surrounding Anjali's reddit post and the subsequent months of drama are what really got me fully back into the UFO topic, and started Chuck and I talking about it even before we thought of doing a podcast.

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11. Is the Air Force lying to President Biden? Feb 26, 2023

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Y'all, it has been a *wild* two weeks since the US shot down three UFOs that turned out to be hobby balloons. The Pentagon is being weird about the balloons, the Senate is being weird about UAP, some sources claim the Navy told Biden that the Air Force is lying to him about UAP, and possibly as a result, Biden created his own independent UAP task force. Oh, and also, the Obama Library has thousands of pages of records about UAP? What is happening?

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Daily Mail: Pentagon's UFO office had only THREE staffers until recent weeks
Debrief: Excessive Secrecy Could Undermine U.S. Efforts to Evaluate UAP
Biden: Intelligence community says they’re private balloons
Aviation Week: Hobby Club’s Missing Balloon Feared Shot Down by USAF
John Kirby: We have not identified those responsible for the objects
BBC: US and Canada abandon search for three flying objects shot down
Debrief: US Senators Leave Classified Briefing on UAP with More Questions
Debrief: Pentagon has no plans to release images of objects
CNN: National security advisor will lead new “interagency team” to study UAP
Marco Rubio: Why create a new team when we have AARO?
Wall Street Journal: Pentagon’s UAP Office is Underfunded, Senators Say
Gillibrand: Bipartisan push for full funding of AARO
Lou Elizondo: comments on AARO vs new NSC team
Ross Coulthart: Navy commander told Biden about USAF coverup
Sen. Blumenthal: “The American people should be given more information.”
Liberation Times: Pentagon’s Silence on UFOs Threatens to Undermine Biden
Black Vault: Jackpot! 3k page & 23k electronic files in Obama Library
Black Vault: 16 years to review!
Black Vault: 5,196 classified electronic records in Obama Library

10. Chinese spy balloon, UFOs, and the 2001 Disclosure Project press conference Feb 13, 2023

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We've got a jam-packed episode for you today. In addition to our planned topic, we open by discussing the news that the US has shot down a Chinese spy balloon, as well as two other UFOs! After discussing why they're likely balloons, but that's still interesting for the UFO community, we get to the main topic:
The 2001 Disclosure Project press conference at the National Press Club in Washington, DC. At this conference, Dr Steven Greer (who has become a controversial figure in the UFO community) brought over 20 military, intelligence, and government witnesses together to testify to what they know about UFO incursions in our airspace, and the off-the-books crash retrieval programs hidden in from proper government accountability.
It's gonna be a wild ride!

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09. Betty & Barney Hill Jan 29, 2023

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This week we're talking about one of the foundational cases in the world of ufology: Betty and Barney Hill, who had an unusual encounter with a UFO while driving through the mountains late at night in 1961. They arrived home late, unable to account for 2-3 hours of time during their drive. They later recovered memories of being taken aboard the craft by aliens who conducted medical tests. It's a foundational story that introduced the world to some common elements of abduction stories including missing time and grey aliens. It's also got lots of room to be skeptical, and we're going to dig into it.

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08. The 2022 UAP Report is Here! #UFODaddy Jan 15, 2023

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It's finally here! We've been waiting for the 2022 annual UAP report since halloween. We'll talk about what the report says, ask some questions about what it means, and dig into the community reaction to it. Let's go!

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2022 Annual Report on Unidentified Aerial Phenomena
Reddit: "They took 8 pages to say: You asked us to keep track of UAPs. We did that…"
Reddit: "We have only the best people reporting plastic bags maneuvering at high rates of speed."
Post Disclosure World: "I'd argue the US government wants it to go away. But know it can't."
Stand For Better: "several people are testifying with AARO regarding historical UFO crash retrieval programs."
Chris Mellon isn't mad, just disappointed: "If the intent was to make the report as anodyne, unremarkable, and boring as possible, the authors did exceptionally well."

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