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Dainty DoD is Concerned UAP Hearings Have Sullied Its Reputation Aug 28, 2023

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Although Congress is still on break for another couple weeks, we’re back with a bit of news. Reps. Burchett and Luna are still pushing to get a SCIF to hear Grusch’s classified testimony, but claim the DOD is stonewalling them. Ross Coulthart says the Pentagon and Intel Community are applying pressure to Congress to drop the UAP thing, and suddenly Rep. Turner says there will be no more UAP hearings in the House Oversight Committee to protect the reputation of the DOD. Plus, White House national security spokesman John Kirby dodges an opportunity to deny Grusch’s claims, while Gov. Christie laughs off a UFO question at the Republican presidential debate.

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Rep Luna: “We’re working on getting Grusch clearance and access to a SCIF.”
Jeremy Corbell: “Grusch has been muzzled, but it won’t last.”
Rep Burchett: “We wrote to the ICIG for details.”
The Hill: “Lawmakers want subpoena power in UFO inquiries”
The Hill: “UFO whistleblower claims not denied by John Kirby”
Jen Psaki: “I wasn’t on the alien or UFO portfolio.”
Chris Mellon: “Sadly, no further UAP hearings in the HOC.”
Klaus: “Lack of HOC hearings not the disaster some make it out to be.”
Ross Coulthart: “The pushback from Pentagon and IC is intense.”
Rep Burchett staffer: “Rep Turner convinced Rep Comer UAP hearings would harm DOD reputation.”
Liberation Times: “Pressure Mounts On House Intelligence Chairman Following Dismissive And Baffling Approach To “Credible And Urgent” UFO Whistleblower Allegations”
The Debrief: “Questions About UAP Enter the 2024 Presidential Race”
Vivek Ramaswamy: “We can handle the truth.”

Grusch Health Records Leaked; Scientist claims ET body program Aug 14, 2023

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This week we’re covering two topics. Firstly, UAP whistleblower David Grusch’s past struggles with PTSD and suicide are published, sparking claims that the intelligence community is attempting to discredit Grusch and intimidate other witnesses. Then, we get weird, discussing a Reddit post where a molecular biologist claims to have worked in a program studying the genetics of alien bodies for a defense contractor. The details are fascinating, and there’s some indications that the scientist may be legit. Chuck and I are especially fascinated by his claims about the alien’s religion, belief in a “soul field.”

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References

The Debrief: The Struggles of a Whistleblower: Separating Fact from Fiction in the Latest UAP Revelations
Ken Klippenstein: “Multiple people told me to look at run ins with law enforcement.”
Ross Coulthart: “The tip could only have come from Grusch’s security files.”
Tim Burchett: “Someone needs to lose their job.”
George Knapp: “Attempted slime job on Grusch is a warning to other whistleblowers”
Lue Elizondo: “A veteran’s PTSD should NEVER be used against them.”
Reddit: “I worked as a molecular biologist in a program to study EBOs.”

UAP Hearing Aftermath: Kirkpatrick attacks, Pentagon evades, and Lockheed locks. Aug 08, 2023

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In this week’s exciting episode, we cover the aftermath of last week’s explosive UAP hearing, including Chris Mellon’s claims that AARO is withholding satellite imagery of UAP from Congress, the fallout and possible legal consequences of Dr. Kirkpatrick’s weird LinkedIn post, continued evasion from the Pentagon, and the major aerospace companies going into press lockdown following whistleblower allegations that they’re involved in the reverse engineering program.

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Chris Mellon: “AARO has not shared satellite images with Congress”
Chris Mellon: “The oversight committees were asking about satellite data back in 2017.”
Chris Mellon: “I've seen some VERY compelling evidence.”
Liberation Times: Department of Defense Confirms UFO Chief Did Write Scathing Letter Following Public Hearing
Rep Luna: “We had a witness testify he was in fear for his life and his former boss posts a letter attempting to discredit him? Seems odd.”
Nick Pope: “firing off a personal missive like this was unheard of.”
Rogue UAPTF: “Kirkpatrick’s statement was unethical and likely illegal.”
Tim McMillan: “Never seen a sr civil servant publicly admonish Congress”
Jeremy Corbell: “Interfering with Congress and whistleblowers is illegal”
Eric Weinstein: “warring factions in the US government.”
Sen. Gillibrand: “I asked for Dr Kirkpatrick to meet with Grusch.”
Ross Coulthart: “AARO is sending a shocking signal - no phone, no email”
Liberation Times: “Dozens of firsthand whistleblowers are frustrated with AARO’s handling of their claims.”
AOC: “I do think something is going on.”
Condorman: “sudden hard industry crackdown on all things UAP”
NewsNation: “Lockheed does not deny whistleblower claims.”
Ross Coulthart: “Why should DOD answer for Lockheed?”
Condorman: “Executives’ past bonuses can be ‘clawed back’ if they’ve withheld financial significant information.”
Attorney: “C-Suite will sing like canaries to avoid prison”

Alien Bodies!? Whistleblower Grusch and Navy Pilots in House UAP Hearing Jul 29, 2023

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The House Oversight Committee’s UAP Hearing just happened, and it was remarkable! Navy pilots David Fravor and Ryan Graves recounted their historic UFO encounters, and intelligence community whistleblower David Grusch reiterated his claims that the government has illegally concealed a UAP crash retrieval and reverse engineering program from Congress. Though these claims have been heard before, it was notable that they testified under oath to an engaged and bipartisan group of representatives. There was no joking, no attempts to undermine the claims being made, and no political maneuvering. The tone was remarkably serious, and the clear impression is that Congress isn’t letting this topic go. They’re on the ball, and already talking about next steps, including the formation of a UAP select committee with subpoena power!

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References

Video: Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Implications on National Security, Public Safety, and Government Transparency
Opening statements from David Grusch, Ryan Graves, and David Fravor
The Debrief: Whistleblowers Testify Under Oath Regarding "Craft of Non-Human Origin" and Military Encounters with UAP
The Debrief: Congressman Provides Account of Military UAP Image That He Says Matches No “Human Capability”
The Debrief: The Congressional Hearing on UAP: What We Learned From Yesterday’s Testimony
Reddit: Grusch’s rank and type
Sean Kirkpatrick: statement on “hearings and transparency”
Rep Moskowitz: HOC working to get classified Grusch info from ICIG
Rep Moskowitz: I support the creation of a select committee on UAP
Chris Mellon: “I’ve been told we have recovered non-earth technology.”
Sean Cahill: “People mischaracterize Grusch as a witness. He’s the investigating officer.”
Reddit: “Wasn’t analyzing secondhand info Grusch’s job?”
Kelly Chase: No legal mechanism to share classified info with public
Kelly Chase: The firsthand whistleblowers are coming
Kelly Chase: The popular debunker narrative is no longer tenable

Grusch, Fravor, and Graves to testify at House UAP Hearing Jul 25, 2023

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They’ve announced the witnesses for the House Oversight Committee’s UAP hearing, including whistleblower David Grusch as well as Navy pilots David Fravor and Ryan Graves. Several Congresspeople are hopping mad about being denied access to videos and whistleblowers during a visit to Elgin Air Force Base, and they’re making it clear that the upcoming hearing is a direct effort by Congress to confront ongoing Pentagon interference in their UFO investigation. It’s clear Congress knows more than they’re saying… Could it be the reason they’re pushing so hard is because they already have smoking gun evidence?

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Video: Rep. Burchett and colleagues hold press conference on upcoming Oversight Committee hearing on UAPs
Rep. Burchett: “I don’t believe they can keep their thumb in the dam much longer.”
Rep. Luna: “The Pentagon answers to the people and thus Congress”
Rep. Moskowitz: “Disclosure is coming!”
Exoacademian: “This is not your imagination.”
Dr Kirkpatrick: “We believe [the whistleblowers] have seen something.”
Gaël Lombart: “It’s not clear to me that Grusch has no firsthand info.”
Lue Elizondo: “You are wrong [that Grusch has no firsthand info].”
Lue Elizondo: “Chris and I are still very much in the fight.”
Chris Mellon: “Congress should ask the ICIG what it has uncovered.”
Lue Elizondo: “I know Grusch personally and he’s an American treasure.”
Ross Coulthart: “Here’s someone Congress should question under oath.”
Post Disclosure World: “For those disappointed… the media will cover it.”
Rep. Burchett: “We lost a witness because of Pentagon interference.”
Rep. Burchett: “Why is the intelligence community blocking my amendment?”
Yankeenate: “From a certain point of view, both Burchett & McGovern are correct.”
Rep. Burchett: “We were denied access to footage.”
Debrief: Pentagon Official Warns of Potential Threat From Extraterrestrial “Technical Supremacy” as UAP Hearing Approaches
Mick West: “Witnesses have told their story before. What will we get from this hearing?”
Garry Nolan: “Congress is doing this scientifically. This is the validation process.”
Oversight Committee: “All witnesses are sworn in prior to delivering testimony.”
NASA: “NASA was not requested to participate in the UAP hearing.”
Mid Bay News: Members of Congress Lambast Eglin General Over UFO Information
Rep. Luna: “The level of backtracking from the Pentagon is unreal.”
Matt Gaetz: “I have seen evidence of craft that I am not familiar with.”
Liberation Times: As UFO Momentum Accelerates, Something Has To Give

22. The UAP Disclosure Act of 2023 Jul 16, 2023

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Huge news this week as Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer introduces the UAP Disclosure Act of 2023! This is a bipartisan NDAA amendment that would introduce a JFK-style UAP record review board who would review all government records with the intent to release all UAP items within 25 years. Huge! We talk about the implications of this, why it matters, and what the limitations might be. We also discuss the upcoming House UAP hearing, which has been scheduled for July 26, and the increasing willingness of Congress to take the topic seriously. Buckle up!

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Politico: House GOP plans to hold long-teased UFO hearing
Reps Comer & Luna: “House UFO hearing date is July 26th.”
Rep. Comer: ‘Lots of interest’ in possible UFO hearing
Rep. Luna: “...it's very likely that there's other life forms out there...”
Rep. Burchett: “We have the Pentagon pushing against us.”
Rep. Gallagher: “Aliens, just call them aliens, okay?”
Ross Coulthart: "A revelation from congress which makes the evidence incontrovertible…"
Admiral Wilson: “I wonder why Congress hasn’t said we’d like to hear from Admiral Wilson”
Marco Rubio: “Either this is the biggest story in human history or we have people who are crazy.”
The Debrief: The ‘UAP Disclosure Act of 2023’: What We Know About Chuck Schumer and the Senate’s New Push for UAP Transparency
Press Release: Schumer, Rounds Introduce New Legislation To Declassify Government Records Related To Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena & UFOs – Modeled After JFK Assassination Records Collection Act – As An Amendment To NDAA
Sen. Schumer: “I’m introducing new legislation to declassify UFO records.”
Sen. Schumer: “Honored to carry on the legacy of Harry Reid…”
Ross Coulthart: “UAP amendments enjoy bipartisan support.”
Klaus: “Records were improperly classified as ‘foreign nuclear info.”
Ross Coulthart: “These UAP laws are extraordinary.”
Joe Khalil: “Schumer likely highest ranking member of Congress to back something like this.”
New York Times: Bipartisan Measure Aims to Force Release of U.F.O. Records
Garry Nolan: “NYT article doesn’t mention Grusch.”
Chris Mellon: “Little public benefit as recent UAP data is classified.”
Marik: “Specificity of intel must have been extraordinary”
Matt Pines: “Drafted with bipartisan support in complete secrecy”
Liberation Times: Congress Initiates Plan To Reveal Recovered ‘Technologies Of Unknown Origin And Biological Evidence Of Non-Human Intelligence’

21. “A military complex accountable to no one,” Rubio & Coulthart on UAP Whistleblower Grusch Jul 09, 2023

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Chuck is out sick, but we’ve got a special cohost for today: Scott’s wife, Annie! We’re going to be discussing the continuing news of impending UAP hearings in both the House and the Senate, possibly this month! We have additional comments from Marco Rubios’ NewsNation interview, discussing whistleblower concerns that speaking out is punishable by death, and the specter of an unaccountable UAP complex. And journalist Ross Coulthart appeared on all the podcasts, and left some juicy bits of information for us, including the possibility that one of the recovered craft was too large to move, and they just built a building around it! Plus, whistleblowers under threat to sign new NDAs and some legal considerations around private contractors working with government-provided UFO material.

References

Sen staffer: SAS UAP hearing in July
Rep. Luna: Grusch to testify publicly at HOC hearing in July
Sen. Heinrich: Skeptical of Grusch, but supports UAP hearings
Ross Coulthart: Congressional hearings may bump to September
Rep. Comer: Some UAP witnesses failed background checks
Ross Coulthart: Failed background check witnesses were from Greer
Marco Rubio: Full NewsNation interview
Marco Rubio: Corrected transcript of NewsNation interview
Daily Mail: Senator Marco Rubio worries craft retrieval programs are being run by 'internal military complex' that is 'accountable to no one'
Daily Mail: Investigative journalist who broke Pentagon UFO story reveals MORE whistleblowers will come forward but they're scared of losing their jobs, safety and their security clearance
Ross Coulthart: Secret UAP hearings for two years
Ross Coulthart: Whistleblowers have been threatened to sign new NDAs
Ross Coulthart: At least one aerospace co trying to divest itself of a craft
Ross Coulthart: Some of these craft are so big they built a building over it
Ross Coulthart: Jake Sullivan attended a Senate UFO meeting
Houston Lawyer: We’re filing dozens of Rico lawsuits against contractors

20. Congress is taking UAP whistleblower Grusch’s claims seriously Jun 29, 2023

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Chuck is still on vacation, but the UFO news just keeps coming hot and heavy, so Scott’s back with another solo episode to keep you up-to-date. We’ve got several stories this week, including an alleged secret Canadian UAP reverse engineering program and continued denials from the Pentagon. But the biggest story is that Congress is taking the claims of whistleblower David Grusch very seriously. We’ve got quotes from multiple Congresspeople as well as new UAP provisions written into the upcoming Intelligence Community Authorization Act that will remove funding from UAP programs that haven’t reported to Congress and a ticking clock for defense contractors to turn over any UFO material or information they got from the government, or face penalties!

References:

The New York Times: Ezra Klein Interviews Leslie Kean (Transcript)
Liberation Times: Bombshell Letter Reveals Canadian Politician's Concerns Of Covert UFO Programs Involving Canada And Five Eyes Alliance
MP Larry Maguire’s letter claiming Canada’s DARPA has UAP material
Daniel Otis: Canadian defense minister denies allegations of crash recovery
Ross Coulthart: Canadian response is not a broad government denial
NewsNation: US has ‘downplayed’ the number of UFO sightings: Senator Hawley
Matt Laslo: Rubio says UAP whistleblower first credibly vetted, referred to Congress
Matt Laslo: Intel Chair Warner says gov’t has hidden programs from Congress in past
Matt Laslo: Gillibrand scheduling hearings with UAP whistleblower David Grusch
Liberation Times: Pentagon Unable To Confirm Or Deny Discovery Of Materials Originating From Non-Human Intelligences Or Unknown Origin Within Secretive Programs
Douglas Dean Johnson: Senate Intelligence bill gives holders of "non-earth origin or exotic UAP material" six months to make it available to AARO
Liberation Times: Senate Intelligence Committee Proposes Amnesty to Defense Contractors for Disclosure of 'Non-Earth Origin or Exotic Materials' in Approved UFO Language
The Hill: Congress doubles down on explosive claims of illegal UFO retrieval programs
NewsNation: Rubio: Recent UFO whistleblower isn’t the only one
NY Mag: Marco Rubio Says He’s Heard Shocking ‘Firsthand’ Accounts of UFOs
Matt Laslo: Rep. Burchett hopes to hold public UAP hearing in July
Chris Mellon on Senate uncovering truth of off-world tech.
Chris Mellon on Congress pursuing evidence of off-world tech.
Gillibrand Secures Full Funding For UAP Office In Senate Defense Bill Markup
Barnett Parker: Lockheed refers UAP question to AARO
Ross Coulthart: Why should AARO have to answer for Lockheed?

19. David Grusch Week 2: The Vatican, UFO “agreements,” and coverups. Jun 18, 2023

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Scott's coming at you solo with the latest updates on UFO Whistleblower David Grusch's story. This week we're covering his video interview with Ross Coulthart, where among other revelations he shared that the Vatican helped the US recover a crashed UFO from Italy in 1945, and that the US government possibly has "agreements" with non-human intelligences. Not to mention running a decades-long coverup and disinformation operation against US citizens. We also cover the latest Congressional reactions to Grusch's story, as well as Michael Shellenberger's story with additional sources confirming Grusch's claims.

References

NewsNation: We are not alone: The UFO whistleblower speaks
Reddit: Grusch Interview: The Big Stuff Summary
Daily Mail: Pentagon whistleblower says the Vatican is aware of the existence of non-human intelligences and helped the US retrieve a downed UFO from Italian dictator Mussolini at the end of WW2
Liberation Times: Unclassified Version Of David Grusch’s UFO-Related Reprisal Complaint Released
Daily Wire: Congressman Heading Up UFO Hearing After Shocking Whistleblower Allegations: ‘We’re Serious About This Issue’
Wired: UFO Whistleblower, Meet a Conspiracy-Loving Congress
Washington Examiner: What should we make of UFO whistleblower David Grusch?
Michael Shellenberger: US Has 12 Or More Alien Spacecraft, Say Military And Intelligence Contractors

18. “Urgent and Credible” - Whistleblower David Grusch Jun 11, 2023

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It's happening! Whistleblower David Grusch, a USAF veteran and senior intelligence officer has provided information to Congress and the Intelligence Community Inspector General about illegal covert programs that possess retrieved non-human craft. This is a wild story, and we're going to talk about what he's claiming, why it's credible, how he differs from previous stories like Bob Lazar, and how the community is reacting. There's more to come, too, with additional interviews dropping shortly. If this is what it looks like, then this could be the start of Disclosure with a capital D!

References:

The Debrief: Intelligence Officials Say U.S. Has Retrieved Craft of Non-Human Origin
The Hill: Claims that UFO information was inappropriately withheld from Congress deemed ‘credible,’ ‘urgent’
The Guardian: House of Representatives to hold hearing on whistleblower’s UFO claims
Tim Burchett: “We are not alone, and we’ll get some answers.”
Vanity Fair: Why The New York Times, The Washington Post, and Politico Didn’t Publish a Seemingly Bombshell Report About UFOs
Liberation Times: Former Chief Scientist for Air Force Space Command Vouches For UFO Whistleblower's Integrity
Ross Coulthart: “Grusch has given the location of where craft are stored.”
Ross Coulthart on Grusch’s lack of evidence
Kelly Chase on Grusch clearing DOPSR
Reddit: Summary of David Grusch story
Reddit: This is a major shift in the narrative

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