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    How Tanners Identified Hofmann Forgery (Sandra Tanner) Oct 18, 2025
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    This is a throwback episode from 2018. Sandra & Jerald Tanner were the first to identify a Hofmann forgery. They were the first to claim the Salamander Letter was a forgery but they didn't know it was a Hofmann forgery. Even though they didn't suspect Mark Hofmann was the forger, they were eventually proved correct. Sandra tells how her husband Jerald came to that conclusion, his later illness & death from dementia, and whether she thinks some books in the Bible could be classified as forgeries. Plus at the end of the video, I'll give a preview of my next interview with Sandra! Check out our conversation... https://youtu.be/SK_6orYOYro Don’t miss our other conversations with Sandra: https://gospeltangents.com/people/sandra-tanner Copyright © 2025 Gospel Tangents All Rights Reserved "Man Bites Dog" Story: How Anti-Mormon Critics Jerald & Sandra Tanner Were the First to Expose Mark Hofmann Forgery Sandra Tanner is a long-time critic and historian of Mormonism. She details her interactions with the notorious document forger and murderer, Mark Hofmann. The interviews reveal a profound paradox—what Sandra Tanner called the "man bite dog story"—where the very critics who might have benefited from anti-LDS documents were the ones who first proved them to be frauds. Here is a breakdown of the shocking discoveries, clever manipulations, and institutional controversies surrounding Hofmann, as shared by Sandra Tanner: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Shrewd Forger’s Credibility Gambit Mark Hofmann first approached Sandra Tanner and her husband, Jerald, in 1978 or 1979 after having read their book, Mormonism Shadow or Reality. At this time, Hofmann was an average-looking young man who did not stand out, which actually aided him in his forgery business. Hofmann’s initial goal was to establish credibility for his future fakes. He visited the Tanners and handed Sandra a photocopy of a one-sheet document—a fraudulent Second Anointing Ceremony. This ritual is considered higher than celestial marriage and promises eternal life (short of murder) to select individuals. Hofmann spun a detailed, manipulative story, claiming he found the document (purporting to be from the 1912 Salt Lake Temple period) while cleaning out his deceased grandfather's attic. He insisted he couldn't share his name because his family was prominent, thus giving the document an air of mystery and protected provenance. Sandra Tanner realized that Hofmann was attempting to raise the document’s value by having her pass it around, creating a "trail of interest". However, because the document lacked provenance, Sandra did not publish it, though she did give copies out to people who asked, cautioning them that she could not vouch for it. This established Hofmann’s pattern: planting evidence or information about documents, often having others "find" them (like Jeff Simmonds finding the Anthon transcript pasted in a Bible) to lend them credibility. Jerald Tanner’s Analysis: Salamander Letter Is Too "Pat" When the Salamander Letter (a document critical of Joseph Smith, linking him to magic and the coming forth of the Book of Mormon in a magic setting) was rumored and surfaced, Jerald Tanner was skeptical. Jerald insisted on seeing the whole typescript of the letter to properly evaluate it. Jerald’s forensic methodology was based on a prior experience: years earlier, he had successfully argued that a document attributed to Oliver Cowdery was a forgery because it contained phrases lifted directly from Cowdery’s known letters, demonstrating a contrived writing style. Applying this content analysis to the Salamander Letter, Jerald became convinced it was a fraud. He noted that the wording contained phrases lifted from earlier critical texts, specifically Ed Howe’s Mormonism Unveiled and the Joseph Knight letters. Jerald argued that the similarities in phrasing were "too much" and "too pat". Sandra, playing "devil's advocate," suggested that the repetitive phrasing could simply be Martin Harris’s standard way of telling his story. But Jerald was "absolutely convinced" that the Salamander Letter was "a product of someone studying Martin Harris". Jerald published a pamphlet challenging the letter’s wording, risking defamation lawsuits. He was willing to risk everything because he knew the document was forged. This happened despite the fact that Church historians, including Dean Jessee, had accepted the document as authentic after Hofmann supplied them with fake Martin Harris handwriting samples to verify the signature. Hofmann’s success in fooling the Church historians was compounded by two factors: Preparation: Hofmann had arranged for other innocuous documents to establish a verified Martin Harris handwriting sample for comparison. Predisposition: The Church historians were "predisposed to believe such a document would be authentic" because they already knew about Joseph Smith's early history involving money digging and magic circles. Attempted Bribery and the Plea Bargain Controversy After Jerald published his concerns, Hofmann appeared at the Tanners’ store, accusing them of trying to hurt his business and stop him from acquiring crucial historical documents. Hofmann tried to halt Jerald’s criticism by appealing to Sandra’s interest in Brigham Young’s commingled funds. Hofmann claimed he was in touch with a descendant of Thomas Bullock (Brigham Young’s secretary) who possessed the "Bullock collection," which supposedly detailed Young’s misuse of Church money. Hofmann argued that if the Tanners continued challenging his work, the Bullock family would refuse to do business with him, and Sandra would "be the one that stops this acquiring of these important collection of Thomas Bullock". Jerald, upon hearing the story, was completely cynical and dismissed it as a lie: "I want to sell you a bridge in Brooklyn," he responded. Regarding the outcome of the Hofmann case, Sandra was disappointed that the prosecutors negotiated a plea bargain instead of taking the case to a full trial. She believes the prosecuting attorney, being a "good Mormon," would have been reluctant to subpoena General Authorities (like Gordon B. Hinckley, who had personally done business with Hofmann) and reveal confidential Church finances in court—issues that would have arisen if they attempted to prove the financial motive behind the murder. Ultimately, the prosecution secured a settlement where Hofmann confessed to everything in exchange for a 15 years to life sentence (which became a life sentence when he attempted to hire a hitman to kill the parole board). Don’t miss our other conversations with Sandra: https://gospeltangents.com/people/sandra-tanner Copyright © 2025 Gospel Tangents All Rights Reserved You can get a Kindle or paperback transcript here: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1718038240 If you're interested in winning a biography of Sandra and Jerald, I'm giving away an autographed copy. Sign up at https://gospeltangents.com/contest and you could win!


    Pregnant Possibilities: Joseph Smith’s Polygamy Oct 15, 2025
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    A presentation titled Pregnant Possibilities was given by Mark Tensmeyer, Joseph Stanford, Amanda Hendrix-Komoto, John Kidd, & myself (Rick Bennett.) This was similar to a presentation at Sunstone & John Whitmer Historical Association in August, September, & October 2025. We tackled the question on how many children Joseph Smith should have had with his plural wives. (It is a lot less than you think!) Mark gave a history, Joseph outlined the science behind calculating pregnancy, Rick did the calculations on expected number of children & probability Joseph Smith had no children from his plural wives. John ran 1,000,000 simulations of the scenario to randomize women's cycles and coitus, and Amanda discussed birth control & abortion in the 19th century. It's a fascinating presentation that we hope to publish soon. Check out our presentation from August & October. (You may want to view on Youtube to see the slides used in the presentations.) https://youtu.be/gL0P5F5FZcc Don’t miss our other conversations about Joseph Smith's polygamy: https://gospeltangents.com/lds_theology/polygamy/ Copyright © 2025 Gospel Tangents All Rights Reserved Pregnant Possibilities The polygamous unions of Joseph Smith in Nauvoo present historians with a persistent and colorful mystery: the apparent lack of known children fathered by Smith with any of his wives other than Emma. Clearly, Joseph Smith was fertile, having fathered nine children with Emma. This question regarding the lack of progeny was the central focus of the 2025 Sunstone Symposium session, "Pregnant Possibilities: Sexuality and Early Mormon Polygamy," which involved a multidisciplinary approach combining historical research, statistical modeling, and reproductive science. The presentation drew on the expertise of historian Mark Tensmeyer, JD (focusing on historical claims and Joseph Smith's movements), Dr. Amanda Hendrix-Komoto (discussing abortion and birth control history), Dr. Joseph Stanford (an MD specializing in fertility and the mechanics of pregnancy), Rick Bennett (a biostatistician who hosted the session and developed the mathematical models), and Dr John Kidd (who ran 1,000,000 simulations.) Does Marriage Equal Sex? The puzzle of the missing children was vividly encapsulated by Joseph Smith III, who found it "incomprehensible" that his "father should have had such a crew of lusty young women as wives, and not one of them had a baby by him. Not one, not a single baby". The presentation emphasized that while there are no identified or verified children from these plural unions, historians cannot definitively state that there were no children. Factors such as high infant mortality, stillbirth, or children who grew up under different names could account for unknown progeny. Mark Tensmeyer examined the foundational question: Does the fact that Joseph Smith married these women mean that he was sexually active with them?. While there is direct testimony of consummation for some wives (such as Emily Partridge and Melissa Lott), for the majority, evidence is absent or scarce. Arguments supporting consummation included the 19th-century societal norm where a marriage was often not considered complete if unconsummated. Conversely, arguments suggesting limited or no consummation centered on: Smith’s lack of cohabitation with many plural wives. Other motives for marriage, such as dynastic connections or integrating plural marriage into the community. The fact that Smith and his immediate circle were not actively trying to conceive children with plural wives, contrasting with Brigham Young’s later efforts to "raise up seed to Joseph". The gradual rollout of polygamy, which was necessarily shrouded in secrecy and denial, particularly due to Emma Smith's disapproval and limited knowledge of the full extent of the practice. To address the historical ambiguity, the researchers focused on 33 "consensus wives"—those agreed upon by prominent historians—and developed various models based on different assumptions regarding sexual frequency. Modeling the Probability of Conception The statistical analysis required defining key reproductive terms. Fecundity refers to the biological capacity to conceive, while fecundability is the daily probability of pregnancy in a given menstrual cycle. Dr. Stanford explained that calculating the probability of conception is complex, as the probability is highest in the couple of days prior to ovulation. The models used data from historical natural family planning users to estimate the day-specific probabilities of pregnancy, applying these estimates across the various historical interpretations of Joseph Smith’s sexual activity. Biostatistician Rick Bennett developed four main models based on the estimated frequency of intercourse, accounting for Joseph Smith’s busy schedule, travel, and ongoing sexual relationship with Emma1: Model Name Core Assumption Key Groups Excluded Expected Pregnancies (Approx.) Probability of Zero Children (Approx.) Statistical Conclusion Restricted Volume Highly restricted interpretation; most marriages unconsummated. Teen brides, polyandrous wives, older/pregnant wives. 0.713 41% Not unusual, about 50-50 Low Volume Assumes all non-special classes (e.g., non-polyandrous, non-teen) were consummated, but with limited frequency. Younger wives (14 and under), wives with legal husbands, older/pregnant wives. 1.4714 22% Not unusual (Compared to rolling doubles in Monopoly) Medium/ Consensus Volume Assumes all consensus wives were consummated, often only 1-2 times near the ceremony, with exceptions for women like Emily Partridge. Older/pregnant wives. 2.3614 9% Not unusual (Still possible by chance) High Volume Maximizes possible sexual encounters with all consensus and some disputed wives (reflecting a more critical view). None (except likely infertile/pregnant) 7.7514 0.03% Unusual (Unlikely to happen by chance) The conclusions were stark: the Restricted, Low, and Consensus models show that the probability of zero pregnancies is not unusual. The High-Volume model suggests that if intercourse occurred that frequently, zero children would be "very unlikely to happen by chance," necessitating an explanation through contraception or abortion. A separate, high-volume model focusing on Fanny Alger alone (due to the length and nature of the relationship) suggested an expected 3.25 children, with a probability of zero children at about 0.03%, meaning it would be unlikely that Fanny should not have had a child in that model. 19th-Century Reproductive Agency and Intervention Historian Amanda Hendrix-Komoto provided context on 19th-century sexuality, noting that non-academic conversations often overlook the long history of birth control and abortion. She highlighted that before the 20th century, people defined pregnancy differently: The definitive moment of pregnancy was often considered quickening (when the woman first feels the baby move), which generally happens around 19–20 weeks. Many people believed the soul enters the fetus at quickening. Before quickening, interventions were often referred to as "restoring the menses" or "regulating the menses" rather than ending a pregnancy. Women commonly used herbal teas, vaginal douches, and suppositories to reduce the number of children. While these methods were not perfect, they were somewhat effective. There is limited direct evidence of early Mormon practices due to the secrecy surrounding polygamy. However, Heber C. Kimball, in an 1857 speech, acknowledged that he knew many women who used doctors to "kill the children," stating that this practice was "just as common as it is for wheat to grow". Furthermore, Brigham Young explicitly linked the spirit entering the body to the mother "feels life come into her infant" (quickening). These findings suggest that early Mormon women would have encountered ideas about abortion and birth control before converting to the Church. Importantly, women possessed agency; they did not need external figures like Dr. J.C. Bennett to control their reproduction, as midwives and other doctors knew how to induce abortions. In summary, the statistical data supports the conclusion that the lack of identified children is statistically expected if Joseph Smith's sexual engagement with his plural wives was limited. However, if relations were more frequent, the historical context confirms that 19th-century women had the knowledge and means to utilize contraception or early abortifacients to prevent births. Don't miss our discussion of Dr Ugo Perego's DNA test results on possible children of Joseph Smith. What are your thoughts about the presentation? Don’t miss our other conversations about Joseph Smith's polygamy: https://gospeltangents.com/lds_theology/polygamy/ Copyright © 2025 Gospel Tangents All Rights Reserved


    Don’t Ask Peggy Fletcher Stack’s Opinion! (4 of 4) Oct 12, 2025
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    Today is Peggy Fletcher Stack's 40th wedding anniversary. A few months ago, I asked Peggy Fletcher Stack's opinions. Central to Peggy's thirty-plus-year career is her unwavering commitment to journalistic ethics and objectivity. Peggy has been a religion reporter at the Salt Lake Tribune for decades, and she tells why she doesn't like to share her opinions. https://youtu.be/wJIVGj_2ywQ Don’t miss our other conversations with Peggy: https://gospeltangents.com/people/peggy-fletcher-stack/ Copyright © 2025 Gospel Tangents All Rights Reserved Peggy Fletcher Stack's Opinion She is asked daily about her personal faith but maintains it is "not for public disclosure," stating she is a "person of faith" who respects others but keeps her own private. She firmly believes a credible journalist cannot be an opinion writer. She actively avoids expressing personal opinions on politics or religion in her reporting or on social media. While her choice of stories and sources reveals focus, she strives for neutrality in her own voice. This commitment means she receives criticism from all sides, even noting she gets "more hate mail than our sports reporters." She highlights the challenge that some readers and even sources don't grasp why journalists don't simply adopt a specific viewpoint or give the LDS Church the "last word." She explains her approach to sourcing often prioritizes current "stakeholders" within a faith community for present-day issues, while respecting former members' perspectives on their personal journeys but finding them less ideal sources for current church affairs. Dramatic Transformation in Journalism The conversation also underscores the dramatic transformation in journalism brought by the internet. Contrasting with her early freelance days in Kenya where in-person interviews and library research were essential, online resources now make research significantly easier. However, this ease has contributed to journalism becoming a 24/7 job, with constant demands and potentially less emphasis on crucial in-person reporting. Peggy cautions that younger reporters can sometimes mistake online "buzz" for broad public concern, stressing the importance of understanding what "average believers in the pew" are discussing. Peggy also touched on the dramatic transformation in journalism due to the internet, contrasting her early freelance days in Kenya with the 24/7 nature of reporting today. While online resources make research easier, the constant demand and decreased emphasis on in-person reporting present new challenges. Despite these challenges and the constant criticism, Peggy finds her job exciting, enjoying the process of analyzing and connecting the dots. She has no immediate plans to retire, suggesting the 2034 Olympics as a potential bookend for her career since her first story coincided with Salt Lake's losing the 1998 Olympic bid to Japan. Why Her Faith is Off-Limits Stepping back into the conversation with Peggy Fletcher Stack of the Salt Lake Tribune, the discussion moved beyond her career origins to highlight the core principle for Peggy is journalistic ethics and objectivity. She firmly believes a credible journalist cannot be an opinion writer. She gets asked daily about her own faith but maintains it's not for public disclosure, as her role is to report fairly on all faiths. She consciously avoids expressing her personal opinions on politics or religion in her reporting or on social media. While her choice of stories and sources reveals focus, she strives for neutrality in her own voice. She illustrated the challenge of this by describing how people, including some within the LDS Churc don't always understand why journalists don't simply adopt a specific viewpoint or give one source the "last word." This commitment to reporting on conflict, even when it's sensitive, means she receives criticism from all sides, sometimes even more hate mail than sports reporters. Do you agree with why Peggy Fletcher Stack's opinion is not for public consumption. Do you think there is too much opinion by reporters? Do reporters and columnists confuse the line between journalism and opinion? Don’t miss our other conversations with Peggy: https://gospeltangents.com/people/peggy-fletcher-stack/ Copyright © 2025 Gospel Tangents All Rights Reserved


    Why Kirtland Temple Sale Only Buys 5 Years of Financial Stability (Stassi Cramm 3 of 4) Oct 06, 2025
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    In a recent candid conversation, Stassi Cramm, the first female prophet of the Community of Christ, discussed the Kirtland Temple sale & highly publicized sale of historic sites. She offered insights into the church's current financial & addressed the complexities of continuing to lead a worldwide, diverse body on issues of inclusion and mission. President Cramm, who was ordained in June 2025 and previously served nine years in the First Presidency, emphasized that her approach centers on faithful agility and discerning God's ongoing call for the church. https://youtu.be/blYLTxtHqVk Don’t miss our other conversations with Stassi: https://gospeltangents.com/people/stassi-cramm/ Copyright © 2025 Gospel Tangents All Rights Reserved Navigating Finances and Faith: An Update from Community of Christ President Stassi Cramm In a recent candid conversation, Stassi Cramm, the first female prophet of the Community of Christ, offered insights into the church's current financial reality following the highly publicized sale of historic sites, including the Kirtland Temple, and addressed the complexities of continuing to lead a worldwide, diverse body on issues of inclusion and mission. President Cramm, who was ordained in June 2025 and previously served nine years in the First Presidency, emphasized that her approach centers on faithful agility and discerning God's ongoing call for the church. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The $200 Million Kirtland Temple Sale Question: Financial Stewardship The sale of the Kirtland Temple and associated properties to the LDS Church generated almost $200 million. This revenue was immediately invested into the church's endowments, which are intended to provide some foundational income for the annual budget. However, Cramm confirmed a widespread projection that this sale alone did not generate enough to fully endow the operations of the church into perpetuity. The current financial model still relies significantly on Worldwide Mission Tithes (tithing) as an essential element of discipleship. Based on current trends, if the number of financial supporters continues to slowly decline, the Community of Christ will face additional financial questions around the year 2030. Cramm noted that the church's leaders, including the Council of 12 and the Presiding Bishopric, are focused on defining what the church "needs to be" in the future. The goal is not merely to keep the lights on, but to do so while faithfully being who God needs them to be in the world. This strategy involves: Fostering new communities of disciples committed to the church's mission. Engaging in social ministries and justice activities. Empowering new forms of leadership from younger generations. Innovating stewardship, including looking at different investment strategies and business ventures aligned with the church’s mission. President Cramm concluded that success must be measured in faithfulness terms, rather than "worldly terms" like turning a profit or hitting a specific number of members in the pews. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Inclusion, Ordination, and the Gay Apostle Question The conversation also turned to the church's approach to LGBTQ+ inclusion, a topic that remains widely discussed both in the U.S. and within the global church. Community of Christ policy allows the World Conference to establish broad principles, while national or field conferences can weigh in on particulars based on local needs and discernment. This approach acknowledges that in some parts of the world, discussing inclusion topics can be life-threatening or illegal. When asked whether an openly gay apostle might be called under her administration, President Cramm emphasized a key distinction regarding ordination policy: Sexual Orientation is Not the Barrier: Cramm clarified that sexual orientation has never been a criteria for whether or not someone can be ordained in Community of Christ. Gay individuals were being ordained even before 2013. Relationship Status Was the Issue: The barrier prior to 2013 was the relationship part. If a gay person was ordained and wanted to live with a partner in a committed relationship, policies related to cohabitation and lack of legal/covenant marriage mechanism meant they could not remain ordained. The 2013 changes in the U.S. addressed this injustice by allowing ordination for those in same-gender relationships. Ultimately, when considering priesthood calls, including that of an apostle, the focus should not be on sexual orientation, but on "who is God calling". However, political considerations in conservative areas do play a role in making assignments for all priesthood members, ensuring that their ministry will be well-received in that area. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Doctrine of Disagreement The ability to navigate complex and divisive issues is central to Community of Christ culture. Even following the acceptance of women's priesthood in 1984, which caused some to walk out of conference, the church has learned to live in a space of faithful disagreement. Cramm noted that she had received opposing votes against her call in June 2025 from individuals who still do not support women in the priesthood but remain committed to other aspects of the church's mission. The principles of faithful disagreement acknowledge that members are all trying to discern God's will, but due to human imperfections, they do not always reach the same conclusion. This means: People who disagree are not judged as unfaithful or immediately ostracized. Members must cultivate Christlike love, which is a choice that comes from a deep understanding of God’s love for everyone, allowing them to respect an opposing opinion even if they do not share it. Cramm observed that the divisive nature of decisions like the 1984 priesthood revelation and the recent sale of the Kirtland Temple underscore the need for the church to achieve a high degree of consensus on critical matters, often moving beyond a simple majority toward 80% agreement or more before adopting new policies that aim to be transformative. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Role of Scripture Finally, President Cramm addressed the recurring accusation that the Community of Christ is "moving away from the Book of Mormon". She emphatically denied this characterization, noting that the church's belief statement upholds the Book of Mormon and the Doctrine and Covenants as two additional books of scripture supporting the testimony of the Bible. If the church were trying to move away from it, they would need to rewrite that statement. Cramm explained that the perception of the Book of Mormon playing a smaller role stems from the church being non-creedal; they do not require members to use specific scriptures when preaching or teaching. Furthermore, Community of Christ has not taken an absolute stance on the historicity of the Book of Mormon, which sometimes causes concern among those who view it as a test of faith. Cramm acknowledged a practical shortcoming: the church's version of the Book of Mormon is not available in French and Spanish. Given that French may be the dominant language spoken in Community of Christ on a given Sunday morning globally, this unavailability means large segments of the church do not have easy access to it. Despite this, leadership currently has no plans to de-canonize the Book of Mormon. Don't miss our other conversations with Stassi: https://gospeltangents.com/people/stassi-cramm/ Copyright © 2025 Gospel Tangents All Rights Reserved


    1088: Why We Sold the Kirtland Temple: A Prophet’s Perspective (Stassi Cramm 2 of 4) Oct 03, 2025
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    We’re discussing 2 controversial topics with Stassi Cramm, President of the Community of Christ. We’ll focus on the controversial sale of Kirtland Temple, as well as the schism that followed the 1984 revelation on women's ordination. Which was more controversial? Check out our conversation... Don't miss our other conversations with Stassi: https://gospeltangents.com/people/stassi-cramm/ https://youtu.be/CIv5kq-x648 Copyright © 2025 Gospel Tangents All Rights Reserved 1984 Schism & Its Aftermath The 1984 revelation that allowed women to hold the priesthood led to an immediate schism within the church, which was then known as the RLDS Church. President Cramm, who was not present at the 1984 conference, describes the period as rancorous with hard feelings. Following the decision, there were significant conflicts, including debates over property ownership and padlocks being put on church doors as whole congregations pulled away from the main body of the church. The opposition was so strong that a resolution to rescind the 1984 revelation was brought forward at the 1986 conference, though it did not pass. President Cramm contrasts this divisive experience with how the church handled the more recent, and also potentially divisive, issue of same-sex marriage in the early 2010s. Learning from the past, Church leadership approached the topic more slowly, with years of study and conversation. They developed "the principles of faithful disagreement," which allow members to hold differing opinions on church decisions without being judged as unfaithful. While the church still lost members after implementing new policies on same-gender marriage in 2013, the schism was not as severe as in 1984. Today, there are still members who do not believe women should be ordained, and some voiced their opposition to President Cramm's call at the most recent conference, which she notes is acceptable within the church's framework. Sale of Kirtland Temple A significant portion of the conversation addresses the recent sale of Kirtland Temple and other historic sites to The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. This decision was very difficult and emotional, comparable in some ways to the 1984 revelation. Key points regarding the sale: Lack of Conference Vote: The decision for the sale of Kirtland Temple was made by church leadership without a vote or formal input from the World Conference delegates. This was a major point of contention for members who felt the process contradicted the principle of common consent. A resolution was brought to the most recent conference demanding that future property sales receive conference approval, but it was ruled out of order. Rationale for Bypassing Conference: President Cramm explained that the resolution was ruled out of order because it conflicted with the scriptural and bylaw authority granted to the First Presidency and the Presiding Bishopric to act in the church's best overall interest. She also stated that giving 2,800 delegates enough information to make an informed recommendation was not feasible, and that leadership needed to be trusted to do their difficult job. Negotiation Secrecy: The negotiations on sale of Kirtland Temple were conducted under a non-disclosure agreement (NDA), which President Cramm described as a mutual decision to manage how information was released. A public debate or vote would have weakened the church's negotiating position, especially since it was determined that the LDS Church was the only entity capable of providing the necessary funds while ensuring the site's continued maintenance and accessibility. Financial Necessity: The sale was driven by a looming financial shortfall that threatened the church's ability to function globally. Leadership had a legal and moral obligation to keep the church operating and to ensure they could be good stewards of their properties. When it became clear they could no longer afford to properly maintain the temple, selling it was seen as the best option to preserve it. Response to "Revelation" Argument: When asked about the argument that the temple was given by revelation and should only be sold by revelation, President Cramm stated that she had not encountered that specific argument before and could not directly respond to it. Common Consent and Church Governance The discussion also highlighted the Community of Christ's legislative-style World Conference, which differs significantly from the LDS Church's General Conference. Members can speak directly to church leadership from podiums on the conference floor, expressing support or opposition for resolutions. President Cramm finds this process respectful, though it can be emotionally charged and uncomfortable as the presider, who feels the weight of the entire room's emotions. The process is governed by Robert's Rules of Order, which includes alternating between speakers for and against a motion. Copyright © 2025 Gospel Tangents All Rights Reserved


    1st Female Prophet (Stassi Cramm 1 of 4) Sep 30, 2025
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    Stassi Cramm is the 1st female Prophet-President of the Community of Christ. I asked her to reflect back on the 1984 revelation that granted priesthood to women and her time as a lifelong member of Community of Christ. Was it hard? Check out our conversation... https://youtu.be/OjtLJ-FG988 Don't miss our other conversations with Stassi: https://gospeltangents.com/people/stassi-cramm/ Copyright © 2025 Gospel Tangents All Rights Reserved 0:00 Meet Stassi Cramm 4:32 Women Get Priesthood in 1984 Revelation 17:28 Diverse Agreement 1st Female Prophet Stassi Cramm was ordained 1st female prophet of Community of Christ earlier this year in June 2025. Look Back at 1984 Revelation on Women's Ordination Stassi Cramm was a young adult just starting her career in Southern California when the Community of Christ (then the RLDS Church) experienced a pivotal moment in its history: a revelation was presented that, among other things, opened the door for women to be ordained to the priesthood. For many, it was a moment of profound rightness. For others, it was a deeply divisive decision that would reshape the church for years to come. She recalls being "oblivious" to the years of study and conversation that led to this moment, as she had been busy with university and her new job. She wasn't at the 1984 World Conference where this new scripture, now Section 156 of the Community of Christ Doctrine and Covenants, was approved. News traveled slowly back then, through weekly long-distance phone calls and reports from conference attendees returning home. A Sense of Rightness Amidst Division When President Cramm finally read the new revelation, her reaction was immediate. "For me, there was this immediate sense of rightness to it and this sense of course! Why hadn't I thought of this before?" she recalls. She expresses a retrospective sense of shame that, as a woman in the male-dominated field of flight test engineering, she hadn't previously recognized the "lack of equal opportunity for leadership and service" in her own church. However, she soon learned of the "divisive nature" of the decision. People had walked out of the conference in protest, and the revelation sparked a schism within the church. Congregations split. Padlocks were put on church doors, and debates raged over property ownership. President Cramm's own congregation in Lancaster, California, handled the change well. But the wider church felt the strain. Personal Cost of a Calling Two years later, in 1986, Stassi Cramm received her first call to the priesthood. She remembers the vulnerability of that moment, standing before her stake conference as some members, including people she considered friends, raised their hands in opposition. "It's hard. You feel vulnerable anyways when you're accepting a call. And so when there’s a group of people who raise their hand against you, intellectually you understand it. Emotionally you feel it". She credits the very first women who were ordained as her heroes, calling them "amazing path makers" who endured verbal criticism with humility and faithfulness. For herself, she chose to live in the difficult space of maintaining friendships with those who disagreed, recognizing that differing perspectives on whether the revelation was "of God" shouldn't sever their ability to be friends. This, she notes, is where Christlike love becomes a conscious choice, not a feeling—a choice to respect others' opinions even when you don't share them. Navigating Faithful Disagreement This experience highlights a core aspect of the Community of Christ's culture: navigating faithful disagreement. President Cramm later moved to a congregation in Las Vegas where a group remained opposed to women in the priesthood. The congregation found a way to coexist, making small accommodations for one another. For example, if a woman said the communion prayer, a male priesthood member would serve the sacrament to those who objected. These were hard conversations, but they were necessary to stay in community together. President Cramm shares a poignant memory of a conversation with a woman who opposed her call as pastor. It ended with a mutual promise: "I will continue to pray for you." "And I will continue to pray for you." It was a moment of recognition that both were seeking God's will and had to trust God to lead them forward together. The 1984 revelation was more than just a policy change; it was a defining event that forced the church to confront deep divisions and learn how to live together amidst profound disagreement. The lessons learned from that difficult period continue to shape the Community of Christ's approach to decision-making, emphasizing conversation, study, and seeking a higher degree of consensus on important issues. She has come a long way since 1984, becoming the 1st female Prophet of Community of Christ! Don't miss our other conversations with Stassi: https://gospeltangents.com/people/stassi-cramm/ Copyright © 2025 Gospel Tangents All Rights Reserved


    JWHA Recap 2025-Whirlwind Trip to John Whitmer Historical Association Conference! Sep 27, 2025
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    Here is my JWHA recap 2025! I'll show photos and give my reactions to the award winners! Check it out! Don’t miss our other Tangent Trips! https://gospeltangents.com/mormon_history/gt-trips/ Copyright © 2025 Gospel Tangents All Rights Reserved https://youtu.be/NL_LkWQBApk Fresh off the plane from Kansas City, I wanted to share a recap of my fantastic, albeit hectic, week at the John Whitmer Historical Association (JWHA) meetings in Independence. It’s been a whirlwind of travel lately—from Atlanta to Canada and then straight to JWHA—but the experience was absolutely worth it. Honoring Legends and Celebrating New Works The awards ceremony was a major highlight, celebrating the brilliant minds in Mormon History. A truly special moment was seeing Mark Staker, this year's JWHA president, present Grant McMurray with a Lifetime Achievement Award. Grant, a former president of the Community of Christ and one of the founders of JWHA 50 years ago, was in high spirits despite being in a wheelchair, which I hadn't seen before. He joked that with a Lifetime Achievement Award, he didn't need to do anything else in his life, which got a good laugh from everyone. Congratulations are also in order for several other award winners: Matt Harris, the incoming JWHA president, deservedly won the Best Book Award for his incredible book, Second Class Saints. It was great to see him presented with the award. His mother attended the conference too! Jason Smith, who runs the JWHA podcast, received the Excellence in Leadership award. Cristina Gagliano (formerly Rosetti) won Best Biography for her book on Mormon fundamentalist Joseph White Musser. William Perez won for his article "Unholy Waters," and Ryan Davis won for his work on Mormon missionaries and popular music in Spain. Katie Rich and Heather Sundahl were recognized for their work on 50 Years of Exponent II. Katie Rich is clearly an impressive historian who has slipped under my radar, and I need to get her on the podcast soon!. JWHA Recap: Presentations, Pictures, and People The conference was packed with fascinating people and presentations. I had the opportunity to present with Mark Tensmeyer and Amanda Hendrix-Komoto on Joseph Smith's polygamy and the statistical question of how many children he should have had. We're hoping to get a group together for a follow-up discussion soon. Unfortunately, due to scheduling conflicts, I missed several presentations I was eager to see, including those by Kyle Beshears (my favorite Baptist pastor), my good friend Newell Bringhurst, Ganesh Cherian, and Jared Halverson. Kyle, an expert on James Strang, was even passing out hilarious Nintendo 64-style stickers of Strang. It was a joy to reconnect with so many friends and colleagues, including: My friend Matt Turner, who helped me with a walking tour of Independence a few years ago. Historians and authors like Alex Baugh, Brian Hales, Craig Foster, and Mark Scherer. Representatives from various restoration groups, which is what makes Whitmer so unique. I chatted with Wayne, a Seventy in the Bickertonite Church, and John Hajicek, who follows James Strang's legacy. Special Interview and a Look Ahead One of the most exciting parts of the trip was interviewing Stassi Cramm, the first female prophet of the Community of Christ. The interview took place this morning, and I'm hoping to edit and post it this weekend, so keep an eye out for that! I also had the pleasure of meeting other leaders from the Community of Christ, including Bunda Chibwe of the First Presidency. We also took a fascinating tour led by Matt Harris to Topeka, Kansas, to visit the elementary school of Linda Brown from the landmark Brown v. Board of Education Supreme Court case. Now a museum run by the National Park Service, it was a powerful experience to see the history firsthand. For those planning ahead, next year's JWHA conference will be in Council Bluffs, Iowa, home of Winter Quarters, so I expect we'll have some great historical tours there as well. It was an exhausting but incredibly rewarding week. Thanks to everyone who makes this community so vibrant and fun. I’m already looking forward to next year! Don’t miss our other Tangent Trips! https://gospeltangents.com/mormon_history/gt-trips/ Copyright © 2025 Gospel Tangents All Rights Reserved


    Mourning at Mountain Meadows (Going on a Tangent) Sep 11, 2025
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    Today marks 168 years since the Mountain Meadows Massacre. Following last year’s JWHA conference in St George, Utah, I drove by the 4 monuments to the tragedy. Here is an in-depth account of the Mountain Meadows Massacre, an "unspeakable tragedy" that occurred on September 11, 1857. This episode is a somber reflection on this event, along with a condemnation of political and gun violence. https://youtu.be/5MQbBi2zhwI Don’t miss our other Tangent Trips! https://gospeltangents.com/mormon_history/gt-trips/ Copyright © 2025 Gospel Tangents All Rights Reserved Context and Causes of Mountain Meadows Massacre: In 1857, Utah was considered in rebellion by President James Buchanan, who sent the U.S. Army to put down the "Mormon rebellion". Mormons, having previously been expelled from Kirtland, Missouri, and Nauvoo, were on edge, determined not to be driven out again. Brigham Young, then a former governor, had directed Mormons not to sell supplies to immigrants because they were preparing for war. He also warned the federal government about the dangers on the immigration road if Mormons were attacked and had told Native Americans that it was "okay to steal from any immigrants". The victims were the Fancher- Baker party, a group of about 100-120 men, women, and children from Arkansas, traveling to California with many cattle. They were denied supplies in Utah and were in the "wrong place at the wrong time". Mountain Meadows Massacre Events: The conflict began around September 7th when Mormons, who had enlisted Native Americans, attempted to raid the immigrants' cattle. An initial scuffle resulted in a Mormon shooting and killing one immigrant. The Baker-Fancher party circled their wagons, forming a defensive fortification. To cover up the initial murder and prevent witnesses, local Mormon leaders decided to kill everyone. The party was under siege for several days, running low on ammunition and food, and being shot at when they tried to get water from a spring. John D. Lee, a Mormon, pretended to be a negotiator and came under a white flag of truce. He persuaded the immigrants to surrender their guns, promising safe passage. The men were separated from the women, children, and sick. A signal, possibly "halt" followed by "do your duty," was given. Mormon men shot the Fancher men next to them. The women and children were also killed, as they didn't want any witnesses. Approximately 96 to 120 men, women, and children were killed. Seventeen small children survived because they were deemed too young to "tell tales". Aftermath and Memorials: The Mountain Meadows Massacre is considered the "worst chapter in LDS history". John D. Lee was the only person convicted (and executed) for his role in the massacre. He was tried in Beaver, Utah, in two trials (1875 and 1876), with the second resulting in his conviction by an all-Mormon jury. He was executed by firing squad at the massacre site on March 23, 1877, almost 20 years after the event. The LDS Church later purchased the land and worked with the federal government to establish it as a National Historic Landmark. The site includes several memorials: ◦ The Overlook Monument: The monument features a wall with the names of many victims. It also has lookout points to identify the Men and Boys' Memorial, Women & Children's Memorial, and the immigration campsite. ◦ The Gravesite Memorial: Patterned after an 1859 cairn built by U.S. Army soldiers. It contains stones from the original cairn and crypts where the bones of 29 victims were reinterred in 1999, wrapped in shrouds and placed in oak ossuaries on a thin layer of Arkansas soil. A child's skull, removed by the U.S. Army in 1879, was reinterred by relatives in 2017. The memorial was dedicated on September 11, 1999, with a statement of regret from Henry B. Eyring on September 11, 2007. ◦ Memorial for Men and Older Boys: A smaller monument about two-thirds of a mile from the gravesite. ◦ Memorial for Women, Children, and Wounded: Located three-quarters of a mile beyond the men and boys' memorial. I also travelled to Beaver, Utah, where John D. Lee was tried. There is a historic courthouse there, although it may not be the exact building from the trials. Many of the miltia came from Parowan and Cedar City, where the "trouble started" andmany participants in the massacre were from there. Have you seen the memorial before? Don’t miss our other Tangent Trips! https://gospeltangents.com/mormon_history/gt-trips/ Copyright © 2025 Gospel Tangents All Rights Reserved


    Temples & Truman: Independence, Missouri’s Historic Legacy (Going on a Tangent) Sep 08, 2025
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    Come along with me on a walking tour of Independence, Missouri! We’ll explore the historic Temple Lot Church (Hedrickites) and look at rare photographs from the Great Depression, when attempts were made to build the Jackson County Temple on the very cornerstones Joseph Smith laid in 1831. We’ll also stop by the Stone Church, the oldest church in Missouri, built by Joseph Smith III, and visit the Remnant Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. As we walk, we’ll trace the same steps once taken by Harry Truman, stopping at the United Nations Peace Plaza and the Auditorium he frequented after returning home from the presidency. Our journey will also take us to the Cutlerite Church and Temple. It’s a unique chance to experience history, faith, and legacy all in one walk—you won’t want to miss it! https://youtu.be/E-z1dRBPzqw Don’t miss our other Tangent Trips! https://gospeltangents.com/mormon_history/gt-trips/ Copyright © 2025 Gospel Tangents All Rights Reserved From Zion to Truman Join us on an extended walking tour through Independence, Missouri, a city rich with pivotal moments in both the Restoration movement and American political history. From the foundational sites of early Mormonism to the stomping grounds of President Harry S. Truman, Independence offers a unique blend of historical insights. The Sacred Ground: Temple Lot Our journey begins at the Temple Lot, a site dedicated by the Mormon Prophet Joseph Smith and other Mormon leaders on August 3, 1831. This area was envisioned as the center of Zion, a grand temple complex. Today, it’s surrounded by several significant structures, including the Community of Christ Auditorium and Temple, the LDS Stake Center, and LDS Visitor Center. The Temple Lot Church, sometimes known as the Hedrick-ites, stands prominently. This site has seen its share of trials; the first and second churches built here were both tragically destroyed by fire. A particularly heartbreaking incident in 1990 saw a former member reportedly burn down a church with the misguided belief that it would expedite the rebuilding of the temple. Plans for a larger temple with groundbreaking and footings were halted by the Great Depression, leaving a famous foundation hole. Interestingly, artifacts like stones, found by Otto Fetting, are on display, hinting at the never-realized Greek-style design. The envisioned temple's footprint was surprisingly small, especially compared to later temples like Nauvoo or Salt Lake. Inside the Temple Lot Visitor Center, you can see photographs of early leaders and even a display of the Book of Commandments, a precursor to the Doctrine and Covenants, which is apparently being phased out of print and may be de-canonized. Architectural and Spiritual Diversity: Other Churches of Independence Just a short distance away, we visit the Stone Church, which stands as the oldest church in Missouri built by Joseph Smith III. Its interior, with its large pipe organ, impressive stained-glass windows, and wooden pillars, might remind visitors of the Salt Lake Tabernacle, albeit on a smaller scale. The Remnant Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints has its headquarters in the former Chrisman High School, a building that also operates a lunch program for the homeless. A particularly unique stop is the Cutlerite Church, established by Alpheus Cutler in 1853. This small denomination, with fewer than a dozen members (most over 70), maintains a distinctive practice: they are one of the few churches outside the LDS Church and some polygamous groups that practice baptisms for the dead and endowments. Their building serves a dual purpose, with a chapel on the first floor and a "temple area" on the second, where sacred" temple work is conducted. Early Mormon Footprints and Conflicts Independence also holds the memory of early Mormon settlers and the tensions they faced. We visit the site of Edward Partridge's home and the relocated Jones Flournoy Home, where Jones Flournoy lived in 1831 when he sold the Temple Lot to the Mormons. The Frederick Madison Smith Study, though moved from its original location five miles east, reminds us of the grandson of Joseph Smith who, as prophet of the RLDS Church, advocated for "supreme directional control". This policy caused many members, including Otto Fetting, to leave and join other factions like the Hedrick-ites or Fettingites. The Rathbun home, specifically the site of Robert and Hannah Rathbun's blacksmith shop, recalls a violent incident on July 20, 1833, when their shop was broken into, leading to their forced departure from the county. The Printing Office of WW Phelps, where "The Evening and the Morning Star" newspaper was published, was destroyed in July 1833. This act of destruction was sparked by Phelps's printing of "Free People of Color," which local Missourians, in a pro-slavery state, perceived as an invitation for Black people to enter Missouri. The Log Courthouse, erected in 1827, served as the temporary seat of Jackson County government and dates directly to the period when Mormons were in Jackson County. The original location of Governor Boggs's home is now just an empty field. Governor Lilburn Boggs, initially friendly, later issued the infamous Extermination Order against the Mormons. The Noland House, a popular inn, was where Joseph Smith and other Mormon leaders were held under house arrest in 1838, occasionally visiting the desolate Temple Lot. The site of an early jail is now the Truman National Historic Site Visitors Center. In 1833, it held prominent Mormons like Sydney Gilbert, William McLellin, John Corrill, and Isaac Morley, & Porter Rockwell. Presidential Presence: Harry Truman Independence also celebrates its connection to President Harry S. Truman, who made his mark both before and after his presidency. The UN Peace Plaza commemorates the formal announcement by President Truman in the nearby Community of Christ Auditorium on June 27, 1945, that the U.S. was a signatory to the United Nations. At the Public Square, you'll find a statue of General Andrew Jackson, presented by President Truman in 1949. The Log Courthouse holds an interesting personal connection, as Harry Truman served as a judge there. This building was still used as late as 1932. The Truman Home is a private residence, though free tickets can be obtained at the museum. Interestingly, this historic home is located just around the corner from the Remnant Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints headquarters. Truman was known for his daily habit of walking two miles before breakfast, and a famous false headline "Dewey Defeats Truman" is commemorated nearby. Have you visited all these sites in Independence? Don’t miss our other Tangent Trips! https://gospeltangents.com/mormon_history/gt-trips/ Copyright © 2025 Gospel Tangents All Rights Reserved


    JFS Book Give Away 2025! Sep 07, 2025
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    Unannounced Live Gospel Tangents recently surprised viewers with an unannounced live stream including a JFS book giveaway. This is a "late night edition" that offers a whirlwind update on my extensive travels, upcoming interviews, and even some "breaking news" from the Temple Lot Church. Despite a busy travel schedule and a significant backlog of videos to edit, I managed to connect, give away a JFS book, and share exciting previews of what's to come! https://youtu.be/Jw_a2PA5jAU Recent Travels and Adventures I’ve been to several significant sites related to the Latter Day Saint movement: Community of Christ Conference in Independence, Missouri: This "super fun trip" included reactions to Stassi Cramm being ordained the new prophet in the Community of Christ. While there, I also visited the Temple Lot Church, meeting a "Kiwi" (New Zealander) who hinted at a possible interview. I also updated my tour with video, experimenting with cell phone cameras, promising many unpublished videos from Independence. Mormon History Association: Following Independence, he attended the Mormon History Association, where I toured several LDS churches, including a "really old" one in Ogden and Joseph Soderberg's church, known for President Hinckley's testimony story. Strangites in Wisconsin: Instead of Houston, I visited the Strangites in Wisconsin, staying with former guest Bill Shepard. He also hung out with David Boice and Gary Weber, who gave me a tour of the Hill of Promise, which the Strangites consider akin to the Hill Cumorah. ◦ The Voree Plates and the Hill of Promise: Gary Weber explained that the Hill of Promise is where James Strang found the Voree record. An angel reportedly told Strang where the record was buried beneath a tree, and respected townsmen witnessed its excavation. The record, encased in stone, crumbled upon exposure to air but was translated by Strang, telling the story of the "people of Raja Ramor". It described a great war, similar to the Hill Cumorah narrative, and a pictorial representation of priesthood structure mirroring that under Joseph Smith and James Strang. ◦ Prophetic Significance: The Hill of Promise is also sacred because Strang's revelations state that Daniel from the Bible will appear there someday to teach the saints and announce Christ's soon approaching second coming. ◦ Beaver Island Plans: David Boice & I visited Burlington (originally called Voree by Strang), where we saw several Strangite sites, including a plaque for a never-built temple. I’m planning a trip to Beaver Island, which was James Strang's later settlement where he was crowned king and assassinated. Gary Weber noted that there's "not a lot to see" on Beaver Island, mostly dirt roads, but a ferry or plane can take visitors there. Calgary/Cardston, Alberta, Canada: I flew to Calgary for my son's wedding and visited Cardston, Alberta, home to the first international temple for the LDS church. I received a book on Raymond, Alberta, a town settled by Raymond Knight (son of Newell Knight) and noted for being "practically Utah up in Canada" due to its 80% Mormon population. Cardston is compared to Manti due to its remote location and pioneer feel, with concerns about preserving its murals during an upcoming refurbishment when a new temple in Lethbridge opens. Beyond church history, I also enjoyed a Brewers-Cardinals baseball game with my friend Walter Reade. Upcoming Interviews and Content Viewers have much to look forward to from Gospel Tangents: John Turner Interview and Book Giveaway: John Turner's book, "Joseph Smith The Rise and Fall of an American Prophet," was released on Amazon. I’ve already conducted an interview with Turner, and part one was released. An autographed copy of this book was given away in a contest. Strangite Interviews: Interviews with Gary Weber and potentially other Strangite figures, including a man named Trevor, are in the pipeline. Temple Lot Interviews: The host hopes to secure an interview with Stacy Cramm, the new prophet of the Community of Christ, Trevor from the Temple Lot, and Tom from a fundamentalist group. Travel Videos: A significant backlog of travel videos, including the Mesa Temple and the Calgary/Cardston temples, are awaiting editing and released.. JFS Book Giveaways and "Breaking News" During the live stream, I gave away a copy of "Joseph Fielding Smith: a Mormon Theologian" to Mark Francis from Wendell, Idaho. In a surprising announcement, "breaking news" from the Temple Lot Church: they are going to quit selling the Book of Commandments. While Randy Sheldon hinted that this might lead to its "de-canonization". For those unfamiliar, the Book of Commandments was the precursor to the Doctrine and Covenants, originally intended for publication in 1833 before a mob destroyed the printing press. Only a few rare copies were bound, making first editions extremely valuable. I express gratitude for my "night owl" viewers and their support. Please support me here at Gospel Tangents by signing up at Patreon.


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