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    FRIED. The Burnout Podcast

    Your best people aren't lazy. They're burned out. And there's a difference — one that costs you performance, retention, and culture if you can't spot it.

    FRIED: The Burnout Podcast is a top 1% global show with over a million downloads, hosted by keynote speaker and burnout expert Cait Donovan. It's the show for leaders, executives, HR professionals, and high-responsibility humans who want to understand burnout at a systems level — not just survive it personally.

    The core question FRIED keeps asking: Where is the work no longer matching the humans doing it?

    Burnout isn't a motivation problem. It's a mismatch problem. When the fit between people, roles, expectations, and organizational systems breaks down — disengagement builds, resentment festers, and your best people start quietly planning their exit. FRIED helps you see those mismatches before they become crises.

    Each week you'll get expert conversations on workplace burnout, leadership, organizational culture, employee retention, and sustainable high performance — plus solo episodes where Cait breaks down the hidden dynamics driving disengagement in even the highest-performing teams.

    No blame. No fluff. No breathing exercises you didn't ask for.

    Topics covered: burnout prevention, chronic stress, leadership development, workplace culture, employee disengagement, resentment at work, emotional intelligence, nervous system regulation, boundaries, organizational design, psychological safety, and middle management burnout.

    FRIED. Because burnout isn't the price of ambition. It's a signal that something needs to change.

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    Copyright: © All works owned and produced by Cait Donovan LLC, 2022

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    Helena Lucia: Money, Burnout, and Interrupting Old Patterns After Leaving a Cult May 29, 2022
    Show notes

    Helena Lucia, founder and CEO of SISU Journey, is a speaker, podcast host and trauma-informed money coach. Her experiences growing up in an extreme fundamentalist religious cult led her down a path where she became passionate about helping others heal from childhood trauma through gaining a better relationship with money. She shares her tips for interrupting old patterns of behavior, healing from burnout, and rethinking how we view money. Tune into this episode to learn more.


    “Instead of having the prescribed identity that you've been given, who do you want to become?” asks Helena Lucia, CEO and founder of SISU Journey. Helena grew up burnt out. Growing up in a cult meant that she did not have the agency to listen to or attend to her own needs. When she finally escaped the religious cult and her abusive marriage, she was a mother of four children and had to start over from scratch while totally burned out. She went to college for a degree in computer sciences and headed into the corporate world where she found herself in a sequence of burnout after burnout. When Helena realized the pattern, she was able to learn how to interrupt it through a process she refers to as SPACE.


    Helena decided she wanted to find a way to help others heal from their traumas and interrupt the patterns in their lives that were leading to burnout. By learning to give ourselves the physical space we need to pay attention to our body’s cues, access people who can help us, and redefine ourselves based on our own terms instead of trying to be what everyone else wants, we can interrupt burnout and begin to heal from trauma.


    Tune into today’s episode of FRIED. The Burnout Podcast for a conversation with Helena Lucia about how to interrupt old patterns in our lives. Learn each step of the acronym SPACE and how to apply it to your own life.


    Quotes

    • “I use the acronym of space. So starting out with creating more space in between things. P is paying attention to how your body is reacting and responding. And then you can start interrupting the pattern of how you unconsciously react in a situation or how you desire to respond.” (21:26-21:52 | Helena Lucia)

    • “If your family has a pattern that's been perpetuated through the years and you as the ancestor in charge of changing the pattern actually take the learnings from that and release the emotion, you can actually interrupt a family history pattern.” (22:14-22:36 | Helena Lucia)

    • “C is create your dream identity. And that's where you start. Instead of having the prescribed identity that you've been given that you were told you are, who do you want to become?” (35:38-35:51 | Helena Lucia)

    • “When we co regulate as infants we're supposed to be getting our cues for safety and freedom from our caregivers and when we don't, we develop attachment wounds. Those attachment wounds get fused very tightly to our relationship with money, because money in a scarce childhood experience gets fused with this idea of safety and freedom really deeply.” (40:11-40:44 | Helena Lucia)



    XOXO,

    C


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    If you know that it’s time to actually DO something about the burnout cycle you’ve been in for too long - book your free consult today: bit.ly/callcait


    Take the FRIED burnout quiz: https://friedtheburnoutpodcast.com/quiz


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    #straightfromcait: The Articles Against Self-Care for Burnout Recovery Are Missing This Major Point May 22, 2022
    Show notes

    Many articles that talk about burnout make the mistake of devaluing self-care as a burnout prevention or recovery tool. But self care isn’t all just pedicures and massages, and it can be a huge factor in burnout recovery. When you take away self-care, it puts the entire focus on the systems in place that cause burnout, which may lead people to believe there is nothing they can do to influence their burnout recovery. In today’s #straightfromcait episode, Cait explains 8 factors affecting burnout that are within our locus of control.


    Are you feeling like you have no control over any of the causes of your burnout? The first step is to figure out which factors are internal and which are external. If your burnout is caused mostly by external factors such as your job, then you know to start making an exit plan. Not all factors are external, and many internal factors are within our control. By getting reacquainted with our core values, learning to set boundaries, and beginning to meet our most basic foundational bodily needs, you can reduce the factors that contribute to burnout.


    Tune into this week’s #straightfromcait episode for a conversation about how certain types of self care are pivotal for burnout recovery. Learn the 8 factors within our internal locus of control that can help you heal from burnout.


    Quotes

    • “Waiting for the system to change while you're already burned out is not a successful plan.” (3:27-3:32)

    • “You might not be able to change the system, but you can leave it.” (6:50-6:54)

    • “Knowing what your values are, and taking action to move yourself toward a life that is more aligned with them will catapult your recovery. Being in alignment matters. I don't mean this in a woowoo way. I mean this in a neuroscience way. If you are living a life that does not match your values, about 75 to 80% of the time, you are creating stress for yourself on a regular basis that your body has to react to.” (12:21-12:50)

    • “It is really, really difficult to notice and meet your bigger needs when your basic needs are ignored. Work on being in your body enough to notice when you are thirsty, tired, have to use the bathroom, your eyes need a break from the screen, you’re full from eating, your body is asking you to move. The basics. When you start caring for yourself on that very base level, you start to believe you are deserving of even more care.” (16:33-17:35)


    Links:


    https://friedtheburnoutpodcast.com/quiz


    https://www.friedtheburnoutpodcast.com/post/straightfromcait-teach-your-brain-that-you-re-safe-and-it-will-grow-new-nerve-cells


    https://www.maggiesupernova.com/yoga


    https://caitdonovan.com/freebie-ie


    https://caitdonovan.com/freebie-values


    Reference:

    Harrington, R. Personality and Stress. Stress, Health, and Well-Being: Thriving in the 21st Century. Boston. Cengage. 2013. 9781111831615. Ch. 6. pp. 171-208.



    XOXO,

    C


    If you know that it’s time to actually DO something about the burnout cycle you’ve been in for too long - book your free consult today: bit.ly/callcait


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    Nneka Roberts: Using Systems to Create More Time, Mental Space, Creativity, and Money May 15, 2022
    Show notes

    Nneka Roberts, operations consultant at Sage Simple Solutions, has worked designing systems for 20 years. She now works with consulting clients teaching them how to implement systems to improve their businesses and lives. She shares her tips for using systems to help avoid burnout. Tune into this episode to learn more.


    “I think what ends up happening is that we get on the marketing, sales delivery rollercoaster, and we forget to build in support, which is a key component of your business,” explains Nneka Roberts, operations consultant at Sage Simple Solutions. Nneka’s burnout came a few years into starting her life coaching practice. She loved her career, her clients and the freedom she had, but she did not enjoy the business aspect of running the practice.


    Nneka waited too long to build systems into her business and ended up burning out. She learned afterward that systems are not only necessary, but they are a form of self care. Not having support systems in place caused Nneka to get stuck doing the parts of her job that weren’t helping her grow as a coach. These tasks sucked up not only her time, but also a lot of the joy she had for her career. By investing in systems you can avoid burnout and help yourself and your business thrive for years to come.


    Tune into today’s episode of FRIED. The Burnout Podcast for a conversation with Nneka Roberts about the importance of implementing systems regardless of if you are a solopreneur or are in charge of a team. Learn how to get started recording your daily processes to create your own systems and how to utilize tools as part of your systems.


    Quotes

    • “The first few years it was like a dream come true. I had the freedom that I wanted to have. I was doing great work. I loved my clients. I was very passionate. But what started happening and I think every entrepreneur kind of goes through this, while I love the act of coaching like I enjoy coaching a lot. I did not enjoy the business thing of coaching, like finding clients and having sales goals and that sort of stuff.” (3:52-4:25)

    • “I think what ends up happening is that we get on the marketing, sales delivery rollercoaster, and we forget to build in support, which is a key component of your business.” (9:10-9:23)

    • “Yes, the time is one thing, the hours, minutes or seconds, you get that back for sure. But it's the mental space that it's taking up in your brain that's chomping at your capacity to create as a coach or as a creative. It's like you are focused on these little things that really don't matter. It doesn't help your creative mind. It is taking away from your creativity, as opposed to nourishing it and building it and multiplying it.” (12:10-12:39)

    • “Systems are those lived rituals that you've had for doing things in your business. But they are in a form that can be shared with a team, or implemented in a tool.” (16:26-16:39)

    • “Your work is needed. That's what I want to share with people, your work is needed. Your work is needed for your people today, it's even needed for you for today. It's needed for your people today. And it's gonna be needed in generations to come. So you want to build your business so that it's available for generations to come.” (40:57-41:18)

    • “I would say that systems are self care. They are the fourth prong in your business, they call it they help you help to support you. And make the time, take the time to invest in them.” (50:18-50:33)


    Links

    https://sagesimplesolutions.com/

    https://www.instagram.com/sagesimplesolutions/

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/nnekakelly/

    bit.ly/ssswhotohire



    XOXO,

    C


    If you know that it’s time to actually DO something about the burnout cycle you’ve been in for too long - book your free consult today: bit.ly/callcait


    Check out the FRIED Burnout quiz: https://friedtheburnoutpodcast.com/quiz


    Register for the May 2022 FRIED Masterclass: https://www.caitdonovan.com/offers/fSKNzXzh


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    #straightfromsarah: Rebuilding Trust With Yourself During Burnout Recovery May 08, 2022
    Show notes

    Do you struggle with trusting yourself? If you’re experiencing burnout it can be extremely difficult to trust yourself. You’ve been ignoring your body’s signals for a long time, not taking care of yourself properly, and you likely feel like a shell of yourself. To recover from burnout, you must rebuild that trust. In the first ever #straightfromsarah episode, FRIED burnout coach Sarah Vosen talks about how to begin the trust building process.


    Learning to listen to your body is essential to burnout recovery. It’s likely that by the time you’ve burnt out, your body has been screaming at you for quite some time. If you tune in and really listen, you will start to learn what your body needs and be able to respond accordingly. Once you start providing your body with what it needs and stop forcing yourself to do things that you hate, you will naturally rebuild trust in yourself.


    Tune in to this week’s #straightfromsarah episode to learn about how to get started with rebuilding trust in yourself. Learn how to listen to signals from your body in order to aid your burnout recovery.


    Quotes

    • “The good news is that we can learn new ways of being and doing that rebuild trust with ourselves. I know that it may sound impossible to trust yourself, especially if you're at the peak of your burnout. You just don't feel trustworthy, you feel like a shell of yourself. But lucky for us, we can bounce back.” (1:56-2:12)

    • “Overall, I have a much better relationship with my body than I've ever had, since I started listening and providing instead of forcing myself to do what someone told me was right. “ (8:30-8:41)

    • “Really notice anything that you're feeling that you don't like, notice the symptom and take a second to say, “Hello body part. I hear you. I'm listening now.” And then make a page in your journal or in a note on your phone and list the body part that is talking to you. This is enough to start, just keep tuning in and noticing the body parts that are talking to you or yelling at you.” (10:48-11:14)

    • “If you've been ignoring your body's messages for years, your body might act like a cat that you left home while you went on vacation. At first it might be pretty pissed and poop on your bed until it realizes that you are here to stay and actually ready to listen.” (11:49-12:04)

    • “Remember, the road to healing is not a straight line.” (12:18-12:20)

    • “We are not trying to listen to our minds, because that's where the mind beasts lives. And our minds are evolutionarily negative because they want to keep us safe and don't want us to do new things. But we want to recover from burnout and that requires new things. So we're gonna shift and listen to our body instead.” (14:02-14:19)


    XOXO,

    C


    If you know that it’s time to actually DO something about the burnout cycle you’ve been in for too long - book your free consult today: bit.ly/callcait


    Check out the FRIED Burnout quiz: https://friedtheburnoutpodcast.com/quiz


    Register for the May 2022 FRIED Masterclass: https://www.caitdonovan.com/offers/fSKNzXzh


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    Dan Sykes: The Somatic Fanatic Talks the Power of Curiosity For Nervous System Training May 01, 2022
    Show notes

    “If you are no longer curious, the best of your life is behind you because the best of your life is being curious,” shares Dan Sykes, Founder of the Somatic Training Network and author of Somatic Fanatic. Dan’s burnout came as a result of a midlife crisis. He found relief in the somatic arts, the art of training the nervous system, and aims to share the importance of nervous system training with the world.


    Dan found himself experiencing a midlife crisis after his divorce, in part because he had chosen his wife over his desired filmmaking career. He found himself divorced, seemingly shut out of the career he had desired for himself decades prior, and staring down another thirty to forty years of life. When Dan discovered sistema, a Russian martial art that trains the nervous system, he found both psychological and physical relief from his burnout. He now works to share the somatic arts with others and to make nervous system training more widely known in the Western world.


    Tune into today’s episode of FRIED. The Burnout Podcast for a conversation with Dan Sykes about the importance of the nervous system and the roles it plays in all aspects of life. Learn to retrain your nervous system as a way to heal from burnout.


    Quotes

    • “Midlife crisis to me is when you come to feel that the world is still in the midst of having this party of being alive and you’re no longer invited, and yet you’re looking at another 30 or 40 years of being around the planet. That’s what midlife crisis felt like to me.” (8:16-8:36)

    • “The reason we retain all this chronic tension is because our nervous system has forgotten how to feel these muscles. As it forgets how to feel them, it forgets that it can let go.” (19:51-20:09)

    • “I learned once again to lead everything I do curiosity first. Where instead of me pushing myself to accomplish, I got curious of what might be possible in every area of my life.” (26:45-27:11)

    • “Nervous system is as crucial a part of wellness as nutrition or strength training or relaxation of other kinds. It’s kind of the missing link. My mission is that hopefully 10 years from now everyone in the West will know that you have to train your nervous system on a regular basis.” (45:16-45:39)

    • “Your nervous system runs your entire experience of living. It takes in all sense and it does all commands so when you improve the function of your nervous system, all these areas of life get simultaneous benefit.” (46:05-46:20)

    • “If you’re predominantly feeling emotional pain, focus on the physical side of nervous system training. Move and feel. If you’re predominantly feeling physical pain, you should focus temporarily predominantly on the emotional side.” (48:00-48:27)

    • “If you are no longer curious, the best of your life is behind you, because the best of your life is being curious.” (52:57-53:21)


    Links

    https://linkedin.com/dansykes

    https://somatictrainingnetwork.com/

    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCUemR2opnKZBeClFxarQbSg

    https://podcastconnection.org/dansykes/

    https://www.youtube.com/c/EMERGENCYFISHPARTY


    XOXO,

    C


    If you know that it’s time to actually DO something about the burnout cycle you’ve been in for too long - book your free consult today: bit.ly/callcait


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    #straightfromcaitandsarah: Healing the Healers, Hyper-Independence, and Rules for Helping Apr 24, 2022
    Show notes

    Are you a healer that struggles with asking for help? When you’re used to wearing all the hats and doing everything yourself, it can be really difficult to realize when you need to reach out. In this week’s #straightfromcaitandsarah episode, Cait and FRIED Burnout coach Sarah Vosen talk about how to recognize hyper-independence and how to ask for what you need.


    Highly sensitive people have a strong pull toward helping others, but often neglect themselves. If you try to do everything yourself, you run the risk of heading straight for burnout. Healers are so used to taking care of everyone else and never asking others for similar help. It can be uncomfortable to release that control and ask for help or to recognize when it is time to hire someone so you can take off some of those hats. When you find yourself feeling resentment toward responsibilities in your life, it is important to evaluate those feelings. If something you are doing causes resentment, it may be possible to stop doing that thing or to delegate it to someone else.


    Tune into this week’s #straightfromcaitandsarah episode for a conversation about healing the healers, recognizing hyper-independence, and asking for help. Learn how to evaluate your needs and set healthy boundaries.


    Quotes

    • “It’s totally acceptable and okay to know things as well as you know them today and then learn something new tomorrow and have that be truer or newer or updated information.” (8:42-8:55 | Cait)

    • “I do think that highly sensitive folks tend to want to help and I think that’s because of the heightened empathy that people tend to feel.” (11:20-11:30 | Sarah)

    • “I had big aspirations and this desire, but I didn’t recognize that I didn’t have what it took. I set myself up for failure with these huge expectations, but I never actually looked and asked myself, is this realistic?” (16:06-16:22 | Sarah)

    • “I really don’t believe that you can keep yourself out of burnout long term if you’re not really clear on what success means to you.” (17:02-17:14 | Cait)

    • “I wasn’t recognizing that investing in someone would be a benefit. I was just seeing it as a loss. But also, I always felt like I couldn’t ever work enough to really get my head above water. I think it’s kind of the way I’m wired. I can’t see that many people. I give a lot, I want to spend time with people. And I wasn’t charging enough for what I was giving to make it work. So I was charging the same amount as an acupuncturist who would just throw needles in and leave, but I was doing massage, I was doing acupuncture, coaching them, giving a lot of attention and lifestyle suggestions and all sorts of things. But I wasn’t charging accordingly. I was doing all the admin, the insurance billing. I was cleaning. I don’t know, all the things. All the hats.” (20:35-21:30 | Sarah)

    • “Something gave me the idea early on in life that I will not get what I want. So I shouldn’t even ask. Shouldn’t even try.” (21:53-22:04 | Sarah)

    • “If you find out you have resentment about something, the first question is, does this thing actually need to be done at all?” (32:40-32:48 | Cait)


    Links

    https://caitdonovan.com/resentment-journal

    https://caitdonovan.as.me/sarah


    XOXO,

    C


    If you know that it’s time to actually DO something about the burnout cycle you’ve been in for too long - book your free consult today: bit.ly/callcait


    https://friedtheburnoutpodcast.com/quiz


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    Frenchie Ferenczi: Your Success as an Entrepreneur Depends on Clear Expectations and Great Boundaries Apr 17, 2022
    Show notes

    “I think that it all comes down to understanding your priorities and letting those shift and evolve,” explains Frenchie Ferenczi, Business Growth Strategist who works with entrepreneurs to maximize their income. When Frenchie first experienced burnout, she did not immediately recognize it for what it was. As she learned more and recovered, Frenchie changed her career path and began to teach her clients how to protect themselves from burnout.


    Frenchie worked in hospitality for her entire career and enjoyed it until the strain of never honoring her boundaries caused her to resent the members. She had been expected to accommodate every request and every possible need that the members had and were unable to prioritize her own needs. Frenchie ended up burning out and transitioned from working in hospitality to working directly with entrepreneurs, helping them to grow their businesses. She teaches her clients how to create a great customer experience while maintaining healthy boundaries and avoiding burnout.


    Tune into today’s episode of FRIED. The Burnout Podcast for a conversation with Frenchie Ferenczi about how to set clear expectations in order to uphold healthy boundaries. Learn how to organize your priorities in a way that keeps you and your mental health at the top of the list without sacrificing the growth of your business.


    Quotes

    • “The joy of bringing joy was my favorite thing. And then the level of resentment that grew towards the members of this company was just so clear to me.” (4:47-5:04)

    • “I think that this idea that we need to go all-in is common and I typically try and reframe that around, ‘What’s 100% of what you can give?’ because that’s a very different piece. I think that you need to be all-in in your ambition and in your motivation, but that doesn’t mean that you need to be all in with all of your resources, meaning all of your money, all of your time, all of your energy.” (9:38-10:02)

    • “I think that it all comes down to understanding your priorities and letting those shift and evolve. What comes along with that is also getting comfortable with the very uncomfortable fact that everything is a little bit of a tradeoff.” (39:42-40:03)

    • “If you, yourself, and your mental health are not very near the top or at the top of your priority list, that’s something to explore.” (41:01-41:12)


    Links

    www.frenchieferenczi.com

    www.instagram.com/frenchie.ferenczi

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/frenchieferenczi/

    https://content.frenchieferenczi.com/trim-your-todos


    XOXO,

    C


    https://caitdonovan--consultingsuccess.thrivecart.com/escape-demo/


    Join the Newsletter: https://caitdonovan.com/newsletter-office-hours


    If you know that it’s time to actually DO something about the burnout cycle you’ve been in for too long - book your free consult today: bit.ly/callcait for Cait and https://caitdonovan.as.me/sarah for Sarah!


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    #straightfromcait: Job Characteristics that Cause Burnout (Through the Entrepreneurial Eye) Apr 10, 2022
    Show notes

    Are you struggling with your workload as an entrepreneur? You could be headed toward burnout without even realizing it. Studies done on burnout often overlook entrepreneurs, but there are many ways the studies can still apply whether you work for a company or for yourself.


    The top job characteristics that can lead to burnout include workload, time pressure, role conflict, and role ambiguity. Without HR to go to for help, entrepreneurs must have these difficult conversations with themselves to determine if the workload can be trimmed or if time can be better organized. Entrepreneurs will often take on too many responsibilities and can be reluctant to outsource job roles to others. These strains plus a lack of built-in community and lack of positive feedback can lead to burnout.


    Tune into this week’s #straightfromcait episode for a conversation about the job characteristics that can cause burnout for entrepreneurs. Learn what to watch out for and how to reassess your work life to protect yourself from burnout.


    Quotes

    • “An unmanageable workload applies to everyone, whether they work for themselves or not.” (2:41-2:46)

    • “You have to get really clear on what actions are bringing value to your work and which actions are a distraction that you think you should be doing, but maybe don’t really need to.” (2:50-2:59)

    • “I know that there is all this information out there that says, ‘You have to have a smashing TikTok account. You have to have 10,000 followers on Instagram.’ No, you don’t. You have to be real good at the thing that you do, and you have to know where the people who need you are so that you can reach them. That’s it. And if you’re trying to be really good at being at all the places all the time, you are giving yourself an unmanageable workload that is going to lead you to burnout. So you’re gonna have to cut some things off that to-do list.” (4:07-4:37)

    • “Often, when we are wearing all the damn hats, we sometimes forget what we’re good at, what we love doing most, and what we should be focusing on the most as business owners.” (7:05-7:20)

    • “Do not skate over people sending you love. Stop. Let it in. You need it. You need it to protect yourself from burnout and you deserve it.” (12:12-12:23)


    Links


    Look out for Frenchie Ferenczi’s episode that releases on April 17th!


    https://www.annickina.com/

    https://facebook.com/groups/friedtheburnoutpodcast

    https://caitdonovan.as.me/free

    https://caitdonovan.as.me/sarah


    Maslach, C., Schaufeli, W.B., Leiter, M.P. (2001). Job Burnout. Annual Review of Psychology. 52. 397-422. https://doi.org/10.1146/annurev.psych.52.1.397



    XOXO,

    C


    If you know that it’s time to actually DO something about the burnout cycle you’ve been in for too long - book your free consult today: bit.ly/callcait


    https://caitdonovan--consultingsuccess.thrivecart.com/escape-demo/619d7d55cbc4a/


    Join the Newsletter https://caitdonovan.com/newsletter-office-hours


    https://friedtheburnoutpodcast.com/quiz


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    Dr. Kristin Neff: Self Compassion, Being Human, and Living with an Open Heart Apr 03, 2022
    Show notes

    “An open heart can hold everything,” shares Dr. Kristin Neff, Associate Professor of Educational Psychology, self-compassion research pioneer, and author of bestselling novel Self-Compassion. Dr. Neff developed the Mindful Self-Compassion program along with her colleague, Chris Germer, which is now taught internationally. She turned to self-compassion to help her overcome burnout.


    Dr. Neff’s burnout came when she was being a caregiver for her autistic son when he was young. She explains that learning to have self-compassion allowed her to set boundaries, recognize her intrinsic value, and focus on the connection between herself and the world around her. Along her journey, she conducted the first empirical studies ever done in self-compassion research and is recognized as one of the most influential researchers in psychology worldwide.


    Tune into today’s episode of FRIED. The Burnout Podcast for a conversation with Dr. Kristin Neff about self-compassion and how to open yourself up to conquering difficult situations and painful moments. Learn about how to reclaim your worth and start setting boundaries.


    Quotes

    • “One of the things that’s challenging for women especially is we’re raised to be people pleasers. We’re uncomfortable saying no because we’re afraid people won’t like us, learning to draw boundaries and to say no, and to say ‘you know, I’m sorry if you don’t like me, but my worth doesn’t stem from whether or not you like me. My worth is intrinsic because I’m a human being who is worthy of respect just like every other human being.’ That allows us to draw boundaries which is a really big thing for reducing burnout culture.” (17:56-18:41)

    • “All life is intrinsically valuable. When we’re talking about human beings, every life is worthy. And who we are is totally, inextricably intertwined with the rest of life.” (31:01-31:32)

    • “If your heart is open enough, there can even be joy in moments of real suffering. The joy isn’t in the contents of what’s happening, it’s in just having an open heart.” (35:09-35:22)

    • “An open heart can hold everything. That’s where we should be investing in. The more we focus on ‘how can I open my heart in this moment, the happier we’ll be.'” (48:17-48:38)


    Links

    www.self-compassion.org

    https://www.instagram.com/neffselfcompassion/


    XOXO,

    C


    If you know that it’s time to actually DO something about the burnout cycle you’ve been in for too long - book your free consult today: bit.ly/callcait


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    #straightfromcait: You're Burnt Out. Here's What That Means About You Mar 20, 2022
    Show notes

    Are you constantly changing yourself to try and adjust to other people’s values? When you sacrifice your core values for other people, this will often lead to burnout.


    Recovering from burnout requires you to set limits for your life that will keep you safe and healthy. By pushing perfectionism just to make other people happy, you risk burning out. Focus on your own core beliefs and do what you need to do to support yourself instead of constantly focusing on others. You have intrinsic value and deserve a life where you are protected from burnout.


    Tune into this week’s #straightfromcait episode for a wrap-up of Season 4. Learn to stop criticizing coping mechanisms that your body created to protect you, stop sacrificing your core values for others, and build healthy boundaries to keep yourself safe.


    Quotes

    • “I am here to celebrate the best parts of you and remind you how great you are whether you’re freshly burnt out and it is your first time here or you’re long time recovered and you’re just here to keep up.” (2:01-2:12)

    • “There is a platinum rule when you are working with a FRIED. Burnout Coach: there will be no demonizing of your behaviors, coping mechanisms, or habits. Yes, even the shitty ones. There are usually reasons that you behave in one way or another and most of the time behaviors that you engage in at some point had a positive intention or effect, or they were created without attention and intention as a result of someone else’s behavior when you were a child. What we do focus on is the fact that some of these behaviors leave you vulnerable to burnout, especially if you’re in shitty or toxic environments, whether those be work or home.” (2:20-3:14)

    • “Where do you want to apply your perfectionism and where can you let it go because it’s based on someone else’s standards or values that don’t match your own?” (5:14-5:22)

    • “That’s how we #endburnoutculture. When we all return to our core values over and over and over again.” (5:53-6:01)

    • “You are not broken. You have power. You have power to utilize your gifts in a way that is supportive and useful for you and others. The parts of you that you judge have gold nuggets in them. Burnout recovery does not require that you fundamentally change who you are, but rather become more of who you are within limits that you set for yourself to keep you safe, healthy, and protected.” (6:56-7:23)

    • “You have so much to offer simply by existing. You just might need to allow the rules of the game to shift a little instead of constantly trying to change yourself.” (8:12-8:24)


    Links

    https://caitdonovan.com

    https://friedtheburnoutpodcast.com


    XOXO,

    C


    If you know that it’s time to actually DO something about the burnout cycle you’ve been in for too long - book your free consult today: bit.ly/callcait


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