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    Free as in Freedom

    A bi-weekly discussion of legal, policy, and other issues in the open source and software freedom community (including occasional interviews) from Brooklyn, New York, USA. Presented by Karen Sandler and Bradley M. Kuhn.

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    0x63: Can Anyone Live in Full Software Freedom Today? (Part IV) Mar 20, 2019
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    In their final installment regarding their joint keynote at FOSDEM 2019, entitled: Can Anyone Live in Full Software Freedom Today?: Confessions of Activists Who Try But Fail to Avoid Proprietary Software, you listeners can hear the final product — a recording of the actual FOSDEM keynote. Afterwards, Karen and Bradley compare notes on what went wrong and what went right (but mostly what went wrong) during the talk.

    Show Notes:

    Segment 0 (00:00:35)

    Bradley and Karen talk logistics of how the talk is embedded in the audio.

    Segment 1 (00:04:14)

    The audio in this segment taken directly from the video of Karen and Bradley's FOSDEM 2019 opening keynote, entitled Can Anyone Live in Full Software Freedom Today? Confessions of Activists Who Try But Fail to Avoid Proprietary Software, which was given . If you'd rather watch the video, you can do so via FSODEM's video site in either webm format or in mp4 format.

    Segment 2 (00:46:01)

    • Karen mentioned “time shifting”, which was permitted for the public, despite accusations of copyright infringement, in the Betamax case. (55:10)

    Segment 3 (01:05:31)

    Karen and Bradley mention that the next episode will be an interview with Dan Lynch recorded at CopyleftConf 2019.

    Send feedback and comments on the cast to <oggcast@faif.us>. You can keep in touch with Free as in Freedom on our IRC channel, #faif on irc.freenode.net, and by following Conservancy on identi.ca and and Twitter.

    Free as in Freedom is produced by Dan Lynch of danlynch.org. Theme music written and performed by Mike Tarantino with Charlie Paxson on drums.

    Creative Commons License The content of this audcast, and the accompanying show notes and music are licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-Share-Alike 4.0 license (CC BY-SA 4.0).


    0x62: Can Anyone Live in Full Software Freedom Today? (Part III) Mar 12, 2019
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    Bradley and Karen have the last pre-talk installment of discussing the preparation for their joint keynote at FOSDEM 2019, entitled: Can Anyone Live in Full Software Freedom Today?: Confessions of Activists Who Try But Fail to Avoid Proprietary Software. This episode is the third of three episodes where Bradley and Karen record their preparation conversations for this keynote address. In this particular episode, they discuss the issue of letting others use proprietary software on your behalf, the problem of relying too much on that, and then finish up discussing with how they'll include this material into the final talk.

    Show Notes:

    Segment 0 (00:34)

    • Karen discussed the idea of a shabbos goy, and the analogy between that and allowing other people use proprietary on your behalf. (02:58)
    • Bradley and Karen discussed that it is equally abhorrent to ask someone else to use proprietary software for you as it is to use yourself, since someone's software freedom is compromised in any event (06:58)
    • Bradley mentioned that he had previously applied to serve on the USA's Internal Revenue Service (IRS)'s Electronic Tax Administration Advisory Committee (ETAAC). Bradley mentioned how sadly the IRS typically accepts people from proprietary software companies like Intuit but has to his knowledge never accepted anyone involved in FOSS software for IRS form preparation (10:02)
    • Bradley mentioned the Free Software PDF fill-in tools evince and flpsed (12:24)
    • Karen stated that Conservancy's policy is that: We care so much about software freedom that we would rather use proprietary software than have someone else lose their software freedom. (15:20)
    • Karen mentioned that her Linux Conf Australia 2019, Right to Not Broadcast, which you can view online. (22:18)

    Segment 1 (23:15)

    • Bradley mentioned the A-Team line, “I love it when a plan comes together”. (23:23)
    • Bradley and Karen generally discuss the final plans for incorporating this material into the keynote

    Send feedback and comments on the cast to <oggcast@faif.us>. You can keep in touch with Free as in Freedom on our IRC channel, #faif on irc.freenode.net, and by following Conservancy on identi.ca and and Twitter.

    Free as in Freedom is produced by Dan Lynch of danlynch.org. Theme music written and performed by Mike Tarantino with Charlie Paxson on drums.

    Creative Commons License The content of this audcast, and the accompanying show notes and music are licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-Share-Alike 4.0 license (CC BY-SA 4.0).


    0x61: Can Anyone Live in Full Software Freedom Today? (Part II) Feb 19, 2019
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    Bradley and Karen continue the process of preparing their joint keynote at FOSDEM 2019, entitled: Can Anyone Live in Full Software Freedom Today?: Confessions of Activists Who Try But Fail to Avoid Proprietary Software. This episode is the second of three episodes where Bradley and Karen record their preparation conversations for this keynote address. In this particular episode, they discuss the golden age in history when they used very little proprietary software, and then discuss the beginning of their personal Dark Ages of using some proprietary software.

    Show Notes:

    Segment 0 (00:35)

    • Bradley mentioned The Who's destruction of their instruments and his discomfort with it in relation to computers. (06:10)
    • Bradley and Karen mentioned their long-time use of the HTC Dream (07:30)
    • Bradley mentioned that he helped start the Replicant project, but his primary contribution was its name. (08:24)

    Segment 1 (12:34)

    • Karen mentioned the pinball machine that she owns. (12:50)
    • Bradley mentioned the Dead Kennedys album, Give Me Convenience or Give Me Death. (25:10)
    • Karen and Bradley discuss proprietary Javascript. (28:20)
    • This is the screen you get if you attempt to use Google maps without Javascript. (28:45) Karen was wrong about this image no longer appearing. The image linked to here is from the day before our FOSDEM keynote was delivered. (29:55)
    • Bradley and Karen recorded this episode while on site at LinuxConf Australia 2019. They had dinner the night this was recorded at a restaurant called, Dux Dine in Christchurch, NZ. There were, in fact, ducks dining at Dux Dine. (35:07)

    Send feedback and comments on the cast to <oggcast@faif.us>. You can keep in touch with Free as in Freedom on our IRC channel, #faif on irc.freenode.net, and by following Conservancy on identi.ca and and Twitter.

    Free as in Freedom is produced by Dan Lynch of danlynch.org. Theme music written and performed by Mike Tarantino with Charlie Paxson on drums.

    Creative Commons License The content of this audcast, and the accompanying show notes and music are licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-Share-Alike 4.0 license (CC BY-SA 4.0).


    0x60: Can Anyone Live in Full Software Freedom Today? (Part I) Jan 13, 2019
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    Bradley and Karen pull back the curtain and begin the process of preparing their joint keynote at FOSDEM 2019, entitled: Can Anyone Live in Full Software Freedom Today?: Confessions of Activists Who Try But Fail to Avoid Proprietary Software. This episode is the first of multiple episodes where Bradley and Karen record their preparation conversations for this keynote address.

    Show Notes:

    Segment 0 (00:36)

    Bradley and Karen discuss the plan to do prep for their FOSDEM keynote “on air” as part of FaiF broadcasts.

    Segment 1 (07:13)

    • Bradley read out the abstract from Bradley and Karen's keynote, Can Anyone Live in Full Software Freedom Today? Confessions of Activists Who Try But Fail to Avoid Proprietary Software at FOSDEM 2019. (circa 10:00)
    • This started for Bradley with the HTC Dream, and Karen's struggle started with her heart device (10:42)
    • Bradley and Karen discussed how they plan to organize their FOSDEM 2019 joint keynote.
    • Bradley mentioned that if Karen and Bradley recorded an episode of the two of them reading Lorem Ipsum that listeners would likely still listen. Karen disagreed. (33:05)

    Send feedback and comments on the cast to <oggcast@faif.us>. You can keep in touch with Free as in Freedom on our IRC channel, #faif on irc.freenode.net, and by following Conservancy on identi.ca and and Twitter.

    Free as in Freedom is produced by Dan Lynch of danlynch.org. Theme music written and performed by Mike Tarantino with Charlie Paxson on drums.

    Creative Commons License The content of this audcast, and the accompanying show notes and music are licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-Share-Alike 4.0 license (CC BY-SA 4.0).


    0x5F: Was 2018 the Year of Non-FOSS Licensing? Dec 31, 2018
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    Bradley and Karen return, as promised, in 2018 (just barely)! They discuss the many non-FOSS and otherwise software-freedom-unfriendly licenses that have been promulgated in 2018.

    Show Notes:

    Segment 0 (00:36)

    Bradley and Karen discuss ideas for what to do with the oggcast going forward.

    Segment 2 (07:49)

    • Bradley mentioned the field of endeavor restriction in Open Source Defintion. (09:20)
    • Bradley mentioned how badly Amazon treats its workers who pack boxes, which was widely reported this month (10:22).
    • Bradley referenced that someone changed attempted to change a license on a project to prohibit use by USA border protection agents. This was the Lerna project, and Bradley wrote a blog post about it earlier this year. (12:14)
    • Bradley mentioned the controversy about the new MongoDB license, the SS Public License, which Bradley also wrote a blog post about earlier this year (14:09)
    • karen reports that many people at the Sustain OSS Conference were surprised that sustaining the idelogy of software freedom was something that people value. (27:10)
    • Send feedback and comments on the cast to <oggcast@faif.us>. You can keep in touch with Free as in Freedom on our IRC channel, #faif on irc.freenode.net, and by following Conservancy on identi.ca and and Twitter.

      Free as in Freedom is produced by Dan Lynch of danlynch.org. Theme music written and performed by Mike Tarantino with Charlie Paxson on drums.

      Creative Commons License The content of this audcast, and the accompanying show notes and music are licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-Share-Alike 4.0 license (CC BY-SA 4.0).


    0x5E: Conservancy's ContractPatch Initiative Nov 01, 2016
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    Bradley and Karen discuss Conservancy's ContractPatch Initiative that will help Free Software developers negotiate their agreements with employers.

    Show Notes:

    Segment 0 (00:38)

    • Software Freedom Conservancy has two blog posts and a mailing list to discuss the Contract Patch initiative (02:40).
    • Bradley searched for the NPR story he mentioned but just couldn't find it, but he did fine a similar one covering terms of service agreements (08:30)
    • Karen mentioned the the Outreachy Project of Conservancy. (09:30)
    • The Google Map API ToS states that you have to pay for it after a certain amount of usage (17:30)
    • Bradley mentioned the book, What Color Is Your Parachute? (24:30)
    • The “put it in writing” commercials from AT&T and MCI. (46:44)

    Send feedback and comments on the cast to <oggcast@faif.us>. You can keep in touch with Free as in Freedom on our IRC channel, #faif on irc.freenode.net, and by following Conservancy on identi.ca and and Twitter.

    Free as in Freedom is produced by Dan Lynch of danlynch.org. Theme music written and performed by Mike Tarantino with Charlie Paxson on drums.

    Creative Commons License The content of this audcast, and the accompanying show notes and music are licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-Share-Alike 4.0 license (CC BY-SA 4.0).


    0x5D: Conference Report, 1st Half of 2016 Sep 21, 2016
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    Bradley and Karen discuss Conservancy's conference trips and presentations during the first half of 2016.

    Show Notes:

    Segment 0 (00:38)

    • Bradley attended and spoke at FOSDEM 2016 and LinuxConf Australia 2016 (03:10)
    • Bradley and Karen co-coordinated the FOSDEM 2016 Legal and Policy Issues DevRoom (04:43)
    • Tom Marble did an interview-format discussion with Richard M. Stallman at FOSDEM 2016 (04:55)
    • Bradley gave two talks at FOSDEM 2016, Copyleft For the Next Decade: A Comprehensive Plan for the GPL and A Beautiful Build: Releasing Linux Source Correctly (06:40)
    • Richard Fontana gave a talk at FOSDEM 2016 entitled Open source foundations: threat or menace? (08:15)
    • The Doge take on FOSDEM 2016 Legal and Policy Issues DevRoom was Much politics. Many peoples. (11:00)
    • There was a Conservancy Supporter event at the Novotel Grand Place in Brussels at FOSDEM 2016. (14:00)
    • Bradley gave a talk at LCA 2016. (15:20)
    • Karen gave the closing keynote at LibrePlanet 2016, entitled Companies, free software, and you . (16:54)
    • Karen Sandler gave a talk at the Linux Foundation's Embedded Linux Conference 2016 entitled Tales of Enforcement (27:00)
    • Karen gave a talk at at the Postgres Conference in New York. (34:26)
    • Bradley and Karen were both on a panels at OSCON. (35:00)
    • Bradley and Karen flipped burgers (vegan ones and otherwise) at the OSCON 2016 party. (39:30)
    • Bradley gave a keynote at OSS 2016. (45:05)
    • Bradley spoke at two user groups in Norway as well. He hasn't made the blog post he mentioned yet, but plans to. (45:50)
    • Karen mentioned Episode 0x4A which discussed the OpenStack CLA debate. (50:50)

    Send feedback and comments on the cast to <oggcast@faif.us>. You can keep in touch with Free as in Freedom on our IRC channel, #faif on irc.freenode.net, and by following Conservancy on identi.ca and and Twitter.

    Free as in Freedom is produced by Dan Lynch of danlynch.org. Theme music written and performed by Mike Tarantino with Charlie Paxson on drums.

    Creative Commons License The content of this audcast, and the accompanying show notes and music are licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-Share-Alike 4.0 license (CC BY-SA 4.0).


    0x5C: Basic FLOSS Concepts: Licensing 101 Sep 02, 2016
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    Bradley and Karen give a basic introduction of copyright licensing of Open Source and Free Software.

    Show Notes:

    Segment 0 (00:35)

    • Bradley mentioned the phrase “fixed in a tangible medium” which appears in the USA copyright law. (03:10)
    • Bradley mentioned the Sherman Antitrust act. (04:05)
    • Bradley mentioned the card game Pit (04:15)
    • Bradley jokingly quoted Mit Romney's famous gaffe, “Corporations are people, my friend.” (04:44)
    • Bradley read Title 17, the USA Copyright act many times. (06:50)
    • Bradley mentioned the court case, UNIX System Laboratories, Inc. v. Berkeley Software Design, Inc., which resulted in releasing the parts of BSD that could be Free Software. (12:27)
    • Bradley mentioned the FSF's Free Software Definition (13:11)
    • Bradley mentioned OSI's Open Source Definition (13:16)
    • Apparently, the problem of categorization is called Categorization in Philosophy. (14:30)
    • The issue of Open Source not being trademarked is discussed in this essay by Richard Stallman. (15:44)
    • The basic categorizations of types of FLOSS licenses are copyleft and non-copyleft.
    • Karen suggests reading GPLv2 and GPLv3. (39:31)
    • Bradley made a crude drawing of the spectrum of licenses. (40:20)
    • Bradley mentioned the The Principles of Community-Oriented GPL Enforcement (55:40)

    Send feedback and comments on the cast to <oggcast@faif.us>. You can keep in touch with Free as in Freedom on our IRC channel, #faif on irc.freenode.net, and by following Conservancy on identi.ca and and Twitter.

    Free as in Freedom is produced by Dan Lynch of danlynch.org. Theme music written and performed by Mike Tarantino with Charlie Paxson on drums.

    Creative Commons License The content of this audcast, and the accompanying show notes and music are licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-Share-Alike 4.0 license (CC BY-SA 4.0).


    0x59: Audio Killed the Video Star Aug 18, 2016
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    Bradley and Karen discuss the plan for restarting Free as in Freedom and plans for episodes to come.

    Show Notes:

    Segment 0 (00:36)

    • Bradley said in the before time — in the long long ago, which is a reference to the South Park parody of the ST:TOS episode, Miri (01:30)
    • Bradley mentioned when Karen Sandler left the GNOME Foundation and took over Bradley's old job as Executive Director of Conservancy. (02:20)
    • Karen mentioned that Bradley used to be Executive Director of the Free Software Foundation, a position now held by John Sullivan. (03:25)
    • Dan blogged about his illness, details of scheduling surgery, which he occurred successfully. (10:28)
    • Karen mentioned the Conservancy Supporter program discussed in detail on Episode 0x57. (12:40)
    • Bradley mentioned the short lived Jon Masters Linux Kernel Mailing List Summary Podcast. (14:45)
    • Karen and Bradley discussed Video Killed the Radio Star by the Buggles, and Bradley attempted to mention this version which he likes better. (17:36)
    • Bradley mentioned Kantian Ethics (20:05)
    • Bradley mentioned the Portlanda skit, Rent it Out from S04E02 (20:24)
    • Karen mentioned WellDeserved: A Marketplace for Privilege (20:38)

    Send feedback and comments on the cast to <oggcast@faif.us>. You can keep in touch with Free as in Freedom on our IRC channel, #faif on irc.freenode.net, and by following Conservancy on identi.ca and and Twitter.

    Free as in Freedom is produced by Dan Lynch of danlynch.org. Theme music written and performed by Mike Tarantino with Charlie Paxson on drums.

    Creative Commons License The content of this audcast, and the accompanying show notes and music are licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-Share-Alike 4.0 license (CC BY-SA 4.0).


    0x58: Debian Copyright Aggregation Jul 14, 2016
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    Bradley and Karen discuss Conservancy's Debian Copyright Aggregation project. (Note: While it was released just after DebConf16, this episode was recorded well before DebConf16; the discussions about DebConf refer to DebConf15.)

    Show Notes:

    Segment 0 (00:38)

    Note: While it was released just after DebConf16, this episode was recorded well before DebConf16; the discussions about DebConf refer to DebConf15.

    • Bradley mentioned his talk at DebConf. This was recorded before DebConf 16, so Bradley is talking about DebConf 15, which was summarized in this blog post and his keynote from DebConf15. A video of that talk is available. (02:00)
    • Bradley mentioned this bug about the copyright notice on the Debian website (07:47)
    • Ian Jackson asked about bequeathing copyright at Bradley's talk. (15:45)

    Send feedback and comments on the cast to <oggcast@faif.us>. You can keep in touch with Free as in Freedom on our IRC channel, #faif on irc.freenode.net, and by following Conservancy on identi.ca and and Twitter.

    Free as in Freedom is produced by Dan Lynch of danlynch.org. Theme music written and performed by Mike Tarantino with Charlie Paxson on drums.

    Creative Commons License The content of this audcast, and the accompanying show notes and music are licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-Share-Alike 4.0 license (CC BY-SA 4.0).


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