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    Government

    ellisconversations’s podcast

    In this podcast, Jamil Ellis talks with his father, retired Federal Magistrate Judge Ronald Ellis, about the historical role of law in shaping the societal structures which act as barriers to attaining the American dream. They discuss why “legal” is not a synonym for “moral” and why law, a prime actor in creating the problems, can and should be a part of the solution. Join them as they talk about wealth, voting, education, criminal justice and other topics which divide the nation.

    https://ellisconversations.tumblr.com/

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    Latest Episodes:
    Bending the Arc Towards Justice: Next Steps Nov 03, 2020
    Show notes

    EPISODE SUMMARY

    After completing one year of discussions about history, societal realities, and legal frameworks, the hosts reflect on next steps. Pack the Court? End the filibuster? If you get the power to establish reforms without the need for the other side, is there reason to be cautious when the changes are beneficial to the whole? Majority rule sounds a lot better when you're not in the minority.

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    https://www.npr.org/podcasts/512646501/innovation-hub - Can you reinvent the Supreme Court https://www.brookings.edu/blog/fixgov/2018/06/04/senate-obstructionism-handed-judicial-vacancies-to-trump/ https://www.npr.org/2020/07/30/897345000/obama-suggests-eliminating-the-senates-filibuster


    The Hands That Rock The Cradle: Donald Trump, the Supreme Court, and the Federalist Society. Oct 13, 2020
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    EPISODE SUMMARY

    In 2016, Donald Trump promised to cede his Constitutional duty to appoint Supreme Court justices to the Federalist Society. In this episode, the hosts discuss the influence and motivation of this organization, whose origin and rise is explored in the 2019 PBS Frontline episode "Supreme Revenge."

    A FEW KEY TAKEAWAYS FROM THIS EPISODE

    • Knowing the background of The Federalist Society and how that plays into this landscape.
    • References to several cases, such as Brown vs. Board of Education, Bolling vs. Sharpe, and Lucy vs. Adams
    • The unequal balance of state and federal levels.

    Transcript coming soon.

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    https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/film/supreme-revenge/

    https://www.npr.org/2018/06/28/624416666/what-is-the-federalist-society-and-how-does-it-affect-supreme-court-

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/magazine/wp/2019/01/02/feature/conquerors-of-the-courts/

    OTHER EPISODES OF INTEREST

    Brown vs. Board of Education


    The Power of Judicial Dissent: Justice Ginsburg and the Promise of a Better Tomorrow Sep 30, 2020
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    EPISODE SUMMARY

    "I like to think most of my dissents will be the law someday," Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg told a lecture audience in 2015. In this episode, the hosts discuss the important role of reasoned dissents at the Supreme Court. Justice Ginsburg continued and refined a tradition championed by Justices Thurgood Marshall and John Marshall Harlan of pointing out the failure of majority opinions to accurately reflect the real-world truths underlying the cases before them. These dissenters understood that the Constitution, like society, continues to evolve, and that putting the truth out there, can foster this progress.

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    The Tyranny of Compromise Sep 18, 2020
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    Photo Credit: Library of Congress Prints & Photographs Division, public domain

    EPISODE SUMMARY

    In this episode, the hosts discuss how parties misuse power to pervert the mechanism of compromise. Rather than reaching a result that is in the best interests of the persons affected, one side chooses to capitulate to unreasonable or immoral demands. The true tragedy of Congress is not simply that it often fails to act but that, when it does, principles are sacrificed on the altar of political expediency.

    A FEW KEY TAKEAWAYS FROM THIS EPISODE

    • Some great compromises throughout history starting with the constitution
    • Slavery, bondage and the 1877 Compromise
    • The debate on COVID relief and bargaining other people's money

    To download the transcript, CLICK HERE

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    Colfax Massacre

    1876 Campaign

    Hamburg Massacre

    Compromise of 1877.

    OTHER EPISODES OF INTEREST

    Climate Justice (TBD)

    The Role of Government's Representatives


    Finding the Real Kamala Harris: Black Women, Politics, and Stereotypes Aug 27, 2020
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    EPISODE SUMMARY

    In this episode, the hosts discuss how Black women face dual challenges at the intersection of race and gender bias in our society, particularly when they seek positions of power and influence.

    In politics, the opponent often foregoes the complexity of actual issues in favor of the simplicity of caricatures, buzz-words, or one-dimensional labels.

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    Different language used for men and women

    https://hbr.org/2018/05/the-different-words-we-use-to-describe-male-and-female-leaders

    Women in the modern Civil Rights Movement

    https://nmaahc.si.edu/sites/default/files/images/black_women_civil_rights_movement_5.pdf

    Michelle Obama labeled angry Black woman

    https://time.com/4606458/michelle-obama-angry-black-woman-label-oprah/

    Ida B. Wells Biography

    https://www.biography.com/activist/ida-b-wells

    Overcoming the angry Black woman stereotype

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/janicegassam/2019/05/31/overcoming-the-angry-black-woman-stereotype/#586d83541fce

    This short segment talks about the 19th Amendment being a white project. Black women were disadvantaged even as the country was celebrating a victory for democracy.

    https://www.npr.org/2020/08/26/904730251/yes-women-could-vote-after-the-19th-amendment-but-not-all-women-or-men

    Barbara Jordan Nixon Impeachment speech

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrqVBclJVco

    Shirley Chisholm Biographies:

    https://www.womenshistory.org/education-resources/biographies/shirley-chisholm

    https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smithsonian-institution/unbought-and-unbossed-when-black-woman-ran-for-the-white-house-180958699/

    Kamala Harris' voting record

    https://www.govtrack.us/congress/members/kamala_harris/412678


    Justice Dismayed Aug 13, 2020
    Show notes

    Photo by AP Photo

    EPISODE SUMMARY

    In this episode, the hosts discuss ideas attributed to Clarence Thomas in a recent book. The topics run the gamut from the efficacy of affirmative action and voting rights to the possibility of capitalism and the Second Amendment being the keys to Black liberation and empowerment. Does Thomas have an unrecognized Black nationalist plan to overcome white supremacy?

    A FEW KEY TAKEAWAYS FROM THIS EPISODE

    • If we had let the free market work, wealth would've been easier for Blacks to create.
    • You can't cherry pick examples of success with Black athletes, for example, and apply it to the whole to say that the "system" is working.
    • Looking back at historic systemic racism

    Transcript coming soon

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    https://www.wnycstudios.org/podcasts/otm/segments/supreme-court-justice-most-say

    OTHER EPISODES OF INTEREST

    TBD


    Protest, Narrative, and the Pursuit of Justice Jul 31, 2020
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    EPISODE SUMMARY

    In this episode, the hosts explore the dynamics of narrative control, how forces within our system use power and influence to redirect discussions about social issues. We wind up talking more about how we protest than why we're protesting. This process limits our ability to effect change and allows injustice and intolerance to persist in the chaos created.

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    Letter from Birmingham Jail - https://kinginstitute.stanford.edu/king-papers/documents/letter-birmingham-jail

    Harper's Open Letter - https://harpers.org/a-letter-on-justice-and-open-debate/

    Reaction to Harper's Letter

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/10/arts/open-letter-debate.html

    https://www.theatlantic.com/culture/archive/2020/07/harpers-letter-free-speech/614080/


    Ellis Conversations on LaMaMa Livetalks Jul 07, 2020
    Show notes

    EPISODE SUMMARY La MaMa presents La MaMa LiveTalks, conversations with artists, activists and thought leaders from around the country and around the world who join in discussions about art and life in times of crisis. The hosts of Ellis Conversations, Jamil Ellis and his father, retired Federal Magistrate Judge Ronald Ellis, discuss their podcast on the historical role of law in shaping the societal structures which act as barriers to attaining the American dream. They discuss why "legal" is not a synonym for "moral" and why law, a prime actor in creating the problems, can and should be a part of the solution.

    They are joined by CEO and founder of VoteAmerica, Debra Cleaver, as they discuss their recent episode on efforts to remove barriers to voting in America, ranging from the recent Wisconsin primary to the district court decision in the Florida felon enfranchisement case to the importance of vote by mail programs for the 2020 Elections.

    Join them for a lively discussion as they discuss their latest episode on voting as well as some highlights from the series which has been increasingly relevant as the country grapples with race relations in 2020.

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    Role of Protest in Fostering Change Jun 12, 2020
    Show notes

    EPISODE SUMMARY

    In this episode, the hosts discuss the role of protest in fostering change and the limits of using courts to address systemic problems. They also explore how the success of protests often depends on the ability to rally popular support for the cause while avoiding attempts to redirect the narrative.

    LINKS IN THIS EPISODE

    Letter from Birmingham Jail https://kinginstitute.stanford.edu/king-papers/documents/letter-birmingham-jail

    Clergy letter to King https://swap.stanford.edu/20141218230016/http://mlk-kpp01.stanford.edu/kingweb/popular_requests/frequentdocs/clergy.pdf

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    OTHER EPISODES OF INTEREST

    Affirmative Action: How We Got To Now

    John Lewis Voting Rights Act

    Martin Luther King: Waiting On His Dream


    Voting rights with Debra Cleaver from VoteAmerica Jun 07, 2020
    Show notes

    EPISODE SUMMARY

    In this episode, the hosts are joined by Debra Cleaver, Founder and CEO of VoteAmerica. The conversation includes a discussion of efforts to remove barriers to voting in America, ranging from the recent Wisconsin primary to the district court decision in the Florida felon enfranchisement case to the importance of vote by mail programs for the 2020 Elections.

    LINKS IN THIS EPISODE

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