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    ellisconversations’s podcast

    In this podcast, Jamil Ellis talks with his father, retired Federal Magistrate Judge Ronald Ellis, about the historical role of law in shaping the societal structures which act as barriers to attaining the American dream. They discuss why “legal” is not a synonym for “moral” and why law, a prime actor in creating the problems, can and should be a part of the solution. Join them as they talk about wealth, voting, education, criminal justice and other topics which divide the nation.

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    Criminal Justice: What you lose May 12, 2020
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    EPISODE SUMMARY

    In this episode, the hosts discuss the efforts in Florida to restore the right to vote for more than one million former felons even after the citizens there voted to amend the state's constitution to achieve that result. They also explore other collateral effects of having a felony record, including the inability to serve on juries or in the military, get licensed for certain jobs, or receive government help; restrictions on housing and adoption; and prohibition of owning a firearm. Even if you are a permanent resident, you may be deported. These burdens often last a lifetime and disproportionately affect poor and minority individuals caught in the system.

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    https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/criminal-disenfranchisement-laws-across-united-states

    https://nysba.org/app/uploads/2020/02/BaerCollateralConsequences-WEB.pdf

    https://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/florida-public-schools-fail-to-teach-black-history-and-the-horrors-of-slavery-11297743

    https://www.tampabay.com/florida-politics/buzz/2018/12/13/ron-desantis-says-amendment-4-should-be-delayed-until-he-signs-bill-from-lawmakers/

    https://www.wlrn.org/post/felons-might-have-pay-hundreds-millions-being-able-vote-florida#stream/0

    https://www.themarshallproject.org/2018/08/20/jim-crow-s-lasting-legacy-at-the-ballot-box


    Criminal Justice - The Right to Trial Apr 24, 2020
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    Photo by Tingey Injury Law Firm on Unsplash

    EPISODE SUMMARY

    In this episode, the hosts discuss the perils of exercising the right to trial. Public defenders don't exist everywhere, and where they do, they are overworked and underfunded. Prosecutors fail to disclose evidence helpful to defendants and use peremptory challenges to affect jury composition. Jury verdicts are rarely overturned. Ninety-five percent of the 11-14 million persons arrested each year in the U.S. plead guilty, and this may be the rational choice.

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    Some Related Links: https://www.drugwarfacts.org/node/235#overlay=table/total_arrests - Stats on arrests across the country. https://wtkr.com/2018/12/22/one-innocent-man-gets-six-years-for-murder-the-other-life/ https://www.abajournal.com/magazine/article/harmless_error_new_study_claims_prosecutorial_misconduct_rampant https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/04/supreme-court-ramos-v-louisiana-juries-opinion.html - We recorded this podcast before the Supreme court made a decision effecting Split jury verdicts in Louisiana and Oregon

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    Criminal Justice First Encounters

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    Criminal Justice - Legal Lynching


    Criminal Justice - Legal Lynching Apr 11, 2020
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    Photo by Gayatri Malhotra on Unsplash EPISODE SUMMARY

    In this episode, the hosts discuss the country's legacy of racial terror as embodied in lynchings of Blacks by white supremacist groups such as the KKK; how these efforts were designed to maintain racial apartheid by force and intimidation; and how they are related to the use of the criminal justice system and capital punishment statutes in efforts to legally lynch the Scottsboro Boys and the Groveland Boys.

    LINKS IN THIS EPISODE

    Equal Justice Initiative - Lynching in America - https://eji.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/lynching-in-america-3d-ed-080219.pdf

    Groveland Boys (PBS - Free) - https://www.pbs.org/video/the-groveland-four-uid8r2/

    Scottsboro Boys ($) - https://www.amazon.com/Trials-Scottsboro-Boys/dp/B07F26V4XC/ref=sr_1_3?crid=39WLGM6EXMUQE&dchild=1&keywords=scottsboro+boys+an+american+tragedy&qid=1586636092&sprefix=scottsobo%2Caps%2C152&sr=8-3

    Lafourche Country (where Judge Ellis grew up) - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lafourche_Parish,_Louisiana

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    Criminal Justice First Encounters

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    Criminal Justice - All about Bail Mar 31, 2020
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    EPISODE SUMMARY

    In this episode, the hosts discuss the perils of a monetary bail system in a society where as many as three-fourths of families are living paycheck-to-paycheck. The lack of accumulated wealth exacerbates the racial disparities in the criminal legal system and impairs the ability of accused persons to defend themselves when charged with crimes. Recent efforts by New York and other states seek to address these issues.

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    OTHER EPISODES OF INTEREST

    Criminal Justice First Encounters

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    Criminal Justice - Legal Lynching


    Epidemics, Race, and Healthcare - COVID-19 Mar 25, 2020
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    In this episode, the hosts discuss why general protocols and algorithms aimed at COVID-19 have the potential to negatively impact healthcare outcomes in uninsured and under-insured communities of color. Myths about Black physical characteristics persist, even among medical students: Black skin is thicker; Blacks are more tolerant of pain; Blacks have stronger immune systems. As medical triage becomes necessary, what false beliefs will misinform those making decisions at the policy level and on the front lines?

    Urban League Article - https://nul.org/news/coronavirus-crisis-highlights-racial-disparity-healthcare-and-economy

    1918 Epidemic Article - https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2862340/

    Medical Student survey article - https://www.statnews.com/2016/04/04/medical-students-beliefs-race-pain/


    Criminal Justice - First Encounters Mar 14, 2020
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    In this episode, the hosts discuss the critical role which subjective observations play during initial encounters with law enforcement. Combined with legal rules which allow officers to "tailor" testimony, this subjectivity has had negative impacts on groups perceived as suspects, and caused tensions between police and minority communities.

    A violent first encounter for a young black man -https://twitter.com/TheVelvetRope__/status/1235391987332702208


    Criminal Justice - First Encounters Mar 14, 2020
    Show notes

    In this episode, the hosts discuss the critical role which subjective observations play during initial encounters with law enforcement. Combined with legal rules which allow officers to "tailor" testimony, this subjectivity has had negative impacts on groups perceived as suspects, and caused tensions between police and minority communities.

    A violent first encounter for a young black man -https://twitter.com/TheVelvetRope__/status/1235391987332702208


    Criminal Justice - First Encounters Mar 14, 2020
    Show notes

    In this episode, the hosts discuss the critical role which subjective observations play during initial encounters with law enforcement. Combined with legal rules which allow officers to "tailor" testimony, this subjectivity has had negative impacts on groups perceived as suspects, and caused tensions between police and minority communities.

    A violent first encounter for a young black man -https://twitter.com/TheVelvetRope__/status/1235391987332702208


    Criminal Justice Mar 06, 2020
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    Photo by Matt Popovich on Unsplash

    EPISODE SUMMARY

    In this episode, the hosts begin a series of discussions on the Criminal Justice System. This introduction looks at the historical, philosophical, and societal factors which combine to tip the scales at multiple stages. From arrest to post-conviction, poor and minority individuals find it hard to avoid being dragged in – and even harder to escape.

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    A FEW KEY TAKEAWAYS FROM THIS EPISODE

    • Poorly implemented artificial intelligence and technology can have a disproportionately negative effect on marginalized groups.
    • There are some people who view the criminal justice system as basically the guardian of society. And so, being a guardian of society, you look at the consequences of the things you put in place versus the not having those things in place.

    • They criminal justice system got fixated on looking at a time when the crime, statistics, statistics were going down, but they placed very little value on what was happening to the communities.
    LINKS IN THIS EPISODE

    Link to introductory story of arrest of 6 year old - https://www.tampabay.com/news/florida/2020/02/25/body-camera-video-shows-6-year-old-orlando-girl-arrested-at-school/

    MLK - Letter for a Birmingham Jail -https://kinginstitute.stanford.edu/king-papers/documents/letter-birmingham-jail

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    Criminal Justice First Encounters

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    Voting Rights - Shelby to North Carolina to 2020 Feb 21, 2020
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    EPISODE SUMMARY

    In this episode, the hosts discuss the aftermath of the Supreme Court's Shelby County case (which gutted Section 5 of the Voting Rights Act) and what policies and practices pose a present and future danger to the fundamental right to vote - voter roll purges, voter ID laws, false narratives of voter fraud.

    A FEW KEY TAKEAWAYS FROM THIS EPISODE

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    The Voting Rights Act


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