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    Democracy Paradox

    Is it possible for a democracy to govern undemocratically? Can the people elect an undemocratic leader? Is it possible for democracy to bring about authoritarianism? And if so, what does this say about democracy? ​​My name is Justin Kempf. Every week I talk to the brightest minds on subjects like international relations, political theory, and history to explore democracy from every conceivable angle. Topics like civil resistance, authoritarian successor parties, and the autocratic middle class challenge our ideas about democracy. Join me as we unravel new topics every week.

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    Guillermo Trejo and Sandra Ley on the Political Logic of Criminal Wars in Mexico Sep 21, 2021
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    Up to today, since the Mexican government deployed the military in 2006 up to the present, Mexico has experienced close to 200,000 battle deaths. That's roughly the number of battle deaths that took place in the civil war in Guatemala. So, the 36 year old civil war in Guatemala that produced approximately 200,000 battle deaths. That's where Mexico is right now.
    Guillermo Trejo
    A full transcript is available at www.democracyparadox.com or a brief primer on Mexican politics here.
    Guillermo Trejo is an Associate Professor at the University of Notre Dame. Sandra Ley is an Assistant Professor at CIDE’s Political Studies Division in Mexico City. They are the authors of Votes, Drugs, and Violence: The Political Logic of Criminal Wars in Mexico.


    Key Highlights Include

    • A vivid description of the effects of the criminal wars in Mexico
    • How autocracy allows for the proliferation of organized crime
    • Why Mexico remains an 'illiberal democracy'
    • How polarization exacerbated criminal violence in Mexico
    • The importance of deeper degrees of democratization


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    Votes, Drugs, and Violence: The Political Logic of Criminal Wars in Mexico by Guillermo Trejo and Sandra Ley

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    Rana Siu Inboden on China and the International Human Rights Regime Sep 14, 2021
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    Chinese participation in the human rights regime probably was never really intended to alter human rights so much in China that it would jeopardize the Chinese Communist Party’s hold on power. I think China, even if it may have been open to some areas of human rights, I think that we have to keep in mind that the full implementation of human rights including all of the elements of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights would mean that political competition is allowed. And that's just not something I see the current Chinese regime allowing.
    Rana Siu Inboden
    A full transcript is available at www.democracyparadox.com or a brief primer on the human rights regime here.
    Rana Siu Inboden is a senior fellow with the Robert Strauss Center for International Security and Law at the University of Texas–Austin. Her new book is China and the International Human Rights Regime: 1982-2017.
    Key Highlights Include

    • What is the Human Rights Regime
    • China's Participation in the Human Rights Regime
    • How Tiananmen Changed China's View on Human Rights
    • What is the Like Minded Group
    • How China Views Human Rights


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    China and the International Human Rights Regime: 1982-2017 by Rana Siu Inboden

    China at the UN: Choking Civil Society by Rana Siu Inboden in Journal of Democracy

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    Mareike Ohlberg on the Global Influence of the Chinese Communist Party

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    Timothy Frye Says Putin is a Weak Strongman Sep 07, 2021
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    Putin in the past could claim to have won at least an honest plurality, if not an honest majority of votes given his approval. However, in the upcoming election this fall, in September, it looks like the Kremlin has so restricted political competition that it's going to be a difficult sell to the Russian public to show that these elections are even as legitimate as the elections held in 2016 or in 2011.

    Timothy Frye
    A full transcript is available at www.democracyparadox.com or a brief primer on personalism here.
    Timothy Frye is a Professor of Post-Soviet Foreign Policy at Columbia University and a research director at the Higher School of Economics in Moscow.
    Key Highlights Include

    • Is Putin's popularity real?
    • Why Russia holds elections at all
    • Description of Russia as a personalist autocracy
    • How autocracy shapes Russia's foreign policy
    • What are the prospects for democratization in Russia


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    Weak Strongman: The Limits of Power in Putin's Russia by Timothy Frye

    Russia's Weak Strongman: The Perilous Bargains That Keep Putin in Power by Timothy Frye in Foreign Affairs

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    Kathryn Stoner on Russia's Economy, Politics, and Foreign Policy Aug 31, 2021
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    Biden's current policy is, you know, we want Putin to calm down, be stable for awhile and turn our focus to restraining China. I don't think that's going to happen. That's not in his interest to do that. So, I think taking our eye off Russia, underestimating it, is the biggest concern for the U.S. currently.

    Kathryn Stoner
    A full transcript is available at www.democracyparadox.com or a brief primer on Russia here.
    Kathryn Stoner is a professor of political science at Stanford University. Her new book is Russia Resurrected: Its Power and Purpose in a New Global Order.
    Key Highlights Include

    • A description of Russia's economy
    • An account of Russia's military reforms
    • Why Russia is in the Middle East
    • Explanation of Russia's foreign policy
    • Is a resurrected Russia a danger to the West?


    Key Links

    Russia Resurrected: Its Power and Purpose in a New Global Order by Kathryn Stoner

    The Freeman Spogli Institute For International Studies

    Follow Kathryn Stoner on Twitter @kath_stoner

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    Karen Greenberg on the War on Terror, Donald Trump, and American Democracy Aug 24, 2021
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    It was an era in which lawmakers and office holders learned that imprecision could actually work to their benefit to allow them to do what they wanted to because there was unclear codification in the law. And so yes, everybody talks about, we have to revise this law or get rid of this law or replace this law. But I want to say, it's not about that. It's about what constitutes a legitimately written, voted upon law. And I think that's something we still haven't countered since 9/11.

    Karen Greenberg
    A full transcript is available at www.democracyparadox.com or a brief primer on the War on Terror here.
    Karen Greenberg is the director of the Center on National Security at Fordham Law, a fellow at New America, and a member of the Council on Foreign Relations. Her new book is Subtle Tools: The Dismantling of American Democracy from the War on Terror to Donald Trump.
    Key Highlights Include

    • The origin of the AUMF and the Department of Homeland Security
    • Karen Greenberg describes the subtle tools
    • The link between the War on Terror and President Trump
    • How will history view the 2020 election
    • Is the United States an illiberal democracy?


    Key Links

    Subtle Tools: The Dismantling of American Democracy from the War on Terror to Donald Trump by Karen Greenberg

    Vital Interests Podcast with Karen Greenberg

    Follow Karen Greenberg on Twitter @KarenGreenberg3

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    Charles Kupchan on America's Tradition of Isolationism

    Can America Preserve Democracy without Retreating from it? Robert C. Lieberman on the Four Threats

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    Charles Kupchan on America's Tradition of Isolationism Aug 17, 2021
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    Beginning in the 1990s, and then really picking up after 9/11, the United States overreached ideologically by thinking it could turn Iraq and Afghanistan into Ohio. It overreached economically by throwing open the nation's doors and saying the more trade, the better. And suddenly, I think, Americans said to themselves and to their leaders, ‘Wait a minute. Too much world, not enough America.'

    Charles Kupchan
    A full transcript is available at www.democracyparadox.com or a brief primer on Isolationism here.
    Charles Kupchan is a professor of international relations at Georgetown University and a Senior Fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations. He is also the author of Isolationism: A History of America's Efforts to Shield Itself from the World.
    Key Highlights Include

    • Isolationism's Place in America's National Identity
    • The Relationship Between Isolationism and American Exceptionalism
    • A Brief History of Isolationism in the United States
    • Similarities Between the Rise of China and the Early United States
    • Donald Trump and the Reemergence of Isolationism


    Key Links

    Isolationism: A History of America's Efforts to Shield Itself from the World by Charles Kupchan

    Learn more about Charles Kupchan

    "The Home Front: Why an Internationalist Foreign Policy Needs a Stronger Domestic Foundation" an article by Charles Kupchan in Foreign Affairs

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    John Ikenberry on Liberal Internationalism

    Alexander Cooley and Daniel Nexon on the End of American Hegemony

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    Aldo Madariaga on Neoliberalism, Democratic Deficits, and Chile Aug 10, 2021
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    It's not just inequality of wealth. It is not just inequality of income, which is big. It's also inequality in terms of the geographical clustering of different strata of the population, of different people. It's inequality in life experiences. It's inequality in treatment. People felt mistreated by those in the upper echelons of society. So, it's not just money. It's also access to public goods, to certain spaces in the city, to education, unemployment benefits, and all sorts of things. But also, treatment.

    Aldo Madariaga
    A full transcript is available at www.democracyparadox.com or a brief primer on Neoliberalism here.
    Aldo Madariaga is a Professor of Political Science at Universidad Diego Portales, and Associate Researcher at Center for Social Conflict and Cohesion Studies (COES). He is also the author of Neoliberal Resilience: Lessons in Democracy and Development from Latin America and Eastern Europe.
    Key Highlights Include

    • An Account of the Chilean Protests in 2019
    • Description of Neoliberalism as a Political Project
    • The Role of the State in Neoliberalism
    • How does Neoliberalism Shield its Policies from Democracy
    • Are Neoliberal Policies Fundamentally Undemocratic?


    Key Links

    Neoliberal Resilience: Lessons in Democracy and Development from Latin America and Eastern Europe by Aldo Madariaga

    Learn more about Aldo Madariaga

    Follow on Twitter @AldoMadariaga


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    James Loxton Explains Why Authoritarian Successor Parties Succeed in Democracies

    Jacob Hacker and Paul Pierson on the Plutocratic Populism of the Republican Party

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    Roger Lee Huang on Myanmar, Aung San Suu Kyi, and the Tatmadaw Aug 03, 2021
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    I think this actually reflects why we've seen a coup now. Clearly, the coup has really brought serious economic devastation for the entire country and the military itself will also not benefit from this. And that to me is the key, because they're not primarily motivated just by economic incentives and spoils. As a systematic military institution, it is driven by their own identity. Their own perception of what the Myanmar modern nation state should look like.

    Roger Lee Huang
    A full transcript is available at www.democracyparadox.com or a brief primer on Myanmar here.
    Roger Lee Huang is a lecturer in terrorism studies and political violence at Macquarie University in Sydney, Australia and the author of The Paradox of Myanmar’s Regime Change.
    Key Highlights Include

    • A brief history of modern Myanmar (Burma)
    • Description of the Tatmadaw
    • A portrait of Aung San Suu Kyi
    • Why is the National League for Democracy (NLD) so popular
    • What are the prospects for democracy in Myanmar


    Key Links

    The Paradox of Myanmar's Regime Change by Roger Lee Huang

    Myanmar’s Way to Genocide: The Rohingya Crisis in a Disciplined Democracy - Video Lecture by Roger Lee Huang

    "The Generals Strike Back" by Zoltan Barany from Journal of Democracy


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    Mallory SoRelle on the Politics of Consumer Credit Jul 27, 2021
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    Americans are expected to take on debt, because that's how we're expected to finance everything from basic needs to a college education. And that's a function of economic policy making. That doesn't happen by accident.

    Mallory SoRelle
    A full transcript is available at www.democracyparadox.com.
    Mallory SoRelle is an assistant professor of public policy at Duke University and the author of Democracy Declined: The Failed Politics of Consumer Financial Protection.
    Key Highlights Include

    • How the American economy depends on credit
    • A brief history of consumer credit in America
    • Details why consumer debt is a systemic problem
    • Why financial consumers do not politically mobilize
    • Explains how public policy shapes political behavior


    Key Links

    Democracy Declined: The Failed Politics of Consumer Financial Protection by Mallory SoRelle

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    Consumer Financial Protection Bureau


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    Sheryl WuDunn Paints a Picture of Poverty in America and Offers Hope for Solutions

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    David Stasavage on Early Democracy and its Decline Jul 20, 2021
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    This was not a phenomenon to one specific region. This was nothing that got invented in one place and at one time. It seems to have emerged independently in a wide, wide variety of human societies at different points in time. And to me, that sounds like something that occurs naturally.

    David Stasavage
    A full transcript is available at www.democracyparadox.com.
    David Stasavage is the Dean of Social Sciences and a Professor of Politics at New York University. His latest book is called The Decline and Rise of Democracy.
    Key Highlights Include

    • A description of early democracy with an example of the Huron people
    • Why autocracy arose through the example of Ancient China
    • How bureaucracy and the state changed governance
    • How English history shaped modern democracy
    • What modern democracy can learn from early forms of democracy


    Key Links

    The Decline and Rise of Democracyby David Stasavage

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    Follow David on Twitter @stasavage


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    Michael Hughes on the History of Democracy in Germany

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