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    Cybersecurity Where You Are (video)

    Welcome to video version of “Cybersecurity Where You Are,” the podcast of the Center for Internet Security® (CIS®). Cybersecurity affects us all, so join us on Wednesdays as Sean Atkinson, CISO at CIS; Tony Sager, SVP & Chief Evangelist at CIS; and Ed Skoudis, President of the SANS Technology Institute discuss trends and threats, explore security best practices, and interview experts in the industry. Together, we’ll clarify these issues, Creating Confidence in the Connected World®. Subscribe to the audio version of our podcast here: https://fast.wistia.net/embed/channel/wbyhaw35xf?wchannelid=wbyhaw35xf.

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    Episode 131: It Takes a Village to 'Reasonably' Secure SoCal Apr 16, 2025
    Show notes

    In episode 131 of Cybersecurity Where You Are, Tony Sager is joined by Stan Stahl, PhD, Founder and President of SecureTheVillage. Together, they discuss how SecureTheVillage, a nonprofit and inaugural Alan Paller Laureate Program awardee, is using a collaboration-driven approach to enhance reasonable cybersecurity awareness and practices within Southern California (SoCal). Here are some highlights from our episode:

    • 01:07. An introduction to Stan and how he came to champion small business cybersecurity
    • 04:28. How SecureTheVillage emerged to support small businesses' cybersecurity needs using the power of community
    • 07:15. The need for nonprofits to play a strong role in addressing cybersecurity challenges
    • 12:01. How Stan drew inspiration from Alan Paller and support from the Alan Paller Laureate Program to advance SecureTheVillage's work
    • 17:57. Reasonable cybersecurity as part of SecureTheVillage's foundation story
    • 22.13. Aligning cybersecurity needs to the goals of public policy
    • 25:33. What's next for SecureTheVillage
    • 29:52. Closing thoughts on why a "village" model for cybersecurity is so important

    Resources

    • Alan Paller Laureate Program
    • Implementation Guide for Small- and Medium-Sized Enterprises CIS Controls IG1
    • Episode 30: Solving Cybersecurity at Scale with Nonprofits
    • Reasonable Cybersecurity Guide

    If you have some feedback or an idea for an upcoming episode of Cybersecurity Where You Are, let us know by emailing podcast@cisecurity.org.


    Episode 130: The Story and Future of CIS Thought Leadership Apr 09, 2025
    Show notes

    In episode 130 of Cybersecurity Where You Are, Sean Atkinson and Tony Sager are joined by John Gilligan, President and Chief Executive Officer (CEO) of the Center for Internet Security® (CIS®). Set against the backdrop of the 2025 CIS Annual Full Staff Meeting, they celebrate 25 years of CIS, including the "serendipity" by which the company became a global cybersecurity thought leader. They also discuss how this thought leadership may evolve over the next 25 years. Here are some highlights from our episode:

    • 01:30. How CIS started along with how John and Tony initially got involved
    • 07:12. How CIS thought leadership changed with the absorption of the "SANS Top 20," the precursor of the CIS Critical Security Controls
    • 11:04. The "serendipity" through which CIS grew and formalized its sales, funding, support, and other operations in the 2010s
    • 15:18. How mission and culture advanced CIS to its 25th anniversary in 2025
    • 22:52. What the future might hold for "CIS 2.0"

    Resources

    • 25 Years of Creating Confidence in the Connected World
    • Episode 97: How Far We've Come preceding CIS's 25th Birthday
    • Episode 114: 3 Board Chairs Reflect on 25 Years of Community
    • Episode 76: The Role of Thought Leadership in Cybersecurity
    • Episode 125: How Leadership Principles Influence CIS Culture
    • Episode 120: How Contextual Awareness Drives AI Governance
    • Episode 119: Multidimensional Threat Defense at Large Events

    If you have some feedback or an idea for an upcoming episode of Cybersecurity Where You Are, let us know by emailing podcast@cisecurity.org.


    Episode 129: Embedding Cybersecurity in Project Management Apr 02, 2025
    Show notes

    In episode 129 of Cybersecurity Where You Are, Sean Atkinson discusses best practices for embedding cybersecurity in project management. Here are some highlights from our episode:

    • 01:34. Elements for connecting the dots between cybersecurity risk assessment and project risk assessment
    • 03:06. How our conceptualization of a project changes under a zero trust implementation
    • 04:02. What security may look like in a Waterfall vs. Agile approach to project management
    • 06:26. The importance of resources and stakeholders in managing any project
    • 08:34. Scope creep and other challenges of embedding cybersecurity in project management
    • 15:45. How continuous monitoring and other best practices can help us to overcome these hurdles
    • 25:30. How cybersecurity can inform projects involving generative artificial intelligence

    Resources

    • Episode 105: Context in Cyber Risk Quantification
    • Quantitative Risk Analysis: Its Importance and Implications
    • How Risk Quantification Tests Your Reasonable Cyber Defense
    • Episode 44: A Zero Trust Framework Knows No End
    • How to Construct a Sustainable GRC Program in 8 Steps
    • Episode 33: The Shift-Left of IoT Security to Vendors
    • Episode 120: How Contextual Awareness Drives AI Governance

    If you have some feedback or an idea for an upcoming episode of Cybersecurity Where You Are, let us know by emailing podcast@cisecurity.org.


    Episode 128: How Cryptocurrency Is Used for Financial Fraud Mar 26, 2025
    Show notes

    In episode 128 of Cybersecurity Where You Are, Sean Atkinson is joined by Joshua Palsgraf, Senior Cyber Threat Intelligence (CTI) Analyst at the Center for Internet Security® (CIS®). Together, they examine how cyber threat actors use cryptocurrency for financial fraud and how professionals like Joshua track this illicit activity. Here are some highlights from our episode:

    • 01:35. What a data-driven approach to CTI looks like
    • 02:47. What makes cryptocurrency useful in the digital economy, including for financial fraud
    • 06:50. How cryptocurrency-related financial crime compares to traditional forms of fraud
    • 13:20. Examples of cryptocurrency theft and its use in facilitating ransomware attacks
    • 27:24. Tooling and forensic methods that are being used to track crypto fraud/scams
    • 31:40. The need to build awareness around financial crime in the digital economy

    Resources

    • Episode 77: Data's Value to Decision-Making in Cybersecurity
    • 2023 Cryptocurrency Fraud Report Released
    • 2025 Crypto Crime Trends: Illicit Volumes Portend Record Year as On-Chain Crime Becomes Increasingly Diverse and Professionalized
    • Suspected Lazarus subgroup behind DMM crypto heist
    • Episode 126: A Day in the Life of a CTI Analyst
    • Combatting Ransomware
    • Episode 124: The Many Layers of a Malware Takedown Operation

    If you have some feedback or an idea for an upcoming episode of Cybersecurity Where You Are, let us know by emailing podcast@cisecurity.org.


    Episode 127: Visible Ops as a Cybersecurity Foundation Mar 19, 2025
    Show notes

    In episode 127 of Cybersecurity Where You Are, Sean Atkinson and Tony Sager are joined by Scott Alldridge, President and CEO of IP Services and the IT Process Institute. Together, they use Scott's book, "Visible Ops Cybersecurity: Enhancing Your Cybersecurity Posture with Practical Guidance," to discuss how visible IT operations (Visible Ops) provide a foundation for cybersecurity. Here are some highlights from our episode:

    • 01:31. How Visible Ops reflect an appreciation for the original config change release processes
    • 10:19. The limitations of treating security as a silo and "new toys" as security cure-alls
    • 15:23. How to embrace a dynamic view of visibility and configuration management
    • 24:50. The importance of leadership buy-in when shifting left to a security-first mindset
    • 27:10. What an effective change configuration management system looks like and how it changes people's view of IT
    • 30:20. Parting thoughts and where to find more of Scott's work

    Resources

    • IT Process Institute
    • What is ITIL? Your guide to the IT Infrastructure Library
    • CIS Critical Security Controls (CIS Controls) Resources
    • An Examination of How Cyber Threat Actors Can Leverage Generative AI Platforms
    • Episode 44: A Zero Trust Framework Knows No End
    • Why Employee Cybersecurity Awareness Training Is Important

    If you have some feedback or an idea for an upcoming episode of Cybersecurity Where You Are, let us know by emailing podcast@cisecurity.org.


    Episode 126: A Day in the Life of a CTI Analyst Mar 12, 2025
    Show notes

    In episode 126 of Cybersecurity Where You Are, Sean Atkinson is joined by Casey Cannon, Lead Cyber Threat Intelligence (CTI) Analyst at the Center for Internet Security® (CIS®). Together, they review what a regular day looks like for a CTI analyst. Here are some highlights from our episode:

    • 01:46. How a service-oriented mindset factors into a CTI career
    • 03:55. What task prioritization looks like at the beginning of a CTI analyst's day
    • 06:50. How bedrock CTI principles and threat actor matrices help to counter information overload and filter out noise
    • 10:45. The value of an "eclectic" set of intelligence sources
    • 25:50. How the CIS CTI team works with the 24x7x365 CIS Security Operations Center (SOC), the Cyber Incident Response Team (CIRT), and others
    • 31:27. Advice for getting into CTI as a career path

    Resources

    • Episode 124: The Many Layers of a Malware Takedown Operation
    • Episode 62: Inside the 'Spidey Sense' of a Pentester
    • Combatting Ransomware
    • The CIS Security Operations Center (SOC): The Key to Growing Your SLTT's Cyber Maturity

    If you have some feedback or an idea for an upcoming episode of Cybersecurity Where You Are, let us know by emailing podcast@cisecurity.org.


    Episode 125: How Leadership Principles Influence CIS Culture Mar 05, 2025
    Show notes

    In episode 125 of Cybersecurity Where You Are, Sean Atkinson is joined by Waldo Perez, Human Resources Support Specialist at the Center for Internet Security® (CIS®); and Penny Davis, Sr. Manager of Leadership Development at CIS. Together, they use the CIS Leadership Principles and other examples from CIS to understand how leadership influences and nurtures the organization's workplace culture.

    Here are some highlights from our episode:

    • 02:00. The human aspect in defining workplace culture
    • 03:55. How leadership principles directly shape company culture
    • 05:40. Key indicators of a strong company culture and one that can improve
    • 16:31. Examples where company culture has made an impact on a CIS employee's experience
    • 21:59. The importance of feedback in supporting positive cultural change
    • 25:41. How leadership training programs help employees to grow

    Resources

    • CIS Culture
    • Episode 115: Continuous Feedback as CIS Employee Culture
    • The Envelope, Please! The CIS 2024 President’s Award Goes to…
    • Center for Internet Security Named Among 2024 Top Workplaces

    If you have some feedback or an idea for an upcoming episode of Cybersecurity Where You Are, let us know by emailing podcast@cisecurity.org.


    Episode 124: The Many Layers of a Malware Takedown Operation Feb 26, 2025
    Show notes

    In episode 124 of Cybersecurity Where You Are, Sean Atkinson is joined by Timothy Davis, Lead Cyber Threat Intelligence (CTI) Analyst at the Center for Internet Security® (CIS®). Together, they explore the many layers of a malware takedown operation.

    Here are some highlights from our episode:

    • 01:58. A high-level overview of what a malware takedown might involve
    • 04:11. Some of the key players who help to disrupt known malware infrastructure
    • 07:35. Which operational functionalities make malware infrastructure and tactics difficult to dismantle
    • 10:56. Jurisdictional and legal challenges of a takedown operation
    • 14:53. What goes into identifying malware networks and infected end-user devices
    • 20:47. The technical strategies used for disrupting malware
    • 24:13. How cyber threat actors respond differently to a takedown effort

    Resources

    • Phobos Ransomware Affiliates Arrested in Coordinated International Disruption
    • Qakbot Malware Disrupted in International Cyber Takedown
    • Episode 89: How Threat Actors Are Using GenAI as an Enabler
    • Renew Your Ransomware Defense with CISA's Updated Guidance

    If you have some feedback or an idea for an upcoming episode of Cybersecurity Where You Are, let us know by emailing podcast@cisecurity.org.


    Episode 123: An Operational Playbook for Security Impact Feb 19, 2025
    Show notes

    In episode 123 of Cybersecurity Where You Are, Sean Atkinson and Tony Sager are joined by Gina Chapman, Chief Operating Officer (COO) at the Center for Internet Security® (CIS®). Together, they use examples from CIS to identify elements of an operational playbook for making an impact in the cybersecurity industry.

    Here are some highlights from our episode:

    • 01:21. Business development and organizational change over the course of 12 years at CIS
    • 13:49. Change management and communication as means for preserving company culture
    • 23:08. The importance of context in developing an operational playbook for a business
    • 32:49. The use of operational understanding to create effective cybersecurity business models

    Resources

    • Gina Chapman
    • CIS Culture
    • CIS Leadership Principles
    • Episode 82: How CIS Leadership Values Team Building Events
    • Cybersecurity at Scale: Piercing the Fog of More
    • Combatting Ransomware
    • Episode 68: Designing Cyber Defense as a Partnership Effort

    If you have some feedback or an idea for an upcoming episode of Cybersecurity Where You Are, let us know by emailing podcast@cisecurity.org.


    Episode 122: DeepSeek AI Security and Utility Considerations Feb 12, 2025
    Show notes

    In episode 122 of Cybersecurity Where You Are, Sean Atkinson is joined by Rian Davis, Associate Hybrid Threat Intelligence Analyst at the Center for Internet Security® (CIS®); and Timothy Davis, Lead Cyber Threat Intelligence (CTI) Analyst at CIS. Together, they discuss security and utility considerations surrounding the DeepSeek AI model.

    Here are some highlights from our episode:

    • 01:31. What enterprises and individuals can do before they start deploying foreign-developed, open-source large language models (LLMs)
    • 08:48. How DeepSeek fits into evolving adversarial tactics and techniques involving AI
    • 25:15. The impact on threat assessments and where we see controls built around AI
    • 31:45. Parting thoughts on approaching newer technologies like DeepSeek

    Resources

    • DeepSeek hit by cyberattack as users flock to Chinese AI startup
    • A 9th telecoms firm has been hit by a massive Chinese espionage campaign, the White House says
    • TikTok: Influence Ops, Data Practices Threaten U.S. Security
    • Wiz Research Uncovers Exposed DeepSeek Database Leaking Sensitive Information, Including Chat History
    • Episode 89: How Threat Actors Are Using GenAI as an Enabler
    • ODNI Releases 2024 Annual Threat Assessment of the U.S. Intelligence Community
    • The Strava Heat Map and the End of Secrets
    • Man who exploded Cybertruck in Las Vegas used ChatGPT in planning, police say
    • Episode 120: How Contextual Awareness Drives AI Governance

    If you have some feedback or an idea for an upcoming episode of Cybersecurity Where You Are, let us know by emailing podcast@cisecurity.org.


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