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    Cybersecurity Where You Are (video)

    Welcome to video version of “Cybersecurity Where You Are,” the podcast of the Center for Internet Security® (CIS®). Cybersecurity affects us all, so join us on Wednesdays as Sean Atkinson, CISO at CIS; Tony Sager, SVP & Chief Evangelist at CIS; and Ed Skoudis, President of the SANS Technology Institute discuss trends and threats, explore security best practices, and interview experts in the industry. Together, we’ll clarify these issues, Creating Confidence in the Connected World®. Subscribe to the audio version of our podcast here: https://fast.wistia.net/embed/channel/wbyhaw35xf?wchannelid=wbyhaw35xf.

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    Episode 151: 2025 Cybersecurity Predictions H2 Review — Pt 2 Sep 03, 2025
    Show notes

    In episode 151 of Cybersecurity Where You Are, Sean Atkinson and Tony Sager conclude their mid-year review of 12 Center for Internet Security® (CIS®) experts' cybersecurity predictions for 2025. Here are some highlights from our episode:

    • 01:12. The importance of consolidating security operations and using what already exists
    • 03:18. The promise of generative artificial intelligence (GenAI) in relieving grunt work
    • 08:26. The great responsibility and burden of integrating GenAI into business operations
    • 10:53. How control and inspection generate trust in systems
    • 17:57. Post-quantum cryptography, IoT in edge computing, and GenAI's sociopolitical risks
    • 30:21. The need for a more holistic understanding of compliance
    • 33:34. Why zero trust doesn't mean "no trust"
    • 36:56. The need for AI as an element of critical security control
    • 41:33. The dynamic challenge of protecting all assets with varying levels of security

    Resources

    • 12 CIS Experts' Cybersecurity Predictions for 2025
    • Episode 145: 2025 Cybersecurity Predictions H2 Review — Pt 1
    • Episode 135: Five Lightning Chats at RSAC Conference 2025
    • Establishing Essential Cyber Hygiene
    • Episode 95: AI Augmentation and Its Impact on Cyber Defense
    • Guide to Asset Classes: CIS Critical Security Controls v8.1
    • An Examination of How Cyber Threat Actors Can Leverage Generative AI Platforms
    • An Introduction to Artificial Intelligence
    • Episode 120: How Contextual Awareness Drives AI Governance
    • Episode 118: Preparing for Post-Quantum Cryptography
    • Episode 63: Building Capability and Integration with SBOMs
    • Episode 99: How Cyber-Informed Engineering Builds Resilience
    • Mapping and Compliance with the CIS Controls
    • Mapping and Compliance with the CIS Benchmarks
    • CIS Community Defense Model 2.0

    If you have some feedback or an idea for an upcoming episode of Cybersecurity Where You Are, let us know by emailing podcast@cisecurity.org.


    Episode 150: A Roundtable Chat to Celebrate 150 Episodes Aug 27, 2025
    Show notes

    In episode 150 of Cybersecurity Where You Are, Sean Atkinson and Tony Sager are joined by Chad Rogers, Sr. Manager, Digital Media Services, at the Center for Internet Security® (CIS®); Rudy Uhde, Video Editor at CIS; and David Bisson, Sr. Content Strategist at CIS. Together, they use a roundtable chat to celebrate 150 episodes of Cybersecurity Where You Are. Here are some highlights from our episode:

    • 01:33. How the cybersecurity landscape and podcast have changed since Episode 100
    • 05:40. The "labor of love" that goes into editing and preparing an episode for publication
    • 12:13. Memorable guests and moments that changed the team's thinking about cybersecurity
    • 25:45. How the larger podcast team drives continuous improvement and innovation
    • 30:13. Parting thoughts for the audience

    Resources

    • Episode 100: Celebrating 100 Episodes and Looking Ahead
    • Episode 149: Human Error, AI Missteps, and Other VM Risks
    • Episode 9: Mitigating Risk: Information Security Governance
    • Episode 96: Making Continuous Compliance Actionable for SMBs
    • Episode 121: The Economics of Cybersecurity Decision-Making
    • Episode 114: 3 Board Chairs Reflect on 25 Years of Community
    • Episode 136: How WiCyS Advances Women in Cybersecurity
    • Episode 120: How Contextual Awareness Drives AI Governance
    • Episode 116: AI-Enhanced Ransomware and Defending Against It
    • Episode 146: What Security Looks Like for a Security Company
    • Episode 110: How Security Culture and Corporate Culture Mesh

    If you have some feedback or an idea for an upcoming episode of Cybersecurity Where You Are, let us know by emailing podcast@cisecurity.org.


    Episode 149: Human Error, AI Missteps, and Other VM Risks Aug 20, 2025
    Show notes

    In episode 149 of Cybersecurity Where You Are, Sean Atkinson is joined by Chris McCullar, Director of Sales, Cloud Security, at the Center for Internet Security® (CIS®); and Mishal Makshood, Sr. Cloud Security Account Executive at CIS. Together, they discuss how to navigate human error, artificial intelligence (AI) missteps, and other landmarks in a new frontier of virtual machine (VM) risks. Here are some highlights from our episode:

    • 00:50. Introductions with Chris and Mishal
    • 02:20. The ongoing need to address the risk of human error when configuring VMs
    • 04:55. The value of building trusted security into a VM image by design
    • 07:28. A reality check of what the shared responsibility model means to an organization
    • 13:06. How the integration of AI into DevOps accelerates both automation and mistakes
    • 15:21. The importance of a secure foundation in the cloud on which you can build with AI
    • 18:19. Automated enforcement and AI's role in complementing human judgment
    • 21:03. Two examples how CIS resources can drive governance and policy integration
    • 28:05. Cybersecurity as a community-driven team sport
    • 30:33. Lifecycle management as a way of addressing organizations' security needs

    Resources

    • Keep the Cloud Secure with CIS after Migrating to the Cloud
    • Automated Compliance: The Byproduct of Holistic Hardening
    • Meet the Shared Responsibility Model with New CIS Resources
    • Episode 135: Five Lightning Chats at RSAC Conference 2025
    • 2025 Data Breach Investigations Report

    If you have some feedback or an idea for an upcoming episode of Cybersecurity Where You Are, let us know by emailing podcast@cisecurity.org.


    Episode 148: How MDR Helps Shine a Light on Zero-Day Attacks Aug 13, 2025
    Show notes

    In episode 148 of Cybersecurity Where You Are, Sean Atkinson is joined by Rob Reese, Cyber Incident Response Team Manager at the Center for Internet Security® (CIS®); Dustin Cox, Cyber Incident Response Team Analyst at CIS; and Cliff Moten, Manager, Cybersecurity Solutions Engineering at CIS. Together, they discuss how organizations can use Managed Detection and Response (MDR) tools to help defend against zero-day attacks. Here are some highlights from our episode:

    • 01.06. Demystifying zero-day vulnerabilities with a definition
    • 02:36. Why zero-day attacks are some of the most serious threats facing organizations today
    • 04:19. Examples of zero-day exploits and how these threats affect Incident Response (IR)
    • 10:06. The importance of understanding your environment and patch management
    • 13:58. How MDR assists with behavioral analysis, assembling holistic inventories, and IR
    • 20:02. The role of asset inventories in determining scope and containing a zero-day incident
    • 24:08. Why it's important to have humans managing and monitoring an MDR solution
    • 27:11. MDR as a means of centralizing evidence of a zero-day attack
    • 30:05. Parting thoughts for those concerned with their endpoint security posture

    Resources

    • CIS Managed Detection and Response™ (CIS MDR)
    • Multi-State Information Sharing and Analysis Center®
    • CIS Critical Security Control 1: Inventory and Control of Enterprise Assets
    • CIS Critical Security Control 2: Inventory and Control of Software Assets
    • The CIS Security Operations Center (SOC): The Key to Growing Your SLTT's Cyber Maturity
    • Real-Time Indicator Feeds
    • Incident Response Policy Template for CIS Control 17

    If you have some feedback or an idea for an upcoming episode of Cybersecurity Where You Are, let us know by emailing podcast@cisecurity.org.


    Episode 147: Actualizing Threat Intel for Effective Defense Aug 06, 2025
    Show notes

    In episode 147 of Cybersecurity Where You Are, Sean Atkinson is joined by John Cohen, Executive Director of the Program for Countering Hybrid Threats at the Center for Internet Security® (CIS®); and Kaitlin Drape, Hybrid Threat Intelligence Analyst at CIS. Together, they discuss how to actualize threat intel for the purpose of building effective defense programs and operational response plans. Here are some highlights from our episode:

    • 01:27. Which two questions you want to answer when providing intelligence on a threat
    • 05:19. How to avoid underutilizing or misunderstanding the utility of threat intel
    • 13.18. A real-life story from John of when intelligence made a difference in a security incident
    • 17:05. The foundation and building blocks of maturing your threat intelligence program
    • 22:14. The value of working with non-intelligence groups to formulate effective response plans
    • 24:22. CIS's ongoing work to help organizations proactively ingest and use threat intel
    • 28:24. How cross-collaboration across an organization brings threat intel into a lifecycle
    • 31:01. Kaitlin's work as an exemplar of how to make threat intelligence operational
    • 36:20. The ongoing evolution of hybrid threat intel to inform meaningful operational responses

    Resources

    • ThreatWA™
    • How Threat Modeling, Actor Attribution Grow Cyber Defenses
    • Countering Multidimensional Threats: Lessons Learned from the 2024 Election
    • Episode 119: Multidimensional Threat Defense at Large Events
    • Sinaloa cartel used phone data and surveillance cameras to find FBI informants, DOJ says

    If you have some feedback or an idea for an upcoming episode of Cybersecurity Where You Are, let us know by emailing podcast@cisecurity.org.


    Episode 146: What Security Looks Like for a Security Company Jul 30, 2025
    Show notes

    In episode 146 of Cybersecurity Where You Are, Tony Sager is joined by Angelo Marcotullio, Chief Information Officer at the Center for Internet Security®(CIS®); and Stephanie Gass, Sr. Director of Information Security at CIS. Together, they look back on periods of transition at CIS to discuss what security looks like for a security company. Here are some highlights from our episode:

    • 00:58. Introductions with Angelo and Stephanie
    • 02:07. A pro and a con of IT consulting work
    • 04:12. The importance of soft skills in bringing the Multi-State Information Sharing and Analysis Center® into CIS
    • 06:12. Looking at security from a corporate perspective with the CIS Critical Security Controls
    • 07:08. How IT and IT security are essential to corporate strategy
    • 07:45. The use of governance to support merging three business units into an integrated security company
    • 12:04. The value of security champions in adapting to regulatory and business changes
    • 15:15. What IT and Security teams can accomplish when they work as partners
    • 17:18. The use of data to inform Board decisions and conversations around risk
    • 20:38. How getting a seat at the table helps with understanding a Board's risk appetite and communicating that out to teams
    • 25:01. How infrastructure built for growth, not the smallest business case, produced a smooth transition to work from home in March 2020
    • 29:30. Advice for folks starting out in security
    • 31.28. The importance of collaboration and culture in implementing security as an organization

    Resources

    • Episode 144: Carrying on the MS-ISAC's Character and Culture
    • The CIS Security Operations Center (SOC): The Key to Growing Your SLTT's Cyber Maturity
    • Guide to Implementation Groups (IG): CIS Critical Security Controls v8.1
    • CIS Controls v8.1 Mapping to ISO/IEC 27001:2022
    • CIS Controls v8.1 Mapping to SOC2
    • CIS Controls v8.1 Mapping to NIST SP 800-171 Rev 3
    • Reasonable Cybersecurity
    • Episode 110: How Security Culture and Corporate Culture Mesh

    If you have some feedback or an idea for an upcoming episode of Cybersecurity Where You Are, let us know by emailing podcast@cisecurity.org.


    Episode 145: 2025 Cybersecurity Predictions H2 Review — Pt 1 Jul 23, 2025
    Show notes

    In episode 145 of Cybersecurity Where You Are, Sean Atkinson and Tony Sager begin their mid-year review of 12 Center for Internet Security® (CIS®) experts' cybersecurity predictions for 2025. Here are some highlights from our episode:

    • 01:14. Verizon's Data Breach Investigations Report as a source of enlightenment and humility
    • 02:28. The use of generative artificial intelligence (GenAI) to finely tune phishing emails
    • 06:31. Cyber threat actors' Darwinian efficiency in adopting new technology
    • 07:50. Policies, oversight, and compliance in slowing defenders' adoption of technology
    • 10:30. The two-sided, dynamic challenge of managing supply chain risk
    • 18:23. Cybersecurity as a strategic business investment in protecting revenue
    • 20:40. The value of partnerships in determining rational social expectations for cybersecurity
    • 26:45. Rapid recap of several of our 2025 cybersecurity predictions
    • 28:43. Designing technology with human awareness to create a culture of responsibility
    • 32:29. The need to rethink what "connected" means in our complex world

    Resources

    • 12 CIS Experts' Cybersecurity Predictions for 2025
    • Episode 117: 2025 Cybersecurity Predictions from CIS Experts
    • 2025 Data Breach Investigations Report
    • 2024 DBIR Findings & How the CIS Critical Security Controls Can Help to Mitigate Risk to Your Organization
    • Episode 119: Multidimensional Threat Defense at Large Events
    • How to Construct a Sustainable GRC Program in 8 Steps
    • Society of Information Risk Analysts
    • Reasonable Cybersecurity
    • Episode 135: Five Lightning Chats at RSAC Conference 2025

    If you have some feedback or an idea for an upcoming episode of Cybersecurity Where You Are, let us know by emailing podcast@cisecurity.org.


    Episode 144: Carrying on the MS-ISAC's Character and Culture Jul 16, 2025
    Show notes

    In episode 144 of Cybersecurity Where You Are, Sean Atkinson and Tony Sager are joined by Carlos Kizzee, Senior Vice President of Multi-State Information Sharing and Analysis Center® (MS-ISAC®) at the Center for Internet Security®(CIS®). Together, they discuss how the MS-ISAC's new funding model helps to carry on the character and culture of this collaborative cyber defense community. Here are some highlights from our episode:

    • 01:11. The unique mission, history, and value of building community at the MS-ISAC
    • 05:36. A new fee-based model to preserve services and support amid federal funding changes
    • 07:08. Service continuity as a commitment to U.S. State, Local, Tribal, and Territorial entities
    • 09:45. Initial feedback and considerations heard at the 2025 ISAC Annual Meeting
    • 11:40. The new membership funding model and how it preserves SLTT collaboration
    • 15:25. A cost-effective approach to securing the "cyber-underserved"
    • 19:31. The range of U.S. SLTT government organizations who can enroll as members now
    • 21:59. The illusion of "free" in helping U.S. SLTTs to strengthen their cyber defenses
    • 22:55. Why U.S. SLTTs need to enroll in paid MS-ISAC membership before October 1, 2025
    • 28:03. Scale as the key to making MS-ISAC activities as cost-effective as possible
    • 30:05. The essential need for U.S. SLTT government organizations to invest in the MS-ISAC

    Resources

    • Multi-State Information Sharing and Analysis Center®
    • Episode 142: SLTTs and Their Nuanced Cybersecurity Needs
    • Episode 137: National Cybersecurity Through SLTT Resilience
    • ISAC Annual Meeting
    • MS-ISAC Membership Resources
    • Become an MS-ISAC Member
    • Episode 30: Solving Cybersecurity at Scale with Nonprofits

    If you have some feedback or an idea for an upcoming episode of Cybersecurity Where You Are, let us know by emailing podcast@cisecurity.org.


    Episode 143: Iran's Growing Multidimensional Threat Activity Jul 09, 2025
    Show notes

    In episode 143 of Cybersecurity Where You Are, Sean Atkinson is joined by John Cohen, Executive Director of the Program for Countering Hybrid Threats at the Center for Internet Security®(CIS®). Together, they discuss Iran's evolving multidimensional threat activity following U.S. airstrikes on Iranian nuclear facilities in June 2025. Here are some highlights from our episode:

    • 00:49. Lessons from the past on how Iran might respond to the U.S. airstrikes in June 2025
    • 04:56. The use of informed practice and continuous awareness to better prepare defenders
    • 06:41. Recap of Iranian multidimensional threat activity observed between 2024 and 2025
    • 11:53. The impact of contextual intelligence and education in driving threat awareness
    • 19:17. Why understanding of impact is critical to addressing a business risk
    • 23:09. Three things you need to do to be an effective threat briefer
    • 25:07. The use of tabletop exercises (TTXs) to promote incident response
    • 26:56. The 2024 General Election as a case study of what threat preparedness can do

    Resources

    • ThreatWA™
    • US hits 3 Iranian nuclear sites, Trump says, plunging America into conflict
    • Are national security threats a concern after U.S. military strike on Iranian nuclear sites?
    • New report: Hacker for El Chapo helped boss hunt and kill FBI informants
    • MS-ISAC Guide to DDoS Attacks
    • With July 4 just days away, US law enforcement on high alert for Iran retaliation
    • Iran-linked hackers threaten to release Trump aides' emails
    • Iranian-aligned hackers claim responsibility for Truth Social cyberattack
    • Iranian-Aligned Hackers Claim Responsibility for Attack on Trump’s Truth Social Platform
    • States and Congress wrestle with cybersecurity after Iran attacks small town water utilities
    • NYPD deploying additional resources across city following US strikes on Iran
    • CIS Critical Security Controls v8.1 Industrial Control Systems (ICS) Guide
    • Enhancing Safety in the Connected World — A National Framework for Action
    • Episode 138: The Use of GenAI to Refine Your TTX Development
    • Countering Multidimensional Threats: Lessons Learned from the 2024 Election

    If you have some feedback or an idea for an upcoming episode of Cybersecurity Where You Are, let us know by emailing podcast@cisecurity.org.


    Episode 142: SLTTs and Their Nuanced Cybersecurity Needs Jul 02, 2025
    Show notes

    In episode 142 of Cybersecurity Where You Are, Sean Atkinson is joined by Anthony Essmaker, former Product Marketing Manager at the Center for Internet Security®(CIS®); and Randy Rose, VP of Security Operations & Intelligence at CIS. Together, they discuss the nuanced, empathetic approach that's required to help U.S. State, Local, Tribal, and Territorial (SLTT) government organizations to address their cybersecurity needs. Here are some highlights from our episode:

    • 01.10. What the acronym "SLTT" means to CIS's operational mission
    • 05:39. Using a flexible approach to support the different cybersecurity needs of the 50 states
    • 09:43. How different resources and experiences contextualize "best practices" at the local level
    • 11:49. Trivia question: Which two U.S. states don't have counties?
    • 13:20. The complexity of cybersecurity challenges and resources for U.S. tribal entities
    • 20:11. A 20-year history of working with U.S. SLTTs to meet them where they are
    • 21:30. Relationships as the bedrock for a community model of SLTT cyber defense
    • 26:29. Geographical isolation and other factors affecting U.S. territories' cybersecurity needs
    • 32:42. A closing fun fact about the first U.S. fire district

    Resources

    • Episode 123: An Operational Playbook for Security Impact
    • The CIS Security Operations Center (SOC): The Key to Growing Your SLTT's Cyber Maturity
    • 2024 MS-ISAC Tribal Sector Cybersecurity Report
    • Multi-State Information Sharing and Analysis Center®
    • Nationwide Cybersecurity Review (NCSR)

    If you have some feedback or an idea for an upcoming episode of Cybersecurity Where You Are, let us know by emailing podcast@cisecurity.org.


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