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    Want to build a Personal Brand? Wish you could see the real behind-the-scenes of how someone actual grows a strong personal brand and becomes an Influencer? How does personal branding work? What personal branding strategy actually helps you grow your audience, and what doesn’t work? Curious about how to make money as a social media influencer? And why should you want a personal brand at all in the first place? In this podcast, Jamie M Swanson, founder of the StorySession System and leader of the Personal Brand Photography movement, takes you behind the scenes as she pivots from having grown a highly-profitable business brand to growing her own personal brand. You’ll see what works, what doesn’t, and hear business tips along the way to help you grow your online business. She’ll explain her social media strategy, how she leverages her audience to fully support her family and make money online, and she’ll share the behind-the-scenes stuff that you’d normally only hear from your closest friends and colleagues in masterminds or over coffee. Plus, she’s going to share her statistics and numbers along the way. Sound good? Then Subscribe, Listen, and Leave us a Review letting us know what you think!

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    From $0 to $30k per Month in 90 Days or Less.... Aug 04, 2020
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    Contact Jamie via DM on Instagram @jamiemswanson if you're interested in booking a Clarity Coaching Day. Episode Transcript: [00:00:00] I'm starting a brand new business with zero audience with a goal of getting to $30,000 per month. Within the first 90 days in today's episode, I'm going to share how I plan to do it and why it feels really doable at least what I'm not listening to my fear, but first check out the new podcast, branding and introduction. [00:00:22] At the end of June, I officially stepped away from the personal brand photography training business that I had been running for years after trying for several months to revive it after COVID hit, it was really a rough demise. If you want to hear. About the majority of it and how I handled that you can go back and listen in too. [00:01:13] But basically what I ended up doing, I was running a beta course on the bright future method that I had been basically doing. In my business. I'd just never taken the time to get it out of my head and teach it to others. And I did that in may and June with a handful, all of entrepreneurs to see if it would really work for them as well. [00:01:36] Not just for me. It gave me a ton of clarity. And how I wanted to move forward for the next few months, even though, while I was doing this beta course, I was also trying to keep my photography training business going, because I really believe that that industry is set up to be. Really profitable in the future. [00:01:59] More and more people are online than ever. But the reality was that photographers got hit really hard by COVID even now as I'm doing this a few months later, They're still trying to dig out of the hole. [00:02:12] And many of them still see the impact on their business because, you know, people don't want to be taking photos with masks on, in the photo. And there's just all sorts of stuff that make it very difficult for them. So if they aren't making money, very few of them are spending money. Some are just not at the rate that they were before. [00:02:31] And I saw some drop about 85%, which was. Just brutal. So I tried for about three and a half, almost four months to really revive that and bring it back. And I do believe that it's going to come back in the future, maybe six, 12 months down the line, but right now I can't afford to wait that long. So we're pivoting and I kind of saw this as a great opportunity to become more aligned in my business with who I am now, because when I started my online business, Almost 10 years ago now, which is just amazing to look back and think of, I was a totally different person than I am now. [00:03:08]And so even though this has been really not fun, really not fun to walk through. And if you have been going through it as well, you understand, even if your business is okay, you know how hard it's been on a personal level. So we're all struggling through this together. And even though it's been a really, really hard. [00:03:27] I feel this huge sense of excitement and freedom as to what can be in the future. And I know that one day I'm going to look back at this and see this as one of the best things that's ever happened, because it's allowing me to really do something that I'm super passionate about today. And it's allowing me to dive into helping people that I just love geeking out with. [00:03:50] And so anyways, all of that said, I'm very excited about it. And July 13th, It was the day that I was officially all in with my new business where I've stepped away, almost completely from the photography stuff. It's still there. It's still got some evergreen funnel running. [00:04:06] In terms of my time, everything is focused on the new business as of July 13th. And so my goal is to be making at least $30,000 a month within the first 90 days of July 13th. Now it took me a few years to have my first $30,000 month. When I was first starting my online business. This would have seemed like an unfair. [00:04:32] Fathomable goal for me back when I was first starting out online. So I wanted to share why I think now I can totally make that happen and what's different, right? Because I think you might get some benefit from hearing how I approach things differently. Now almost 10 years in. Versus how I did them when I was first starting out, or even had a few years of experience under my belt, but didn't fully understand what it took to be successful. [00:05:01], number one, I have way more. Clarity about what I want. And I created a step by step plan for getting me there. Okay. So first I know exactly what I want to sell. I am not selling $20 a month memberships, which would take 1500 people for me to get to $30,000 a month. [00:05:26] That's a lot of people to find and convinced to become buyers in 90 days. Like that is really hard. Instead, what I've decided to do is go higher end and do some coaching days. So I called these clarity coaching sessions and I'm charging at least at the time of this recording. $5,000 for clarity coaching day, where I walk through the big picture strategy with people, I help create a step by step plan. [00:05:56] That's going to help somebody who already has a business running, who already has a product, but really wants to sell a lot more of it. And aren't sure what they're missing. They don't have that confidence. They don't know what works or what's going to work best for them. And they're doing a little bit of that FOMO marketing, where they're trying one thing, and then they're trying another, and they're just really hoping that something sticks, right. [00:06:17] I can come in and use the expertise that I've gained in the last 10 years and help them create that step by step plan, but they can have full confidence in moving forward. And so that's, you know, I only need six people if it's $5,000 for a day and that's going to go up as demand increases. And that's going to go up as demand increases. [00:06:39]that's only six people a month to get to $30,000. Now that's way easier to find people, even if it's a higher price point, then to find 1500 people at a lower price point. that's really. A huge advantage coming out the gate. people get really concerned about price being just right. [00:06:58] And they're very afraid, especially early on that. If they price it wrong, nobody's going to buy. But what I've learned over the years that it's really not that much harder to sell a high ticket item than it is to sell a lower ticket item. If you know that what you have provides value really is going to get people results that make it worth the money you're charging. [00:07:19] Right. And so I find it much less daunting to get six people than to get 1500. Now I'm not going for, or direct recurring revenue yet it's coming right now. I just want to see some money coming in the door, and then I'm going to take some time as I work with people. To develop some sort of recurring revenue in my business as well. [00:07:39] I just don't know what people need most yet, or the best way to move forward with that in terms of what I want to offer. And so I'm spending a little time letting myself think about that, but eventually I want this to be recurring, not just one offs or six offs per month or whatever. But as I get demand growing and it's already started right away, which is really cool. [00:07:58] I do hope that I'll be charging 10,000, maybe even 15,000 or more per day for these clarity coaching days. But right now I feel like I can easily help people make their investment back several times over at the $5,000 price point. So that's where I've started it. [00:08:21] In addition to that, I also have the beta course that I did back in may and June. Now I'm not currently promoting that, like the thought of going in and setting up all the core stuff and doing a big launch for that felt. Heavy. And it felt slow compared to starting with the coaching days. And one of the things I wanted to do was really work one on one with more people right away to get a better sense for what is really going to help them get the transformation and progress they need in their business, so that I can go back and redo the bright future method again, with a new group of people in the future. [00:08:56] But have a better sense of how I can help them have a better sense of where the holes are and the gaps are. I already learned a lot with the current beta course and the people who were there from their feedback, it was super helpful. Like I would never just create a course or a membership out the gate without having done it with at least a handful of people first in a messier, but more authentic. [00:09:17] Like down and dirty kind of environment where you're learning together. And you're getting that direct feedback, because I know when I do put this out, it's going to be phenomenally amazing. That being said, the people in the course who went through it as a beta, there's about 15. Who've actively gone through it. [00:09:35] And a handful of more who've who've joined it, but haven't gone through all the material yet, but those people have been asking me. When they can invite their friends. And so I'm not doing big launch. I've got my own little wait list right now, but I am letting them share the link with their friends. [00:09:51] If they know somebody who really I could use it. So I could potentially get a little revenue from that on the backend as well at the moment. So that's another way that, you know, I could potentially bring money in [00:10:02] for the $30,000 per month that I'm hoping to make. Now not only do I have clarity on what I'm going to sell, I have the intentional strategy for how I'm going to book these coaching sessions and eventually relaunch the course myself. Okay. So number one, I've figured out where people are hanging out for me. [00:10:22] I know the people that I want to work with are listening to podcasts or reading. Or listening to books, that's where they get the majority of their information. Now, writing a book would take too long. So podcasting it is. And thankfully it is the medium that I love the best. This is my favorite way to make content. [00:10:40] So I'm really excited about that. I created a content plan that builds desire for my coaching days. So I'm not just here spewing out random things, whatever comes to mind. I have an intentional strategic plan for. Every single episode, and I know how to create content that builds desire for whatever it is I'm selling, whether it be coaching days, whether it be the bright future method that I've created. [00:11:07] I know how to make listeners. You really wish they had access to that. And it's, it's not anything manipulative. It's just in how you. Structure your content and messaging behind it. It's one of my little superpowers that I've found. I didn't even realize I was good at this, or how good at this I was until I went through this beta course and saw so many people seeing their messaging. [00:11:32] Really becoming strong and really starting to stand out from the crowd because they were putting in place some of the things that I was recommending and doing it in the ways that I was encouraging them to do that, using this bright future method. And I'll share a little hints of that coming up in one of the episodes in the next few weeks. [00:11:52] So watch for that. You're definitely going to want it. So everything's intentional. All my content is created. To build desire for the coaching day. And I'm keeping everything super simple, well enlight so I can implement it fast. I don't want to be spending a bunch of time building automated funnels right now. [00:12:10] I want to be bringing money in the door quickly, and I didn't want this to be heavy. The last few months have been very exhausting. Sure. Can you relate to this? Have you had a few, are you exhausted moments? Are you just feeling the fatigue yet? I know so many people are kind of at the end of their rope, especially with school restarting up here in the U S. [00:12:30] Soon or not. And all, it's just, it's a crazy mess. It's a crazy mess. And we are all exhausted Austin, including myself. And so I wanted this to be as light and simple, as easy as possible. So it's literally as easy as contacting me. Having a little chat to see if this is actually a good fit for both of us and then booking the date for the clarity coaching call. [00:12:52] If it is a good fit for people, it's about as simple as a funnel can get. And I am all about keeping things simple in my right now. And then. I'm also doing absolutely everything with intention. I'm not doing anything without knowing exactly how it's going to help either build desire for my product, get people to buy or help them get better results and want to share it with the people that they know who need it. [00:13:16] Right. So I'm definitely one of the big, you know, differences since I started out, is that everything now is intentional. I know why I'm doing every little thing that I'm doing. I also know now that it's not about the tactics, it's more about the big picture strategy. When I was first starting out, I get really concerned about all the little details, like what software do you use and how do you do this? And all those little things. They don't really matter, you know, like they're just the things that we use to keep us from moving forward. Our fear latches on all little details, because were afraid of putting ourselves out there. [00:13:55] So it's much easier to hem and haw and worry about getting the color exactly right on your landing page or what platform should you use to. Deliver your content or any of these things that, yeah, you've got to make a decision about it. It doesn't really matter when you understand the bigger strategy and what's going on and have the messaging nailed down. [00:14:20] All those little things. They're just a waste of time and your fear attaches to them. Just not letting myself care about that. I'm making it as simple as possible. And I just make a decision and move forward and don't worry about it. Doesn't have to be the best. It just has to be effective. [00:14:34] Just has to work. That's all that matters. I also have learned that every single part. Is intentionally designed. So I'm not wasting time on stuff that isn't actually going to get me results. So not only do I have an intentional strategy, but I've sifted through and said, what other ones that can get me there, the fastest and the easiest, because I need money. [00:14:56] Like, I'm just going to call it like it is when your income drops 85%. It is really devastating. I mean, I've had to cut my team way back. We've had to cut back on a ton. One of other things, this is our only income. So having had that decrease so much has really caused us to make some difficult decisions. [00:15:17] So partly we just need some money coming in. So I want it to be as fast and easy as possible. I can't afford. To wait. That's part of why I'm not launching the course right away is because yes, I could redo the beta course and I, I absolutely love the bright future method I've done or that I've put together in the beta course. [00:15:36] And I know that it's super effective, but. I want to get some money coming in now, and then I will shift to that because that's just what we need to do i…

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    Season 3 Trailer: What's New!? Aug 04, 2020
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    Hey, Friend things are a little different around here. This season, season three brings with it a new name and brand the Bright Entrepreneur podcast. As I roll out my new business coaching entrepreneurs and teaching them the Bright Future Method that I developed over the last few months. [00:00:16] So they can build a business with both profit and purpose. If you're new around here, welcome. I'm genuinely thankful you took the time to listen to this, and it's my goal to help provide you with inspiration and tips that help you grow your business. Make an impact. If you dive into the archives, you'll find that during season one and two, the podcast it's called personal brand journey. [00:00:41] Season one, focused on my journey, growing a personal brand. And gives you a behind the scenes. Look at how I it's a seven figure photography training business in season two, shared real time. How I responded to COVID, which basically destroyed my business overnight. I left season two hanging and took a break from podcasting as I worked. [00:01:03] Over time trying to save my photography training business while also running the base course where I taught my bright future method for the very first time. But I'm back and I could not more excited for season three in this season. I'm going all in with helping transformation driven entrepreneurs. [00:01:21] Like you understand how to grow your business with intention. Simplicity and purpose. I'll talk about how to do this with an engaged community and how to transform your community into a movement that spreads the word about your business and makes a real impact in the world. It's going to be my best season yet, and I cannot wait to get rolling. [00:01:46] I'll be dropping new episodes by Sunday and Wednesday each week. So check back on those days to keep up to date. And if you haven't yet smashed that subscribe button right now. [00:01:56] So you never miss a new episode with that. Check out any episodes in season three, to hear my newly branded intro. And once you've listened to the entire episode, drop a review to let me know what you think of it. I read and appreciate it. Each and every review that I get. So thank you in advance. Truly. [00:02:17] It's one of the best ways that you can give back. If you found any value in this podcast, I genuinely hope that this quickly becomes one of your favorite. Can't miss an episode podcast, and that it helps you create a business that you can be proud of. We are brighter together. My friend, the world needs us. [00:02:37] So let's make it brighter.


    Step 3: What's Their Problem? Apr 22, 2020
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    so often we start with the solution that we've created, the product, the course, a service, whatever, but the best way to get people to buy is to focus on the problem that our product solves and then help them see it as the logical solution. That's what we'll be discussing in step three of the beta launch method. [00:00:25] If you're new here, you've started in the middle of my series on how I'm beta launching my new course. I highly recommend you go back and listen to episode 12 of season two first, which is an overview of the entire process. You can see how this fits into the big picture. So now that we're here on step three, we know who we want to sell to, but why should they buy our stuff? [00:01:04] What problem does it solve for them? The more painful the problem is, the more they're going to want the solution and be willing to pay for it. For example, if you find out you have a rare form of aggressive cancer, you'll do anything you can to find the best doctor to help you cure it, cure it as fast as possible. [00:01:26] Even if it costs you your entire life savings. But if the problem is just that they're bored, there's lots of things that they already own that might serve to fill that problem, and they'll have a lot less urgency about purchasing your product now. So you have to ask yourself, what problem does my potential client have and how badly do they want to solve it? [00:01:50] So for example, this new beta course that I'm launching, here's some of my first thoughts on the problems. And I'm going to be really honest with you. I feel like I still need to work on these a little bit, but Hey, we're beta launching done is better than perfect, and so we're just gonna roll with it right now, right? [00:02:06] That's kind of how I do things. All right. So first, I'm looking to work with people who are doing all this work and just are not being heard. Like they put out all this content and they just hear crickets. No one responds, no one engages. No one comments. Things like that. They have little to no engagement. [00:02:26] They have to work harder than they should to get new sales. They just feel like there's gotta be an easier way. They don't feel like they have a lot of loyal clients. They have very few testimonials and pretty much no word of mouth marketing, and there's just no real community. In their business. They're just not standing out from the crowd. [00:02:49] They're kind of blending in with all the other businesses serving their same market, but they know they're doing all the right things, yet something is still missing and they just don't know what that thing is now. All of these things are valid problems, but I'm going to be honest, they're a little bit weak on the urgency side, like none of them require immediate action, like getting audited by the IRS would require. [00:03:15] Right? Like if you got that note and they said, Hey, we're going to audit you. You need to get us this stuff. You're going to be talking to your accountant and making that stuff happen right away because that's, you know, kind of a big deal. These aren't nearly as. Urgent is that is, but they're still problems that keep a business from growing. [00:03:35] And when you solve them, your results start to amplify. So it's easy to forget. [00:03:44] Now. I know this might seem basic, but it's really easy to forget to identify the problem when you're thinking about creating a new product and what it does, but truly understanding what the problem is and how your product solves it will help you have a stronger offer, which we're going to talk about in an upcoming episode. [00:04:05] When you paint a picture of what the problem is and then clearly contrast that with a detailed picture of the solution your product brings them and you explain how that's going to change their life and their business, then the real magic happens. That's when people really want to buy. So we're going to be talking about the quick wins and all of the longterm benefits that people get from using our product in the next episode. [00:04:33]. So I can't wait to see you there. Now, if you want to make sure you hear it, subscribe to the podcast if you haven't already. [00:04:40] And if you want to get the entire 12 step checklist that I'm using, and get all these questions that I'm asking myself as I'm preparing to beta launch my new course, you can go to personal brand journey.com and enter your email address and I will send it right over to you. [00:04:57] Now, if you found this helpful or if you've enjoyed the podcast, one of the best ways to say thank you would be to tell someone you know why they should be listening and what value they would get from it. It's a great way to say thank you and I appreciate it so much. [00:05:11] If you post it on Instagram, definitely tag me at Jamie M Swanson and yeah, I just appreciate you and I will see you in the next step. So. [00:05:19]


    Step 2: Who Exactly Will You Serve? Apr 21, 2020
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    Hey, it's Jamie here and this is the third podcast in a series all about how I am beta launching my new course. Now I'm walking you through the entire process step by step, and if you've missed the last couple of episodes where I went through the big overview of how I'm doing this and then started breaking it down, you're going to definitely want to go back to episode 12. [00:00:24]In season two and start there because that's the overview where I give you the big picture. And in here today I'm going to talk about the second step, which is who exactly are you going to serve and why? That's so important to know, [00:00:38] I'm going to tell you about the process that I'm using to get really specific with that and the mistake that you need to avoid. To make sure that you don't end up with nobody signing up for your beta course, right? We want to actually get people in the door. So the key thing in this is that we want to get as absolutely specific as possible with who we want to serve so that we can speak to their needs. More clearly now I see a lot of new entrepreneurs coming into the online space saying, Oh gosh, well, I could help anybody. I shouldn't narrow it down because then I might turn people away. [00:01:28] And I see this with photographers too. In the photography industry, people are like, Oh, I can photograph anything, and they don't want to get specific. But when you're trying to talk to a CEO who needs a very formal headshot. And to a new mom who wants newborn photos all in the same website page. Your messaging has to be so generic and broad in order to speak to both of them that it's not really gonna resonate with either of them nearly as well as if you were saying. [00:01:57] Speaking to one very specifically, and so the more specific you can get here, the more effective you can be. Now, this is hard for me too, because I know that this new course that I'm bringing into the world that's going to help people create this. Devoted group of advocates that are basically in a market for them for free. [00:02:18]This could really benefit anybody who sells anything online or not. But I can't just sell it to any entrepreneur because then my messaging to get the word out there is not going to be very tight. [00:02:31] In fact, even just saying it like that here isn't very tight because honestly, messaging is the hardest part, and so I've had to spend some time thinking about who is the type of person that I want to serve super specifically, just because I can help. Anybody who's an entrepreneur do this doesn't mean that I should, and it doesn't mean that it's going to be the best result if I try and keep it that broad. [00:02:57] So the more you can narrow it down and become specific, the more effective your messaging is going to be, plus the more effective your course content is going to be in helping them get results. And you need to be getting people results in your beta course so that they can give you testimonials and stories so that you can launch this again. [00:03:16] And have a, you know, a lot of momentum on your side. Get more people in it the next time you do it. So what I've done is I kind of sat down and said, who would the most fun person to be to work with and to have in this course, like who is already perfectly situated and ready to go to get results from what I want to teach right away? [00:03:37] Those people are going to be the best people for my beta course because if they're. In the right place and they're ready to get results, and I don't have to do a bunch of prep work beforehand, then it becomes easy and it becomes fun. So for me, I'm not going to be going after people who are just starting out, who don't know what they're going to sell, or maybe even are, you know, beta launching their very first product. [00:04:02] So if you're listening here and you're beta launching something and you've never sold anything online before, this is probably not going to be the best fit for you. This is going to be better for people who are already established on entrepreneurs who already have a product that sells, that they can scale. [00:04:22] So it doesn't have to be online education, but it does have to be something that they can sell in mass quantities and not a service like photography where you can only work with a handful of people yourself like you don't need. In fact, you wouldn't want 10,000 clients in a year. For photography. That would be a nightmare for them unless they want to do a big agency and scale that way. [00:04:46] I'm talking about people who sell courses, people who sell products that you know they can sell to thousands and thousands of people. Anything that can really scale where you can grow a very large group. Of raving fans who are just excited to tell everybody about what you're selling. And yes, this would work for people who do services, but I'm going to focus on the people who can scale because frankly, it's easier for me to customize my content and get them results when I know that everybody's on the same page for that. [00:05:21] Now, the other thing is that they have to be the vision. And strategy person for their business. I had a friend asked me this who said, Hey, should I send my team member through it? Would it be valuable for them? Now, they might get some value from it, but the way that I'm going to be teaching this course is going to be talking about a higher level business strategy and it's going to help people get a lot of clarity around what they're already doing. [00:05:46] Because I found that once people hit a certain level in business, specifically around six figures or. You know, maybe 200 to $300,000 their businesses are kind of messy and they've been doing a lot of it themselves, and they really need to clarify what they're doing and simplify it so that it can multiply. [00:06:04] That's kind of the three words that I live by is clarify, simplify, multiply. And so I need somebody who can make those decisions at a high level. Without having to consult a ton of people and who can see the vision and the strategy behind what I teach and set up the processes to implement that. So I'm looking for, [00:06:25] preferably people who are in the six figures, not only because they're already profitable and have something that sells, but they have a different mindset than somebody who's just coming in at the bottom level. I'm also looking for people who take action fast. This is especially important for a beta course because a big part of why I'm doing the beta course. [00:06:47] Is to get feedback from the people who are in the course itself so that I can make it better if I teach it again in the future, and so that I can get success stories from them as they implement it so that I can use those to promote the course in the future. I also am looking specifically for people who value building a community. [00:07:08] If somebody is just looking to sell a product and doesn't actually care if there's a community of people built around it, they're not going to be a good fit for this because community and connection is a big part of what I teach and what I do. Frankly, I really don't want people who are just in it to make money. [00:07:25] I want people who genuinely care about the people they work with. And about getting their clients results. That's really important for the strategy that I teach. If they aren't getting results, they're not going to be these raving advocates, these amazing fans who are willing to market for you because people don't do word of mouth advertising if they haven't gotten amazing results themselves. [00:07:45] So that's key. Like if they aren't doing that. And they don't have a product that actually gets people results. This isn't going to be a good fit for them because they're going to have to restructure everything they do. They might even need to recreate products, and that's going to put them way behind, but I do need those action takers who are ready and willing to take action on what I teach them so that they can start seeing results faster as opposed to slower. [00:08:10]I also want to make sure that the people who join this have a deeper purpose behind their business that other people can get excited about. So, for example, Stu McLaren, you've heard me talk about him a loads in season one of the podcast. He's still a dear friend of mine. I'm still in his mastermind and think he's great. [00:08:28] He attracts impact-driven entrepreneurs who want to make a difference in this world, who, yes, they want to make a ton of money so that they can leverage that money and really make the world a better place. That's a deeper purpose that a lot of people can get behind. In fact, when I heard that in his marketing videos the very first time he launched the tribe course that he sells. [00:08:49] I was sold because there are so many people online who show photos of themselves, but you know, with a personal jet behind them, or bro marketers with their flashy cars and their, you know, like fraternity dreams, let's just, unless there's call it what it is, you know, and I just, those aren't my people. I don't want people who are just in it for the money in the status and the fancy stuff. [00:09:12] Now, there's nothing wrong with having any of that stuff. But if that's their sole driver and they don't really care. If they change people's lives for the better and they don't really care about making an impact in the world or having a deeper purpose for their business, they're not my people. They're not going to be a good fit for this. [00:09:29] Because another big part of this that I teach is having this deeper purpose that other people can also rally behind. And so thinking through how I teach my course and. What kinds of people would be most likely to get results fast from it? I've been able to narrow this down to a very specific kind of person. [00:09:52] Now I'm focusing on values. I'm focusing on some of the milestones that they've hit. I'm not focusing on specific niches so much because it that doesn't really matter. Like people in different niches can definitely get results as long as they have some of these values. And they have a product or a course that they know they can scale that is already selling. [00:10:17] So those are some of those key things that have helped me narrow it down. So now my, my question to you is, if you're thinking about beta launching, or even if you're not and you're just learning from me, how can you get really, really specific with the kinds of people that you're trying to reach and attract into your business? [00:10:37] Who would be most likely to get benefit from what you're doing? Right away without you having to teach them a bunch of extra information first. Right. And in that, who would you love working with the most? Like, I love all online entrepreneurs, but it's way more fun for me to talk to somebody who's been in it for awhile, who already gets results, who understands more of the struggles of scaling than somebody who's just starting out and trying to pick the right software and figure out what their offers should be and all of those things. [00:11:11] But you know, I haven't had to worry about, and a long time, you know, it's way more fun for me to be working with somebody who is like me than somebody who is well behind me. And I think that I can serve those people better as well. So who do you love working with? The boast. Definitely take that into account. [00:11:27] And how specific can you get with defining who they are in terms of values and in terms of who's most likely to get results from you fast. And that's where I would start in terms of narrowing things down and getting specific. Now the nice thing about that is it's easier to speak to them more specifically when you do market this, and so they're gonna, they're going to know more. [00:11:49]Clearly and faster if this is a good fit for them or not. If you're listening to this and you're like, Oh man, this is totally me. I've been doing online business for awhile. You know, I've, I've had a course that I've been selling, but I just feel like I'm not getting the momentum I need. This might end up being a great fit for you, but if you're listening to this and you're like, Oh yeah, I've never really made more than $20,000 in my business, you know, I have an offer. [00:12:13] I doesn't really sell really well. Not sure if it's the right thing to sell or I don't know the platforms or. You know any of these other things, like as I went through my list, if you're like, ah, no, that's not really me, it's probably not the best fit for you. see how going through something like this and defining it will either help you feel like, Hey, I should really think about this versus, Oh, I probably don't need it. [00:12:35] people can self select whether or not this is a good fit for them. When you can clearly communicate. Who it is that you're trying to attract and why this is a good thing for them. Now, this isn't a sales podcast, like I'm not trying to sell you on this. I'm just trying to use that as an example. [00:12:52] Honestly, my messaging in this is not written in such a way that I would write it if I was trying to sell you on this. we'll talk about messaging in a few episodes from now, cause that's the hardest part of, of doing. A brand new course with a new market, because you just haven't worked with people long enough to know exactly what's going to resonate with them in a big way. [00:13:12]and messaging is something that you always will be tweaking, but the more clear you can get on who you want to serve, the easier it's going to be to create this messaging in the future. So even though you can help everybody. Don't, don't go specific. When I went from trying to serve all photographers to serving only personal brand photographers or photographers who wanted to do personal brand photography because it didn't really exist before then I lost 85% of my audience. [00:13:46]only 15% were interested in doing personal brand photography. I check those metrics really closely, but my income doubled. In just two years. It was so fast because I was very specific. My messaging was very, very tuned to exactly what they needed, and so it was more relevant and far more effective than trying to speak to just any photographer who wanted to know how to grow some kind of business online. [00:14:13] So there is riches in the niches as they say it is true. And the more specific you can get, the more. Effective. Your messaging will be, your course will be, you'll get better results and you get better people in the course. So get as specific as you can. Don't stay generic. You can always open it up later, but start with a very clearly defined core. [00:14:36] And honestly, I could probably even get more specific with this. This is all still a work in progress, but this is kind of where I'm landing right now. And, don't, don't be tempted to try and keep it open to just whomever, because the more specific it is, the more the right people will hear about it and resonate with it and definitely want to be part of it. [00:14:56] And that's what we're going for is those uncommon commonalities. Those really tight, resonances where they're like, Oh, that…

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    Step 1: What Should You Teach in a Beta Course? Apr 21, 2020
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    Did your business get hit as hard by the pandemic as mine did? I know it was very shocking to see all new sales stop and to see my membership drop by almost half simply because my clients and the audience that I work with is struggling themselves and none of them are allowed to work. They're all non-essentials and they can't do their jobs from home. So. I did get sucked into a fear for about 10 days, but then. I spent some time reflecting on how I wanted to use this space, this opportunity, and see it as something good instead of bad. And I decided to use this time to pivot into teaching something new to a new audience in a new market that I've never. Taught before, and I'm going to be beta launching this course really soon, and I promise to take you behind the scenes. Now. In the last episode, I walked through the step by step process that I'm going to be using to do that. In today's episode, I'm going to be sharing the very first. Step, which is how do you decide exactly what to teach in a beta course? So the first thing that I had to do was try and separate myself from my past. Now that sounds really funny. It might sound weird, but. I keep thinking about who I've been serving in the past, and you know what I've always done and how I've always done it. And it was really hard to break myself away from that, which I have to do because right now, photographers aren't spending money. I've been an online entrepreneur since 2011 and I absolutely love sharing what I know with other people. So it was really exciting for me to think about teaching something that I know to somebody completely different and trying out a brand new marketplace. Now the problem is I've got like a bajillion ideas. That I could share. I'm a homeschooling mama with six kids, with all the people crisis schooling right now, I have tons and tons and tons of information and resources and help that I could provide for those people, and it's a huge need right now. So that was one option. But I also have all this online entrepreneurial experience. I mean, I've been doing this successfully for what, nine years now, and I absolutely love it. And there's so many different things within the online business space that I could teach. And that's another area where people are really excited right now because they're home. They've got time to spend with, their families, but also with growing themselves, like if they are in a non essential job and laid off right now. They have plenty of time to think about starting and growing an online business, and there's tons of knowledge that I have that I could share with them on doing that. Not to mention I love to quilt. There's just all these things that I could do really any of my passions. I love sharing with other people and you don't have to be like some crazy expert in order to teach people online. You just have to be able to teach people who are one step. Behind you. So if you're, avid quilter, for example, and maybe you've been quilting for a couple of years and you really love it, but you don't feel like you really know everything. You could still teach quilters how to get started. You could teach them the basics, because right now is a great time for people to be started getting into hobbies because they've got extra time on their hands. For me, it wasn't a lack of ideas. It was just trying to narrow them down to figure out which one was going to suit me best during this time. And if I love it. I may continue teaching it after this time as well. I fully believe that my current business with photographers is going to pick right back up again once photographers are able to get out there and start shooting because it works really well. It's been a phenomenal movement. I know that it changes people's lives, so I know that that will come back and I will be able to continue moving forward with that. But right now, while that's kind of on a standstill, I want to use this time to try teaching something new that, if I really love it, I may continue to teach afterwards. So. All right. Here's some of the things that I was thinking about as I was trying to decide what I was going to teach. Okay, so number one was if I were starting over for the first time today, what is it exactly that I would want to do and become known for? Now, the reason I asked myself this is because everything's easier when you are fully aligned with and excited about what you're sharing. If you're just doing something for the money in your heart, really isn't in it. You're going to have a hard time truly being successful because our energy is so. Contagious. It just flows out of us. And when we get excited about something, other people get excited about it. Now, that's not to say that there aren't opportunities out there that you could do to make some money in the meantime, but if you really want to do something that you might continue doing longterm, I highly recommend it. Thinking about what you're super excited about and what you would geek out about just for fun, and I know for myself that when I'm really excited about a topic. It doesn't feel like work to me. I just get really excited about sharing it and that excitement flows over into the students who are taking the course with me. So I wanted to really think about what I would do if photography wasn't an option. And what really made me excited today, because. My interests have shifts shifted a ton in the last nine years. I love my photographers. I love the industry because I know it, and it really gave me my start into becoming an entrepreneur. But it's not passionate. I wouldn't pick photography today if I was starting over fresh and for my photographers listening, I don't want you to feel like I don't love you. I'm just trying to be really honest with myself and where my passions are. And part of that is because photography introduced me to this online business space, and that is really exciting to me. And so I've used this online. Marketing information that I've learned to apply to photographers and to teach to photographers so that they can grow their own businesses using these principles. Because that's the people I knew that's who were in my network. But today. I just get super excited about the online business strategy and working with entrepreneurs more than anything. There's nothing I love more than talking business and strategy. In fact, it's why I invest multiple five figures every year to be in a business mastermind where we get to travel to see each other three times a year. And sit around and talk business for a few days because that's like my dream vacation. Traveling, having fun and hanging out with other people who think that online business is just as fun to talk about as I do it is a really weird thing. I know I'm an oddball, but online entrepreneurs are my people. It's why I've been doing this podcast for free for the last year and a half without really making any money from it. Simply because I want to help other online entrepreneurs. I just absolutely love talking about business and strategy. there's tons of different ways that I could serve that audience. I had to start thinking about. How can I narrow that down a little bit? So for me, I realized that I really want to work with higher level entrepreneurs, not people who are just starting a brand new business. So if I'm going to launch this beta course, I'm not going to be launching like how to start your first course and what's all the tech you need. Like I want to talk. Strategy. I want to get into the nitty gritty stuff that's going to help people really accelerate their results, but I want to be surrounded by people who already have a base of knowledge and get it. They've been doing it. They've got some level of success, but they want to be in an incredible community together, geeking out over how to take this and grow it in a big way. Now, my superpowers are visioneering strategy and connection. And so I started thinking about how have I used those in my business already very successfully, and how can I bring this to. A group of higher level entrepreneurs in a way that would actually help them get results. So I know that my superpowers have been really great for running high level masterminds. But right now with people unable to meet in person, that's off the table. So maybe in the future, actually. I want to do that in the future. And you can listen to season one. There's lots of episodes that talk about masterminds and they're amazing, but right now that's probably not the best thing to beta launch because we can't meet in person. So I was thinking about what else I've been able to do with those super powers that might be unique to what other people are doing out there and teaching out there . One of the things that I've been able to do with this is build a crazy, loyal group of customers that have offered to help me with pretty much anything I need for free. In fact, I've had over a 10% of my paying clients join a Facebook group that literally for that exact purpose where they've said, Hey, Jamie. You know, if there's ever anything I can do for you, please let me know. I would be happy to help, and most of them feel this way because I've helped transform their own businesses and they're just thankful. I know for me, I would do that for Stu McLaren and a number of other entrepreneurs that I know because they've impacted me so deeply. That's, it's the least I can do to basically thank them for the progress that I've made in my own business and the success that I've had. That's huge. Like having over 10% of my people willingly join a group like that. Many of those came because I was getting email after email from people saying, Hey, how can I help you out? What can I do to help you move forward? And it's such a touching thing to have that. But I know that it's also a really rare thing and that many businesses do not get that kind of feedback from their customers. And so I was really thinking about how can I help online entrepreneurs who already sell something, create more of these advocates who are really willing to step up and do free marketing for them and be a part of a greater movement in their business. And. It's kind of like a free marketing group, right? And they're just these crazy, loyal customers that love me, that love what I'm doing, and genuinely want to help other people get the same results that they've gotten. It's a beautiful thing, and this is something that I've cultivated into my business really intentionally. And so as I was thinking through my superpowers, as I was thinking about the stuff that I geek out about, I realized. That this is the thing that I can bring to the table and help people grow in their own businesses. This is something that every entrepreneur who already has a product figure out, figured out, who already knows that they can sell it, can benefit from, because we all want to see our clients. Getting more results and being so thrilled with our business that they want to help in any way and they want to help others get results. And it's one of the most valuable things you can create for your business. So that's what my beta course is going to be about. So if you're thinking about doing a beta course, and you need to pivot right now, here's what I would ask yourself to figure out what it is that you would want. To teach? What could you bring it to the world that is gonna help somebody up, right? What could you beta launch? So number one, ask yourself what you're most passionate about and what you geek out over. Number two, ask if you were starting over from scratch, what would you want to be known for? And I know for me, that changed so much in the last nine years. I never would have been able to teach this nine years ago. But now with all my experience, it's. Easy for me to say, Oh yeah, I do this, this, this, this, and this thing to help get these results and to make these people feel connected to not just me, but my business and the deeper purpose behind my business. Like it's a whole movement that they want to be part of. So what is it that you know you can do now that maybe you couldn't have done a few years ago? Try and get really honest with yourself and say, okay. Today starting over? What would that thing be? And that's hard because we have all this like junk in our mind from what we've done in the past and what we're currently known for. Try and let that go as much as you can and say if it was brand new. Clean slate. What would I want to be known for today? Then ask yourself, what are your super powers? What are you really, really good at? And then how have you seen that play out in your current business? Like how has that shaped the successes that you've had? And is there any way that you can take these unique successes that you've had because of your gifts? And bring them to the world. So that's the process that I have used to pick the topic for my beta course. I hope you found this helpful. In the next episode, we're going to be going into step two, which is where we're going to talk about who this is for super specifically. Now, this is the place where most people make the biggest mistake, and if you make the biggest mistake here. You're going to end up probably not having anybody in your beta course. And so I know that sounds really obvious, like of course I know who it's for, but we're going to go a little bit more in depth in the next episode on why you need to get crazy specific on this and what that actually means. And then why that's so important to the success of your beta course. So if you haven't yet, please subscribe to the podcast. I'm going to be going through all 12 steps that I am following to beta launch this new course, taking you behind the scenes. you can get the entire checklist by going to personal brand journey.com and entering your email. We will send it out to you via email so that you can follow along. And then I'm going to be doing these little podcast snippets quick to explain each and every step so that you can get more detail on what each step looks like, so that if you want to beta launch a new course, you can too. So hope you found this helpful. If you know somebody who needs to hear it. Man, it would mean so much to me if you'd pass it on to them. And with that, I will see you in the next episode.


    My Beta Launch Method Checklist (Overview) Apr 18, 2020
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    Transcript: [00:00:00] I'm about to beta launch a new course to a brand new market with zero audience and absolutely no content created for it yet. Most people spend weeks or months preparing to launch something. I prefer to do it in days. In today's episode, I'm going to walk you through the step-by-step beta launch method I developed that allows me to launch crazy fast to show you how easy it can be done if you just get out of your own [00:00:26]way. [00:00:26] [00:00:26] I've been a full time online entrepreneur since 2011 and I do things differently than most online entrepreneurs. I mean, I started doing it the way that everybody tells you to, where you create lots of valuable free content so that you can build an audience and an email list and then ask them what they really want and need. [00:01:00] Then you create a product that fills that need. You set up your sales funnel and then you offer it to people and you hope that they buy it. It can take months, if not years, to finally get your product service or course out on the market. And I know this because that's what happened to me. It took me, I think, a good solid two years to create my very first course and get everything ready to go so that I could launch it. [00:01:27] Now the problem with that method is that. There's no money coming in while you're doing all that. There's lots of money being spent and you're taking a ton of time creating free content and getting everything set up and paying for all the softwares, and honestly, it's really easy to start overthinking things and get caught in that fear of failure and not actually ever putting it out there. [00:01:51] When you finally launch it. You have no idea if all that time and money spent is going to be worth it. I mean, what if people don't buy? What if you spend two years getting something ready to go and making it perfect and then nobody buys it? Right? I used to do it that way, but it's so risky and there are so many unknowns. [00:02:13] Plus it just takes so long before you finally start making money. But two years ago I found a much better way and I basically do things backwards now. I start by selling the thing that I want to sell before I've created it before. I've done pretty much any of the other steps with very minimal audience building. [00:02:36] I know sounds crazy, but I'll explain how I do it in a bit. Then. I create it with the people who join and I listen to what they need as we go. It's really a cocreation process that's very interactive. Then I leveraged the money that I made by selling that beta course to build an audience faster and create a final, more polished version of the course. [00:03:01] After that beta courses done. And I use the success stories from the initial beta course to market and promote it in the future. So I really do things backwards and actually the first time I bade a launch like this was about two years ago when I pivoted my business from working with any kind of professional photographer to specifically helping people who wanted to pivot into personal brand photography. [00:03:24] It was honestly kind of accidental. I wasn't planning on doing it. But it totally changed how I launched. and I made . And when I did it that way, I made just over $70,000 in that very first beta launch, and I was able to hit seven figures with that course alone in less than 18 months because I was able to invest the money I made up front in that first beta course launch to grow much faster. [00:03:56] Now you can listen to all the details about that specific beta launch in here. All the reasons why I think beta launching is the only way to launch a new product in episodes 10 and 11 from season one of the podcast. But this upcoming beta launch I'm doing is a little bit different. Because this time I don't have an email list to leverage like I did in the last launch, and I'm offering it to a completely different audience and market. [00:04:23] It's a complete pivot with no overlap with what I've been doing. And so I've had to get really creative with how I'm going to market this and get it in front of people. Now I'm doing this because the coronavirus has cut my sales down in my photography education business over 80% and so they are way down from what they were. [00:04:45] Because frankly, if photographers can't be doing photography right now and so they're not spending money at the moment, so I'm choosing to see this time as the perfect time to launch something new and a completely different space instead of focusing on the fact that everything is failing right now in my regular business because people aren't spending money there. [00:05:05] I know that'll take off when they can get out and start working again. But in the meantime, it's kind of a beautiful gift to myself to be able to go after something new and try something that I've been wanting to do and teach for a long time, but haven't yet. So if you want to hear the whole story of how I came to this point, go back a few episodes to the start of season two and start listening from there as season two released right after the pandemic hit, and we are all starting to get the stay at home orders. [00:05:32]But in today's episode. I'm just going to give you the overview of the beta launch method that I'll be following to launch this new course in a brand new market. Then in the next few episodes, I'm going to take you behind the scenes and how I'm actually doing. Each step of the process so that you can do it too if you want to. [00:05:52] So this is really the big picture. I'm not going to tell you what I'm doing for each step here that's coming in the next few episodes. So definitely subscribe if you want to hear exactly how I'm going to do each of these steps in detail so that you don't miss them. I don't want you to miss a single step because they're really important. [00:06:10]So if you want to get a copy of this checklist that I'm going to go through today so you don't have to scribble notes really fast, or you know, if you're doing the dishes or something, you don't have to worry about stopping and taking notes I need to do is sign up via email for our weekly newsletter at personalbrandjourney.com and I'll send it right over to you. All right, so let's dive into the checklist that I'm doing in this beta launch method. [00:06:35] Okay. So number one, the very first thing I did, and this was really hard for me, was to get super aligned with what else I would do if I wasn't doing photography education, what's most true to me? what would I love to be known for? Now, I haven't asked myself this question in a few years, and so it was really hard for me to step away from what I've done in the past and think, okay. [00:07:02] What might I want to be known for if it's not personal brand photography or if it's not in the photography industry. If everything was opened up and I was starting from fresh, what would it be? So that's where I'm starting because I know that when we're most aligned with what we're doing and we are really excited about it and geek out about it in the craziest of ways, we will grow so much faster. [00:07:25] Next up. I wanted to get really clear on who this is for. Super specifically. A lot of people call this the ideal client avatar. There's lots of different ways to find this, but for me, I had to get very, very clear on exactly who I wanted to serve with this and who I could help most in this area of alignment that I wanted to be known for. [00:07:47] Step three was to identify the acute super painful problem that these people have that is going to get them to pull out their credit card now so that I can help them with the solution, which brings me to step four. Is identifying what wins are they going to get when they go through my beta course. Now I'm looking at both quick wins because people want to get some sort of result fast, but also what kind of longterm transformations are going to happen when they apply the method and the framework that I'm going to be teaching them. We need that quick win to keep that momentum going. Plus, that quick one really helps us with collecting success stories, which is super important when you're doing a beta launch. But you don't want to forget about how this all works long term. [00:08:38] So I like to have both of those. So I'll explain all of that when I talk through step four later in step five. And this one is really hard. You have to really sit down and say, what makes this new or different from what's already out there and not just better, better is not enough. Better is great, but it's really hard to sell better because if they've tried somebody else's course or method doing what you want to teach and they haven't gotten results with it, and yours is the same, it's just better. [00:09:10] You know? In your mind, are you trying to convince them that it's better. It doesn't matter because they're like, Oh yeah, I've already tried that. It didn't work. Even if I try it and do it better, I still don't think it's going to work. You have a lot more to overcome now when you have something new or slightly different from what other people are doing, it makes it so much easier for somebody to join because they haven't tried it before. [00:09:33] They're like, Oh, well, I tried part of it, but I've never tried it with this angle or this hook, and so having something new or different is really important . Step number six is getting really clear on what the exact offer is. What's the format going to look like? How much is it going to cost? [00:09:50]How am I going to deliver it? All of those things need to get outlined in very specific. Step seven is developing the content framework that I'm going to teach in this beta course. This honestly has been the most time consuming part for me because I am teaching something that I do naturally. I do this without even [00:10:12] Thinking and I have built it into my business in so many different ways, that having to extract it and putting it into frameworks that I can teach to others has definitely taken a lot of time, but it's also been the most fun thing I've done in a really long time. So I can't wait to share that with you and tell you a little bit more about the content that I'm going to be teaching when I get to the podcast. [00:10:33] On step seven. Step eight is really figuring out what messaging is going to resonate with people when I explain it to them. So they want to be part of the beta course. [00:10:45] This is super duper hard because I know that what I have to teach can help a ton of people. But it's different than what other people are teaching. And it's really hard to explain something that's new and different. So I'm going to talk with you all about how I'm going to message it and how I'm going to explain it to people so that it's clear and it shows them why they should join. [00:11:07] honestly messaging changes over time. As you're doing a beta course and as you are running your business and talking to your people and getting to know them, having conversations with them, it's going to shift and change. You're going to refine it. It's going to become more clear, but you've got to start somewhere. [00:11:25] And so that's all of what step eight is about, is trying to figure out how do I explain this? So people really want to have it now and are willing to try. A beta course with me before I've even proven that I can teach this effectively. Step nine is to really identify the barest essentials that I need to launch this, so what technical pieces do I need to have set up? [00:11:46] How am I going to communicate with people and what platforms am I going to use? All of that sort of stuff is what you figure out in step nine. Step 10 is about how I'm going to market this with the no audience. what am I going to do to get in front of the right people so I can start getting people into this beta course and get some momentum building. [00:12:09]Step 11 is getting really clear on how I want to build the audience, what platform I want to use. Am I going to use email? Am I going to use podcasting, etc. And where I'm going to grow this new audience. Step 12 is just the details of when I'm going to open my cart and what I'm going to do during the open cart phase to try and get more sales in to the. [00:12:34]Beta launch. [00:12:35]So that's the process that I'm using to beta launch something brand new and a new market where I have zero audience. [00:12:42] No, I'm totally going to share how the launch is going with you, and I'm going to tell you. All the behind the scenes stuff, as I'm doing it as much as I can so that you can stay caught up with me as I launch this brand new beta course. But in the meantime, if you haven't yet, please subscribe so that you don't miss any of the coming episodes that are going to talk through. [00:13:05]How I'm doing each and every step in detail. [00:13:08] And those are going to be coming right after this one. So subscribe now so you don't miss any of them. And if you want to get a copy of this checklist delivered right to your inbox, simply go to personal brand journey.com and sign up there and I will send it to you via email And finally, if you found any value in this, and if you know somebody else who's either moving into an online business after having run a brick and mortar business and is now shut down because of the pandemic and they really want to try launching something new, or if you know somebody and they're pivoting into something new and you think that they might find this useful. I would really appreciate it if you would take a moment to share this episode with them. [00:13:52]that would just be a really great way to. Say, thank you for the info you've learned here. [00:13:55] So that's it for today. Can't wait to see you in the next episode, or we're going to talk about step one, how to pick this new idea, this new course, and get super aligned with what you're going to be teaching so I'll see you there in the next episode right after this. [00:14:10]


    Should You Work or Rest Right Now? Apr 02, 2020
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    I couldn't help but to ask myself the question, what if I just rest? For awhile I found myself frantically working and not getting any results. I was starting to feel really jealous of the people who were sheltering in place with their families and could just chill out a little bit and enjoy, cooking and making puzzles and. [00:00:20]Taking up instruments and all the things. And here I was frantically working and pushing and pushing and not getting results. And so I had to ask, why am I doing this? What would things look like if I just rest? And maybe you find yourself in that same position. Should you keep pushing hard? Should you take some time and rest? [00:00:38] How should you best spend this time during the shelter in place to make sure that you and your business come out of this as best as you possibly can? That's what I'm going to talk about in today's episode. [00:00:49] So last week, I think in the last episode that I posted, I talked about how I'm going to be beta launching a brand new course, which I'm really excited about and I haven't given up on that idea, but I found myself later that evening after I published it. [00:01:18]Exhausted, just emotionally tired. I had been pushing and pushing and pushing for a couple of weeks without hardly taking any time to breathe and I was making decisions left and right and left and right and I mean, I did 10 FOD gassed episodes in a few days and just really found myself determined to just work harder and just push harder and make things happen. [00:01:44]And they just weren't happening. And I was getting really frustrated and in tired and there was all this news about this new stimulus bill that was going to be coming out, the cares act. And so I just took some time and I said, you know what? I'm going to take the weekend off. I think it was Friday when I decided this, and I'm going to take the rest of Friday and then all of Saturday and Sunday and I'm not going to make any decisions and I'm just going to let my mind go wherever my mind wants to go because. [00:02:14] I found that one of the ways that I feel valuable is by doing things like when I can Mark things off my checklist, I feel good, But I wasn't actually getting any results. It wasn't bringing money into my business. It was taking time away from my family and I was getting really exhausted. [00:02:32]And so I wanted some time just to think, when you find yourself jealous of people who are sheltering in place and not able to work on their normal jobs, you know, that's probably a sign that you need to step back a little bit and find some balance. So. I slowed down a little bit and I gave myself some time to really just let my mind wander. [00:02:53]I took this really long, 10 mile snowshoe. It was five and a half hours because, I dunno if you've ever snow shoot or not, [00:03:01] but the feeling that you get when you're snowshoeing on your feet, it's kind of like having soaking wet tennis shoes that are caked with a half an inch of mud around the outsides of the shoes. They're just really heavy. It's a lot of extra weight to carry, and I was going up and down these Hills on super soft snow because yes, we have a ton of snow here still, and it was just exhausting, but awesome. [00:03:24] It's been a long time since I've moved my body so much, and at one time, actually it's been since my race back in February. And it just felt really, really good to be out on the trails. And I listened to some audio books. I talked to some friends on the phone. Did, you know, our phones could be used to talk to people. [00:03:40] Like I never use my phone as a phone. It was really cool. So I talked to a couple of friends on the phone. and I, Just really spent that time thinking and listening to music and podcasts and atomic habits by James clear, which by the way, absolutely fantastic. Highly, highly recommend it, but I just kind of let my mind go wherever and didn't make any decisions and didn't. [00:04:02]Try to think about anything or try to figure anything out. And I kind of used it as this flow meditative state, even though it wasn't like meditation, where I would sit for a while on a cliff and then I'd go hike a bunch more, and then I'd sit on a different cliff, and then I'd hide back to the first cliff. [00:04:20] And I did this kind of pattern back and forth where it was physical exercise, but also just like this mental freedom. And I rarely. Give myself that kind of space to just let things happen. what I decided to do was that moving forward, I'm still going to do the beta course. I'm really excited about that, but I decided not to do that this week. [00:04:40] I decided to take a week and really take some time to apply for the stimulus stuff because the income and my business is pretty much stopped. And so when I heard that that was coming, I wanted to have everything set up and in place so that I could. Apply for that as soon as possible, [00:04:55] and so I took some time to get all of that stuff set up. One of my team members got sick, and so I, have some extra content duties that I had to do and just really took this week to try and figure out exactly what do I need to do going forward if I were to rest more. But not completely give up on my photography business. [00:05:14] I want to keep sustaining that. I want to keep nurturing my people so that when everything comes back and they can go out and do photo sessions and you know, get back to life in a more normal way, it'll never be the exact same, but at least start working again and bringing income. And again that I can pick right up where I left off and really start serving them well. [00:05:34] So I want to still be with them and serving them this time. But I really looked at my week and said, how can I do less while still keeping that momentum going so that I can have the space that I need to do this beta course and to be with my family and not just run myself ragged because it makes me feel good. [00:05:51]Getting something done, you know, that frantic work pace, it's not healthy. It can't be sustained longterm. And so that's kind of where I'm at this week. Like I said, I'm doing a bunch stuff that's just not fun. Nobody wants to go apply for stimulus loans and whatever else. But I've come to this really great place of peace, even though it's been one of the hardest weeks I've had maybe ever. [00:06:13]I've had to make some really hard decisions this week. And even though it's been really hard, there have been so many bright spots in it, and I feel hope moving forward and I feel peace about everything. I'm excited about the transformation that's happening within me personally. [00:06:28] I'm not freaking out anymore the way I was, and yeah, I've got a few moments here and there where I start to feel a little bit of anxiety, but for the most part, I'm really excited about this shift that it's allowing me to make. I'm really excited about how people have started coming together again. I have loved reconnecting with some friends in ways that I haven't in years, and even though we aren't connecting. [00:06:52] In person right now. It's just so nice to see people doing more stuff with their families and connecting with their friends. I've been seeing more of the positives and I'm loving, even though I'm not loving it, like I'm loving that this is such an awesome opportunity for personal growth and I just really want to look back on this time, like a year from now. [00:07:12] I want to look back. And I want to be like, well done, Jamie, you did this great. And so I'm trying to see. Everything through that lens like a year from now, how will I have wanted to walk through this time? And I decided that I don't want to run frantically just because it feels good to feel busy, but I want to go through it smartly. [00:07:31] I want to continue working. I want to keep the momentum going. I want to continue taking the right kinds of actions. But I also want to use this time to help me make the pivot that I've been planning for a couple of years now. I really have wanted to work with entrepreneurs and influencers for ages, and so if I can help them create a raving fan base of people who just love them and want to buy from them and just really nurture their communities in a super deep way and build these movements of people around their business. [00:08:01]That just brings me great joy. I'm really excited about that. So that's what I'm going to be doing going forward. you know, I'm going to keep doing what I'm doing. I'm going to keep working on the podcast stuff, and I'm going to share all the behind the scenes stuff that's coming. . And then next week I'm actually going to be doing a podcast with rusty rial. He invited me to be a guest on his podcast. yeah, I'm excited about that and I want to continue, reaching out for those kinds of opportunities and getting the word out there because right now it's a great time. [00:08:29]To be guests on other people's stuff cause you have more time than normal. So that's on the docket. but really the focus next week is going to be mostly on clarifying my messaging for the new course, figuring out exactly what my framework looks like and trying to get all this stuff that I know how to do out of my head and into a really clear framework and start prepping to launch that. [00:08:49] So I want to do a bunch of conversations with people and try and get some of The frustrations and the struggles that they have in their own words. So I can use that as I'm promoting it, because the clearer your messaging can be, the more specific it can be, the more effective it's going to be. So, yeah, that's kind of what I'm looking at doing moving forward. I'm still committed to podcasting what's happening, but I just wanted to encourage you as you're going through this time, that it's okay to take a little bit of a step back and breathe especially if your business is really struggling or it's closed or there's things you can't do to increase sales. [00:09:22] Like the amount of effort it takes to get sales right now is so much bigger than it normally is. hopefully it will get easier later in summer and that this won't take too long. But if you find yourself just spinning your wheels, staying busy because that's what your anxiety is pushing you to do and it's not actually getting results, maybe it's time to step back. [00:09:41] Take a deep breath and just take a day where you're not making decisions. Spend some time with your family and loved ones that are with you in place. Obviously, get out in nature and move your body or go for a walk And give yourself a little bit of thinking space. [00:09:56] Maybe you make some art, maybe you play some music, do something that gets you out of your element and lets your brain just do its thing without the pressure of having to figure things out or make decisions or know how you're going to pay the bills. Just give yourself. a breather a day, a couple of days. [00:10:13] You know what you can do so that when you come back to this and you're ready to dive back in, you can do it with balance. You can do it with focus and you can feel a deep peace coming into it. Knowing that. This is going to ultimately help you in the end, but that you're not coming at it from a place of anxiety and compulsion. [00:10:32]And that's what I was doing. So I'm still going to be moving forward. I just am slowing down a little bit, which is really hard for me cause I'm a quick start and I get a lot of my worth from my doing. And so it was a really good lesson to learn. And you know, I also encourage you to document this time in some way. [00:10:47] I like to use the Otter app. O. T. T. E. R. it's this free app that lets you do voice dictation and it immediately transcribes what you say it's really cool. And so I've been using that sometimes when I'm out and about. And I just have a couple of thoughts quick. [00:11:02] And when I say out and about, I mean on the trail, not out like with people. So I'm still definitely sheltering in place. Don't send me massive messages, angry at me for being out, but I live in the woods. And so for me to go outside is very easy. On my 10 mile snowshoe, I did not see a single person because that's how remote it is. [00:11:20]but I love the Otter app because I can pull it out wherever I am, and I can just. Speak into it and have a place to capture my thoughts as I go through this, because sometimes things will hit you at the craziest times and it's really nice to have something fast to capture that. But also. [00:11:38]I want you to be able to really learn from this time we have been given this awesome opportunity of this struggle that we all get to do together. It's actually really kind of cool that we all get to go through a really tough time together. I think it's gonna really draw us together as people in general. [00:11:53]But difficult times, even though they super suck, have such gifts to give us if we're just willing to look for them. And the amount of personal growth that can happen when you're under pressure is just so huge. And I know that you can do hard things as Glennon Doyle says, that's from her book, untamed, phenomenal book. [00:12:14] If you haven't read it, highly recommended all sorts of recommendations today. but you can do hard. Things you can get through this. You just have to take it one day at a time, one step at a time, and we're all in this together, you know? I know not everybody is struggling, which is great. I'm really happy for the people who aren't, but the majority of the world right now Is stressed out by this. They're affected by the pandemic and I know that we are going to come out on the other side and that there are beautiful things for you to learn and see and experience despite the darkness. There's always a light somewhere to find, so find that light. Find your balance. No, you're going to get through this. [00:12:55]And give yourself some space to breathe and then start moving forward with intention. I'm super excited. Can't wait to share it. I'm going to be doing in the next episode in terms of launching this new beta course. So definitely subscribe. If you haven't. If you are a podcaster and you are looking for guests, I would love to be on your podcast if the messaging fits for your audience and we can talk about that. [00:13:17] Just send me a DM on Instagram @JamieMSwanson would love to chat with you to see if it's a good fit. And if you know anybody else who would find this podcast helpful, definitely spread the word for me. I would really appreciate that. So would that my friend. I will catch you in the next episode. You have a great day.


    I'm Making a BIG Pivot - Should You Pivot Too? Mar 26, 2020
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    Okay, my friend, it's happening. My business is struggling so bad that I am totally making a massive pivot. Huge pivot, and I'm going to tell you all about that in today's episode and help you discover if maybe you should pivot to. [00:00:18] [00:00:18] [00:00:33] So yesterday I spent a good deal of time journaling out how I wanted to come through this really difficult time in my business when it was clearly not going to be making it. I'm losing income. My members are canceling because they're, they don't have any money to pay for the membership, and my sales have slowed to a complete stop. [00:00:55] And so I don't have much money coming in. my income is down a ton, and I know I'm not the only one for whom that's happening. [00:01:03] But I knew I needed to take some time to really examine what that meant. And there's kind of two ways you can approach this. Like one, you can think about all the costs that you can cut and you can think about how you can pull back. And I talked to my bank and I talked to them about all the different options we had there. [00:01:19] And there's always the option of taking on debts. And. All this stuff that I just, I don't want to do it. I don't want to do it, and I will, and I have in the past, but I just really hate focusing on the reduction airy stuff because it feels. Hopeless. There's only so much you can cut. I prefer to focus on abundance on on growth, and what can I do to make more money in a time where I have an online business, I have a lot of skills and just because my photography business is not working right now. What I'm doing in the photography industry isn't working right now because that industry has been chopped off at its knees. I mean, it is not doing well. It's not my fault. Doesn't mean that I can't make something work in a different area, in a different niche. [00:02:09] And so as I was thinking about how I wanted to move forward to read this, I realized that I wanted to move away from thinking about all the things that I was going to lose and all of the things that could happen if money stopped coming in and think about how I could bring in additional income instead. [00:02:27] Now. I didn't want to completely give up my business altogether because I genuinely believe that when this is done and people can get out there and start doing photography again, that there's going to be more online entrepreneurs and influencers than ever. And so personal brand photography is going to flourish. [00:02:43] Like I think after this, it's going to be amazing. It's kind of like when winter comes and everything dies and you know, it's all, it's not debt, it's dormant. All the leaves fall off. The snow covers everything and. The life just feels God. It is. It's a really hard, dark black and white kind of season, but then the snow melts off eventually. [00:03:07] I wish it would melt off here sooner and the the leaves start to grow again. The grass starts to grow. Grit again. In fact, I already have seen some Moss peeking through the snow on a few rocks and it just brings me life. It makes me so happy. I'm super obsessed with Moss. But life is going to come back through this, and in just a few months, everything's going to explode with growth and it's just going to be a totally different transformed environment. [00:03:35] And I feel like that's what's happening right now within the personal brand photography industry, is that everybody's at home. Nobody can do photography right now, and we're just sitting dormant and all the stuff that we've lost and all of the things that have fallen apart. Are being covered by snow and they're laying on the ground and they're going to decompose and that through this challenging long, silent time that feels really dead and depressing and difficult. [00:04:04]There's going to be beautiful growth that happens. Like all those things that go down in the ground and decompose are going to be the exact elements and fertilizer that has been needed to fuel this new beautiful growth that's coming. And so I don't want to give my business up completely because I know that once things turn around. [00:04:25] Everything is going to be so much easier. Like I think this is just going to take off like nuts. So I don't want to completely close my business. I have a friend who's doing that. She's literally shutting the doors to her business in about a week. And , she's happy about it, which is great, but it's scary and I don't want to do that. [00:04:43] I don't want to completely give it up. But. I need to find something else to bring in income right now. So as I was thinking about what I wanted to do during this time, I started thinking about all the different things I could do. So one, I could do some freelancing. So I'm a really great copywriter. I'm phenomenal at community management. [00:05:04] And I thought about offering to work for whoever might need. Even I had a friend, even I had a friend, I had a friend even offer to hire me as a community manager during this time because they're looking for help on that. And. I thought about it and it just didn't sit right. Not because I don't want to work for my friend. [00:05:21] She would have been phenomenal to work for, but because doing freelance work right now for me, felt like it would kill all the momentum that I'd been building in my business and in my personal brand because I wouldn't have the same amount of time. To podcast to work on my own business, you know, whatever it is. [00:05:38] And one of the things I want to pivot into is obviously growing my personal brand and I really want to help people create real movements, not just audiences. And I really want to help people understand how to activate their communities and grow them. Cause that's one of my super powers. I am so good at connecting with people and helping people connect with each other and building that engagement. [00:06:03]Within a business, I can get people to engage like crazy. , so this morning I was watching a Facebook live from Stu McLaren and he happened to bring me up as an example for something, and I was chattering away in the comments and I kind of offhandedly had mentioned that I'm thinking about doing something within the community space and helping people really grow thriving communities or pivoting in some way during this time until I'm able to come back to this. [00:06:31] And my lovely friend Lisa Kay, she was there and she chimed in and she's like, yeah. I am your ideal client. I would love that. I would definitely want to be a part of that if you want. I'd be happy to hop on a call with you and talk through what it is that I would love to learn and all my issues, and basically let me pick her brain so that I could figure out exactly what my offer could be. [00:06:55]. So we jumped on a video chat right then and there, and we ended up spending two hours talking back and forth about what she needed in her business, how I could help, what would make this a win for her. [00:07:09] What kind of messaging resonated with her most? what my framework might look like, what the format might look like, all of it. Like it was the best two hours I have spent in my business in a long time because I learned so much information in such a short amount of time. That was such a gift to me, Lisa, and if you're listening to this. [00:07:31] Thank you. Thank you, thank you. I know it was a win win because you learned some stuff too, but if you guys can talk to the people you want to serve and allow them to speak to you about what they're struggling with, what they really want. learn their language for what they say. Cause I was thinking about building movements and she's like, Oh, that's heavy. [00:07:52] I don't want all the social justice stuff behind it. And I'm like, Oh yeah, there's kind of this idea of what a movement is. And it's different from what I consider a movement to be like. It can be both. And it was like, Oh, using the word movement is not the best messaging for this. And so we talked through some of that and it was so, so helpful. [00:08:14] And I just. Use that time with her to really help craft my offer. I even said like, which of these would appeal to you more like building an active community or learning how to engage people in your business? Because so much of what we offer isn't like the actual content, because the content would be the same. [00:08:33] Either way. It's figuring out what language the people who really need us would use and resonate with so that they want to buy what we have. And so I'm probably going to do a Facebook group for, I don't know how many weeks. I'm going to guess that it's going to be six weeks, maybe it'll be eight weeks. [00:08:52] I'm going to do it totally beta style, and we're going to cocreate it. I'm going to bring people in. I'm going to do it exactly like I launched by personal brand photography course. It's going to be totally off the cuff in that I'm going to do it live. I'm going to have a huge. Big picture like topics, but I'm not going to know exactly what lessons I'm going to do from day to day because in part, that's going to depend on the questions that people are asking and what they really need to know. [00:09:19] Because what I know is that when we are really good at something, we take it for granted and we forget what people don't know. Like for us it's like, Oh yeah, well that's obvious. Of course we do this, or for me it's like, Oh yeah, well, when you start a group. At the beginning you have to drive that engagement, but at some point, , things get easier and other people start to own the group and feel ownership towards it and engage with it too. [00:09:43] And then more and more people begin to comment and build that up, and then you can step back a little bit. You still leave, but you don't have to be the main person leading all the stuff. And then as more and more people adopt that. You go into this phase of them inviting their friends, because now they own the group, they feel a sense of ownership towards it, and they're super engaged and they think it's awesome. [00:10:05] And so now they naturally want to bring their friends in even without you asking them to, and you go through this period of really fast, big growth. And then you come to a point where. There's old people who are kind of upset that it isn't as intimate as it used to be and that there are all these brand new people coming in asking the same question over and over and over again instead of searching, you know what I'm talking about. [00:10:30] Right. And. It gets so big that it's almost too big and you kind of get this divide. It's not the same. The old people are upset. The new people aren't really getting engaged in the culture fast enough. And then how you handle that can determine whether the group totally falls apart and becomes disengaged or if it actually morphs into something better that can grow further. [00:10:53] Well, this is stuff I like take for granted. I don't even think about it anymore cause I've just know it like I've seen it happen with several groups. I've learned that and she's like, Oh my gosh, that's gold. And if you forget, if you don't talk to people. And so I was really excited about the idea. Of doing this together and co-creating this course around helping people get engagement and build communities of people who actually show up and communicate. [00:11:18] Because from memberships, if you can get people to stay engaged in a community and to actually do the work that you're doing and if they do it, they're going to get results. If they connect with people there, they're going to be less likely to leave. It's a beautiful retention strategy. [00:11:33]But also if you have a free group, there's ways to do it so that those people actually become buyers and aren't just freeloaders, are just there to pitch their own stuff. And for most people, I know they're afraid to do a free group because it's a burden to them [00:11:47] And they don't know what to put in a free group versus what to put in a paid group so that they're paid. Members don't feel like they're missing out. And like, there's all this stuff that I've thought about and that I've, that I've done, and that works really well for me and my business. And it's not just Facebook groups, like I know how to engage email lists and social media accounts, and it's just what I do naturally. [00:12:08] And the more engaged your people are with you and your business, the more money you're gonna make. [00:12:12] I just get really excited about the idea of helping people, like you create communities and places where people go first to spend their time during the day. So many people are online right now sitting at home during this Corona virus stuff. Where are they spending their time? I want them to be spending time in your groups, on your platforms, on your social media accounts, engaging there because when you have their attention, you're going to grow. [00:12:41] You just are. The more you can do that, the better. And so many people get a ton of engagement and a ton of activity around a launch. And then it just kind of Peters out and they don't know how to keep it going. They don't even know how to do conversations with them or build that engagement or get people to connect or any of that stuff. [00:12:56] So that's what I want to do. Like we talked about this for two hours, you can probably hear how excited it makes me because it's totally my jam. Like I love this so much. So she really helped me craft my offer. She helped me realize that I actually want to work with entrepreneurs who already have a business and a product so that they can accelerate that. [00:13:14] Like she's been doing this a long time. She's got a podcast, she's got the email, she's got a book, she's got a product, she's got the stuff. She doesn't need to learn how to build an email list. There's plenty of people out there teaching that. She needs to learn how to engage those people in a deeper way. [00:13:30] And make them most of the assets that she's already created so that she can start really leveling up. She's like, I've done all this stuff, but I'm just not making that progress. And I'm like, I can help with this. I know how to do this stuff. And engagement is the key, not just in a group, not just in a community, but in your entire business. [00:13:50] , I love this stuff. I love. This stuff. So that's what I'm going to do. I'm absolutely going to beta launch this course as soon as I can possibly get it all together and I move fast. The only thing that's going to slow me down is I am determined to podcast through this all so that if you are sitting there and you're thinking that maybe you need to make a big pivot, maybe you're a photographer. [00:14:13] And you're like, you know what, I love photography, but I need to be doing something else right now. Maybe you want to do some graphic design teaching or teach people how to use their images, whatever it is. Maybe you have an idea for a course that you want to sell and you just don't know how to do it. [00:14:28] How do you even launch that? Maybe you like to knit or quilt like I do. I love to quilt and maybe you want to do some quilting tutor…

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    How to Overcome the Fear of Losing Everything Mar 26, 2020
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    Yesterday was a pretty tough day for me. If I can be completely honest. I couldn't shake this sense of fear that I had, that things were never going to work out and that we were going to lose everything. And I want to talk to you about how I handled that, because when we're faced with that kind of fear, we have two big ways of responding to it. [00:00:20] Number one, we can wallow in fear and. Get paralyzed and not be able to move forward. Or number two, we can face it and take certain actions that are going to help us overcome. So I'm going to share with you today what I did to help overcome the fear that I had yesterday and put myself into a much better place today where I'm excited. [00:00:43]I am hopeful and I'm being driven by positivity and not fear. [00:00:48] [00:00:48] So yesterday I released eight podcast episodes and I did a new show with my photographers called the bright side show, where I focused on the wonderful positive things that were happening in the photography industry. And I just got stuff done. Like we are talking one of the most productive days ever, and by mid afternoon I was starting to feel a lot of anxiety because I was doing all this stuff. And it wasn't working. Like my industry is struggling in such a big way right now. So even though I'm able to help photographers book clients, because there are still people booking clients, most people don't believe it's possible. [00:01:46] And so they're not even trying. They're even discouraging other people from trying. And it's so frustrating to see that. And I just got really down seeing that. and even when they are booking clients, like they're keeping the money because they need to, things are really tough right now and they're not buying my course. [00:02:05]I've had a bunch of people cancel and my membership because money is suddenly tight without all the sales and the clients that they normally have. we're down at least, I think we're down about 20% right now. If I, if my really quick glance at the numbers is somewhat accurate. And it's a scary place to be. [00:02:20] And so I was doing all of this work and just feeling like it wasn't going to go anywhere. And so the question at the forefront of the mind and my mind, so the question at the forefront of my mind was, how long do I keep doing this? How long do I keep pushing and pushing and pushing. And just seeing results drop. [00:02:43] I mean, seeing my income go down, seeing no new sales coming in, like when do I throw in the towel and make a massive pivot and how do I do that? Like I have a photography audience. I don't have a massive audience in the entrepreneur space. You listening right now, this podcast is the only thing I've done intentionally to really try and serve entrepreneurs. [00:03:08] Or anyone outside of the photography business. And so it was kind of daunting. Like I've always wanted to work with entrepreneurs, and that's what part of why I love personal brand photography is because I get to serve both entrepreneurs and photographers, but I haven't ever really went after that directly because one, I believe that having focus and consistency in a business is one of the most important traits you can have. [00:03:33] And I didn't want to get distracted by it, but to. The photography stuff has always made us the money. I mean, I've been doing that since 2011 it's been fully supporting our families since 2011 and so there was never really time or space to go after a new market or new clients or do something completely new where I'd have to start audience building from scratch. [00:03:57] Because this is where we needed to put our focus. This is what I needed to spend my time on because we don't have other outside income. This fully supports my entire family, all our benefits, everything. And so stepping outside of the realm that I was used to doing and used to serving that was supporting us felt really risky. [00:04:17]. In fact, this podcast has been my pet project to really be able to serve entrepreneurs. And I know like the more you understand the value of personal branding, the more likely you're going to be to hire a personal brand photographer. So it builds the entire industry. [00:04:33] But I haven't really done much of anything to monetize this podcast, and it's been the thing that's gone on the back burner when things were really busy in the business doing other things because it wasn't a moneymaker. And sometimes you just got to put your head down and focus on the things that make money So I found myself really anxious and I saw all of this frantic work, which made me feel better because I accomplished something. But it wasn't getting results and I kept hearing the story go through my head every once in a while when I was talking to other people. You've heard it here on the podcast, or even just as I was thinking through stuff, I kept hearing we might lose everything. [00:05:13]Go through my head and there's absolutely the possibility that we might lose everything, but that was starting to replay in my head over and over again. Now, I came to a really healthy acceptance of that fact a couple of days ago where I'm like, you know what? It's all stuff. It doesn't matter. It's, I mean. [00:05:33] First world problems truly to, , have to downgrade your house and your living situation or whatever else. Not a big deal. , I mean, if we can come out of this healthy, I'm going to be thrilled. so I came to a healthy acceptance of that, but when it came to what I was hearing happening in my mind, those voices, those stories that we tell ourselves in our mind. [00:05:53]It was coming up more often than I liked and I wasn't hearing the narrative of this might be the best thing ever. We might come out of this much stronger than we ever were. All I was hearing was we might lose everything and it was. Really putting deep fear and anxiety into me in a deep way, like super deep way. [00:06:14] I was stuck in my head and it was just giving me this low level of anxiety underneath the surface that I could feel was building and welling up. And so when I start to get that way, I know the best thing I can do is to get out of my head and get into my body. . Now. I didn't appreciate this in the past. [00:06:33] I didn't really understand the value of being active and really feeling how my body feels until, I don't know, six to nine months ago. Last summer I did a lot of physical activity and it brought so much stillness into my life and so much peace into my life. And I found that it was one of the best ways to raise my spirits. [00:06:54] I mean, it's chemical. You get all the endorphins. It just makes you feel phenomenal when you're done. [00:06:59]So when I'm particularly anxious or stressed out or just feeling like junk, getting out for a walk or a run or a ski or whatever it is, getting out and moving my body and really being in my body is one of the best things I've found to do. It helps me get out of my head. It helps me find peace and it helps me really calm all of the craziness that's going on. [00:07:25]So it was really actually kind of fun because I got out on the trail and I felt like junk and I was so down on myself because, , I have a 50K race in the books for may. If that's going to happen, I doubt it'll happen. And I knew that I was going to have to do a lot of training to really build up to being able to do a 50 K trail race in may. And there weren't a lot of weeks between my big ski and the trail race. We're right in the middle of all of it right now. [00:07:49] And so I went out on the trail and there's still tons of snow and I just, I felt awful and I just got really down on myself for a minute. And then I actually remembered. Episode five from the season two where I talked about how , you can't judge things by the first mile. [00:08:04] the start is always the hardest. And I was thinking about how even in this. Pandemic, how we've come into it doesn't determine how we're going to come out of it. It was like I was listening to my own lessons and hearing it again for myself in a new light, and I realized that I needed that message that just because I came into this scared and just because they came into this with a business that is failing didn't mean that I was going to fail or that this wasn't going to take off some other way and that. [00:08:34] It wasn't an indicator of how I'm going to go through it. So as I was out there, I came across this big opening in the snow . where there's a little bit of water going through and a bunch of rocks, and I was able to go down into it. It's about 18 inches down, and I just listened to the water running and dripping [00:08:51] and I sat there and listened to it for probably a good 15 minutes. Just feeling the peace, feeling that calmness, feeling that stillness. And settling myself, and that felt. Amazing. And then I kept going and I was listening to this book from Glennon Doyle called untamed, which by the way, is freaking amazing. [00:09:18] I cannot recommend it enough. It'll really help you figure out who you are, what you really want in life, and really help undo a lot of the constructs that you probably don't even realize you have that we get when we're young and from our culture. That's fantastic. But one of the things that she does is she talks about writing a new story, like what is it you really want? [00:09:41] And I've always known how powerful writing and journaling is, and I, I was still disturbed by this. The story going through my head. things not working out. And so I realized I wanted to take this journal prompt that she gave us for our life and use it in the context of our business. , [00:10:01] so when I came back home from my snowshoe, I felt 100% better, by the way, and I didn't feel nearly as bad after that first mile. Just to put things in perspective. But I went in and I talked to my husband and I just said, Hey, can I spend the night out in our cabin? So we have a guest house, it's, we call it our cabin. [00:10:18] And normally we have guests who stay here for free, but right now with all the virus stuff, it's wide open. And so I said, I just need some time to think and to journal because I've been so frenetically moving and doing and taking action. That I haven't really sat down and thought about what I would do if this doesn't work in a really practical way. [00:10:40] I mean, I'd talk to the bank. We've looked at the finances, and I faced where we are right now and what is going on, which is a huge win for me in the past. I just want to avoid that, but I knew that if I was going to move forward with any ability to think, I had to know. Because if I didn't know, it would just paralyze me with fear and I'd think it's worse than it is. [00:10:59] I don't really think it could get much worse than it is, but , it would just paralyze me. So I faced that, which was great, but I was keeping myself so busy in the hopes of what I had done before continuing to work. If I just put enough effort into it, and it's not that I needed some time to regroup and to rewrite that story in my head about us potentially failing. [00:11:21]And so I came to the cabin and it's, it's right on our land. I walk, I don't know, 50 feet from the house to get to it, and I sat down with my journal. And I took the time to rewrite my story and I did this. I literally wrote it out because there's studies that show that when you write something down, you begin to believe it. [00:11:45] I believe it was in influence by Robert Cialdini where they talk about the power of writing things down and the consistency principle, but I'm pulling that out from the top of my head. So fact check it before you quote me on that. I'm not going to fact check it right now because I'm in get her done mode. [00:12:03] But just I think that's where it's at and I really started to say, okay, what is it about this story of failing that actually serves me? Like why does my mind keep going to that idea? What there's gotta be something there that might have some benefit. there's some obvious things like, , the financial burden to keep our family afloat will be much less because we wouldn't have nearly as many monthly expenses. [00:12:29] Now the reason we're here is for this cabin. It's to provide a place for family, friends, people in ministry to come and rest and find rest. [00:12:38] And I love that we do that, but having this place is really expensive. It's not a cheap place. And so there's a part of me that feels like it's a really heavy burden to bear, even though I feel so strongly that we're meant to be here and be doing this, and I love that we do that, but that's a benefit. [00:12:55] Like if we fail and lose everything, then whatever we do next would be so much easier to sustain because it wouldn't be nearly as expensive. So when you have those fears and those stories, it's really helpful to ask yourself. What are some of the ways that these fears actually serve us? Why is that kind of appealing for our mind? [00:13:15] And I just wrote down as many benefits as I could think of of us failing, which sounds really weird, but it was really super helpful. Then I also wrote down all of the lies that were flying through my head about why this might be happening, about, , myself and my abilities and all of the stuff. I just got it out and some of it was like. [00:13:35] Embarrassing to even write out into a journal that nobody else will ever read. Just because I couldn't believe I was having those thoughts, but getting them out of my head was so helpful. the question that really helped the most was this question from Glennon Doyle's book untamed, which was what's the most beautiful and true story I can imagine about my business during this time? [00:14:00] Now that's modified a little bit from her actual question in the book, and I'll let you go read the book on your own to get the full version of that question, because it is a beautiful book and you should read it. , but I sat and journaled about it and I thought about the experience that I wanted to have and I thought about me in a year from now and a year from now. When I look back on this time. What will I wish I have done? Like how do I want to have approached it? Because in the moment it's really easy to get totally paralyzed by fear, but taking that time to say, who do I want to be during this? [00:14:38] Who will I have wanted myself to have been during it when I'm removed from it? And I know that's kind of a weird way to look at it. But it was so helpful to think about my identity and what the most beautiful and true story could be for my business through this. And what I discovered and the story that I rewrote in my head was amazing. [00:15:03] And I'm absolutely going to share that with you in the next episode because it means I'm going to be making a massive pivot in my business. But before I get to that. [00:15:14] here's what I want you to do right now. If you're feeling that fear and anxiety, if you're stressed about your own personal situation, and especially if you are hearing a story in your mind or you've started believing a story in your mind that isn't what you really want to see happen, that's more fear-based than it is based in hope, then I encourage you to take some time to move your body. [00:15:43] Drink some water, find stillness, and I know that can be really hard for me.…

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    My 3-Part Marketing Framework for a Thriving Online Business Mar 24, 2020
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    When I started this podcast, it was because I saw the need to have a personal brand to really have a successful online business. As more and more people flooded. The online space, which we're going to see in a massive way over the next few months, is all of these people at home have time to finally build that business they've been dreaming of. [00:00:20] It's going to be more important than ever. To have a personal brand to set yourself apart from everyone else who isn't doing that. So I definitely think that that's important. But since starting this podcast, I've realized that you don't just need a personal brand. In fact, there are two other critical elements that you absolutely have to have in order to have a thriving business, and I am going to share them with you today in this podcast. [00:00:52] [00:01:07] the reason having a personal brand is so vital to growing a business is because we all connect with other people more deeply than we will ever connect with some random brand. And I use the example of Apple all the time because I am totally an Apple fan girl. I've got the iPhone and iPad, I've got the a MacBook pro. [00:01:28] I love Apple products. I will stick with them because I just, I, I do. I adore them. Been great for me. Making the switch was scary years ago and I have never regretted it despite the fact that they're crazy expensive. So. I love Apple, but I will never ever connect with Apple in the same way that I would connect with you if I got to know you as a person. [00:01:53] And as more and more people come into your market space, your market space, there's a good term, your marketplace or your niche, whatever you want to call it, you get the idea as they come into your industry. And began selling products to the same people that you're trying to sell products to. The easiest way for you to stand apart is to have a personal brand and to really let people get to know who you are as a person and a lot of season one talked about how to do that, how to build those connections, how do you story to do that? [00:02:30] And I absolutely think that's still important. And I have. Even more ideas on that that I will share throughout this season, but it's not the only thing you need. I used to think that that was the big differentiator, but since then, over the last few months, I've realized that there's two other key things that you need to have, including your personal brand is one of them, like along with your personal brand. [00:02:56] That are going to help you have a thriving online business and without these things, it's really going to be hard to grow the business that you really want to have. Like there really isn't a lot of set it and forget it. Passive income stuff anymore. Like, yes, I know some people make a bunch of money with display ads and whatever else. [00:03:16] But it all still takes work. It's not really passive. And so the businesses that I see thriving and what I see working in my own business, at least up until the craziness that's happened and what I, although I do believe that this is going to help me make it through, is that not only do I have the personal brand in my industry, but the second thing I have. [00:03:38] Is a system or a method that is specific to how I teach people, and that is different from what other people are teaching in my industry. So no matter what you wanted to, you know, for me, I teach photographers how to do photo shoots using story because I'm teaching personal brand photography. That's kind of my niche. [00:03:59] And within personal brand photography, we need to be able to capture stories. Your stories. In an image so that people who are your ideal clients see the image stop in their tracks and want to read the description and get to know you more. They see something in that image that they can connect with and say, Oh, that's me. [00:04:20] Like maybe they see a kid crawling all over you as you're working in front of the computer trying to grow your online business, whatever it is. You make that connection in an image and that image tells a story and captures their attention and then you can, it's basically what stops them in their tracks and gets them to pay attention to you. [00:04:41] And attention is everything in marketing. If we can't capture people's attention, our marketing falls flat. And so I teach people how to do that using story. So I have a system, a method called the story session system, and a lot of what I teach in there goes against. What typical photographers have done in the past. [00:04:59] It goes against what a lot of people in my industry had been teaching as best practices. and it, well, the old best practices, they're all outdated anyways. Like if you wanna Mark your images before giving them to a client to use online that you can't, nobody wants to use an image to promote their business with somebody else's watermark on it. [00:05:17] Like your job is to, our job as photographers is to help you grow your business. Not. To use your platform to market ours. Right? So the logo thing, that's, that's one thing, but there's like different crediting issues and like, editing, letting people edit their photos. And there's, there's like five big things that I teach that they can't do anymore that sets me apart. [00:05:38] And then I have this whole step by step system. It's more of a system than a course that helps them implement these things into their business so that they can work with you to help figure out what stories. Actually, we'll connect with your people, which stories we'll build that know, like and trust factor so that people do want to go deeper. [00:05:55] What will stop people in their tracks who are a perfect fit for you so that you can grab their attention and serve them in some way so they want to keep coming back to you. This is what I teach people in my story sessions system, and it is a system. It's literally a step-by-step checklist that people have used in my industry to get results. [00:06:16] So I've got my personal brand number one, and I've got a system that is unique to me and has a name. So, you should have a personal brand. Obviously if you don't have a system and you just giving regular information, you're going to have a really hard time standing out cause there's a lot of free information out there that's not organized into a nice step by step system. [00:06:36] There's something about having a system or a framework or a method or some sort of. Organized structured piece that's named, that's not your name. So like mine's the story session system. So I'm Jamie, I'm Swanson who teaches the story session system, who teaches the story session system. And then the third part of this, so personal brand method or system. [00:07:00] The third part. Is the movement. It's the lifestyle, the thing that they want to have, the thing they inspire to be. Okay. So for me, it's a successful personal brand photographer. Personal brand photography is my movement. The story session system is how I help my people become personal brand photographers and my personal. [00:07:21] Brand is how I connect with people. Now, the beauty of all these things is that they all play together in your entire strategy. So when you're thinking about what you should share on social media, one, I think you should be sharing stories pretty much all the time because I think it's one of the best ways to grow your personal brand, but it should either be helping grow your personal brand or. [00:07:44] Bring awareness to your system and build desire for your system or be building the culture of your movement and helping people know what it means to be. A successful personal brand photographer or whatever it is. So that's the culture piece. That movement is building the culture. So for me, I want a culture of action takers, like I want people to take action because I know successful people take action. [00:08:09] I talked about this a couple podcasts ago. Taking action is key to getting results and being a successful personal brand photographer. I also want a culture of positivity and people who. Don't play the victim card. You know what I'm talking about? You know, you always see those people who are like, Oh, well, that'll never work in my industry, or, Oh, nobody wants that right now. [00:08:33] And they have all of these limiting beliefs and excuses that are there so that they can sit in their fear instead of taking action. Because if they really believe it's not going to work and they never take action and they never try, well then they can't fail, right? So they can just say, Oh, well, but I'm mad, but I don't. [00:08:50] People who can't get over those excuses. People who just live in that fear and that limiting belief and don't try, don't even try something like, they know why it's not going to work for them. We all know those people don't, they just drive you crazy. You try and give them advice and they're like, yeah, but yeah, but yeah, but you know, and so it's those. [00:09:11] Yeah, but people. That's a really funny thing to say. I hope you're laughing at me, but it says, yeah, but people that I don't want to have in my movement because my people are action takers and my people have confidence and hope and positivity and are like, huh. Instead of, yeah, but they're like, how can I do it? [00:09:30] Despite. This like, okay, that's there. Maybe I live in a rural area and it's three hours to the nearest Metro area. How can I grow a profitable personal brand photography business despite the fact that I live three hours away from a Metro area or whatever it is. And so, there's a lot of culture pieces in there. [00:09:50] And we'll talk more about culture and building a movement. I talked about it some last season, but when you start to see these three things and how they play together as a framework, it starts to make your business come alive. Like you can build strategies around this framework. So, you know. Your naming becomes more clear because you've got a personal brand name, you've got a system or a method name, and then you've got a movement name or something that they inspire to be. [00:10:16] And so you've got multiple pieces to your brand and your naming that people can use. You can build hashtags for your culture. that's, you know, where that would fit. You can do swag and merchandise and things for people to like. Where and adopt as part of, you know, the movement piece. People can feel connected to a movement and being part of a movement, you know, without having to know you personally like they can, they can rise up and help grow that movement when you've defined the culture really well. [00:10:46] I know this isn't super clear right now that I'm kind of, I feel like, as I'm describing this, I have a lot of messaging to clarify yet. This is kind of a new thing for me. It was, like I said, just came out like yesterday, maybe the day before as I was talking to my buddy Levi about this. but I really feel like these three pieces are absolutely key. [00:11:05] To growing a successful business. And that when you put them, like when you think about your business in these three facets, that everything is going to start to come together because the culture should know about the system and should build the desire for the system. So like for me, I want the one K weekend challenge to be a massive part of my movement. [00:11:25] In fact, I want any single person coming into my group to have heard about it from somebody else in the group. Or have heard about it before they even join the group and do it. Like I want every single person in my group to have done the one K we can challenge or to tell somebody to do it. Like I don't want anyone coming in who doesn't know about it because it's that ingrained into the culture. [00:11:46] So as I'm thinking about the content I want to create for my group and my movement, I'm thinking about how I can promote the one K we can challenge them. To get people to do it and to want to do that and to feature the people who are doing it, to give them status, to raise them up in the movement and give them a place there and inspire them to be leaders within the movement. [00:12:08] Right. I also am thinking about how I can use that challenge in that, you know, to get people into my story sessions system and to build desire for that because it leads into it very clearly. There's a . ClearPath that I explained back in season one. but yeah, the movement will help. Grow the system and the income, and I get to, as the personal brand be kind of the figurehead that people connect with, that helps build that culture, that helps support that system and promote that system. [00:12:40] And though we all kind of promote each other, you know, like I can, I can promote my system. And when people hear about the system, they learn about who I am, they learn about what the culture is. It's kind of this three way like. Beautiful synergistic system. Gosh, I need better words for this. You guys are getting the raw raw messaging right here. [00:13:02] It needs work. Isn't that funny? I'm sitting here podcasting, just flying off the top of my. Cuff. Dang it. I mix up my metaphors too, off the cuff. That's the metaphor you get in the off the cuff first version of this, but it has helped me clarify how I'm going to be moving forward with my business. It's helped me see, Oh. [00:13:23] Okay. These are how all the moving pieces work and everything else will fit within this framework. And I need all three pieces. If I don't have a system or a method, and I just teach random tactics, well they might as well go to YouTube and learn it there. It's get some free blog posts or something because it doesn't differentiate my system from what everyone else is teaching. [00:13:46] So why wouldn't they just go to someone else? Right. And yeah, they need to know who I am because they connect with me more than they're going to connect with my random system name. And then this personal brand photography movement, it taps into their desires. It's, it's an identity piece. It's who they want to be. [00:14:04] And Oh man, I've got thoughts about identity that will come out. But as you're growing and as you're moving forward and as you are trying to grow your online business and grow your personal brand, think about, okay. What is the system or the method or something that's specific to you that you're teaching some sort of framework. [00:14:24] Stu McLaren calls it a success path. You know, what is that that you can teach that's different that you can give a name to? Because for whatever reason, when we give a name to something, it seems more important or special, right? What can you do that's specific to you that has a system name or method or whatever. [00:14:43] And then how does that help grow your movement? How does that help your people adopt the identity that they really want to have and become the kind of person they want to be? How do they become your ideal avatar, you know, and then how can you be the leader and guide them through this process and into this movement? [00:15:04] And inspire them to take action and become the kind of person that you know they can be. How can you help encourage them and inspire them to take the actions that are going to set them up for the success they want to have? And that's exciting to me. So that's the raw firs…

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