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    A Tale of Two Hygienists Podcast

    We created A Tale of Two Hygienists in 2015 because we are passionate about helping our fellow clinicians be the best version of themselves, both professionally and personally. We Interview experts in their fields to provide better care for our patients while promoting the joys of being a dental hygienist.

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    265 Student Focused Presents: Yes The Throw Up Bonus Is A Real Thing - A Look At Pediatric Dentistry Feb 03, 2021
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    It's A Tale of Two Hygienists' student roundtable episode, which means Andrew and Michelle have invited a roster of guests to educate student listeners on a chosen topic. This month's roundtable shines a spotlight on pediatric dentistry and how we should modify our techniques and behavior to best suit our younger patients.

    Anaika Forbes is the co-host of the Dental-ish Podcast and currently works as the department chair of a dental assisting program and part-time as an adjunct professor; she's spent the last decade of her hygiene career working in pediatrics, private offices and in public health. Returning from last week's episode are Kelly Quolas and Natalie Hayward, two hygienists with extensive experience in pediatrics. And last but not least, Brooke Crouch is the dental outreach program manager for New Horizons Healthcare, a not-for-profit community and family health center based in Roanoke, VA.

    In this episode, our guests discuss their encounters with celebrity parents, how vomit differs from one age group to another, and consider ways hygiene schools can improve their pediatric education programs.

    EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS:

    Interview starts: 7:33

    - The guests discuss the pediatric opportunities out there for dental hygienists.

    - What subject or techniques should have a greater focus in hygiene school?

    - When have they felt most out of their depth?—including the kid who broke Anaika's heart.

    - Overcoming parental objections to your treatment and advice.

    - Sharing the great—and not so great, maybe even gross—parts of working with kids.

    - Their best advice for students going into pediatrics or considering that path.

    QUOTES:

    "I feel that collaborative care with a pediatric hygienist and a pediatric dentist works way better than other specialties."

    "Behavior management is its own specialty when it comes to dealing with the pediatric population."

    "You take a step back and say 'How can I handle this situation if it happens again a little bit better?'."

    "Every day in the pediatric world is a new day."

    "Show them that you're coming from a place of care [and] give them all the information they would need to make the proper decision for their child."

    "Educate them as best as we can, but also do our best to not scare them off either."

    LINKS:

    Anaika's email - anaikardh@gmail.com

    Dental-ish Podcast on Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/podcast.dentalish/

    Kelley's email - kelley@mymyomyhealth.comMy Myo My Health - https://mymyomyhealth.com/Brooke's email - brookecrouchdentalconsulting@gmail.com

    A Tale of Two Hygienists homepage - https://ataleoftwohygienists.com/

    AToTH on Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/aTaleOfTwoHygienists/

    AToTH on Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/ataleoftwohygienists

    AToTH on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/company/atoth/?originalSubdomain=ca


    Fast Facts: Perio Edition "Periodontal Ligament Fibers" Feb 01, 2021
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    On this week's episode of Fast Facts - Perio Edition your host, Katrina Sanders, RDH talks to us about periodontal ligament fibers.

    Quotes:

    "That's why if you're a clencher and a grinder you wake up in the morning and you go, oh, my teeth are hurting, it's probably the periodontal ligament that's causing pain."

    "We can observe this radial graphically, although we cannot see the periodontal ligament itself on a radiograph we can see that PDL space and when we see widening of that periodontal ligament space, we know that that tooth may be experiencing a higher absorption of shock of the occlusion."

    Resources:

    DentistRX: https://www.dentistrx.com

    More Fast Facts: https://www.ataleoftwohygienists.com/fast-facts/

    Katrina Sanders Website: https://www.katrinasanders.com

    Katrina Sanders Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thedentalwinegenist/


    TIPisode Michelle Finds An N95 That Fits And Andrew Tackles Supply Chain! Jan 29, 2021
    Show notes

    This week Andrew and Michelle bring you a TIPisode highlighting Halyard dental products, specifically their masks and supply chain management! Learn about how the N95 from Halyard is different than others you may have tried, and how Halyard has come through for dental offices within the United States throughout the pandemic. Episode Highlights

    • N95 Fit Tests
    • Michelle FINALLY finds an N95 that fits! (Halyard Fluidshield Surgical N95)
    • FDA Cleared - Follow your IFU's
    • Storage Friendly
    • Supply and Demand
    • The Halyard Supply Chain
    • Buy American Made
    Quotes "In 2020 we all got real comfortable with N95's." "I failed all of my N95 fit tests." "This isn't some flippant stuff on the back of the box, this is from the FDA." "I've heard so many terrible stories about shipping nightmares." "Halyard has shown their ability to shine, when we have needed them the most." "From fabrication to shipping, everything is right here in the United States." Links Halyardhealth.com products.halyardhealth.com Halyard Fluidshield Surgical N95 Your crash course in supply chains, globalization and COVID -19 episode of Business Casual Podcast

    264 Managing Pediatric Patients And Their Parents With Kelley Quolas And Natalie Hayward Jan 27, 2021
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    THIS EPISODE COUNTS FOR CE! - but read the disclaimers it might not count for your state.

    Go here to take the test and get your free CE Credit!

    When you work in a profession where even fully grown adults are apprehensive about attending their own appointments, it can be a daunting task helping young patients feel at ease. Andrew reached out to a couple members of the A Tale of Two Hygienists Facebook group who work in the pediatric side of dentistry to share how they work with the kids at their practices.

    Kelley Quolas is a myofunctional therapist and registered dental hygienist based in Phoenix, AZ who got started in dentistry when she was 16 and found herself drawn to working with kids. At dental assistant school she met her friend Natalie Hayward, who found working in a pediatric practice intimidating at first but now "couldn't dream of going anywhere else."

    In this episode, Kelley and Natalie discuss how to reassure young patients, reveal which shows are big with the kids these days, and explain how to speak to parents who may not be the most cooperative.

    EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS:

    Interview starts: 4:13

    - What are some telltale signs of nervousness among child patients?

    - How dental appointments differ by age group.

    - Kelley and Natalie define anticipatory guidance.

    - What are the most popular TV shows for kids at the dentist's office these days?

    - Kelley and Natalie discuss their steps for cleaning the teeth of their younger patients.

    - The art of bribing kids with popsicles so they'll stay still enough for you to take their X-ray.

    - Their advice to any students listening for dealing with stubborn and unruly parents.

    QUOTES:

    "They're a kid. They're not scary, they're just a child that needs a little help."

    "Having a television above when they lay down is a great distraction for kids."

    "Things change in kids' mouths so frequently that you really have to have your Spidey-sense on."

    "You have to get to know the parent as well as the patient."

    "We're here because we want to help."

    LINKS:

    My Myo My Health - https://mymyomyhealth.com/

    Kelley's email - kelley@mymyomyhealth.com

    EPISODE-SPECIFIC RESOURCES:

    https://www.aapd.org/media/Policies_Guidelines/P_SleepApnea.pdf

    https://www.slideshare.net/JaceySheckler/pediatric-dental-assessments

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3470809/

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5830181/

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJpe9CuuHT0

    A Tale of Two Hygienists homepage - https://ataleoftwohygienists.com/

    AToTH on Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/aTaleOfTwoHygienists/

    AToTH on Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/ataleoftwohygienists

    AToTH on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/company/atoth/?originalSubdomain=ca


    Fast Facts: Perio Edition "Connective Tissue or Lamina Propria" Jan 25, 2021
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    On this week's episode of Fast Facts - Perio Edition your host, Katrina Sanders, RDH talks to us about connective tissue, also known as Lamina propria.

    Quotes:

    "Now the main component of our connective tissue, as with all connective tissue, is going to be our collagen fibers and there are many different types of collagen fibers that are available in the oral cavity."

    "Remember, collagen is a protein comprised of amino acids and the most common types of collagen that we see in the oral cavity are your type one, which comprises about 95 percent of the collagen we see in the oral cavity and type three, which comprises about five percent of our gingival connective tissues."

    Resources:

    DentistRX: https://www.dentistrx.com

    More Fast Facts: https://www.ataleoftwohygienists.com/fast-facts/

    Katrina Sanders Website: https://www.katrinasanders.com

    Katrina Sanders Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thedentalwinegenist/


    TIPisode Get Ahead Of Decay With D-1355 Jan 22, 2021
    Show notes Please Rate this Podcast! This week on A Tale of Two Hygienists TIPisode we are joined by Steve Pardue, from Elevate Oral Care to talk about a new insurance code for preventative care! Episode Highlights
    • Treatment After Decay
    • Preventative Insurance Coverage
    • New Code D-1355
    • Precautions
    Quotes "In the 2021 current Dental Terminology book there are 89 pages of codes, while only 3 of them include preventative codes." "The new D-1355 caries preventive medicament application – per tooth is a great step in preventing decay from beginning in patients mouths." "The new D-1355 is intended to prevent disease before it begins." "Over a 6 month period, Silver Diamine Fluoride is as effective at preventing decay as properly placed sealants." "SDF will not stain healthy dentin or enamel however even the smallest decayed or de-mineralized areas will stain." "Using these preventative products, and the codes to use them is the first step in lowering the caries rate for our patients." "As Hygienists you are on the front lines of prevention in dental offices, and we thank you for it." Links Info@elevateoralcare.com ADA Code Guide: https://www.ada.org/~/media/ADA/Publications/Files/D1355_ADAGuidetoReportingCariesPreventiveMedicamentApplication_v1a_2020Oct.pdf?la=en Elevate Oral Care Website: http://www.elevateoralcare.com Elevate Oral Care Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/elevateoralcare Elevate Oral Care Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/elevate_oral_care/ More TIPisodes: https://www.ataleoftwohygienists.com/tipisodes/ AToTH Website: https://www.ataleoftwohygienists.com

    263 How To Create Real Systemic Change With Matt Crespin, MPH, RDH Jan 20, 2021
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    THIS EPISODE COUNTS FOR CE! - read the disclaimer as it might not count for your state.

    Go here to take the test and get your free CE Credit!

    Few hygienists want to bring politics into the office, but the truth is that if you want to make lasting changes to the profession, then you need to work with the legislators who pass state and federal laws. The guest for this week's A Tale of Two Hygienists has firsthand working with the legislative movers and shakers.

    Matt Crespin is the associate director for the Children's Health Alliance of Wisconsin, former president of American Dental Hygienists Association, and a hygienist himself, but you might be more familiar with him in his role as host of the Your Official ADHA Podcast, which you can find on our very own Dental Podcast Network!

    In this episode, Matt discusses the importance of coalition-building, explains how he maintains his positivity and lays out how to create a state-level position for ensuring compliance from clinics and programs across the board.

    EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS:

    Interview starts: 10:32

    - What Matt finds so rewarding about hosting the ADHA podcast.

    - Matt's "chance to breathe" after finishing his tenure as ADHA president and what he enjoys doing now that he no longer has as many responsibilities.

    - How legislation impacts whether or not hygienists can educate in schools.

    - Looking at how clinics and programs are vetted, step by step.

    - The key advantage of working together in a state health coalition.

    - Who hygienists should contact and work with if they want lasting legislative changes.

    - The events and meetups that listeners looking to engage with their legislators should look out for.

    QUOTES:

    "If you can't bill for the services you provide, then there's no way to sustain the program."

    "I find it more effective to work at the legislative level than at the rules level."

    "In our state, it's actually more restrictive as a hygienist to work in a dental office than it is pretty much everywhere else."

    "You as an independent constituent are likely not going to have an impact on policy change. It's gonna take the masses."

    "The more people you can have at the table with more voices from different perspectives, you just get a whole lot more done."

    "If there's something you're really passionate about, then it's worth fighting for."

    LINKS:

    Matt's email - mcrespin@chw.org

    Your Official ADHA Podcast - https://www.ataleoftwohygienists.com/yourofficialadhapodcast/

    Children's Health Alliance of Wisconsin - https://childrenswi.org/

    A Tale of Two Hygienists homepage - https://ataleoftwohygienists.com/

    AToTH on Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/aTaleOfTwoHygienists/

    AToTH on Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/ataleoftwohygienists

    AToTH on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/company/atoth/?originalSubdomain=ca


    Fast Facts: Perio Edition "Cells of the Oral Mucosa" Jan 18, 2021
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    On this week's episode of Fast Facts - Perio Edition your host, Katrina Sanders, RDH talks to us about cells of the Oral Mucosa!

    Quotes:

    "This renewal or basal layer that continues to renew, we believe, turns over approximately every 10 days, whereas skin, for example, has a turnover rate of 28 days."

    "It's important to note that there are several different types of cells located within the oral epithelium, all of which are there and built to protect the underlying structures."

    Resources:

    DentistRX: https://www.dentistrx.com

    More Fast Facts: https://www.ataleoftwohygienists.com/fast-facts/

    Katrina Sanders Website: https://www.katrinasanders.com

    Katrina Sanders Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thedentalwinegenist/


    Paint A Picture For Your Patients With GC America's Tri Plaque ID Gel Jan 15, 2021
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    This week on A Tale of Two Hygienists TIPisode we are joined by Michelle Strange to talk to us about her favorite disclosing gel, GC Tri Plaque ID Gel from GC America. Michelle highlights some stand out patient experiences, that made using GC America's Tri Plaque ID Gel part of her routine on EVERY SINGLE PATIENT! Episode Highlights

    • 3 Tone Plaque Disclosing
    • Clinical Application Strategy
    • Patient Communication Techniques
    Quotes "It's always the patient stories that keep us loyal to these products." "It's not a liquid so it doesn't spill." "I use that toothbrush, and spread it around their mouth." "Their eyes pop out of their head, they cannot believe they are seeing all this in their mouth." "I disclose every single patient, without question." "He said to me ' I hope I don't see any of that purple because I have been working really hard'." "Use it at the top of the appointment and get ahead of it, show them what is there." "Disclosing solution needs to come back, it needs to be a standard of care." Links http://www.gcamerica.com/products/preventive/GC_Tri_Plaque_ID/ http://www.gcamerica.com/ce/alleducation.php http://www.gcamerica.com

    262 Finding The Right Office In 2021 with Doug Perry Jan 13, 2021
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    THIS EPISODE COUNTS FOR CE! - but read the disclaimer below as it might not count for your state.

    Go here to take the test and get your CE Credit!

    Whether you're freshly graduated, looking for a different gig, or just want a few pointers, you're bound to learn some helpful job-searching tips from the guest Andrew spoke to on this week's A Tale of Two Hygienists.

    Doug Perry is an author, speaker, and coach who works with both new and seasoned dental hygienists to optimize their résumés, expand their professional networks, and find new jobs through his website GetHiredRHD.com. You may also know him as the host of Get Hired, one of our other shows on the Dental Podcast Network.

    In this episode, Doug reveals his process of helping clients fine-tune their resumes, vouches for cover letters, and discusses the increasingly popular jobs in hygiene that can be found outside the operatory.

    EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS:

    Interview starts: 8:54

    - Doug talks about his "real job" outside of the podcasting realm and how public relations evolve during the previous decades.

    - How Doug helps people hone in on the strongest parts of their resumes.

    - What a good cover letter can draw out of your resume.

    - How you can establish yourself as a credible candidate during a job interview.

    - Doug dishes out his interview prep tips.

    - The increased focus on non-clinical jobs in the hygiene space.

    - Doug's advice to students and those looking for a new career as we head into the future.

    QUOTES:

    "Let's have a resume for each one of those interests. Instead of trying to make one square peg fit into this round hole, let's create a bunch of square pegs that fit into different square holes."

    "You're not going to be successful being everything to everybody."

    "The cover letter takes it to another level—a more personal level."

    "You kind of have to read the person who's interviewing you."

    "I love it when people are able to feel like they can still make a contribution in spite of the fact that we have all these difficult restrictions and things in place."

    "

    LINKS:

    RDH Resumes and Career Guidance - https://gethiredrdh.com/

    Doug's email - gethiredrdh@gmail.com

    Doug's phone - (801)683-9664

    A Tale of Two Hygienists homepage - https://ataleoftwohygienists.com/

    AToTH on Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/aTaleOfTwoHygienists/

    AToTH on Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/ataleoftwohygienists

    AToTH on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/company/atoth/?originalSubdomain=ca


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