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    A Tale of Two Hygienists Podcast

    We created A Tale of Two Hygienists in 2015 because we are passionate about helping our fellow clinicians be the best version of themselves, both professionally and personally. We Interview experts in their fields to provide better care for our patients while promoting the joys of being a dental hygienist.

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    Fast Facts: Perio Edition "Vascular Acquisition of Covid-19?" Jun 14, 2021
    Show notes

    On this week's episode of Fast Facts - Perio Edition your host, Katrina Sanders, RDH talks to us about a study titled The Covid-19 Pathway which proposes the fact that there could be an alternative route of SARS-CoV-2 infection.

    Quotes:

    "We know that any breach to immune defenses of the mouth can permit various types of bacteria and viruses to enter our blood vessels, particularly if we notate that the cellular epithelium is ulcerated."

    "What that truly means for us is that we have all of these massive open portals or open doorways on the endothelial surface of our lung vessels that allow for the virus to latch on."

    Resources:

    DentistRX: https://www.dentistrx.com

    More Fast Facts: https://www.ataleoftwohygienists.com/fast-facts/

    Katrina Sanders Website: https://www.katrinasanders.com

    Katrina Sanders Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thedentalwinegenist/

    Sources:

    Lloyd-Jones, G., Molayem, S., Pontes, C. C., & Chapple, I. (2021). The COVID-19 Pathway: A Proposed Oral-Vascular-Pulmonary Route of SARS-CoV-2 Infection and the Importance of Oral Healthcare Measures. J Oral Med and Dent Res, 2(1), 1-25.


    TIPisode 3 Ways to Save Money on Water Testing Jun 11, 2021
    Show notes

    This week on A Tale of Two Hygienists TIPisode we are joined by Andrew Nobilini and Mike Rust from ProEdge Dental Water Labs! Andrew and Mike talk to us about not one, not two but THREE ways to save money on dental unit waterline testing! Be sure to listen to the end to get your free gift from ProEdge and jumpstart your dental unit waterline testing! Episode Highlights

    • Why You Need To Test Your Water
    • The Cost
    • Pooled/Combined Samples
    • QuickPass - In Office Testing
    • Mixing and Matching (In Office and Mail In)
    • Get Your FREE QuickPass
    Quotes "It protects your patients which you care about and your practice and reputation." "There is a huge increase of auditors going into offices and asking for their waterline testing documentation." "Pooling samples is a great way to save 50-75% right off the top." "After you hear this tip there is NO REASON why you shouldn't be testing your water!" "We would love to send you a free QuickPass and get you started." "You can't beat free." Links: Free QuickPass: https://proedgedental.com/free-qp Free Safe Water Webinar: https://proedgedental.com/safe-water-webinar Website: https://proedgedental.com/ Resources: http://proedgedental.com/youtube

    283 Aerosols: SARS-CoV-2 vs. Dirty Dental Unit Waterlines with Spring Hatfield. RDH Jun 09, 2021
    Show notes

    Please Leave a Review!

    THIS EPISODE COUNTS FOR CE! - but read the disclaimers it might not count for your state.

    Go here to take the test and get your free CE Credit!

    Spring Hatfield, RDH, joins Michelle and Andrew on the podcast once again this week. As many of you will remember, Spring is a dental hygienist and co-founder of Masterminds, LLC, who is also a contributing author to RDH Magazine. She has returned today to engage in an examination of the recently published 'Sources of SARS-CoV-2 and Other Microorganisms in Dental Aerosols' study with our hosts.

    In today's episode, they review the use of etch in removing stains, Spring's diplomatic approach in her posts, and, of course, the results, conclusions, and takeaways from the study, along with some questions for its authors. They also explore the importance of testing water lines, the definition of HVE and its usage, some studies regarding mouth rinses, some podcast suggestions, Karen Daw's guidelines, and the continued use of face shields.

    EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS:

    Interview starts: 13:06

    • Etch use in removing stains
    • Spring's perspective on getting tagged in posts and remaining

    diplomatic

    • 'Sources of SARS-CoV-2 and Other Microorganisms in Dental

    Aerosols' study and a summary of its results

    • The critical importance of testing water lines
    • Two current dental lawsuits
    • The study's conclusions
    • HVE definition and use
    • Questions for the study authors
    • Studies regarding different mouth rinses
    • Some podcast suggestions
    • Michelle's takeaways from the study
    • Karen Daw's guidelines
    • Face shield usage

    QUOTES:

    "Spring's out there doing the Lord's work."

    "I make sure that I separate my science from my emotions…it's a learned skill to be able to not let your emotions get involved."

    "We did the right thing by shutting down and waiting for the research and knowing now what we know."

    "I think they are making the assumption, and probably being hopeful, that everybody followed the ethical recommendations from the ABA to shut down. And we are very aware that that was not the case."

    "This is a robust, good sound methods. Whatever goes after those methods, he says, is probably accurate and good evidence."

    "The point that I'm making with that information is how important it is that we're sterilizing our handpieces."

    "What an argument for testing your water lines!"

    "It disproved anybody's idea that COVID could be spread through dental aerosols."

    "It's really interesting that we were looking for one beast and found a completely different beast in our dental office, and that is testing and shocking and treating our water lines."

    "I don't think it's something that people do a lot of and I don't think it's talked about nearly as much as it should be."

    "They tested on the operator, the assistant, the patient and the environment…it's real world stuff."

    "Understanding the sources of microbial bio load in aerosols is the immediate urgency not only for infection control and dental operatories during Covid 19 pandemic, but also to inform best practices in aerosol reduction, mitigation, and abatement in the long term."

    "One surprising finding was the discovery of microorganisms in the implant irrigant, which was sterile saline."

    "In summary, we find sufficient evidence to reject our null hypothesis that saliva is a potential source of disease transmission during AGDPs. Instead, we identify for the first time that the irrigant used in dental equipment is the primary and major source of microorganisms during AGDPs."

    "We also demonstrate that high volume inter-oral evaluators are highly effective in reducing salivary contamination of the surrounding environment. And that preprocedural mouth rinses consistently reduced salivary microbial bio loads."

    " 'Within the limitations of the small sample side, we conclude that the risk of transmission of SARS-CoV-2 and other respiratory pathogens from aerosolized saliva in dental operatories is moderately low, and that current infection control practices are adequately robust to protect personnel and patients alike.' And I would just like to throw a caveat, too - that is when you actually do proper standard precautions."

    "We're not going to be a vector for disease in regards to COVID."

    "If we do follow all the aspects of standard precautions, and we reassess our hierarchy of controls, we are great. We are a very safe place to be."

    LINKS:

    A Tale of Two Hygienists homepage - https://ataleoftwohygienists.com/

    AToTH on Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/aTaleOfTwoHygienists/

    AToTH on Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/ataleoftwohygienists

    AToTH on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/company/atoth/?originalSubdomain=ca

    PDT Homepage

    Sources of SARS-CoV-2 and Other Microorganisms in Dental Aerosols

    Spring's Email


    Fast Facts: Perio Edition "Premedication Changes" Jun 07, 2021
    Show notes

    On this week's episode of Fast Facts - Perio Edition your host, Katrina Sanders, RDH takes a look at prophylactic antibiotics for the reduction of potential infective endocarditis.

    Quotes:

    "As we've continued to see research unpacking some of the risks associated with utilizing antibiotics before a dental procedure, we've actually found that there are incredible risks associated with overuse of antibiotics in our patient population."

    "In fact, the guidelines note that people who are at risk for infective endocarditis are actually regularly exposed to oral bacteria during activities like brushing or flossing. And so the statement remains."

    "New research from the American Heart Association is encouraging optimal oral health as a key component to reducing the risk of infective endocarditis and may play a more profound role than the concerns of bacterial seeding and subsequent utilization of antibiotics prophylactically before dental procedures."

    Resources:

    DentistRX: https://www.dentistrx.com

    More Fast Facts: https://www.ataleoftwohygienists.com/fast-facts/

    Katrina Sanders Website: https://www.katrinasanders.com

    Katrina Sanders Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thedentalwinegenist/

    Sources:

    Wilson W, Taubert KA, Gewitz M, et al. Prevention of infective endocarditis: guidelines from the American Heart Association: a guideline from the American Heart Association Rheumatic Fever, Endocarditis, and Kawasaki Disease Committee, Council on Cardiovascular Disease in the Young, and the Council on Clinical Cardiology, Council on Cardiovascular Surgery and Anesthesia, and the Quality of Care and Outcomes Research Interdisciplinary Working Group. Circulation 2007;116(15):1736-54.

    Wilson W, Taubert KA, Gewitz M, et al. Prevention of infective endocarditis: guidelines from the American Heart Association: a guideline from the American Heart Association Rheumatic Fever, Endocarditis and Kawasaki Disease Committee, Council on Cardiovascular Disease in the Young, and the Council on Clinical Cardiology, Council on Cardiovascular Surgery and Anesthesia, and the Quality of Care and Outcomes Research Interdisciplinary Working Group. J Am Dent Assoc 2008;139 Suppl:3S-24S.

    Nishimura RA, Otto CM, Bonow RO, et al. 2017 AHA/ACC Focused Update of the 2014 AHA/ACC Guideline for the Management of Patients With Valvular Heart Disease: A Report of the American College of Cardiology/American Heart Association Task Force on Clinical Practice Guidelines. Circulation 2017; 135: e1159-e1195. Accessed February 21, 2019.

    Wilson, W. R., Gewitz, M., Lockhart, P. B., Bolger, A. F., DeSimone, D. C., Kazi, D. S., ... & Baddour, L. M. (2021). Prevention of Viridans Group Streptococcal Infective Endocarditis: A Scientific Statement From the American Heart Association. Circulation, CIR-0000000000000969.


    Game Time: Conference Edition with Sandy Lee, Carlos Rodriguez and his Ass-Less Chaps, and Amanda Hill Jun 06, 2021
    Show notes

    For this A Tale of Two Hygienists bonus episode Andrew is joined by Sandy Lee and Carlos Rodriguez, and Amanda Hill. Andrew plays a game with his guests, where they answer his questions around the ADHA conference and points are awarded based on what Andrew feels is the best answer. Spoiler alert Andrew is not a fan of ass-less chaps, fanny packs nor twerking. Episode Highlights

    • Who are Sandy, Carlos and Amanda
    • The Conference Gameshow
    • Q1: Why should you participate in conferences
    • Q2: Feelings about Phoenix, AZ
    • Q3: ADHA session schedule review
    • Q4: Stargazing & Boots a Blazing Event
    • Q5: Closing Event:
    Quotes "My official title is A Tale of Two Hygienists #1 fan!." "The more people that you know in the feel you are working the more you sill feel like you have allies." "You have to pack an extra bag for all the stuff that you get people." "I don't think there is another number one way to network outside of conferences." "You leave a conference with action items on what you are going to do to practice better dental hygiene." "Of course there is a right answer, this my gameshow, I can do what I want." "This is a dictatorship of a podcast." "Negative 30 for owning chaps." Links Off Your Flosser Podcast: https://www.offyourflosser.com/ Your Dental Top 5 Podcast: https://wavve.link/YourDentalTop5

    TIPisode Protect Your Investment Jun 04, 2021
    Show notes

    This week on A Tale of Two Hygienists TIPisode we are joined by Dr. Joy D. Void-Holmes, RDH, BSDH, MHSc, AADH to discuss protecting your investment in your dental hygiene instruments with the use of cassettes. Dr. Joy D. Void-Holmes, RDH, BSDH, MHSc, AADH is the founder Dr. Joy, RDH and the creator of the Dental Hygiene Student Planner. Episode Highlights

    • Protecting your investment
    • Saving Time "Time is Money"
    Quotes "The unthinkable happens, half the tips are broken." "What could you have done, or used to save 2 minutes on your patient." "If you use cassettes you can save 5-7 min per patient." "There was a needle on the tray that accidentally found a home in the dental reps foot." "Cassettes make things easy to find, and assist with instrument management." "Buying instruments without a cassette is a lot like buying red bottoms without a bag, you need to protect your investment." Links Follow Dr. Joy on Instagram Follow Dr. Joy on Facebook Visit Dr. Joy's website More TIPisodes

    282 Student Focused Presents: The Roses And Thorns Of Dental Hygiene School Jun 02, 2021
    Show notes

    Please Leave a Review!

    It's A Tale of Two Hygienists' monthly student roundtable episode, which means Andrew and Michelle have invited a roster of guests to educate student listeners on a chosen topic. This month, guest co-host Claire Jeong, MS, RDH, joins Andrew and Michelle in welcoming some recent dental hygiene graduates to the podcast. Alyssa Todora, Bonny Harris, Keyla Lee, and Katie Sinclair are the four stellar graduates whose instructors have recommended them as excellent candidates to share their observations regarding both their education and transition to working in the profession here today.

    In this episode, Claire shares details about her new podcast, and our graduates offer their perspective on the professional positions they have chosen to accept, the highs and lows of dental hygiene school, their areas of confidence and nervousness regarding their new positions, and the rotations in which they were able to participate. Together, the panel discusses dental hygiene school curriculum, the understanding that dentists have of the work of which hygienists are capable, a valuable Facebook group, and their 'do's and don'ts' advice for current students.

    EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS:

    Interview starts: 3:14

    - Claire's new podcast, 'RDHBites'

    - Our graduates and the schools from which they are graduating

    - How they chose the jobs they have lined up

    - The Dental Implants Uncovered Facebook group

    - The highs and lows of dental hygiene school

    - Areas of confidence and nervousness as they enter the profession

    - The rotations in which they were able to participate

    - Dental hygiene school curriculum

    - Dentists' understanding of hygienists' capabilities

    - 'Do's and don'ts' advice for current students

    QUOTES:

    "For me, personally, I wanted to be able to experience different offices, I wanted to see what I liked."

    "I think the hardest part was, you kind of always were criticized in dental hygiene school - kind of felt like everything you did was wrong."

    "I definitely made some really great relationships - I think lifelong friends."

    "Now that I'm graduated, I kind of just feel super empowered."

    "I'm also super hard on myself."

    "So I'm super grateful for the faculty that I was able to run into."

    "There are names of people that I know from my instructors that I feel like I could email or reach out to for support or for ideas. And so I think, you know, that's pretty cool."

    "My first day on the job, I died already inside!"

    "I don't know what I should be nervous about or what I don't know."

    "I had one of my worst experiences in my rotation."

    "I don't really know what to expect, but I am excited, and I'm having a very positive mindset about it. And I'm just ready to take whatever comes at me, and I'm just going to have to roll with it."

    "Even on those days where I'm not, like, deep scaling, I'm working my butt off and talking about sleep, and I'm talking about my functional therapy and education."

    "You are more than a scaler."

    "A dental hygienist is an advocate and an educator."

    "Definitely don't procrastinate. It just causes more stress….don't try to be perfect."

    "Don't compare yourself to other students in your cohort."

    "Ask questions to your faculty. Ask questions to even the students with your cohort, and just stay on top of everything."

    "I actually, like, injured my wrist doing online school."

    "Be nice to yourself."

    "Keep learning."

    "Just know that you are coming into an amazing profession."

    LINKS:

    A Tale of Two Hygienists homepage - https://ataleoftwohygienists.com/

    AToTH on Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/aTaleOfTwoHygienists/

    AToTH on Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/ataleoftwohygienists

    AToTH on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/company/atoth/?originalSubdomain=ca

    Q-Optics

    RDHBites Podcast

    Dental Implants Uncovered Facebook Group


    Fast Facts: Perio Edition "Medically Compromised Patients & Antibiotics" May 31, 2021
    Show notes

    On this week's episode of Fast Facts - Perio Edition your host, Katrina Sanders, RDH talks to us about premedication guidelines as they relate to the medically compromised patient.

    Quotes:

    "It is worth it to note that some patients, for example, beyond artificial joint replacement, may also require premedication."

    "JADA notated in their 2017 article that patients that are medically compromised or present with immunocompromising diseases may in fact require premedication, particularly if they have a prosthetic joint."

    "Additionally, the National Institute of Dental and Craniofacial Research recommends that in patients receiving chemotherapy in which there is a central venous catheter, that consultation should be performed with the treating oncologist about the need for antibiotic prophylaxis prior to proceeding with any dental procedures."

    Resources:

    DentistRX: https://www.dentistrx.com

    More Fast Facts: https://www.ataleoftwohygienists.com/fast-facts/

    Katrina Sanders Website: https://www.katrinasanders.com

    Katrina Sanders Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thedentalwinegenist/

    Sources:

    Rethman MP, Watters W, 3rd, Abt E, et al. The American Academy of Orthopaedic Surgeons and the American Dental Association clinical practice guideline on the prevention of orthopaedic implant infection in patients undergoing dental procedures. J Bone Joint Surg Am 2013;95(8):745-7.

    Stoopler ET, Sia YW, Kuperstein AS. Do patients with solid organ transplants or breast implants require antibiotic prophylaxis before dental treatment? J Can Dent Assoc 2012;78:c5.

    Holland B, Kohler T. Minimizing Penile Implant Infection: A Literature Review of Patient and Surgical Factors. Curr Urol Rep 2015;16(12):81.

    National Institute of Dental and Craniofacial Research. Dental Provider's Oncology Pocket Guide. Department of Health and Human Services 2009. Accessed February 21, 2019.


    Bonus "One Year Of Free Travel: Where Would You Go?" May 28, 2021
    Show notes

    Michelle and Andrew have a love for travel so they are excited for this casual podcast (which they haven't done in a while) where they can share some of the dreamiest places to travel. In this special bonus episode Andrew and Michelle are joined by Spring Hatfield, RDH to talk about the "Your Shot To Fly Sweepstakes" through United Airlines, highlighting where they would travel if they won the grand prize of 26 roundtrip flights! In this episode Andrew and Michelle also play a rapid fire round of 20 questions with Spring!

    Where would you travel? Enter below:

    United Your Shot To Fly Sweepstakes https://www.united.com/ual/en/us/fly/travel/your-shot-to-fly-sweepstakes.html


    TIPisode: Pharmacy Pitfalls May 28, 2021
    Show notes

    This week on A Tale of Two Hygienists TIPisode we are joined by Hayley Buckner, RDH. Hayley talks to us about the pitfalls of relying on your pharmacy for prescription strength toothpaste. Episode Highlights

    • Pitfalls of pharmacy prescription toothpaste
    • Compliance is key
    • Health Warehouse
    Quotes "We are not just talking about kids, adults need these therapies too." "The majority of offices don't have products on hand, and rely on pharmacies." "Many of the brands available in pharmacies do not include abrasives." "Dispense if you can." Links This TIPisode is sponsored by Elevate Oral Care, For more information visit: Elevate Oral Care Website: http://www.elevateoralcare.com Elevate Oral Care Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/elevateoralcare Elevate Oral Care Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/elevate_oral_care/ More TIPisodes: https://www.ataleoftwohygienists.com/tipisodes/ AToTH Website: https://www.ataleoftwohygienists.com

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