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    A Tale of Two Hygienists Podcast

    We created A Tale of Two Hygienists in 2015 because we are passionate about helping our fellow clinicians be the best version of themselves, both professionally and personally. We Interview experts in their fields to provide better care for our patients while promoting the joys of being a dental hygienist.

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    EXCITING ANNOUNCEMENT! We Have Big News!!! **Bonus** Jul 26, 2021
    Show notes

    On this AToTH bonus episode Andrew learns how to use our new podcasting equipment and Michelle talks with Melissa Turner, Brooke Crouch and Sarah Crow about the Cellerant Best Of Class Hygiene Awards!

    Episode Highlights

    • Cellerant
    • Best of Class Hygiene Awards
    • Virtual Award Program
    • December - We select WINNERS!
    • Debate (To the Death for Michelle)

    "We look at the technology and pick out the products that stand out amongst the crowd."

    "We sat down and said he HAVE TO extend this to dental hygiene."

    "Spirit has down grades only."

    "Pandemic man, there isn't even anything left to say about that."

    "Just because there is a category, doesn't mean there is a winner."

    "We all have our individual backgrounds."

    "We all have those couple of things we love."

    "This award is one of the most prestigious awards in dental hygiene."

    "This award is completely unbiased."

    "This award has integrity, it is about doing what is right when no one is watching."

    "The innovation is what dental hygiene has needed for a minute."

    "Are we going to have safe words, are we going to have a time out chair for Michelle?"

    "To the DEATH… who said that? Did I miss a memo?"

    "We are all talking about having a friendly debate and Michelle is to the death over here."

    The Cellerant Best of Class Hygiene panel members include:

    • Melissa Turner, BASDH, RDHEP, EFDA- Chief Hygiene Officer, Cellerant Consulting; Editorial Advisory Board, RDH Magazine; Co-founder, National Mobile & Teledentistry Conference; Co-Founder, The Denobi Awards; Founder- I Heart Dentistry Network; Co-host, Dentistry Gone Wild; Co-creator, Oral Health United melissa@cellerantconsulting.com
    • Pamela Maragliano-Munez, RDH, DMD, FACP- Chief Development Officer, Cellerant Consulting; Editor In Chief, Dental Economics; Editorial Director, Dental Academy of Continuing Education; Associate clinical professor, Tufts University School of Dental Medicine senoritadiente100@gmail.com
    • Andrew Johnston, RDH, BSBM- Director of Hygiene, Coast Dental; Co-host, A Tale of Two Hygienists Andrew@ataleoftwohygienists.com
    • Amanda Hill, RDH, BSDH- Host, Your Dental Top 5; Editorial Advisory Board, RDH Magazine; Industry Educator, Dental Post; Certified Educator, OSAP-DALE Foundation amandahillrdh@gmail.com
    • Brooke Crouch, RDH- Vice President, American Mobile & Teledentistry Alliance; Clinical Advisory Board Chair, Virginia Health Catalyst; Oral Health Action Team Chair, United Way of Roanoke Valley brookecrouchdentalconsulting@gmail.com
    • Kristin Goodfellow, RDH, BA- Clinical Director, OraCare Oral Rinse; 2013 Recipient, Proctor & Gamble's Excellence in Patient Communication Award; Featured author, Dental Products Report & RDH Magazine kristin@wilmarmanagement.com
    • Michelle Strange, MSDH, RDH- Co-host, A Tale of Two Hygienists; Client Success Manager, MouthWatch; Co-founder, LevelUp Infection Prevention; Editorial Advisory Board, Dental Economics Michelle@ataleoftwohygienists.com
    • Nancy Miller, RDH, BA- Founder, UltraConcepts; Clinical Advisor, Jameson Management; Adjunct Faculty & Clinical Instructor, Northeast Wisconsin Technical College; njmillerdh@aol.com
    • Sarah Crow, RDH- President-elect, ADHA Massachusetts; Co-founder MDHA Mentor Liaison Team; Recipient, Massachusetts Dental Society Hygienist of the Year; Recipient, Middlesex Community College Member of the Year; Feature Writer, ADHA Access Magazine sarahjcrow@gmail.com

    Links

    Press Release: https://www.dentistrytoday.com/news/industrynews/item/8635-cellerant-best-of-class-hygiene-award-program-launches-for-2021

    Learn about Cellerant www.cellerantconsulting.com


    Fast Facts: Perio Edition "Dental Biofilm Induced Gingivitis - Systemic [Modifying Factors]" Jul 26, 2021
    Show notes

    On this week's episode of Fast Facts - Perio Edition your host, Katrina Sanders, RDH discusses systemic or modifying factors for patients that present with dental biofilm induced gingivitis.

    Quotes:

    "What we're really talking about is the fact that in addition, these individuals present with a dramatic rise in their sex steroid hormone levels during puberty."

    "we look at patients that present with medication for contraception, namely patients that take over-the-counter birth control pills. These are going to be patients that will present with some type of a gingival inflammation in many cases due to the concentration of sex steroid hormones."

    Resources:

    DentistRX: https://www.dentistrx.com

    More Fast Facts: https://www.ataleoftwohygienists.com/fast-facts/

    Katrina Sanders Website: https://www.katrinasanders.com

    Katrina Sanders Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thedentalwinegenist/

    Sources:

    Chapple ILC, MealeyBL, et al. Periodontal health and gingival diseases and conditions on anintact and a reduced periodontium: Consensus report of workgroup 1 of the 2017 WorldWorkshop on the Classification of Periodontal and Peri-Implant Diseases and Conditions.JPeriodontol.2018;89 (Suppl 1): S74-S84


    TIPisode Xylitol: Weapon Against Acid Producing Bacteria Jul 23, 2021
    Show notes

    This week on A Tale of Two Hygienists TIPisode we are joined by Steve Pardue from Elevate Oral Care to talk about xylitol, a tool to fight against acid producing bacteria!

    Episode Highlights

    • Demineralization and Remineralization
    • Xylitol
    • Quantity of Xylitol

    Quotes

    "Everyday when we eat and drink our exposed teeth demineralize for a period of time."

    "Fluoride hardens the tooth surfaces but does little to effect the bacterial presence in the mouth."

    "Xylitol has no effect on the tooth but can starve out specific bacteria that are very acid producing."

    "You don't need to consume a bunch of xylitol, just rather just have small amounts throughout the day."

    "Here at Elevate we try to add xylitol to everything we can."

    Links

    Schedule AGD CE Accredited Staff Meeting 877-866-9113 or email info@elevateoralcare.com

    Patient Centered Communication Video Series: http://www.elevateoralcare.com/elevatingcare

    Elevate Oral Care Website: http://www.elevateoralcare.com

    Elevate Oral Care Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/elevateoralcare

    Elevate Oral Care Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/elevate_oral_care/

    More TIPisodes: https://www.ataleoftwohygienists.com/tipisodes/

    AToTH Website: https://www.ataleoftwohygienists.com


    289 IRONMAN: 7 Tips To Better Team Performance With Lisa Copeland, RDH, CSP, CVP Jul 21, 2021
    Show notes

    Please Leave a Review!

    THIS EPISODE COUNTS FOR CE! - but read the disclaimers it might not count for your state.

    Go here to take the test and get your free CE Credit!

    It's been a long time in the works, but Andrew and Michelle finally get to welcome someone to the show today that so many listeners have been requesting – the amazing Lisa Copeland, RDH, CSP, CVP. With a remarkably successful corporate healthcare speaking career under marketing, sales, and education spanning 30 years, Lisa is a veritable fountain of information, experience, and advice. Her current focus is on the generational communication aspect of dentistry, a critical component in practices these days, and she shares her IRONMAN principles regarding this communication with listeners here today.

    In this episode, Lisa shares some of her background and experience, explains generational communication, and walks through her IRONMAN principles of business communication. She also discusses teledentistry, one of COVID's silver linings, connecting communication and money, getting team members participating, and highlighting the positives about practices. She finishes up by promoting some ways to get IRONMAN started in practices and introducing her upcoming 'Dental Teams Unite' initiative.

    EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS:

    Interview starts: 13:10

    - Lisa's background

    - Generational communication

    - Lisa's Iron Man experiences and training

    - The Iron Man principles of business communication

    - Teledentistry

    - One silver lining of COVID

    - Connecting communication and money

    - Getting team members to participate in communication strategies

    - Highlighting positives about your practice

    - Getting IRONMAN started in your practice

    - Dental Teams Unite

    QUOTES:

    "People are just little plague rats in my life, and I want to stay away from them."

    "I put a really heavy, heavy emphasis on generational communication now, because there's so much friction with four or even five generations working in the workforce."

    "The youngest generation coming to the workforce is Gen Z, and they are, you know, they've been bookended. They had the great recession, and now they're living through COVID."

    "People evaluate 11 things about you, in seven seconds."

    "Start just walking through your office as if you were a new patient coming into your practice."

    "Relationships are the cornerstone of every business."

    "If you're actively listening, you're listening with all of your senses, and you're really taking in what the person is trying to communicate to you, and not thinking about your answer immediately."

    "It's all teachable to people but some people are just naturally good at it. And some people have to really work at it."

    "We have to look at their wants first and then focus on their needs."

    "I would love to say that our hygienists are really good at including whatever their main concern is, or whatever the thing that they want. But it ends up being just an item on a treatment plan rather than a relationship."

    "Give people the opportunity to cross train, and also be leaders of different points."

    "Give them a call to action so they know what's next, what's coming up, and what's, you know, in their future."

    "You have to have processes and protocols in place for that seamless handoff and follow up."

    "Teledentistry has really closed the gap in a lot of the communication gaps that have occurred."

    "Are you telling me that we don't adopt research and evidence based practices in a timely manner?"

    "Once you get that team firing on all cylinders, it is such a beautiful thing."

    "I don't think we use the reception area, the waiting area, enough for acknowledgement and patient education."

    LINKS:

    A Tale of Two Hygienists Podcast

    A Tale of Two Hygienists homepage

    AToTH on Facebook

    AToTH on Instagram

    AToTH on LinkedIn

    ATOTH's Linktree Page

    Michelle's Facebook Page

    Volunteering: An Unexpected Way to Market Your Dental Practice

    PDT Homepage

    Communicate With Influence

    Dental Teams Unite

    Text Lisa @ (206)465-1637


    Fast Facts: Perio Edition "Dental Biofilm Induced Gingivitis - Local [Predisposing Factors]" Jul 19, 2021
    Show notes

    On this week's episode of Fast Facts - Perio Edition your host, Katrina Sanders, RDH discusses predisposing factors to dental biofilm induced gingivitis.

    Quotes:

    "I want to be very clear, this is when biofilm levels have begun to build up. And if we do not see any disruption or removal of this dental plaque accumulation over days or weeks, we're going to begin to see what's called an incipient dysbiosis."

    "And so oftentimes from a treatment standpoint, yes, we are having the conversation about biofilm control. But in some of these arenas, controlling that inflammatory condition may also mean that we need to control the risk factor, meaning if a patient is reacting to a PFM margin perhaps biofilm control alone may not be the only way to address this challenge."

    Resources:

    DentistRX: https://www.dentistrx.com

    More Fast Facts: https://www.ataleoftwohygienists.com/fast-facts/

    Katrina Sanders Website: https://www.katrinasanders.com

    Katrina Sanders Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thedentalwinegenist/

    Sources:

    Chapple ILC, MealeyBL, et al. Periodontal health and gingival diseases and conditions on anintact and a reduced periodontium: Consensus report of workgroup 1 of the 2017 WorldWorkshop on the Classification of Periodontal and Peri-Implant Diseases and Conditions.JPeriodontol.2018;89 (Suppl 1): S74-S84


    TIPisode Products For Your Pediatric And Teen Patients Jul 16, 2021
    Show notes

    This week on A Tale of Two Hygienists TIPisode we are joined by Pediatric Dentist, Dr.Jeannette MacLean to talk to us about the expanding MI Paste line from GC America.

    Episode Highlights

    • What is MI Paste?
    • Recaldent
    • Using MI Paste in Your Practice
    • Pediatric Patients
    • Teen Patients
    • MI Paste Plus
    • Hypersensitivity
    • MI Paste One
    • MI Paste Kids

    Quotes

    "MI paste is actually a topical tooth cream that contains recaldent."

    "It's nice to have an alternative to offer parents who are leery of fluoride."

    "It tastes good, it's a mild flavor so compliance is good."

    "In the process of doing that you are going to hyper mineralize the outer surface of the enamel."

    "As it hyper mineralizes it can sometimes stain."

    "I have had success with this Etch MI Paste technique."

    "Switching to MI Paste there was a noticeable difference in my sensitivity."

    "You can clean and protect teeth with MI Paste One."

    "The cotton candy flavor tastes like real cotton candy."

    Links

    MI Paste Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/mi.paste/

    MI Paste Family Products: https://www.gcamerica.com/products/preventive/MI_Paste_Plus/index.php

    Dr. MacLean Youtube Channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCuJ6qgHP6JxaIqmSe3HSLmQ

    Dr. MacLean Website

    https://kidsteethandbraces.com/

    http://www.gcamerica.com/ce/alleducation.php

    http://www.gcamerica.com


    288 What Happened To You? Discussing ACEs with Jasmin Haley, RDH, MSDH, CDA Jul 14, 2021
    Show notes

    Please Leave a Review!

    THIS EPISODE COUNTS FOR CE! - but read the disclaimers it might not count for your state.

    Go here to take the test and get your free CE Credit!

    Inspired by the book, What Happened To You?, by Bruce D. Perry and Oprah Winfrey, Michelle and Andrew have invited Jasmin Haley, RDH, MSDH, CDA to discuss Adverse Childhood Experiences (ACEs). The Founder and CEO of Beyond the Prophy and Co-Founder of the MOMgienist Community, Jasmin has extensive experience as a dental hygienist, national educator, and assistant, and is a 2018 recipient of the nationally recognized Sunstar/RDH Award of Distinction. Currently, she is also a speaker and a business growth strategist who helps entrepreneurs scale their business.

    In today's episode, our hosts and guest discuss ACEs, how they impact the lives of people, and the effects shown in individuals with high ACE scores. They also discuss how the brain works and how it embeds our experiences, the differences between PTSD and ACEs, and also how the gaps in education can prevent healthcare workers from realising how patient behavior can be a result of dealing with trauma. Jasmin concludes by recounting how she, despite having a high ACE score, was able to push through, and advising us all to look inwards and save ourselves by asking that most important question, "What happened to me?"

    EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS:

    Interview starts: 9:56

    - Jasmin discusses her new journey as an entrepreneur and business growth strategist.

    - What Are Adverse Childhood Experiences (ACEs)?

    - The effects on ACEs - the number one public health threat.

    - Defining a traumatic event.

    - Types of ACEs and their impacts on a developing brain

    - PTSD vs ACEs - the differences

    - Kaiser Permanente's research on ACES

    - The education gaps healthcare workers have and how they affect patients.

    - Lessons from the book, What Happened To You?, By ‎Bruce D. Perry and Oprah Winfrey.

    - How the brain embeds our experiences.

    - Jasmin's struggles with ACEs as a child.

    - What is resiliency?

    - The importance of looking inwards to find out what happened to you.

    - The tree of regulation.

    - 3 ways to help patients dealing with traumas

    - How to bring up the subject of ACEs with people

    QUOTES:

    "The question should always be 'What happened to you?', regardless of what that person's problem is."

    "Every course that I've taught, I realized that there were gaps in our education."

    "To know that there is a whole other world of healthcare workers out there that are not trauma informed and could therefore be harming our patients more than doing good is scary."

    "How many times did I not give my patients the treatment that they needed because I was annoyed with their behavior that they might not have not even understood."

    "There's a huge component of resiliency that we all have but there are many of us that are left behind."

    "When we look at ACEs, it's almost like an oil spill, and it just spills over every single possible medical condition you can think of."

    "What if these children who had these experiences had that one person that just poured into them at that right moment?"

    "It starts with us, we've got to work on ourselves first."

    "It sounds like the majority of us are broken so we might not know how to save ourselves first."

    "We're meant to be in community. We are relational creatures."

    "How are we impacting every single person that we're meeting in a meaningful way?"

    "If we're not willing to give ourselves that same amount of compassion, how in the world are we going to do that for our patients?"

    LINKS:

    A Tale of Two Hygienists Podcast

    A Tale of Two Hygienists homepage

    AToTH on Facebook

    AToTH on Instagram

    AToTH on LinkedIn

    Jasmin Haley Homepage

    Nadine Burke Harris's TEDtalk


    Fast Facts: Perio Edition "AAP 2017 Classification System - Introduction to Gingivitis" Jul 12, 2021
    Show notes

    On this week's episode of Fast Facts - Perio Edition your host, Katrina Sanders, RDH discusses the two major categories of gingivitis as are defined by the 2017 AAP classification system.

    Quotes:

    "Gingivitis is a reversible disease process of the periodontium meaning the expectation now is for us as clinicians to see gingivitis as a disease process, albeit reversible."

    "We can also classify gingival diseases as being non dental biofilm induced, and this is the tough one for hygienists because we absolutely love the kind of inflammation in which our mechanized scalars or our hands scalars can get in there and clear out that inflammatory process."

    Resources:

    DentistRX: https://www.dentistrx.com

    More Fast Facts: https://www.ataleoftwohygienists.com/fast-facts/

    Katrina Sanders Website: https://www.katrinasanders.com

    Katrina Sanders Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thedentalwinegenist/

    Sources:

    Chapple ILC, MealeyBL, et al. Periodontal health and gingival diseases and conditions on anintact and a reduced periodontium: Consensus report of workgroup 1 of the 2017 WorldWorkshop on the Classification of Periodontal and Peri-Implant Diseases and Conditions.JPeriodontol.2018;89 (Suppl 1): S74-S84


    Game Time: RDH Under One Roof Edition with Sandy Lee, Carlos Rodriguez, and Michelle Strange! Jul 11, 2021
    Show notes

    Welcome back everyone to a bonus episode where Andrew makes up the game as he goes along and awards points for great answers! On this episode he focuses on RDH Under One Roof and is joined by return guests Sandy Lee and Carlos Rodriguez and new "guest" Michelle Strange! Learn about what these guests are looking forward to at RDHUOR and how much they know about Indiana, and their own states!

    Listen until the end to find out who is the winner!

    Register for RDH Under One Roof: https://www.rdhunderoneroof.com/rdhuor2021/registration


    TIPisode Team Mentality In Clinical Dental Hygiene Jul 09, 2021
    Show notes

    This week on A Tale of Two Hygienists TIPisode we are joined by Jessica Atkinson, RDH, MEd from Hygiene Edge to talk about having a team mentality in clinical dental hygiene This TIPisode is sponsored by Orascoptic. Visit www.Orascoptic.com to learn more. Quotes "coming together is a beginning, keeping together is progress, working together is success." "You have to ask yourself, is that a habit that is beneficial for my students." "If you really think there is an issue, go to the clinic coordinator." "There is no room for back biting when you want a successful education environment for your students." Links Hygiene Edge: https://www.hygieneedge.com More TIPisodes: https://www.ataleoftwohygienists.com/tipisodes/


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