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    A Tale of Two Hygienists Podcast

    We created A Tale of Two Hygienists in 2015 because we are passionate about helping our fellow clinicians be the best version of themselves, both professionally and personally. We Interview experts in their fields to provide better care for our patients while promoting the joys of being a dental hygienist.

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    296 Infection Control Hot Topics With Carrie Ibbetson, RDH And Jennifer Stanley, RDH Sep 08, 2021
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    THIS EPISODE COUNTS FOR CE! - but read the disclaimers it might not count for your state.

    Go here to take the test and get your free CE Credit!

    It's A Tale of Two Hygienists', roundtable edition, which means Andrew and Michelle have invited multiple guests on the podcast. This week:

    Carrie Ibbetson, RDH, returns to the show, alongside Jennifer Stanley, RDH, to discuss infection control and prevention in dental practices. Carrie has worked as a dental assistant, front office coordinator, and a dental hygienist, temping in many offices, and Jennifer is a dental hygienist also with temping experiences. They join Michelle today to share the experiences they have had with infection control breaches.

    In this episode, Jennifer and Carrie discuss their journey as dental hygienists and their experiences working as temps in various practices. They discuss the importance of infection control and standardization in the dental industry and the challenges they face as temps when trying to bring up these safety issues. They further discuss various experiences they have had in different practices where safety was breached. The episode rounds off with advice on how to advocate for your own safety without burning bridges.

    EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS:

    Interview starts: 4:02

    - Jennifer and Carrie discuss their careers and how they got into infection control

    - Infection control and prevention in the dental industry

    - The importance of standardization

    - Jennifer and Carrie discuss long term temping

    - The challenge of bringing up infection control issues as a temp

    - Challenging the lack of safety practices in the industry

    - Instances where practices have neglected infection prevention

    - Why you should learn infection control as a team

    - How to be your own advocate for safety

    - Where to find resources

    QUOTES:

    "I can't go back and change any of that but moving forward, I can be part of the change."

    "It's almost like when you're a hygienist and you're like, 'I hate the office, but I love my patients.'"

    "You love your patients so much, so why do you want them to be put in a disgusting situation?"

    "There are so many breaches of infection control that happen all the time, day in and day out."

    "The great thing about temping is, I can go anywhere, I can pick up and as long as I'm licensed in that state, I can have a job next week. I never have ever once worried about where my next paycheck is coming from."

    "Just like our brain, we move into habit loops with our infection control."

    "If you are somebody who is out there challenging anything, they will talk about you."

    "Once you start actually taking classes that you really need to be taking, and you delve deeper, and you decide to take your head out of the sand, it is not easy because you can't unsee it, you can't unlearn it."

    "No one should go to a clean facility and leave with a healthcare-associated infection."

    "Another really good point is to get on your local social media channels and start advocating for questions that the patients should be asking when they're coming in."

    LINKS:

    A Tale of Two Hygienists Podcast

    A Tale of Two Hygienists homepage

    AToTH on Facebook

    AToTH on Instagram

    AToTH on LinkedIn

    Carrieibbetson.com

    Stanley Dental


    Fast Facts: Perio Edition "AAP 2017 Classification System - Necrotizing Periodontal Diseases" Sep 06, 2021
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    On this week's episode of Fast Facts - Perio Edition your host, Katrina Sanders, RDH talks to us about necrotizing periodontal diseases.

    Quotes:

    "If any of you have ever treated a patient that has a necrotizing periodontal disease, you'll never forget it. In fact, the smell of that disease process alone is probably ingrained into your nose hairs, if you know what I'm talking about."

    "This can also be observed with patients that have an odor, the patients are absolutely experiencing severe inflammation, and I hate to say it, one of my favorite parts about necrotizing disease is that it's oftentimes accompanied by pain, which I think oftentimes is a massive driver."

    Resources:

    DentistRX: https://www.dentistrx.com

    More Fast Facts: https://www.ataleoftwohygienists.com/fast-facts/

    Katrina Sanders Website: https://www.katrinasanders.com

    Katrina Sanders Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thedentalwinegenist/

    Sources:

    Herrera, D., Retamal‐Valdes, B., Alonso, B., & Feres, M. (2018). Acute periodontal lesions (periodontal abscesses and necrotizing periodontal diseases) and endo‐periodontal lesions. Journal of clinical periodontology, 45, S78-S94.


    TIPisode: Get The Most Out Of AToTH Sep 03, 2021
    Show notes

    This week on A Tale of Two Hygienists TIPisode we are joined by Michelle and Andrew! Your hosts are giving you the tips on all the ways to learn and thrive with A Tale of Two Hygienists!

    Episode Highlights

    • The Podcast - Get your CE (IT IS FREE)
    • TIPisodes
    • Fast Facts: Perio Edition
    • Fact Facts: Pharmacology Edition
    • Social Media
    • AToTH Library - Website
    • Newsletter - Subscribe HERE.
    • Support us by subscribing and reviewing AToTH

    Quotes

    "I wish I had done a better job of keeping my CE tracked."

    "Use it, you never know when you might need more CE."

    "A lot of our growth has been through social media, so thank you for sharing, liking and following."

    "We've only been around for 3 years, why do we need a website?"

    "We are setting a standard of high quality information coming out through social media."

    "If you are a social media person you can get content there, if you are an audio person get content through the podcast, and if you are a written content or video person check out our website."

    Links

    AToTH Survey - Complete by Sept 10th, 2021

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    295 Student Focused Presents: How To Order Instruments At Your New Job Sep 01, 2021
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    In this episode, Andrew Johnston, RDH is joined by Machell Hudson, RDH and Neil Hoover. On this episode our guests and Andrew dive into what it is like when you enter your first practice and how you can go about getting the equipment you need to be the best clinician possible.

    Machell is a repeat guest of A Tale of Two Hygienists and a clinical hygienist, speaker, coach and lover of all things Oral Systemic Health! Niel works in the DSO space with Dentsply Sirona and manages a team that manages the largest 150 dental support organizations in the industry.

    EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS:

    - New Grads

    - Hygiene School vs. Practice

    - Formularies

    - Budget

    - Lunch & Learn

    Interview starts: 2:33

    QUOTES:

    "I was told in college we are the smartest we are ever going to be."

    "I am really so grateful that I temped at first because I got to experience different practices and methods."

    "Not a single practice was like what clinic was in college."

    "If you've seen one DSO, you have seen one DSO, they are all different."

    "There is no way any single individual out there can know every product on the market."

    "Budget is not a bad term."

    "The dental organization wants the best optimal clinical care done, no matter what."

    "Go slow, to go fast."

    "Lean on your doctor when you get out, they seem a little scary when you first get out but they are not."

    LINKS:

    Machell@integrativedentalcoaching.com

    Dentsply Sirona - Preventive

    A Tale of Two Hygienists Podcast

    A Tale of Two Hygienists homepage

    AToTH on Facebook

    AToTH on Instagram

    AToTH on LinkedIn


    Fast Facts: Perio Edition "Non-Dental Biofilm Induced Gingivitis - Traumatic Lesions" Aug 30, 2021
    Show notes

    On this week's episode of Fast Facts - Perio Edition your host, Katrina Sanders, RDH looks at patients specifically who present with non dental biofilm induced gingivitis associated with traumatic lesions or hypersensitivity reactions.

    Quotes:

    "These are going to be patients that may have some type of a reaction due to dental restorative materials. These could be patients that are reacting to their toothpaste, their mouthwash, some type of a food, and most oftentimes these are patients that are presenting with a type 4 delayed contact, hypersensitivity reaction."

    "These are changes in which we begin to see shifts or movement of the soft tissue, again, not necessarily due to the presence of biofilm, but rather the presence of clinical disorders or allergic reactions."

    Resources:

    DentistRX: https://www.dentistrx.com

    More Fast Facts: https://www.ataleoftwohygienists.com/fast-facts/

    Katrina Sanders Website: https://www.katrinasanders.com

    Katrina Sanders Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thedentalwinegenist/

    Sources:

    Chapple ILC, MealeyBL, et al. Periodontal health and gingival diseases and conditions on anintact and a reduced periodontium: Consensus report of workgroup 1 of the 2017 WorldWorkshop on the Classification of Periodontal and Peri-Implant Diseases and Conditions.JPeriodontol.2018;89 (Suppl 1): S74-S84


    TIPisode Prevention In Restoration Aug 27, 2021
    Show notes

    This week on A Tale of Two Hygienists TIPisode we are joined by Andrea Wiseman, RDH from Elevate Oral Care to talk to us about prevention in restoration materials.

    Episode Highlights

    • Planing the tooth
    • Restorations
    • Glass Ionomer
    • SELDOX

    Quotes

    "Bacteria loves these areas with rough edges."

    "Restorations have an expected lifespan."

    "With modern chemistry we are finding ways to prevent bacterial adhesion at these sites and help make permanent restorations more realistic."

    "If the resin chips or fractures even the new exposed material is protected."

    "If it's too late for prevention at least now we can include prevention in the restoration to avoid secondary decay."

    Links

    Schedule AGD CE Accredited Staff Meeting 877-866-9113 or email info@elevateoralcare.com

    Patient Centered Communication Video Series: http://www.elevateoralcare.com/elevatingcare

    Elevate Oral Care Website: http://www.elevateoralcare.com

    Elevate Oral Care Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/elevateoralcare

    Elevate Oral Care Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/elevate_oral_care/

    More TIPisodes: https://www.ataleoftwohygienists.com/tipisodes/

    AToTH Website: https://www.ataleoftwohygienists.com


    294 Back To School: A Discussion With Students On How Educators Have Helped Them Succeed Aug 25, 2021
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    Jessica Atkinson, MEd, BSDH, RDH., Melia Lewis, MEd, BSDH, RDH., and Shelley Brown, MEd, BSDH, RDH., of 'Hygiene Edge' host the podcast this week. They have invited their students Angie, Blair, and Courtney to discuss challenges they faced in dental hygiene education and ways hygiene educators can set up students for success. Angie is about to start her final year at Dixie State University, Blair is a recent graduate from the Texas Woman's University, and Courtney is about to graduate.

    In this episode, Angie, Blair, and Courtney each describe the challenges they faced as new students of dental hygiene, including the effects of the pandemic and the changes that came with going online for learning. They also discuss how instructors have been helpful with resources, why good communication is important between instructors and students, the importance of mentors, and then round off the episode by giving advice to dental hygiene educators from their perspective as students.

    EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS:

    Interview starts: 2:30

    - What was overwhelming to Angie as a new hygiene student

    - Blair explains feeling out of place as a new student

    - How a year break from school made Courtney anxious about going back

    - Transitioning online during the pandemic

    - How do educators assist students with resources?

    - Why good communication is important

    - Face-to-face communication versus online

    - The importance of constructive pep talks

    - The benefits of having different instructors

    - Why there is a need for mentors

    - How instructors help with the workload

    - Advice from a student's perspective

    - How personal is too personal?

    - 3 tips for dental hygiene educators

    QUOTES:

    "The biggest thing I remember, especially on my first day, the first summer classes, was just feeling so alone in the fact that I felt kind of unworthy to be there."

    "I just remember being so excited that it was finally here. I've been set on being a dental hygienist since I was in junior high."

    "Don't be nervous to ask for specifics."

    "It's all about teamwork and getting through with our classmates."

    "I just really value face to face communication when it's possible"

    "It's interesting how education has changed. When I was a student, I would always just go directly to the office, I don't feel like we communicated via email a whole lot."

    "So every time someone would stop and ask me for my reasoning, that is what helped me more."

    "I think I hesitate too long oftentimes in clinic to ask for help or for an instructor to kind of give me guidance on things."

    "There is always a point in school that feels like you can't do it anymore. It's too much, but you can always just hang on."

    "Everybody teaches differently, everybody learns differently."

    "You're there to learn and grow from each other's experiences, there to learn and grow from the experiences of your instructors, and to really become the best hygienists possible."

    "When I can connect with an instructor I feel so much more comfortable asking them for help."

    "The only thing harder than being a dental hygiene student is being a dental hygiene educator."

    LINKS:

    A Tale of Two Hygienists Podcast

    A Tale of Two Hygienists homepage

    AToTH on Facebook

    AToTH on Instagram

    AToTH on LinkedIn

    PDT Homepage

    HYGIENE EDGE homepage


    Fast Facts: Perio Edition "Non-Dental Biofilm Induced Gingivitis - Mucocutaneous Disorders" Aug 23, 2021
    Show notes

    On this week's episode of Fast Facts - Perio Edition your host, Katrina Sanders, RDH continues the conversation about patients that can present with an oral inflammatory condition not associated with dental biofilm. This week we are looking at patients that present with Mucocutaneous disorders.

    Quotes:

    "This is going to be a lot of pathology talk. For those of you who hated pathology in hygiene school, buckle up because we're doing it."

    "So the opportunity for us, if we begin to see desquamative gingivitis or some type of a vestigial or lesion in the free or attached gingiva that is not resolved by our periodontal therapy, by our debriding therapy, that sending this patient in for testing could help diagnose this autoimmune disorder before it begins to involve the skin."

    Resources:

    DentistRX: https://www.dentistrx.com

    More Fast Facts: https://www.ataleoftwohygienists.com/fast-facts/

    Katrina Sanders Website: https://www.katrinasanders.com

    Katrina Sanders Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thedentalwinegenist/

    Sources:

    Chapple ILC, MealeyBL, et al. Periodontal health and gingival diseases and conditions on anintact and a reduced periodontium: Consensus report of workgroup 1 of the 2017 WorldWorkshop on the Classification of Periodontal and Peri-Implant Diseases and Conditions.JPeriodontol.2018;89 (Suppl 1): S74-S84


    TIPisode: Are Restorative Hygienists Real? Aug 20, 2021
    Show notes

    This week's TIPisode is delivered by our very own Andrew Johnston, RDH! He focuses the discussion on what a restorative hygienist does and tells us about his decision tree for selecting a restorative material. He also breaks down the restorative hygienist model for increased production and retention! It's a good episode for the whole team!

    Links

    http://www.gcamerica.com/ce/alleducation.php

    http://www.gcamerica.com

    http://www.gcamerica.com/products/operatory/EQUIA_Forte/

    http://www.gcamerica.com/products/operatory/EQUIA-Forte-HT/


    293 Reimagine Dental Hygiene With Dental Assistant Support With Andrea Hight Aug 18, 2021
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    THIS EPISODE COUNTS FOR CE! - but read the disclaimers it might not count for your state.

    Go here to take the test and get your free CE Credit!

    Andrea Hight, Area Sales Manager for Software/Technology at Henry Schein One, joins Michelle today for a discussion about the critical role of the hygienist in improving overall health outcomes. With a dental career that boasts a strong focus on public, community health, and DSO dental models, Andrea also serves as a member of the board of directors for the National Network for Oral Health Access, Healthy Smiles for Kids, and the American Institute for Public Health Dentistry. Today, she shares her PowerPoint presentation regarding the importance of hygienists and the standardization of procedures in dental practices.

    In this episode, Andrea starts the conversation by discussing the various roles she has taken on in the dental space, and then begins her presentation by looking at the triple aim of healthcare and how hygienists connect better with, and are less intimidating to, patients. She goes on to review the positive impact dental assistants bring to clinics and practices by saving time and bringing about increased revenues, and finishes off with a discussion about the importance of standardization and inventory management.

    EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS:

    Interview starts: 8:48

    - Andrea's dental career

    - What is the triple aim of healthcare?

    - The important role of the hygienist in connecting with patients

    - How dental assistants bring increased revenue to practices

    - Comparing the single column schedules with and without dental

    assistants

    - How to manage the work environment to boost productivity

    - The global treatment paradigm

    - 5 benefits of standardization

    - Why you need an actual patient flow

    - The importance of inventory management

    QUOTES:

    "I'm simply very passionate about the importance of oral health as part of overall health."

    "We're looking at making the patient experience more meaningful, making doing so cost-effective, and helping the patients become healthier at exactly the same time."

    "You've got great skills, why squander those skills when you can really enhance the impact you can have?"

    "Patients often find the hygienists to be less intimidating than the dentist, which supports more open communication, relationship building, and divulging of important health information."

    "DryShields do not replace dental assistants."

    "The end result of good planning with workflow in a dental assistant is you get to see more patients, you get to give them focused care, and the practice or program benefits with increased revenue, which more than offsets the cost of giving you a dental assistant."

    "Chronic little frustrations can be as hard on your system as a big stressor. In fact, chronic little stresses can be harder on you than a big stressor."

    "My first recommendation is that all rooms should be usable for everything. This enables you to adapt."

    "Be intentional about how the patient is from the moment the patient walks through the door into the clinic, through the clinic."

    "Applying evidence-based research and best practices are really valuable when you're determining materials."

    "It's amazing how many instructors are actually not training students to use the product according to the manufacturer's instructions."

    LINKS:

    A Tale of Two Hygienists Podcast

    A Tale of Two Hygienists homepage

    AToTH on Facebook

    AToTH on Instagram

    AToTH on LinkedIn

    Andrea's LinkedIn Page

    PowerPoint Link


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