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    Alternative Health

    The mindbodygreen Podcast

    The mindbodygreen podcast explores the infinite possibilities of health & well-being. Hosted by founder and co-CEO Jason Wachob, each episode features a thought-provoking interview with a leader in the health space. Whether you’re thinking about changing what’s on your plate, how you move, or how you think, these conversations are sure to offer solutions in whole-body health.

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    670: Why food quality matters more than calories | Dariush Mozaffarian, M.D. Oct 18, 2026
    Show notes

    “The food industry is experimenting on us without data and knowledge,” says Dariush Mozaffarian, M.D., DrPH.

    Mozaffarian is a cardiologist, Director of the Food is Medicine Institute at Tufts University, and author of the book, Food is Medicine (Holt/Macmillan). He serves as Distinguished Professor, Dean Emeritus, and Jean Mayer Professor; and is clinically active in cardiology at Tufts Medical Center. His work aims to create the evidence and translation for a food system that is nutritious, equitable, and sustainable. He has authored nearly 700 scientific publications, and has served in numerous advisory roles. His work has been featured in leading media outlets, and Thomson Reuters has named him as one of the World’s Most Influential Scientific Minds. Dr. Mozaffarian received his B.S. in biological sciences from Stanford, M.D. from Columbia, Doctorate in Public Health from Harvard, and clinical training in internal medicine at Stanford and in cardiology at the University of Washington. He is married, has three children, and actively trains as a Fourth Degree Black Belt in Taekwondo.


    00:00 - The last century of nutrition science

    07:03 - The single-nutrient mistake

    10:50 - Pellagra & the birth of enriched flour

    13:45 - Macros vs. food quality

    17:05 - The 3 buckets of food

    21:56 - What’s the deal with red meat

    24:46 - Episode break

    27:14 - Cholesterol absorbers & plant sterols

    31:05 - How low-fat & Big Tobacco fueled ultra-processing

    33:24 - The truth about seed oils

    38:06 - Sweeteners & additives

    41:41 - Flipping the script on the food system

    47:28 - The problem with calorie counting

    52:16 - Inside a cardiologist's shopping cart


    Referenced in the episode:

    Buy Mozaffarian’s book here: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1250394287

    Visit the Food Is Medicine Institute website: https://tuftsfoodismedicine.org/


    We hope you enjoy this episode, and feel free to watch the full video on YouTube! Whether it's an article or podcast, we want to know what we can do to help here at mindbodygreen. Let us know at: podcast@mindbodygreen.com.

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    669: The latest on how to prevent Alzheimer’s | Kellyann Niotis, M.D. Oct 11, 2026
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    "What we know for sure is that Alzheimer's is a preventable disease. It's not destiny,” says Kellyann Niotis, M.D.

    Niotis is the world’s first fellowship-trained preventive neurologist. She is a Clinical Assistant Professor of Neurology at Weill Cornell Medicine, the Director of Parkinson’s and Lewy Body Dementia Prevention Research at the Institute for Neurodegenerative Diseases (IND) and runs a private preventive neurology practice in New York City focused on early detection and personalized risk reduction strategies for diseases like Alzheimer’s, Parkinson’s and Dementia with Lewy Bodies. Her research has been published in notable medical journals and presented at national and international conferences. Her expertise has been featured in media outlets such as CNN and NBC, and she has received numerous honors and awards recognizing her work. She is passionate about advancing the field of preventive neurology—not only through clinical care and research but also through advocacy for policy change and expanding access to education and treatment.


    00:00 - Your genes are not your destiny

    05:06 - Why prevention starts in your 30s

    06:44 - Cholesterol management for brain health

    11:06 - Explaining amyloid & p-tau 217

    17:17 - How viruses & your cycle affect tau

    19:37 - Dr. Niotis’s research

    23:41 - What movement reveals about your brain

    30:37 - Why motor reserve matters

    34:47 - Why variety is key when exercising for brain health

    37:38 - Elen’s story with two APOE4 copies

    44:37 - ApoA1: the brain's cholesterol exception

    47:42 - The future of Alzheimer's treatment

    50:43 - The statin study she'd love to run


    Referenced in the episode:

    Visit Niotis’s website: http://www.drkellyannniotis.com/

    Visit Niotis’s practice: http://www.preventive-neuro.com/

    For more about Beth Lewis: https://www.instagram.com/bethlewisfit/

    Listen to our episode with Richard Isaacson: https://open.spotify.com/episode/4uW7V9qfeD2vj2m56MZlYB


    We hope you enjoy this episode, and feel free to watch the full video on YouTube! Whether it's an article or podcast, we want to know what we can do to help here at mindbodygreen. Let us know at: podcast@mindbodygreen.com.

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    Why 70% of American kids quit sports by age 13 Oct 04, 2026
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    Youth sports has become a multi-billion-dollar industry built on one unspoken promise: specialize early, and your kid has a shot. In this solo episode, we dig into what the research really says about early specialization. We also looks at how Norway built a youth sports system around play instead of competition, and why it's keeping kids in the game at nearly triple the US rate.


    00:00 - The myth of sports specialization

    04:29 - How youth sports became a billion-dollar industry

    05:10 - My own path to Division I basketball

    06:52 - Higher risk of overuse injuries

    09:42 - The weaker case for burnout

    10:41 - Junior stars & adult pro athletes are different people

    12:28 - Deliberate play & the sampling years

    15:00 - 3 honest caveats

    16:10 - How Norway keeps kids playing

    20:29 - What every parent should actually do


    Referenced in the episode:

    2022 meta-analysis from Jean Côté’, Ph.D.: https://doi.org/10.1177/19417381211056301

    2015 study from Neeru Jayanthi, M.D.: .https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25646361/

    Research from David Bell, Ph.D.: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31633411/

    Research from Tim McGuine, Ph.D: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28735552/


    We hope you enjoy this episode, and feel free to watch the full video on YouTube! Whether it's an article or podcast, we want to know what we can do to help here at mindbodygreen. Let us know at: podcast@mindbodygreen.com.

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    668: What 200K full-body scans reveal about how we age | Andrew Lacy, Founder & CEO at Prenuvo Sep 28, 2026
    Show notes

    "I hope in 20 or 30 years time, a clinical diagnosis is something that's rarely given because most everything has been caught before it rises to that stage,” says Andrew Lacy.

    Lacy is the CEO and founder of Prenuvo, the company pioneering proactive whole-body imaging for the early detection of cancer and other diseases. Under Lacy’s leadership, the company has expanded across North America, establishing Prenuvo as a recognized and trusted proactive healthcare service to both patients and referring clinicians. A seasoned entrepreneur, he scaled transformative products (including Tapulous, acquired by Disney) and grew Prenuvo into a global leader. He actively serves as an advisor and investor across a diverse portfolio of startups. He received an MBA from Stanford University and a JD from the University of Melbourne. He is currently based in Los Angeles.

    This podcast was created in partnership with Prenuvo. Their whole-body MRI scans 33 organs for hundreds of conditions in as little as an hour, finding a potentially life-saving diagnosis in 1 in 20 people.* Prenuvo can help give you a broader understanding of what’s happening in your body–before symptoms appear. Get a $300 discount on comprehensive and executive memberships, along with a standalone whole-body scan at prenuvo.com/MINDBODYGREEN.


    00:00 - What's changed in the last two years of scanning

    03:58 - The importance of establishing a baseline

    06:15 - The average scan turns up nine findings

    07:55 - Ageotypes: why everyone ages differently

    09:19 - Inside the new body composition report

    11:47 - 4 ways AI is changing medical imaging

    15:44 - NeuroQuant & catching dementia decades early

    18:07 - Building a comprehensive, preventative healthcare system

    24:10 - Busy Philipps’s story & what people actually fear

    25:17 - The case for peace of mind over avoidance

    30:46 - Skin health as the next imaging frontier

    37:27 - Why people worry most about the brain

    39:21 - Changing the approach to healthcare


    Referenced in the episode:

    Read about Jason’s experience first Prenuvo scan here: https://www.mindbodygreen.com/articles/full-body-mri-scan-review


    We hope you enjoy this episode, and feel free to watch the full video on YouTube! Whether it's an article or podcast, we want to know what we can do to help here at mindbodygreen. Let us know at: podcast@mindbodygreen.com.


    *Based on our internal data analysis, 5% of Prenuvo scans have helped detect a potentially life-saving condition. This reflects in particular the combined prevalence of radiologically-suspected pre-cancerous/cancerous-findings or brain-aneurysms in our whole body MRI screening practice.

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    667: Why this doctor stopped fearing sugar, ice cream, & alcohol | Keshav Grover, D.O, M.S. Sep 20, 2026
    Show notes

    "What is the lowest dose of intervention that can have the maximum effect to help the body heal itself?” asked Keshav Grover, D.O., M.S., IFMCP.


    Grover is the founder of Grover Health and Wellness, PLLC. He is a physician, keynote speaker, and champion of functional/integrative medicine and of eating a whole foods, plant-based diet. He holds a Doctorate in osteopathic medicine from Michigan State University College and a Master of Science from Wayne State University School of Medicine. He completed the prestigious Andrew Weil Center of Integrative Medicine fellowship at the University of Arizona and is a certified functional medicine practitioner by the Institute for Functional Medicine. He has spoken to leading organizations about holistic health and has been featured on CBS and Fox News as a wellness expert. His first book, Wellness Bridge, was published this August.


    00:00 - The "Wellness Bridge"

    05:37 - Why medicine doesn't have to be either/or

    08:55 - A simple at-home gut health check

    11:21 - There’s no universal cure

    13:37 - Peptides 101

    19:30 - Who should avoid peptides entirely

    22:21 - Smallest dose, maximum effect

    24:27 - Grover’s approach to testing

    30:29 - Where health testing is headed next

    33:38 - The connection between glyphosate & cancer

    40:38 - His brother's warts & a homeopathy win

    44:37 - Why he stopped being the ingredient police

    47:31 - Gut health & food sensitivity

    49:55 - Why genetics isn't your destiny


    Referenced in the episode:

    For more about Grover, visit: https://www.drkeshavgrover.com/

    Buy Grover’s book: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0GZMP5BQX/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_il_tl?tag=mind0a3-20


    We hope you enjoy this episode, and feel free to watch the full video on YouTube! Whether it's an article or podcast, we want to know what we can do to help here at mindbodygreen. Let us know at: podcast@mindbodygreen.com.

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    666: Is wellness culture making us less healthy? | Ezekiel J. Emanuel, MD, PhD, MsC Sep 13, 2026
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    “I don't need to track it. I just listen to my body,” says Ezekiel J. Emanuel, M.D., Ph.D., Ms.C.


    Dr. Emanuel is an oncologist and world leader in health policy and bioethics. He is the Vice Provost for Global Initiatives at the University of Pennsylvania, and holds appointments in the Department of Medical Ethics and Health Policy in the Perelman School of Medicine and the Department of Health Care Management in the Wharton School. He is Special Advisor to the Director General of the WHO, Senior Fellow at the Center for American Progress, and a member of the Council on Foreign Relations. He was founding chair of the Department of Bioethics at the NIH. He served as a Special Advisor on Health Policy to the Director of the Office of Management and Budget and National Economic Council. In this role, he was instrumental in drafting the Affordable Care Act. He served on the Biden-Harris Transition Covid Advisory Board. Dr. Emanuel is the most widely cited bioethicist in history with over 350 publications. He has authored or edited 16 books. His newest book, Eat Your Ice Cream, is out now.


    00:00 - When tracking our health goes overboard

    06:19 - The health markers worth testing

    08:03 - Daily nutrition habits

    09:34 - What it means to “eat your ice cream”

    14:15 - The importance of social connection

    19:12 - Why willpower fails & habits win

    24:47 - Everest, introverts, & grip strength

    27:52 - How purpose is linked to health

    31:06 - Why & how the Emanuel brothers succeeded

    35:21 - Rethinking retirement for brain health

    36:42 - Age-old health wins (& that’s a relief)

    40:10 - Favorite ice cream shops


    Referenced in the episode:

    For more about Emanuel, visit his website: https://www.ezekielemanuel.com/

    Buy Eat Your Ice Cream here: https://www.amazon.com/Eat-Your-Ice-Cream-Healthy/dp/1324117532/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_il_tl?tag=mind0a3-20

    Find our episode on the rabbit cholesterol here: https://youtu.be/er3k40nlCh8?si=MxeG7IxEVnirxIoX


    We hope you enjoy this episode, and feel free to watch the full video on YouTube! Whether it's an article or podcast, we want to know what we can do to help here at mindbodygreen. Let us know at: podcast@mindbodygreen.com.

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    660: Why adding more to your diet beats eliminating | Wendy Bazilian, DrPH, MA, RDN Sep 08, 2026
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    "The diet you'll stay on is a diet that's enjoyable and not too hard,” says Wendy Bazilian, DrPH, MA, RDN.


    Bazilian is a Registered Dietitian Nutritionist, American College of Sports Medicine Certified Exercise Physiologist, and Doctor of Public Health. She's authored multiple bestselling books, as well as contributed to a New York Times bestseller and a James Beard-nominated cookbook. She’s a spokesperson for Avocados – Love One Today and a frequent nutrition expert cited in mindbodygreen articles.


    00:00 - The value of the food we consume

    03:06 - Why dietary fat was misunderstood for decades

    07:47 - Nutrient density vs. calorie counting

    09:56 - Why 94% of us fall short on fiber

    14:26 - Heart health, satiety, & blood sugar control

    16:48 - Why the best diet is one you enjoy

    18:50 - Food synergy & nutrient absorption

    21:51 - Unexpected ways to cook with avocados

    26:58 - The glycemic load effect

    31:28 - Serving size vs. portion size

    35:41 - How to store avocados properly

    40:06 - 3 rules for moving the needle on health


    Referenced in the episode:

    The HAT trial: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34496276/

    Glycemic load study: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2475299126000557

    For more about Bazilian, visit her website: https://www.wendybazilian.com/


    We hope you enjoy this episode, and feel free to watch the full video on YouTube! Whether it's an article or podcast, we want to know what we can do to help here at mindbodygreen. Let us know at: podcast@mindbodygreen.com.

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    Status, Sex, & Sports Cars: What Science Says Sep 06, 2026
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    What does driving a sports car actually do to your hormones? In this episode, we break down a surprisingly revealing 2009 study in which researchers had men drive a bright red sports car and a beige sedan and measured changes in their testosterone before and after.

    The results weren't what anyone expected. And the real finding had nothing to do with speed, horsepower, or even the car itself.

    We dig into the evolutionary biology behind status signaling, why social context drives hormonal responses, and what this study quietly reveals about how we chase external validation in modern life.

    Ever seen someone rev a Ferrari at a stoplight and thought "midlife crisis"? This one's for you.


    00:00 - Introduction

    00:53 - The Experiment

    01:44 - The Results (And Why They're Surprising)

    02:41 - The Evolutionary Biology Behind Status Signaling

    03:34 - Why the Audience Mattered More Than the Car

    04:26 - What "Borrowed Status" Costs Us

    05:33 - What Actually Sustains Us Long-Term


    Read the study here: ⁠https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0749597809000442⁠


    We hope you enjoy this episode, and feel free to watch the full video on ⁠YouTube⁠! Whether it's an article or podcast, we want to know what we can do to help here at mindbodygreen. Let us know at: ⁠podcast@mindbodygreen.com⁠.

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    665: Is Zone 2 training a waste of your workout time? | Kristi Storoschuk, exercise scientist Aug 30, 2026
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    “As your time commitment goes down, the importance of intensity goes up,” says Kristi Storoshuk.


    Storoschuk is a PhD candidate in Muscle Physiology at Queen’s University in Kingston, Ontario. Her research focuses on the relationship between skeletal muscle metabolism and whole-body metabolism, with an emphasis on how nutrient–exercise timing influences physiological adaptations to exercise. Storoschuk has contributed to peer-reviewed publications and is passionate about translating complex scientific findings into practical, evidence-based recommendations. Outside of her academic work, Kristi is the founder of a women’s health coaching program focused on improving metabolic health through sustainable nutrition and exercise, particularly in the context of preconception health.


    00:00 - What is Zone 2 training?

    08:14 - The limitations of Zone 2 training

    11:18 - Prioritizing intensity when time is limited

    15:56 - All about interval training

    19:16 - The truth about building your aerobic base

    21:02 - We shouldn’t train cardio like elite athletes

    24:48 - Fat burning & Zone 2

    26:10 - Talking weekly cardio protocol

    30:03 - Storoschuk’s habits

    33:03 - Unpacking exercise culture & trends

    37:22 - Recovery, wearables, & intuition

    43:10 - HIIT above all else


    Referenced in the episode:

    Read Storoschuk’s research about Zone 2: https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s40279-025-02261-y

    For more about Storoschuk, visit her website: https://krististoroschuk.com/


    We hope you enjoy this episode, and feel free to watch the full video on YouTube! Whether it's an article or podcast, we want to know what we can do to help here at mindbodygreen. Let us know at: podcast@mindbodygreen.com.

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    664: High-achiever? Here’s how to prevent burnout | science writer Elizabeth Svoboda Aug 23, 2026
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    "It's way better to pull yourself back from the brink of burnout before it hits than to let yourself fall all the way in,” says Elizabeth Svoboda.

    Svoboda is an award-winning science writer and contributor to Scientific American, Discover, The Boston Globe, The New York Times, and other publications. Elizabeth is a winner of the Evert Clark/Seth Payne Award for Young Science Writers, and her work has been anthologized in the Best American Science and Nature Writing series. She lives in San Jose, California, with her husband and young sons. Her new book,The Art of Pacing, is available now.


    00:00 - Why high performers always push to 110%

    05:58 - Physical signs of burnout

    09:14 - Getting more comfortable with recovery

    12:16 - Pacing & how to take advantage of energy rhythms

    16:00 - What an Olympic runner taught her about rest

    18:32 - Modulation & the importance of breathwork

    28:30 - Why it’s so hard recover from burnout

    31:48 - Boom-bust cycles

    35:12 - Gold star culture & unsustainable achievement

    40:34 - Why early sports specialization backfires

    44:08 - How to pace yourself with rigid flexibility

    50:32 - The next wise choice


    Referenced in the episode:

    For more about Elizabeth Svoboda, visit her website: https://elizabethsvoboda.com/

    Buy The Art Of Pacing here: https://www.amazon.com/Art-Pacing-Balancing-Short-Term-Long-Term/dp/1668022419/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_il_tl?tag=mind0a3-20

    Find the Maslach Burnout Inventory here: https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5fecb650c2646617cb1e0599/t/6320f5325f757e4ad8bc0062/1663104306195/Maslach-Burnout-Inventory.pdf

    For more about Joe Arpaia: https://www.centerfortransformativehealing.org/joseph

    Follow runner Ajeé Wilson: https://www.instagram.com/ajeelenee/?hl=en


    We hope you enjoy this episode, and feel free to watch the full video on YouTube! Whether it's an article or podcast, we want to know what we can do to help here at mindbodygreen. Let us know at: podcast@mindbodygreen.com.

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