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    Zero Knowledge

    Zero Knowledge is a podcast which goes deep into the tech that will power the emerging decentralised web and the community building this. Covering the latest in zero knowledge research and applications, the open web as well as future technologies and paradigms that promise to change the way we interact — and transact — with one another online.
    Zero Knowledge is hosted by Anna Rose
    Follow the show at @ZeroKnowledgefm (https://twitter.com/zeroknowledgefm) or @AnnaRRose (https://twitter.com/AnnaRRose)
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    Succinct Proofs and Linear Algebra with Guillermo and Alex Oct 11, 2023
    Show notes

    In this week’s episode, host Anna Rose and co-host Kobi Gurkan chat with Alex Evans and Guillermo Angeris about their new research paper on Succinct Proofs in Linear Algebra. The paper introduces a framework that simplifies the construction of succinct proofs and offers a toolkit of useful techniques. Their conversation also covers the use of randomized reductions in zero-knowledge proofs, the security of the FRI protocol, and the potential applications of the framework in other systems.

    Here’s some additional links for this episode:

    *Papers

    • Succinct Proofs in Linear Algebra by Evans and Angeris
    • Algebraic Reductions of Knowledge by Kothapalli and Parno
    • Proximity Testing with Logarithmic Randomness by Diamond and Posen
    • Ligero: Lightweight Sublinear Arguments Without a Trusted Setup by Ames, Hazay, Ishai and Venkitasubramaniam
    • Sumcheck Arguments and their Applications by Bootle, Chiesa and Sotiraki
    • Proofs, Arguments, and Zero-Knowledge by Thaler
    • Stephen Boyd Papers

    *Other links

    • Episode 140: Staking derivatives & DeFi with Alex Evans (and Tarun!)
    • Episode 206: Distilling DeFi Primitives with Guillermo, Alex and Tarun
    • Episode 271: Between Two ZK Events with Nico and Guillermo
    • Episode 282: Error Correcting Codes & Information Theory with Ron Rothblum
    • Episode 293: Exploring Security of ZK Systems with Nethermind’s Michał & Albert
    • ZK Hack Discord
    • ZK Whiteboard Sessions


    Applications are now open to attend zkHack Istanbul - Nov 10-12! Apply here: https://www.zkistanbul.com/


    Aleo is a new Layer-1 blockchain that achieves the programmability of Ethereum, the privacy of Zcash, and the scalability of a rollup.


    As Aleo is gearing up for their mainnet launch in Q4, this is an invitation to be part of a transformational ZK journey.


    Dive deeper and discover more about Aleo at aleo.org


    If you like what we do:

    • Find all our links here! @ZeroKnowledge | Linktree
    • Subscribe to our podcast newsletter
    • Follow us on Twitter @zeroknowledgefm
    • Join us on Telegram
    • Catch us on YouTube

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    Exploring Security of ZK Systems with Nethermind’s Michał & Albert Oct 04, 2023
    Show notes

    On this week’s episode, Anna Rose interviews Michał Zając and Albert Garreta from the Nethermind team. They discuss the origin story of Nethermind and its role in the ecosystem today. They also delve into the cryptography research being done at Nethermind, including their work on proving the security of FRI-based protocols, identifying security issues with Fiat-Shamir, exploring topics like ZK malleability and aggregation, and building SNARKs over rings.

    Here’s some additional links for this episode:

    • Fiat-Shamir Security of FRI and Related SNARKs by Block, Garreta, Katz, Thaler, Tiwari and Zając
    • On Soundness Notions for Interactive Oracle Proofs by Block, Garreta, Tiwari and Zając
    • NIZKs with an Untrusted CRS: Security in the Face of Parameter Subversion by Bellare, Fuchsbauer and Scafuro
    • Mathematical Problems By Professor David Hilbert
    • A summary on the FRI low degree test by Ulrich Haböck
    • DEEP-FRI: Sampling Outside the Box Improves Soundness by Ben-Sasson, Goldberg, Kopparty, and Saraf
    • Fiat-Shamir Transformation of Multi-Round Interactive Proofs by Attema, Fehr and Klooss

    Other Nethermind Projects;

    • Lido: A proposal for partnering with Nethermind to design a mechanism for a good validator set maintenance. Phase II.
    • Looking Forward: Obol V2

    Applications are now open to attend zkHack Istanbul - Nov 10-12! Apply here: https://www.zkistanbul.com/


    /////Polygon CDK is the go-to open source chain development kit for building and launching your own ZK-powered Ethereum L2.


    Using Polygon CDK, build chains precisely to your specs, from level of decentralization to throughput to cost. It’s the raw material of Polygon 2.0, an ecosystem of interconnected chains that create a value layer for the internet.


    Check out wiki.polygon.technology/docs/cdk to start experimenting with your own ZK powered L2 today.


    If you like what we do:

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    State of ZK – Live at zkSummit10! Sep 27, 2023
    Show notes

    In this special live episode, recorded at zkSummit10, host Anna Rose chats with regular co-hosts Tarun Chitra, Guillermo Angeris and Nico Mohnblatt about the state of ZK today.

    They cover how the term ‘ZK’ has evolved, market trends that are relevant to the ZK community today and ZK ‘crossovers’ like ZKML or ZKFHE and their current status in the industry. They also discuss how the ZK space could grow in the future and share their predictions. Much of the conversation is fuelled by some great questions and comments from the live zk10 audience.

    This is the first episode recorded live from a ZK Podcast event, so if you have any feedback, pls tweet us @zeroknowledgefm!


    Here’s some additional links for this episode:

    • Episode 90: MPC systems with Nigel Smart
    • Episode 173: Building Private AMMs with Guillermo Angeris (Guillermo’s first episode!)
    • Episode 269: Auctions with Kshitij Kulkarni, Matheus V. X. Ferreira and Tarun
    • Episode 270: FHE and ZKPs with Sunscreen’s Ravital Solomon
    • 17 misconceptions about SNARKs (and why they hold us back) by Justin Thaler

    Applications are now open to attend zkHack Istanbul - Nov 10-12! Apply here: https://www.zkistanbul.com/


    Aleo is a new Layer-1 blockchain that achieves the programmability of Ethereum, the privacy of Zcash, and the scalability of a rollup.


    As Aleo is gearing up for their mainnet launch in Q4, this is an invitation to be part of a transformational ZK journey.


    Dive deeper and discover more about Aleo at aleo.org


    If you like what we do:

    • Find all our links here! @ZeroKnowledge | Linktree
    • Subscribe to our podcast newsletter
    • Follow us on Twitter @zeroknowledgefm
    • Join us on Telegram
    • Catch us on YouTube

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    MEV, Mechanism Design & the Censorship Problem with Mallesh M Pai Sep 06, 2023
    Show notes

    On this week’s episode, Anna Rose and Tarun Chitra chat with Mallesh Pai, Associate Professor of Economics at Rice University. They explore mechanism design in an economic context and Mallesh’s work around MEV topics - specifically on censorship in an MEV context and within his Special Mechanism Group.

    The discussion takes the team back into the topic of MEV, revisiting the proposer builder separation concept and the impact that this may have on the efficiency and censorship resistance of these systems.

    Here’s some additional links for this episode:

    • Episode 183: CowSwap & DAO Tech with Gnosis’s Martin Köppelmann
    • Episode 216: A Dip into the Mempool & MEV with Project Blanc
    • Episode 243: Dive Back into MEV with Alex Stokes and Chris Hager
    • Episode 249: Impact of Tornado Cash: a Builders Perspective
    • Episode 269: Auctions with Kshitij Kulkarni, Matheus V. X. Ferreira and Tarun
    • Vitalik’s Blog Post
    • Special Mechanism Group’s Thread on Censoring Eth
    • Block relating to Thread
    • Special Mechanism Group’s Research Papers (with explainers)

    zkSummit 10 is happening in London on September 20, 2023! Apply to attend now -> zkSummit 10 Application Form.


    Bonsai, RISC Zero’s most anticipated product, allows developers to prove huge programs off-chain, roll them into one succinct proof, and verify anywhere with low amounts of gas.


    Visit https://r0.link/ZKpodcast to learn more and sign up today for the Bonsai waitlist.


    Anoma’s first fractal instance, Namada, is launching soon!


    The MASP circuit's latest update enables shielded set rewards directly in the shielded set, a novel feature that funds privacy as a public good.


    Follow Namada on twitter @namada for more information and join the community on Discord discord.gg/namada.


    If you like what we do:

    • Find all our links here! @ZeroKnowledge | Linktree
    • Subscribe to our podcast newsletter
    • Follow us on Twitter @zeroknowledgefm
    • Join us on Telegram
    • Catch us on YouTube

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    Exploring, Teaching and Auditing ZK with David Wong Aug 30, 2023
    Show notes

    This week, Anna and Guillermo chat with David Wong, author of the Real-World Cryptography book, and a cofounder zksecurity.xyz - an auditing firm focused on Zero Knowledge technology. They chat about what first got him interested in cryptography, his early work as a security consultant, his work on the Facebook crypto project and the Mina project, zksecurity.xyz, auditing techniques and their efficacy in a ZK context, what common bugs are found in ZK code, and much more. Here’s some additional links for this episode:

    • Crypto is not cryptocurrency
    • NCC Group
    • OCaml website
    • Real-World Cryptography book
    • Mina Protocol
    • 3pages.fr
    • The Frozen Heart vulnerability in PlonK | Trail of Bits Blog
    • ZK Podcast Episode 284: Using Formal Verification on ZK Systems with Jon Stephens
    • zkSecurity Website
    • ZK Podcast Episode 257: Proof of Solvency with Kostas Chalkias - ZK Podcast
    • ZK Podcast Episode 210: The Road to STARKs and Miden with Bobbin Threadbare - ZK Podcast
    • ZK Podcast Episode 76: Sean Bowe on SNARKs, Trusted Setups & Elliptic Curve Cryptography - ZK Podcast

    Check out the ZK Jobs Board for new job opportunities in the run up to the zkSummit 10! Aleo is a new Layer-1 blockchain that achieves the programmability of Ethereum, the privacy of Zcash, and the scalability of a rollup. For questions, join their Discord at aleo.org/discord. If you like what we do:
    • Find all our links here! @ZeroKnowledge | Linktree
    • Subscribe to our podcast newsletter
    • Follow us on Twitter @zeroknowledgefm
    • Join us on Telegram
    • Catch us on YouTube

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    Penumbra Catch Up with Finch, Erwan and Jen Aug 23, 2023
    Show notes

    This week, host Anna Rose chats with Finch, Erwan and Jen from the Penumbra team. They share an update about Penumbra and discuss how this zk-powered project works under the hood. Specifically, how Penumbra harnesses ZK to offer new paradigms for staking, voting and trading.

    Here’s some additional links for this episode:

    • Episode 247: Exploring Penumbra with Henry de Valence
    • Penumbra Storage
    • Penumbra GitHub
    • ZK8: How to build a private DEX - Henry de Valence - Penumbra
    • ZK8: Tiered Merkle Topiary in Rust – finch – Penumbra Labs
    • Plaidfinch (Penumbra) - Interchain Private Trading with Penumbra
    • Privacy in Cosmos Live: Finch (Penumbra)- Full-Stack Private Protocol Design
    • A pure-Rust implementation of group operations on Ristretto and Curve25519
    • curve25519-dalek Github
    • Replicating Market Makers by Angeris, Evans, Chitra
    • SecureDrop

    Further reading;

    • Penumbra’s DEX Arrives From The Future
    • How to See in the Dark: Navigating Penumbra
    • Private Governance on Penumbra
    • Bringing Zero-Knowledge Proofs to Penumbra
    • Introducing Poseidon377, our instantiation of a SNARK-friendly hash
    • Testnet #4: Shielded Staking Is Here

    zkSummit 10 is happening in London on September 20, 2023! Apply to attend now -> zkSummit 10 Application Form


    Check out the ZK Jobs Board


    Anoma’s first fractal instance, Namada, is launching soon!


    The MASP circuit's latest update enables shielded set rewards directly in the shielded set, a novel feature that funds privacy as a public good.


    Follow Namada on twitter @namada for more information and join the community on Discord discord.gg/namada.


    If you like what we do:

    • Find all our links here! @ZeroKnowledge | Linktree
    • Subscribe to our podcast newsletter
    • Follow us on Twitter @zeroknowledgefm
    • Join us on Telegram
    • Catch us on YouTube

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    Quantum Cryptography with Or Sattath Aug 16, 2023
    Show notes

    In this week’s episode, Anna Rose and Kobi Gurkan chat with Or Sattath, Assistant Professor at the Ben-Gurion University in the Computer Science department. They deep dive into Or’s work on Quantum Cryptography. They begin with definitions of Quantum Computing and Quantum Cryptography, covering what these will mean for existing cryptography. They also explore how new discoveries in this field can interact with existing Proof-of-work systems and how Quantum computers could affect the game theory of mining in the future.

    Here’s some additional links for this episode:

    • On the insecurity of quantum Bitcoin mining by Sattath
    • Strategies for quantum races by Lee, Ray, and Santha
    • Polynomial-Time Algorithms for Prime Factorization and Discrete Logarithms on a Quantum Computer by Shor
    • Shor’s Algorithm
    • Grover’s Algorithm
    • A fast quantum mechanical algorithm for database search by Grover
    • Bell’s Theorem

    More in-depth resources recommended by Or Sattath:

    • A recommended smbc-comics about the power of quantum computing, authored by Zack Weinersmith (the usual cartoonist) and Scott Aaronson (a quantum computing expert)
    • For an in-depth introduction to quantum computing, I recommend Ronald de-Wolf's lecture notes
    • The Bitcoin backbone protocol with a single quantum miner, by Cojocaru et al
    • The fingerprint of quantum mining slightly below 16 minutes by Nerem-Gaur
    • Some estimates regarding timelines, which we didn't discuss, are available here and here
    • The insecurity of quantum Bitcoin mining, and the need to change the tie-breaking rule.
    • The work by Lee-Ray-Santh that analyzes the equilibrium strategy for multiple quantum miners, as a simplified one-shot game.

    zkSummit 10 is happening in London on September 20, 2023! Apply to attend now -> zkSummit 10 Application Form.

    Polygon Labs is thrilled to announce Polygon 2.0: The Value Layer for the Internet.


    Polygon 2.0 and all of our ZK tech is open-source and community-driven. Reach out to the Polygon community on Discord to learn more, contribute, or join in and build the future of Web3 together with Polygon!


    If you like what we do:

    • Find all our links here! @ZeroKnowledge | Linktree
    • Subscribe to our podcast newsletter
    • Follow us on Twitter @zeroknowledgefm
    • Join us on Telegram
    • Catch us on YouTube

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    Gnosis catch-up with Stefan George Aug 02, 2023
    Show notes

    This week, Anna Rose chats with Stefan George from Gnosis. They start with an update on the projects that have spun out of Gnosis - Safe, Zodiac, CoW Swap - as well as older experiments that the team had incubated. They then cover the evolution of Gnosis Chain from its origin as xDai, discuss the new aggregate bridge architecture Hashi and explore Gnosis Pay - an on-chain p2p payments product that fulfills some of the original motivations of Bitcoin. They discuss a range of relevant topics such as intents, prediction markets, account abstraction, ZK Bridges, decentralization and more.

    Here’s some additional links for this episode:

    Previous Podcast Eps

    • Episode 65: Bridges, xDai and Burner Wallets with Igor & Austin
    • Episode 183: CowSwap & DAO Tech with Gnosis’s Martin Köppelmann
    • Episode 255: Verifying Consensus On-Chain with Succinct
    • Episode 285: Intents with Chris Goes from Anoma

    Papers

    • Why sharding is great: demystifying the technical properties
    • Bitcoin: A Peer-to-Peer Electronic Cash System by Satoshi Nakamoto

    Websites

    • Gnosis Pay Website
    • DXdao Website
    • xDai Website
    • EigenLayer Website

    zkSummit 10 is happening in London on September 20, 2023! Apply to attend now -> zkSummit 10 Application Form.


    Polygon Labs is thrilled to announce Polygon 2.0: The Value Layer for the Internet.


    Polygon 2.0 and all of our ZK tech is open-source and community-driven. Reach out to the Polygon community on Discord to learn more, contribute, or join in and build the future of Web3 together with Polygon!


    Bonsai, RISC Zero’s most anticipated product, allows developers to prove huge programs off-chain, roll them into one succinct proof, and verify anywhere with low amounts of gas.


    Visit https://r0.link/ZKpodcast to learn more and sign up today for the Bonsai waitlist.


    If you like what we do:

    • Find all our links here! @ZeroKnowledge | Linktree
    • Subscribe to our podcast newsletter
    • Follow us on Twitter @zeroknowledgefm
    • Join us on Telegram
    • Catch us on YouTube

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    Paris 2023 Recap with Uma, Zaki and Tarun Jul 26, 2023
    Show notes

    This week, host Anna Rose and guests Uma Roy, Zaki Manian and Tarun Chitra recap all things EthCC Paris. This impromptu chat takes a look back at the topics, talks, parties and goings-on of the Paris week and what really caught their attention. Expect some spicy takes, offtopic rambles, inside scoops and more.

    Here’s some additional links for this episode:

    EthCC Links

    • EthCC Website
    • EthCC Side Events
    • EthCC Mary Maller - How can we use Zero-Knowledge Proofs in Ethereum?
    • EthCC Vitalik Buterin - a history of account abstraction
    • EthCC6 After Movie
    • EthCC6 Main Playlist

    Modular Summit Talks

    • Modular Summit
    • Modular Summit Day 1 - Fourier Stage
    • Modular Summit Day 2 - Fourier Stage
    • Modular Summit Day 1 - Galois Stage
    • Modular Summit Day 2 - Galois Stage

    Other Talks and Links

    • Episode 285: Intents with Chris Goes from Anoma
    • Gnosis Pay
    • DeFi Security Summit
    • ZK Paris ZK Validator <> Geometry Tweet
    • Research Day 2023 Playlist
    • Intent-Based Architectures and Their Risks by Georgios Konstantopoulos
    • Ethereum DeFi Protocol Beanstalk Hacked for $182 Million—What You Need to Know
    • Another $103M Disappears From Multichain in Potential ‘Rug Pull’

    zkSummit 10 is happening in London on September 20, 2023! Apply to attend now -> zkSummit 10 Application Form. Speaker applications close this Friday!


    Polygon Labs is thrilled to announce Polygon 2.0: The Value Layer for the Internet.


    Polygon 2.0 and all of our ZK tech is open-source and community-driven. Reach out to the Polygon community on Discord to learn more, contribute, or join in and build the future of Web3 together with Polygon!


    Aleo is a new Layer-1 blockchain that achieves the programmability of Ethereum, the privacy of Zcash, and the scalability of a rollup.


    For questions, join their Discord at aleo.org/discord.


    If you like what we do:

    • Find all our links here! @ZeroKnowledge | Linktree
    • Subscribe to our podcast newsletter
    • Follow us on Twitter @zeroknowledgefm
    • Join us on Telegram
    • Catch us on YouTube

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    Intents with Chris Goes from Anoma Jul 19, 2023
    Show notes

    This week, host Anna Rose and co-host Tarun Chitra catch up with Chris Goes from Heliax, the team behind Anoma and Namada. They start with a quick retrospective about IBC, a project he formerly worked on, and how the protocol has evolved since it launched.

    They dive into the concept of 'intents', exploring their origin, evolution, and discuss the intent-based systems that exist today. As well, they chat about the architectures enabled by a generalized intent-based infrastructure, the potential impacts on user experience, and the inherent trade-offs, particularly when zero-knowledge or privacy aspects are added to the mix.

    Further reading for this episode:


    Papers/Docs

    • Cosmos Whitepaper
    • Anoma: Undefining Money Versatile commitments to value by Christopher Goes, Awa Sun Yin and Adrian Brink
    • Differential Privacy in Constant Function Market Makers by Tarun Chitra, Guillermo Angeris and Alex Evans
    • Wyvern Protocol Documents

    Websites

    • SUAVE and the Future Opportunities and Challenges of MEV: Part I
    • CoW Swap
    • Zcash GitHub - Nullifiers
    • Map of Zones Website

    Talks/YouTube

    • Realizing Intents with a Resource Model - Christopher Goes at Research Day
    • The Edge of MEV Switching Costs and the Slow Game - Christopher Goes at Research Day
    • ZK8: Namada: asset-agnostic interchain privacy - Chris Goes - Anoma
    • Christopher Goes - Anoma: an intent-centric
    • Are Intents, SUAVE, Account Abstraction, & Cross-Chain Bridging all the same thing? - Uma Roy at Research Day

    Podcast Eps

    • Episode 115: Cosmos, IBC and ZKPs with Chris Goes
    • Episode 184: Anoma’s Adrian Brink on Validity Predicates, Ferveo DKG & More
    • Episode 253: A look into Namada and Anoma with Awa Sun Yin

    zkSummit 10 is happening in London on September 20, 2023! Apply to attend now -> zkSummit 10 Application Form


    Polygon Labs is thrilled to announce Polygon 2.0: The Value Layer for the Internet.


    Polygon 2.0 and all of our ZK tech is open-source and community-driven. Reach out to the Polygon community on Discord to learn more, contribute, or join in and build the future of Web3 together with Polygon!


    Aleo is a new Layer-1 blockchain that achieves the programmability of Ethereum, the privacy of Zcash, and the scalability of a rollup.


    For questions, join their Discord at aleo.org/discord.


    If you like what we do:

    • Find all our links here! @ZeroKnowledge | Linktree
    • Subscribe to our podcast newsletter
    • Follow us on Twitter @zeroknowledgefm
    • Join us on Telegram
    • Catch us on YouTube

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