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**Zero Disturbance**

Listen to the conversations therapists and clients should be having — but often aren’t.

Zero Disturbance is a podcast about what makes therapy truly work.

For therapists, we explore clinical reasoning, case conceptualization, EMDR, and intensive therapy design — so you can think more clearly and work more efficiently.

For clients, we pull back the curtain on the therapy process — helping you understand what effective treatment looks like, what good collaboration feels like, and how to participate actively in your own healing.

Because therapy works best when both people in the room understand the map.

Inside each episode, you’ll hear:
• How strong clinical thinking shapes outcomes
• Why therapy sometimes stalls — and how to fix it
• How intensives and brain-based therapy (EMDR, Brainspotting) can accelerate progress
• What client-therapist collaboration should actually look like

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About Kambria Evans

Kambria Evans holds a Master’s in Education from Vanderbilt University and has spent over 20 years designing high-impact learning experiences for adult professionals. As former Director of Education and Quality Improvement at Stanford Medical School, she specialized in simplifying complex systems to help trainees succeed.

Today, as a therapist, EMDR Consultant, educator, and mom of twins, Kambria brings that same clarity to the therapy room — helping therapists and clients move toward resolution efficiently, effectively, and with intention.

When she’s not teaching or podcasting, you’ll find her with her twins on a California beach.

Latest Episodes:

113: 10 Truths about Divorce from an EMDR Therapist [Why Women Go To Therapy Series] Jan 28, 2026

Show notes

As we enter the start of a new year—and what many attorneys recognize as divorce consultation season—this episode speaks directly to women who are questioning whether their marriage still fits who they’ve become.

In this episode of the Zero Disturbance Podcast, EMDR therapist Kambria Evans shares 10 core truths she has observed over more than a decade of supporting women through separation, divorce, and identity reorganization. Using a nervous-system and brain-based lens, Kambria explains why outgrowing a relationship is often a sign of healing—not failure—and how chronic relational stress, shame dynamics, and emotional labor impact the body, attachment system, and sense of self.

Rather than telling women what to do, this episode offers clarity, validation, and practical frameworks to help listeners understand what their nervous system has been communicating for a long time.

What You’ll Learn in This Episode

Why outgrowing a partner is neurologically normal, especially when relationships began before full brain development
How chronic shame dynamics prevent secure attachment and keep the nervous system in survival mode
A simple three-bucket framework (supportive, neutral, sabotaging) to assess relationship impact on your nervous system
Why explanations (trauma, stress, PTSD) do not excuse adult relational behavior
How prolonged emotional regression can lead to a powerful post-divorce “slingshot” effect
Why women are often conditioned to outsource safety—and how reclaiming it changes everything
How staying in your integrity during divorce supports long-term nervous-system regulation
Why divorce doesn’t need to be perfect—just completed
A guided visualization to reconnect with your felt sense of what you want next

Brain-Based Therapy Perspective

This episode integrates principles commonly addressed in EMDR therapy and Brainspotting, including:

How unresolved shame lives in the nervous system
Why relational environments shape identity and self-concept
How clarity emerges when the body is no longer in chronic threat response
The role of felt sense, regulation, and internal safety in decision-making

Who This Episode Is For

Women contemplating divorce or already in the process
Women experiencing chronic confusion, exhaustion, or emotional shutdown in marriage
Therapists and clinicians interested in relational trauma and nervous-system outcomes
Anyone curious about divorce through a brain-based, non-shaming lens

Want to take a deeper dive? Get on the waitlist for the Brain-based Divorce Kit!

This course provides a brain-based, non-shaming approach to understanding divorce, relational change, and identity reorganization. Grounded in EMDR-informed and Brainspotting-aligned principles, it reframes outgrowing a marriage as a normal neurological response to healing rather than failure.

Designed for women contemplating divorce, already in the process, or feeling emotionally exhausted or shut down in their marriage, this course offers insight, validation, and a clear path forward through a brain-based, compassionate lens.

LINK HERE: https://www.zerodisturbance.com/brain-based-divorce-waitlist

Note: This content is for informational purposes only and is not a substitute for professional therapy. If you’re experiencing difficulties, please seek guidance from a licensed mental health provider. All stories, examples, and characters shared are fictionalized or composite representations. Any resemblance to actual persons or situations is purely coincidental and intended solely for educational illustration.

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We also offer free resources for clients and therapists! Get access to our free client resource library for the most up-to-date tools and resources for your own journey.

Therapists, access our favorite free resources for designing high-value offers in The Zero Disturbance Welcome Bundle,

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With a Masters in Education from Vanderbilt, Kambria has been creating trainings and teaching adult learners for over 20 years. As the Director of Education and Quality Improvement at Stanford Medical School, she created ease in complex systems, thereby giving medical trainees successful learning experiences. Now, as a dedicated mom, therapist, and EMDR Consultant, Kambria knows what it means to do things efficiently, effectively, and in a learner-centered way. When she isn't podcasting or creating online courses, you can find Kambria playing with her twins on a beach in California.

112: Rethinking EMDR Readiness: Beyond First and Worst [Why Women Go To Therapy Series] Jan 20, 2026

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In this episode of The Zero Disturbance Podcast, Kambria Evans continues the Why Women Go to Therapy series with a passionate, clinically grounded conversation about EMDR, readiness, and why so many people—especially women—are being incorrectly told they’re “not ready” for trauma processing.

Kambria breaks down what EMDR is, how the Adaptive Information Processing (AIP) model works, and why strict adherence to “first and worst” traumatic targets—often emphasized in early training—can become limiting for both clinicians and clients.

This episode honors the importance of EMDR basic training and standard protocol, which lays a crucial foundation for ethical, effective trauma work. At the same time, Kambria highlights how decades of clinical innovation within the EMDR framework have expanded options far beyond what was available in the 1980s—allowing therapists to work more flexibly, safely, and responsively.

Kambria challenges the idea that EMDR must be intense or retraumatizing to be effective, and makes a compelling case for a rebrand of EMDR—one that emphasizes regulation, choice, and accessibility rather than fear or overwhelm. By starting with positive targets, mid-level disturbance, and nervous system capacity, EMDR can support clarity, agency, and healing for far more people.

This episode is for women seeking clarity about their readiness for EMDR, clinicians who feel boxed in by rigid interpretations of protocol, and anyone curious about how EMDR can be used more ethically, flexibly, and effectively.

What You’ll Learn in This Episode

What EMDR really is (and what it isn’t)
Why most people are ready for EMDR when it’s applied flexibly
The difference between EMDR readiness and protocol rigidity
Why respecting standard protocol and expanding options both matter
How positive targets and low-level disturbance can be powerful entry points
Why telling someone they’re “not ready” can be retraumatizing
How EMDR supports clarity, power, and choice—not just trauma relief
What questions to ask when interviewing an EMDR therapist
Why women deserve more agency in their healing process

Who This Episode Is For

Women navigating divorce, loss, identity shifts, parenting, menopause, or societal pressure
Clinicians trained in EMDR who feel constrained by standard protocol alone
Therapists wanting to work ethically, responsibly, and flexibly within the EMDR framework
Anyone curious about trauma, neuroscience, and healing beyond pathology

Favorite Positive Targets Before Processing Negative Material

Kambria shares several preferred positive and resourcing targets that can be used before engaging negative or high-disturbance material:

Modified Resource Development Installation (RDI) – Janina Fisher (2001)
Four Blinks – Tom Zimmerman
Positive Affect Tolerance Protocol – Andrew Leeds
3 Figures – Laurel Parnell

If you’re a clinician and this episode resonates, I want you to know about a way to go deeper; The Lesson Plan is a simple, practical framework for assessing readiness and integrating EMDR without flooding clients. Learn more about The Lesson Plan and get 30% off for therapists!

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Come learn with us at Zero Disturbance:

Want to learn more about empowering yourself to experience therapy or coaching on your terms? If you appreciated this episode, you wont want to miss out on The Client Workbook + supporting videos! https://www.zerodisturbance.com/client-workbook

We also offer free resources for clients and therapists! Get access to our free client resource library for the most up-to-date tools and resources for your own journey.

Therapists, access our favorite free resources for designing high-value offers in The Zero Disturbance Welcome Bundle,

https://www.zerodisturbance.com/free-resources

111: Stuck in Time vs. Moving Forward: What EMDR Teaches Us [Why Women Go To Therapy Series] Jan 13, 2026

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In this episode of the Zero Disturbance Podcast, we explore the relationship between time, learning, and healing — and why simply waiting for time to pass doesn’t resolve trauma. Through a fictional clinical story of a woman navigating post-separation co-parenting, we unpack how people can become “stuck in time,” how EMDR helps clarify the difference between then and now, and why healing is about intentionally creating new learning and memory networks.

We also discuss symptom onset, internalized voices from early caregivers, and how EMDR (often combined with parts work) helps reduce the power of old authority figures living in our minds. This episode reframes trauma not as damage, but as learning — and highlights how expanding positive beliefs on purpose gives clients more choice, clarity, and agency in the present.

Key Takeaways:

Time alone doesn’t heal; learning determines whether we move forward
People can be “stuck in time” without realizing it’s happening
EMDR strengthens the nervous system’s distinction between then vs. now
Symptoms are communication, not pathology
Positive memory networks can be created intentionally
Internalized voices from caregivers can be neutralized, not fought
Trauma responses often contain strategies that can be repurposed

Who This Episode Is For:

Women healing from relational trauma or separation
Therapists working with complex trauma and EMDR
Clients who feel confused about why symptoms appeared “later”
Clinicians wanting a clearer framework for time + learning

Lesson Plan sale link here: https://zerodisturbance.mykajabi.com/offers/zZFZiLaL/checkout

Come learn with us at Zero Disturbance:

We also offer free resources for clients and therapists! Get access to our free client resource library for the most up-to-date tools and resources for your own journey.

Therapists, access our favorite free resources for designing high-value offers in The Zero Disturbance Welcome Bundle,

https://www.zerodisturbance.com/free-resources

110: EMDR Doesn’t Have to Be Intense: Why We’re Getting It Wrong [Why Women Go To Therapy Series] Jan 08, 2026

Show notes

Many people believe EMDR has to be intense, overwhelming, or focused on reliving trauma — but that belief is limiting access to one of the most powerful therapeutic tools we have. In this episode of the Zero Disturbance Podcast, we unpack why EMDR doesn’t have to start with the “worst memory,” how beginning with lower-intensity targets in phase 4 or even positive targets (also called resource development installation) in phase 2 can be just as effective to get started, and why framing EMDR solely as a trauma modality is scaring clients away.

This conversation reframes EMDR as a way of mapping learning, expanding positive beliefs, and restoring agency, choice, and power — especially for clients with complex or chronic trauma histories. Whether you’re a therapist, a client, or both, this episode offers a gentler, more expansive way to understand what EMDR can actually do.

Key Takeaways:

EMDR doesn’t require starting with the most intense traumatic memory
“Not being ready for EMDR” is often a clinical myth rooted in limited training
Starting with lower-disturbance or positive targets helps the nervous system generalize healing
Focusing only on traumatic content can remove client agency and increase overwhelm
EMDR is about mapping learning — not reliving trauma
Expanding positive beliefs can neutralize traumatic material without directly targeting it
Giving clients choice, power, and control is itself reparative

Lesson Plan sale link here: https://zerodisturbance.mykajabi.com/offers/zZFZiLaL/checkout

Come learn with us at Zero Disturbance:

We also offer free resources for clients and therapists! Get access to our free client resource library for the most up-to-date tools and resources for your own journey.

Therapists, access our favorite free resources for designing high-value offers in The Zero Disturbance Welcome Bundle,

https://www.zerodisturbance.com/free-resources

109: Let Him Figure It Out: The Revolutionary Relationship Shift That Makes His Choices Clear [Why Women Go To Therapy Series] Dec 10, 2025

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In this episode of the Zero Disturbance Podcast, we continue the series Why Women Go to Therapy by exploring a counterintuitive and often uncomfortable truth: women can be disrespectful to men by not allowing them to figure things out for themselves. We highlight how women, who statistically attend therapy at much higher rates and have been socially conditioned to be nurturers, often slip into mothering, over-functioning, and enabling male partners. This deprives men of the opportunity to develop the foundational belief “I can figure things out”—a belief essential for emotional maturity, accountability, and healthy relationship dynamics. Learn what really happens when women stop “figuring things out” for their partners—and why it’s one of the most empowering shifts you can make in a relationship.

We’re calling listeners to step into a new framework:
✨ I can figure things out — and he can figure things out.
From this place, women can stop managing, fixing, and rescuing, and instead shift toward clear expectations, self-responsibility, and relational self-respect. The episode encourages deeper reflection on enabling behaviors, misplaced responsibility, and the revolutionary possibility of holding men capable instead of helpless.

🎯 KEY TAKEAWAYS

Women Are Often Over-Functioning in Relationships

Because women attend therapy more frequently and are conditioned to be nurturers, they often take responsibility for emotional labor, change efforts, and “relationship management” that does not belong to them. When women step back, we reclaim our energy and clarity—honoring our boundaries and focusing on our own growth.

The Real Disrespect: Not Allowing Men to Figure Things Out

When women assume men can’t improve, regulate emotions, communicate, or take responsibility, they unintentionally infantilize them. This diminishes growth and creates inequitable relationships. When women step back, he shows who he really is—takes responsibility (or doesn’t), learns (or doesn’t), and reveals patterns. When the relationship shifts, and healthier dynamics emerge, we allow the truth about compatibility to become clear.

The Most Powerful Belief: “I Can Figure Things Out”

In EMDR and in life, this positive belief fosters internal safety, resilience, autonomy, and evolution. Equally important? Believing others — including men — can figure things out too.

Come learn with us at Zero Disturbance:

We also offer free resources for clients and therapists! Get access to our free client resource library for the most up-to-date tools and resources for your own journey.

Therapists, access our favorite free resources for designing high-value offers in The Zero Disturbance Welcome Bundle,

https://www.zerodisturbance.com/free-resources

108: The Tantrum Era: What the Male Loneliness Epidemic Reveals [Why Women Go To Therapy Series] Dec 06, 2025

Show notes

In this episode, we reframe the viral conversation about “the male loneliness epidemic,” arguing that the issue isn’t loneliness — it’s a lack of curiosity.

Men are naming their feelings more openly (which is great), but many are stopping there. Instead of asking why women are distancing themselves or leaving relationships, many men blame women, double down on old power structures, or retreat into defensiveness.

We break down why this is happening, how power dynamics influence curiosity, and why women do not need to step in and fix or teach anyone. The capacity to learn exists — but curiosity must be a chosen behavior, not outsourced emotional labor.

⭐ Key Takeaways

This isn’t a “male loneliness epidemic”; it’s a “male curiosity epidemic.”
The information men need has always been available.
Women have historically been forced to track men for safety and connection.
Men have not been required to study women in the same way.
Some men are doubling down on tantrums, power, and control instead of learning.
This is now showing natural consequences: disconnection and loneliness.
Women are not responsible for teaching grown men emotional intelligence.
Curiosity is a choice, and refusing it carries its own outcomes.
Real connection requires respect, mutual curiosity, and shared responsibility.
Without it, relationships become performative or imbalanced.

Come learn with us at Zero Disturbance:

We also offer free resources for clients and therapists! Get access to our free client resource library for the most up-to-date tools and resources for your own journey.

Therapists, access our favorite free resources for designing high-value offers in The Zero Disturbance Welcome Bundle,

https://www.zerodisturbance.com/free-resources

107: If Boyfriends Are Embarrassing, Divorce Is Self-Respect [Why Women Go To Therapy Series] Nov 07, 2025

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In this game-changing episode of The Zero Disturbance Podcast, Kambria Evans continues the "Why Women Go to Therapy" series with a profound conversation on marriage, identity, and the transformative power of EMDR therapy. Drawing from over a decade of clinical experience, she explores how so many women enter marriage carrying generational programming, internalized shame, and false beliefs about what makes them "good" or "successful."

In light of the recent Vogue article suggesting that “having a boyfriend is embarrassing now,” this episode offers a particularly timely lens for re-thinking relational norms. While the Vogue article highlights how in today’s culture many women are publicly distancing themselves from the traditional badge of “partner status”—and instead choosing identity, autonomy, and self-defined value, its time that divorce also got a rebrand.

Through the story of a fictional client, Betsy, we illustrate how therapy—especially EMDR—can bring clarity, reduce emotional disturbance, and empower women to reevaluate long-held narratives. We challenge the outdated stigma around divorce and offer a bold reframe: divorce, for many women, is not a failure—it's an act of self-respect.

Listeners will hear an honest exploration of:

- Why EMDR is so effective in helping women find clarity in relationships

- The "branding of marriage" vs. the reality behind closed doors

- Four essential belief buckets used in EMDR to assess relationship health

- How societal and family programming creates inner conflict around leaving

- Why Self-led decisions—grounded in worth, safety, and power—must guide our biggest life choices

Whether you're navigating a relationship, contemplating a major life shift, or supporting a friend through divorce, this episode offers deep insights and compassionate validation. Its important to remind us: clarity is healing, and choosing yourself is never something to be ashamed of.

Quote to Remember:

"Divorce, when chosen from a place of self-worth and clarity, is not a failure—it’s an act of self-respect."

The Zero Disturbance podcast is for educational purposes and is not a replacement for a therapeutic relationship or individualized mental health or medical care. All stories, examples, and characters shared are fictionalized or composite representations. Any resemblance to actual persons or situations is purely coincidental and intended solely for educational illustration.

Come learn with us at Zero Disturbance:

We also offer free resources for clients and therapists! Get access to our free client resource library for the most up-to-date tools and resources for your own journey.

Therapists, access our favorite free resources for designing high-value offers in The Zero Disturbance Welcome Bundle,

https://www.zerodisturbance.com/free-resources

106: Therapy Isn’t Complete Until You Build This for Lasting Change [Why Women Go To Therapy Series] Oct 25, 2025

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In this powerful episode, we explore the four distinct phases of therapy—with a spotlight on the often-overlooked 4th phase that can transform your healing journey. Drawing from EMDR, Brainspotting, and somatic therapy, this conversation breaks down what most therapeutic models miss and offers a path forward for deeper healing, integration, and self-leadership.

🧠 Four Phases of Therapy:

Phase One – The Call to Heal:

A felt sense or internal voice tells you, “Something’s not right.”
Could show up as symptoms like panic attacks, IBS, migraines, or emotional overwhelm.
Your nervous system is asking for help.

Phase Two – Naming What’s Happening:

Identifying trauma, patterns, and beliefs.
Going beyond content and symptoms to explore the underlying negative beliefs of self.
Using frameworks like the EMDR Beliefs Inventory to understand "Am I safe?", "Am I good?" etc.

Phase Three – Understanding with Clarity:

Realizing the root causes and integrating new understandings.
Acceptance that positive beliefs of self likely won’t come from parents, society, or partners.
Many end therapy here—but there’s more.

Phase Four – Building the Self-Led System:

Actively cultivating and expanding positive beliefs of self.
Working with brain-based therapies to create felt experiences of worth, safety, and power.
This is the transformational, empowering phase often skipped.

🌱 Key Takeaways:

You deserve all four phases—not just awareness and coping.
Brain-based therapies like EMDR and Brainspotting can help lock in positive beliefs at a body level.
You don’t have to stay stuck at “understanding.” You can build, reclaim, and expand into a fully actualized self.

Come learn with us at Zero Disturbance:

We also offer free resources for clients and therapists! Get access to our free client resource library for the most up-to-date tools and resources for your own journey.

Therapists, access our favorite free resources for designing high-value offers in The Zero Disturbance Welcome Bundle,

https://www.zerodisturbance.com/free-resources

105: Is It Dopamine or Just Unmet Needs? Let’s Redefine 'Addiction' [Why Women Go To Therapy Series] Oct 20, 2025

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In this episode of the Zero Disturbance Podcast and our Why Women Go to Therapy series, we bust the myth of "dopamine addiction" and dive deep into the truth about what your nervous system is really trying to do. Through powerful storytelling, neuroscience-backed insight, and trauma-informed wisdom, we reframe the language around dopamine, addiction, trauma bonding, and self-soothing. If you’ve ever wondered why you feel "addicted" to love, validation, work, or chaos—this one’s for you.

Key Takeaways:

Dopamine is not "good" or "bad" — it's a chemical signal tied to positive feeling states, not addiction.
The real issue isn't dopamine; it’s unmet needs for self-soothing and safety.
Trauma and early experiences create subconscious associations your brain tries to repeat—even decades later.
EMDR and Brainspotting can help rewire those associations with intention.
Predators (like narcissists) exploit your biology, but that doesn’t mean it’s your fault.
Society conditions women to fall for love-bombing and dysfunctional romance, and it’s time to unlearn that.
You can build a self-soothing, self-led system—on purpose.

Come learn with us at Zero Disturbance:

We also offer free resources for clients and therapists! Get access to our free client resource library for the most up-to-date tools and resources for your own journey.

Therapists, access our favorite free resources for designing high-value offers in The Zero Disturbance Welcome Bundle,

https://www.zerodisturbance.com/free-resources

104: How EMDR and Brainspotting Dismantle the Internalized Shame System [Why Women Go To Therapy Series] Oct 15, 2025

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In this transformative episode, we dive into one of the core reasons many women seek therapy: shame.

But shame isn’t just about feeling bad — it’s a manipulative system that’s often internalized from childhood, society, media, and relationships. Through personal insight and fictional client stories, Kambria walks listeners through how to identify, dismantle, and reclaim power from the shame system using somatic therapies like EMDR and Brainspotting.

This episode is both an invitation and a call to action for women to stop outsourcing their self-worth — and start building a new, Self-Led identity from the inside out.

💡 Key Takeaways:

Shame is an internal system — not a reflection of truth
You weren't born with it — it was programmed into you
We often give others (exes, bosses, society) the power to “mirror” who we are — even when they’re not safe or accurate
EMDR and Brainspotting help dismantle shame at the body level, not just cognitively
Healing isn’t about changing them — it’s about reclaiming yourself
Client stories show how freedom feels when shame stops working on you
You can receive feedback without shame when you're Self-Led

Listener Challenge:

Take a moment to notice: Where am I still using an internalized shame system that was never mine to begin with?

Then ask: What would it feel like to let that go?

Come learn with us at Zero Disturbance:

We also offer free resources for clients and therapists! Get access to our free client resource library for the most up-to-date tools and resources for your own journey.

Therapists, access our favorite free resources for designing high-value offers in The Zero Disturbance Welcome Bundle,

https://www.zerodisturbance.com/free-resources