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    Yet Another Value Podcast

    Yet Another Value Podcast is a new podcast from Andrew Walker, the founder of yetanothervalueblog.com. We interview top investors and dive deep into stocks and companies they are currently working on and investing in. While nothing on this channel is investing advice and everyone should do their own diligence, our goal is to frequently feature edgy and actionable value and/or event driven ideas.

    Please see our legal and disclaimer at: https://yetanothervalueblog.substack.com/p/legal-and-disclaimer

    Views are my own and do not represent those of my employer.

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    Copyright: © 2022 Yet Another Value Podcast

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    Jon Cukiewar lays out the goeasy thesis $GSY $EHMEF Sep 01, 2021
    Show notes

    Jon Cukiewar, Founder of Sohra Peak Capital, discusses his ivnestment thesis for goeasy (in Canada under $GSY; in U.S. under $EHMEF). Jon does a deep dive into the company's history before explaining how they can get such great returns and why he sees continued strong growth in their future.
    Jon's twitter: https://twitter.com/JonCukierwar
    Sohra Peak's website: https://www.sohrapeakcapital.com/disclaimer
    Chapters
    0:00 Intro
    1:40 goeasy overview and background
    15:00 Discussing goeasy's valuation versus U.S. peers
    18:15 How can goeasy consistently get over 20% returns on equity
    28:40 goeasy's strong capital allocation
    30:45 Why is goeasy paying a dividend?
    35:55 How do goeasy's borrowers perform when the economy takes a turn?
    38:35 Regulatory environment and concerns
    43:15 What's goeasy's advantage as they move into new lending niches?
    44:45 Revisiting valuation / how does this outperform going forward?
    55:25 Discussing the lendcare acquisition
    59;40 Jon's closing thoughts


    A $GOED investment thesis that WARRANTs a look with Thomas Braziel Aug 26, 2021
    Show notes

    Thomas Braziel, President of 507 Capital, discusses his investment in $GOED. Key topics include addressing the (many) red flags around the investment, how Thomas found the company and why he likes the set up so much, and why investing in stocks with some hair on them can deliver serious alpha.
    Thomas's twitter: https://twitter.com/ThomasBraziel
    My notes on GOED: https://twitter.com/AndrewRangeley/status/1430382893692506112?s=20
    Chapters
    0:00 Intro
    1:20 Thomas's legendary Ethenex trade
    3:10 $GOED overview
    8:00 Background to the set up / how the warrants came publicly traded
    11:00 $GOED merger / financing background
    14:00 The massive stock offering discussion
    17:00 Do you believe $GOED's claims that they have sourcing and distribution advantages?
    20:25 Why was AC the seller instead of the buyer?
    24:30 Do you worry about $GOED auditor switch / financial statements?
    27:30 Why did GOED keep recutting the deal to give AC more cash?
    31:20 GOED's rebate accounting
    34:20 Capital allocation going forward
    37:25 General discussion of why buying stocks with hair is riskier but carries huge potential rewards
    38:30 GOED management's alignment
    40:05 GOED's activist potential
    43:10 Quickly painting a reasonable bull / valuation case
    48:05 General discussion of swinging hard when you find a good pitch
    49:30 How capital light will GOED be?
    52:10 Quick Tesla discussion
    53:25 Thomas's closing thoughts (and a quick ICLTF mention!)


    Louis Camhi presents an ORIGINal investment thesis $ORGN Aug 20, 2021
    Show notes

    Louis Camhi, a private investor, discusses his thesis for Origin Materials (ORGN). Origin is a recent deSPAC that has seen a brutal sell off, but Louis thinks the company represents a hyper skewed risk reward, albeit one with a VC style downside (i.e. if it doesn't work out, they'll be worth basically nothing). Louis breaks down what Origin does, why he's so confident that they can build their plans on time and on budget, the demand he sees for their products, and a bunch of other pieces of the Origin thesis.
    Louis's twitter handle: https://twitter.com/valwithcatalyst
    Chapters
    0:00 Intro
    1:25 Origin overview
    4:05 How Origin's product is carbon negative
    6:10 Discussing Origin's SPAC sponsor credentials
    9:10 Why were these the right sponsors to take Origin public?
    11:25 Timeline for Origin to get to revenue and scale up
    14:45 Origin 1 and 2 cost and backlog strength
    18:40 Could Origin's backlog be impacted by construction delays?
    20:30 How unique is Origin's process and technology
    25:40 Discussing Origin's cost and if this can work without getting an "ESG" premium price
    27:50 Construction cost risk
    32:25 Various upside and downside risks
    35:00 Origin's financing plans
    39:40 Origin's long term margin outlook
    41:25 Why didn't the SPAC sponsors put equity into the deal?
    46:25 Comping Origin to other peak SPACmania buzzy deals
    55:00 What other deSPACs are catching Louis's eye
    58:20 Quick Katapult and Ironsource mention
    1:00:35 A little longer ALIT mention


    Mike Mitchell on his big bet on lumber and GreenFirst $ICLTF Aug 18, 2021
    Show notes

    Mike Mitchell, the king of lumber fintwit, discusses his big bet on GreenFirst. Key topics include how Mike found GreenFirst (back when it was Itasca Capital), how he came to know and trust the management team, why he's so bullish on lumber, and why the thinks the deal to buy Rayonier's lumber assets is such a good one.
    Note that GreenFirst is a microcap Canadian company and much riskier than your average stock, so please remember nothing in this podcast is investing advice and to do your own due diligence.
    *During the podcast, Mike mentions smoking ribs for Kyle. Kyle has assured me that Mike's ribs are excellent.
    Mike's thread on ICLTF: https://twitter.com/ignorenarrative/s...
    My GreenFirst background tweets: https://twitter.com/AndrewRangeley/st...
    Chapters
    0:00 Intro
    1:55 GreenFirst overview and background
    6:45 Who the heck closes a deal on a Saturday?
    7:15 How Mike came to know and trust management
    13:35 Mike smokes ribs for Kyle*
    17:20 Discussing the various bear cases surrounding the FGF universe
    20:45 Comping FGF to some of the early John Malone transactions
    22:50 Betting on great management teams
    28:00 Lumber fundamentals overview
    37:45 Some more discussion on the complexity of lumber prices
    41:40 What drove the recent lumber price crash?
    44:15 Can ICLTF make money with lumber prices where they are currently?
    49:35 If ICLTF is buying assets so cheap, why is Rayonier selling?
    56:20 Viewing the rights offering through the bull and bear lens
    1:06:15 GreenFirst's new management team (the people who will actually operate the assets)
    1:10:25 Comping the assets GreenFirst is buying to other industry deals
    1:14:00 What happens if lumber prices and utilization don't improve?


    Sean Iddings on the bull case for $EXPI Aug 06, 2021
    Show notes

    Sean Iddings, an entrepreneur and microcap investor, discusses his high conviction position in eXp World Holdings (EXPI). EXPI is a hyper growth company that is attacking the real estate brokerage business with an interesting model. Sean breaks down the business, the upside he sees in the company, and addresses some of the red flags surrounding the stock.
    Sean’s EXPI write up: https://www.thewoodshedd.com/posts/2021-07-09-highconviction-copy/#how-to-value-expi
    Sean's twitter: https://twitter.com/iddings_sean
    My notes on EXPI, including some interesting proxy details: https://twitter.com/AndrewRangeley/status/1423081507132936194?s=20
    Chapters
    0:00 Intro
    1:25 What is EXPI?
    8:55 How EXPI harnesses the power of incentives
    10:05 Comparing EXPI to a multi-level marketing company (EXPI)
    18:00 Why aren't we seeing operating leverage?
    22:30 EXPI's expansion opportunities
    26:30 Discussing EXPI's copycats
    29:20 Is how the employees relate to the stock price concerning?
    35:45 Veirbela and Success magazine; critical assets or overrated?
    45:50 Sean's closing thoughts


    Chris Krug from Chatham Harbor Capital on Performant $PFMT Jul 28, 2021
    Show notes

    Chris Krug, President of Chatham Harbor Capital, breaks down his thesis on PFMT, including why he thinks the stock could be a multi-multi-bagger.
    Chris's twitter: https://twitter.com/chcap2016
    My thread on PFMT notes: https://twitter.com/AndrewRangeley/st...
    Chapters
    0:00 Intro
    1:05 PFMT Valuation Outline
    4:40 PFMT business overview
    15:15 How PFMT "lands and expands" verticals
    18:55 How PFMT integrates and ramps up new contracts
    27:55 Why can't a start up come and displace PFMT?
    32:05 What PFMT's financials look like once all their new clients onboard
    35:40 Quantifying PFMT's margin outlook
    37:25 Why can't HMS respond to PFMT?
    40:20 Why is Parthenon selling so aggressively?
    44:20 PFMT's capital allocation
    47:25 Would healthcare reform hurt or help PFMT?
    49:15 What could kill this investment?
    53:10 Closing thoughts

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    Artem Fokin from Caro-Kann on Burford's bull case Jul 18, 2021
    Show notes

    Artem Fokin, founder of Caro-Kann Capital, discusses the bull case for Burford (BUR). Burford is a litigation finance firm, and Artem makes a compelling case that they are both undervalued on an asset basis and have a moat giving their scale.
    Caro-Kann's website: http://caro-kann-capital.com/
    My thread on Burford prep: https://twitter.com/AndrewRangeley/status/1415795903751983109?s=20
    Chapters
    0:00 Intro
    1:35 Burford Overview
    6:00 Does Burford bring something other than money to the table?
    13:45 Is Burford's scale a competitive advantage?
    19:30 Why can't a major PE or IB launch a Burford competitor?
    23:10 Are the returns to litigation financing sustainable?
    37:10 How do you value Burford?
    42:20 Burford's first component of value: Balance sheet investments
    49:05 Buford's second value component: Asset management
    54:50 Burford's third value component: YPF case
    58:30 How Burford has valued YPF over the years
    1:10:25 Why should YPF settle in dollars instead of pesos?
    1:14:20 Discussing the bear case around the management team
    1:23:45 Closing thoughts


    Adam Lindsay takes a TRIP through the LTRPA bull thesis Jul 14, 2021
    Show notes

    Adam Lindsay, founder and managing partner of Powell Anderson Capital Partners, discusses his bull thesis for Tripadvior (TRIP) and Liberty Tripadvisor (LTRPA). The bull thesis is nuanced, but much of it centers on TRIP's nascent Tripadvisor Plus business, which Adam thinks TRIP is uniquely suited to successfully launch and could drastically change their financials.
    Adam's email: adam@pacp.com
    Chapters
    0:00 Intro
    1:30 TRIP Overview
    6:30 Why is Tripadvisor Plus not Instant Booking 2.0?
    13:00 How Plus could be a win/win/win
    22:30 Why can't OTA competitors copy Plus if it works?
    25:25 TRIP's crown jewel: experiences
    33:00 Evaluating TRIP's management
    38:00 Strained analogy comparing Twitter to TRIP
    40:30 TRIP valuation
    43:45 TRIP's cost structure going forward
    50:05 Comparing Liberty Tripadvisor to Tripadvisor
    55:00 Do TRIP and LTRPA get a "Maffei discount"?


    Kyle Cerminara on deSPACing OppFi with $FGNA Jul 08, 2021
    Show notes

    Kyle Cerminara, President of FGNA, discusses his thesis for deSPACing with OppFi. Key topics include comparing OppFi to its closest competitors, how FNGA and OppFi arrived at their valuation, and addressing different regulatory risks for OppFi.
    Kyle's twitter: https://twitter.com/kcerminara
    OppFi / FGNA's SEC filings: https://www.sec.gov/edgar/browse/?CIK=1818502&owner=exclude
    Chapters
    0:00 Intro
    1:30 OppFi overview
    9:40 Comping OppFi to Upstart
    16:35 Why are Katapult and Affirm part of OppFi's comp set?
    19:00 OppFi's valuation
    22:10 Why did OppFi agree to a deSpac at this valuation?
    27:45 How going public gives OppFi a bigger microphone
    29:35 Discussing negative headlines around FGF
    35:25 Why did FGNA send out so many LOIs?
    40:00 How did FGNA and OppFi handle the wait between the LOI in December and the definitive deal in February
    45:20 Will banning "rent-a-bank" impact OppFi?
    49:00 Discussing OppFi's ~30% charge off rate
    50:50 Interest rate caps and pending litigation
    55:20 Why didn't FGNA get a PIPE for the OppFi deal?
    58:10 Discussing OppFi's management and Joe Moglia
    1:06:45 Kyle's closing thoughts
    1:09:15 Bonus question: how will reopening impact OppFi?


    Uncovering CATO's value with Mike Melby Jun 30, 2021
    Show notes

    Mike Melby, Founder and Portfolio Manager at Gate City Capital, makes a repeat appearance to discuss his investment in CATO. CATO is a small retailer with a rock solid balance sheet; Mike thinks their low multiple combined with a focus on returning cash flow to shareholders and some hidden tax and real estate assets creates an attractive investment opportunity.
    Mike's first appearance on AXR: https://youtu.be/mSEgw2529Q4
    Gate City Capital website: https://www.gatecitycap.com/
    Chapters
    0:00 Intro
    1:00 Cato Overview
    5:45 Cato's target demographics
    8:45 Cato's online strategy (or lack thereof)
    13:15 What's driven Cato's store base recently
    15:30 Discussing CATO's management
    22:05 Valuing CATO's land
    27:35 Quantifying CATO's Sum of the Parts (SOTP)
    30:15 What's the endgame for CATO?
    37:25 Mike's closing thoughts on CATO


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