What Would Ted Lasso Do

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Carol of the Bells Jan 09, 2023

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It’s Christmastime in Lassoland, and in this week’s episode, we’re breaking down the fun Christmas references and heartwarming storylines happening with our favorite characters in “Carol of the Bells!”

With callbacks to Love Actually, Christmas Story, Elf, and more, this episode of Ted Lasso explores the “Sexy Christmas” storyline with Keeley, Roy, and Phoebe, Christmas fun at the Higgins’ house, and Ted and Rebecca’s evening together. While some share meals and dishes from their cultures, others confront a bully in a kind way, and ultimately, they all adjust to the unique nature of their holidays away from home.

“Everyone feels seen. Not only does the character feel seen, but the actors feel seen in that moment… And I think a lot of times with anything that we do, a lot of times we’re like, ‘Well, I can’t be perfect, so I’m just not gonna mention it,’ but it’s like no – the trying is what matters.” – Jeff (26:44)

In the glow of Christmas, the Ted Lasso characters share joy, forgiveness, comfort, and love as they juggle unconventional Christmases. It’s a lesson for all of us in managing expectations, finding the beauty in the unexpected and unplanned, and opening ourselves up to the magic of being in relationship with others.

In This Episode

[3:46] Christmastime in Ted Lasso
[10:38] The lengths we go to for the people we love
[21:05] Finding a home away from home during the holidays
[30:12] Embracing imperfection and spontaneity
[32:10] Rekindling belief and spirit
[38:38] How to look for magic when the world feels gray
[52:10] Developing moments that matter and key takeaways

Resources & Links

Mentioned
Ted Lasso – The Missing Christmas Mustache
In “Ted Lasso,” Higgins Delivers a Sweet Holiday Speech

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Why Radically Human Leadership Is More Important Than Ever

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4 Steps to Creating A Human-Centered Organization

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Do the Right-est Thing Jan 02, 2023

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Whether in a leadership position or simply part of a team, sincerity is at the heart of functioning personal and professional dynamics. But what do we do when our gut prompts us to do something outside the norm?

Episode three, “Do The Rightest Thing,” adds a political element to the team's trials, and we see a moving display of unity and solidarity when one player stands up for what he believes in. In today’s episode, we explore finding the courage to push back, the tendency to people-please, what happens when we’re feeling lost, and why leaders must trust their team's training and ability to stand on their own.

“I think sometimes that ability as a leader to be able to recognize, ‘OK, I don’t have this particular gift, somebody else does, but that doesn’t mean I’m any less of a leader in this place. It just means I do things one way, and this person can help make this even stronger.’” – Dimple (30:05)

We also discuss what it means to “do the right thing” for yourself and those around you and how these decisions can make waves, intended and unintended. As we head into the next week, we’re mulling over this question about following and trusting our intuition.

“That is the question for us listeners. What is the thing you’re struggling on where you feel like, ‘I need to do the right thing,’ and what is being communicated to you from your intuition?” – Jeff (58:16)

In This Episode

[1:16] What we’re willing to sacrifice for happiness and clarity
[9:25] Developing sincerity and managing our people-pleasing tendencies
[16:23] Finding the courage to push back and sometimes say, ‘No’
[27:07] Why leaders sometimes have to step back and let their people fly
[36:50] The strength and drive of the younger generation and how leaders need to support these younger professionals
[45:18] The importance of standing up for what you believe in
[51:20] The dynamic of the team shifts
[55:19] Spike Lee’s Do the Right Thing
[59:35] Takeaways for the next week

Resources & Links

Mentioned

Spike Lee - Do the Right Thing

The Amazing Tool That Women in the White House Used to Fight Gender Bias

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Why Radically Human Leadership Is More Important Than Ever

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4 Steps to Creating A Human-Centered Organization

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Lavender Dec 26, 2022

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What happens when our identity becomes so tightly intertwined with what we do? When we experience obstacles in our professional life, how do we deal with that loss of confidence?

This week in episode 2, we’re unraveling these questions in the context of Ted Lasso’s second season and unpacking what it means to be true to who you are, how to find comfort and encouragement in the people you trust, and why we have to be brave in moments of vulnerability.

As we discuss decoupling our identity as a professional from our identity as a person, we consider this question of security vs. success and how to balance and encourage the growth of both in a workspace.

“We talk a lot in the work that we do about wanting to create these psychologically safe spaces. We want to create spaces where people can show up and be themselves, and that’s what Ted has done. But at what point does that pendulum swing too far to the other end where it’s damaging the organization?” – Dimple (12:54)

In This Episode

[4:15] Why it’s important for leaders to pay attention to the dynamics between their team members
[11:27] How to separate your identity from your profession and also encourage success in your organization
[17:40] How familial relationships influence the way we interact with others
[22:14] Why we have to challenge our people to be the best versions of themselves
[35:17] How to balance supporting a team vs. the individual members
[42:23] The Prince of Tides connection and how different people deal with pain
[47:07] Key takeaways: fostering psychologically safe spaces while encouraging success and creating space for vulnerability

Resources & Links

Mentioned
Every Person Who Got an Army Man and Its Meaning
Brene Brown – The Man in the Arena
Matthew Syed – The Greatest: The Quest for Sporting Perfection
Why Prince of Tides is Dr. Sharon’s Favorite Book

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Why Radically Human Leadership Is More Important Than Ever
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4 Steps to Creating A Human-Centered Organization
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Building Psychological Safety At Work
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Solve Your Problem With Play
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Jeff’s Positive Psychology Playlist
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Goodbye Earl Dec 19, 2022

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Welcome to Season 2 of What Would Ted Lasso Do! We’re back for another season with some really exciting episodes ahead, and we’re so grateful for the community that we’ve cultivated here. Thank you for being a part of this journey!

As we dive into the second season of Ted Lasso, the dynamics between the characters that we know and love are undeniably shifting, so what happens when these beloved individuals have to move through uncomfortable moments? What happens when they’re forced to grow and adapt?

Well, sometimes they have to reach out to others.

“I love that they’re starting to weave in this idea that like, sometimes you have to ask for help, and there has to be an understanding that all of our parts of life are connected. And so we’re not going to forget one thing just because we’re given kind of permission to forget it.” – Dimple (33:08)

In this episode, we’re breaking down where we end up when optimism is temporarily absent, how to truly listen to those around us, the importance of character, integrity, and vulnerability in intimate connections, why leadership requires us to marry gentleness and assertion, and why we should never ever settle for less than we deserve.

In the words of Roy Kent, “Don’t you dare settle for ‘fine.’”

In This Episode

[05:31] Beginning the season, shifting relationships, and how to move forward when optimism is missing
[13:50] How to regulate apprehension, superstition, and aggression in leadership positions
[22:33] Why “fixing it” and offering solutions is not always the response people are seeking
[26:08] The importance of developing boundaries and trust in your relationships
[33:33] How to marry authenticity and professionalism in a workplace
[ ] Evaluating character and integrity and embracing vulnerability in the face of intimacy
[50:12] Fun references throughout the show
[55:12] Wrapping up the episode and revealing how we’ll be taking these lessons into the coming week

Resources & Links

Mentioned
World Domination Summit IG
1236 Angel Number
Trudi Lebron – The Antiracist Business Book
Organizational Trauma: The Unacknowledged Trauma That May Be Impacting Your Organization More Than You Realize

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Why Radically Human Leadership Is More Important Than Ever

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4 Steps to Creating A Human-Centered Organization

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Solve Your Problem With Play

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Jeff’s Positive Psychology Playlist

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What Would Ted Lasso Do Season 2 - Trailer Dec 12, 2022

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Welcome to season two of "What would Ted Lasso Do?". In this podcast, not only do we geek out on Ted Lasso, but we do it through the lens of positive psychology and leadership. Some may see this as just a show, but we have found life-altering lessons in each episode and break them down so you don’t have to. So, whether you’re a diehard TedHead, new to the fandom, fascinated with the world of Positive Psychology, or just want to be a better leader, come along on this rollercoaster journey with us. Together, we can begin to learn what it actually means to BELIEVE.

The Hope That Kills You Aug 02, 2022

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Is it really the hope that kills you? Or is it the lack of hope that’s the real threat?

This question is at the heart of our discussion as we dive into episode 10 - The Hope That Kills You - which also happens to be the final episode of Season 1 of Ted Lasso and our podcast.

This week, we analyze the impact of hope – and what happens in the absence of it – on leadership and teamwork.

“You always have an impact on somebody.

So the question is, what type of impact do you wanna have? How do you wanna show up in a room? How do you wanna show up at this moment? Because all of that adds up to something phenomenal and amazing. So what do you wanna do?” - Jeff Harry

We also dive deeper into the role of motivation and agency in creating and sustaining hope and empowering the people you lead, and how hope ties into the overarching concept of believe that serves as the thruline of the show.

And finally we turn to the biggest lesson we each gleaned from the first season of Ted Lasso and what we’ll be taking with us as we move into the second!

In This Episode

How leaders can empower their teams to succeed, even as roles change (05:53)
How failure can make for a valuable perspective, and Brene Brown’s concept of “foreboding joy” (11:47)
Where motivation comes from, and how to use it to create new solutions to problems (13:54)
What productive relationships look like between leaders and their people, and trusting others to do their jobs (20:18)
Overcoming the impulse to self-protect by “leaning into” disappointment, and the power of hope (24:02)
The importance of problem-solving together, regardless of hierarchy or role, and building psychological safety on your team (32:24)
What a “ministry of presence” is, and how just being there can help us get one another through tough times (45:51)
The positive psychology behind allowing ourselves to feel pain (47:17)

Resources & Links

Mentioned in this Episode

Soldiers Who Salsa - https://www.warriorsbeyondwar.org/soldiers-who-salsa-more
Brene Brown on foreboding joy - https://www.huffpost.com/entry/dr-brene-brown-joy-gratitude-oprah_n_2885983
Hope theory - https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/beautiful-minds/201112/the-will-and-ways-hope
mPEAK- https://rootsintheclouds.com/mpeak

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Jeff’s Positive Psychology Playlist
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All Apologies Jul 26, 2022

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Why is it so hard to be accountable and admit when we’re wrong? More importantly, why are we so afraid of creating space to have those conversations?

This week we look at Episode 9, the penultimate episode, of What Would Ted Lasso Do? - All Apologies - and explore what’s at the heart of forgiveness.

We also dive deep into the connection between empathy and forgiveness, the perfectionistic tendencies of high performers, the importance of self-compassion, and what the audacity to BELIEVE looks like.

“Forgiveness is ultimately about growing from the process. … Oftentimes we forgive people not for them, but [for] us. It’s about what we carry and what it does to us. How do you sit down with someone who has destroyed [you] and forgive them?”

In This Episode

● Belief, forgiveness and empathy (02:41)

● Difficult conversations and leadership (04:12)

● What do you do when you’re wrong? (08:16)

● Why forgiveness is one of the most difficult – and important – things to do (13:41)

● How selfishness can distort forgiveness (19:48)

● The connection between identity and change (23:29)

● The purpose of our inner critic (28:23)

● The audacity of belief (34:49)

● Why we stay in jobs we hate (38:07)

● Performative activism (45:37)

● Asking “What would Ted Lasso do?” in real life (55:20)

Resources & Links

Mentioned in This Episode

Brene Brown on empathy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Evwgu369Jw&t=2s
mPEAK
https://www.mpeakcoaching.com/mpeak
Big Magic
https://www.elizabethgilbert.com/books/big-magic/
Patricia Moreno and intenSati
https://patriciamoreno.com/intensati/

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● Why Radically Human Leadership Is More Important Than Ever

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● 4 Steps to Creating A Human-Centered Organization

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■ Building Psychological Safety At Work

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■ Solve Your Problem With Play

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■ Jeff’s Positive Psychology Playlist

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The Diamond Dogs Jul 19, 2022

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This week we dive into Episode 8 - Diamond Dogs and wow was this a juicy one with something for everyone!

For leaders out there we explore the theme of emotional intelligence and what it has to do with effective leadership. We also talk about how radical honesty make us happier, and consider when it's better to be curious rather than judgmental.

This episode was also about #relationshipgoals as we watched the beginning of something between Roy and Keeley. We looked at the baggage we carry into relationships, and the power of calling each other out in relationships and friendships, and the dynamics of several other relationships on the show.

We dive deep into everyone's favorite monologue and why curiosity is the most underrated tool in the leadership toolbox and realize that there are a lot more WWTLD moments out there than we may be realizing. As we explore these themes, Jeff does his best Rupert impression, and Dimple takes us back to the Sixties to introduce Ted Lasso to Don Draper.

“The most important skill that a leader can have is emotional intelligence. And to me, this whole episode was such a demonstration of emotional intelligence and all the facets of it.” – Dimple

In this episode

(3:38) The ability to manage emotions
(8:26) Radical honesty
(11:16) Analyzing Roy’s raw emotions
(17:19) Uncertainty with starting new relationships
(22:23) Discernment of telling the truth
(25:42) Jeff on calling out in relationships
(28:45) Rebecca and Ted’s monologue
(39:28) Understanding better manners
(40:25) Curiosity as a leader’s tool
(42:12) Hurt people, hurt people
(51:56) Snowboarding company only cares for money
(55:24) Ignoring bigger issues in workplaces
(57:21) Dimple and Jeff’s key points from the episode

Resources & Links

Mentioned This Week

The 4 Components of Emotional Intelligence - https://ohio4h.org/sites/ohio4h/files/imce/Emotional%20Intelligence%20Background.pdf
Winter Olympics: Snowboard company Burton defends working in Xinjiang - https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-asia-china-60045448

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Why Radically Human Leadership Is More Important Than Ever

https://www.rootsintheclouds.com/blog/why-radically-human-leadership-is-more-important-than-ever

4 Steps to Creating A Human-Centered Organization

https://www.rootsintheclouds.com/blog/004-4-steps-to-creating-a-human-centered-organization

Learn More About Jeff Harry

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Building Psychological Safety At Work

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Solve Your Problem With Play

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Jeff’s Positive Psychology Playlist

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Make Rebecca Great Again Jul 12, 2022

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It's time to Make Rebecca Great Again this week as we dive into Episode 7 of What Would Ted Lasso Do? We spent a lot of time talking about the overarching theme of limiting beliefs and how they show up for our band of Richmond misfits, and how creating connection, empowering people and leaning into our own agency can help us move past them.

We also explore a number of themes this week including radical responsibility, mental health and anxiety and the significance of strong female friendships, and the power of forgiveness. Dimple and Jeff also share their own experiences of overcoming limiting beliefs and explore why the most effective leaders work to help their people be the best versions of themselves, for themselves, and not the company's bottom line.

“When we have those limiting beliefs that hold us back, we are kind of putting ourselves under the bus. So for me, noticing when I am running into a limiting belief, it's important to ask what agency do I have in the moment to change it to something else? That’s something I really want to focus on. What is the small action that I can actually do to disrupt it?” – Dimple

In This Episode

What limiting beliefs are, and what we can learn from the way Ted, Rebecca, Nate and other characters overcome theirs (04:52)
The importance of psychological safety in expressing our opinions in a team setting (08:26)
Why limiting beliefs often dictate our reality (11:06)
The lessons on connection and growth that Dimple learned from one of the best leaders she’s ever worked with (13:05)
Radical responsibility and courageous communication (16:58)
Rebecca, Sassy and the concept of no-guilt friendships (26:12)
Conditioned reactions, fight vs flight and Ted’s panic attacks (31:11)
What leaders can learn from Ted about accountability, apologizing and following through (37:39)

Resources & Links

Mentioned

SmartLess podcast with Jason Bateman, Sean Hayes & Will Arnett
https://www.smartless.com/
Coach John Wooden and the Pyramid of Success
http://www.coachwooden.com/
Brene Brown
https://brenebrown.com/

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Why Radically Human Leadership Is More Important Than Ever - https://www.rootsintheclouds.com/blog/why-radically-human-leadership-is-more-important-than-ever
4 Steps to Creating A Human-Centered Organization - https://www.rootsintheclouds.com/blog/004-4-steps-to-creating-a-human-centered-organization

Learn More About Jeff Harry

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Building Psychological Safety At Work

https://www.rediscoveryourplay.com/building-psychological-safety

Solve Your Problem With Play

https://www.rediscoveryourplay.com/coaching

Jeff’s Positive Psychology Playlist

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Two Aces Jul 05, 2022

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Do we grow more from one big step – or a hundred little ones?

This week we explore episode 6 - Two Aces - and discuss how Ted’s vulnerability makes him a more empathetic and effective leader – and the lessons we can learn from the way he grows from his grief.

We also examine this episode’s themes of agency vs autonomy and living into values, sports superstitions, double standards in gender, and what happens when we don’t allow ourselves to progress after pain.

Jeff also calls BS on team-building events, and Dimple explains the idea of Schadenfreude, or delighting in others’ misery.

“[We] see the world in one of three ways: either as a playground, a place that you can play and explore and everyone is safe to play with; a proving ground where you’re constantly in competition with other people and you feel like you constantly have to prove yourself; or as a battleground where you just see everyone as a threat.” – Jeff

In This Episode