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Weird Little Guys

Weird Little Guys is a weekly show about the worst people you’ve never heard of, taking you beyond the headlines to get to know the race warriors and aspiring terrorists trying to unravel the fabric of our society. Weaving together the origin stories of modern American white supremacist groups and the crimes that land their members in court, independent journalist Molly Conger exposes the monsters for what they really are – some weird guy. Whether they’re conspiring to build bombs or serving swastika shaped cookies at a dinner party, the weird little guys trying to destroy America are a little less scary with their masks off.

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Slow Decline Jul 24, 2025

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In 2016, Nicholas Young became the first American police officer to be arrested and charged with a federal terrorism offense. At trial, jurors were shown mountains of evidence about his collection of nazi memorabilia. But what does that have to do with the gift cards he texted to an FBI informant he thought was a member of ISIS?
Sources:
https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/4559133/united-states-v-young
Helen Taylor (2019): Domestic terrorism and hate crimes: legal definitions and media framing of mass shootings in the United States, Journal of Policing, Intelligence and Counter Terrorism
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https://web.archive.org/web/20210924060335/https://www.nysun.com/national/a-prosecutor-is-called-relentless/82727/
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https://theintercept.com/2017/03/16/prosecutors-allege-dubious-isis-nazi-connection-in-terror-sting-case/
https://www.cair.com/cair_in_the_news/va-terror-prosecutor-accused-of-anti-muslim-bias/
https://www.abajournal.com/news/article/prosecutor_accused_of_personal_animus_in_muslim_terrorism_cases
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Human Rights Watch & Human Rights Institute, Illusion of Justice: Human Rights Abuses in US Terrorism Prosecutions, (2014).
Available at: https://scholarship.law.columbia.edu/human_rights_institute/44
T. Ward Frampton, Predisposition and Positivism: The Forgotten Foundations of the Entrapment Doctrine, 103 J. Crim. L. & Criminology 111 (2013).
https://scholarlycommons.law.northwestern.edu/jclc/vol103/iss1/3
Dru Stevenson, Entrapment By Numbers, 16 J. LAW & PUB. POL’Y 1 (2005)
https://law.bepress.com/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?referer=&httpsredir=1&article=5903&context=expresso
Daveed Gartenstein-Ross & Madeleine Blackman, 2022. "Fluidity of the Fringes: Prior Extremist Involvement as a Radicalization Pathway," Studies in Conflict and Terrorism, Taylor & Francis Journals, vol. 45(7)
German, Mike and Beth Zasloff. Policing White Supremacy. The New Press, 2025.
Hoffman, Bruce, and Jacob Ware. God, Guns, and Sedition: Far-Right Terrorism in America. Columbia University Press, 2024.
Marc‑André Argentino, Shiraz Maher, Charlie Winter, 2021. Violent Extremist Innovation:
A Cross‑Ideological Analysis, International Centre for the Study of Radicalisation
https://icsr.info/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/ICSR-Report-Violent-Extremist-Innovation-A-Cross%E2%80%91Ideological-Analysis.pdf
Marc‑André Argentino, Amarnath Amarasingam, Emmi Conley, 2022. “One Struggle”:
Examining Narrative Syncretism between Accelerationists and Salafi‑Jihadists. International Centre for the Study of Radicalisation
https://icsr.info/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/ICSR-Report-One-Struggle-Examining-Narrative-Syncretism-between-Accelerationists-and-Salafi%E2%80%91Jihadists.pdf
Connecting the Fringes: Neo-Nazi Glorification of Salafi-Jihadi Representations Online, Julien Bellaiche
https://gnet-research.org/2021/08/24/connecting-the-fringes-neo-nazi-glorification-of-salafi-jihadi-representations-online/
Meleagrou-Hitchens, Alexander; Ayad, Moustafa; Program on Extremism, George Washington University; and National Counterterrorism Innovation, Technology, and Education Center, "The Age of Incoherence? Understanding Mixed and Unclear Ideology Extremism" (2023). Reports, Projects, and Research.
https://extremism.gwu.edu/sites/g/files/zaxdzs5746/files/2023-06/the-age-of-incoherence-final.pdf
Martin Laryš (2024) “White Jihad” and “White Sharia”: Jihadism as an Instrument of Intra-Extremist Outbidding among Right-Wing Extremists, Terrorism and Political Violence, 36:7, 853-870, DOI: 10.1080/09546553.2023.2214240
Ariel Koch, Karine Nahon & Assaf Moghadam (2024) White Jihad: How White Supremacists Adopt Jihadi Narratives, Aesthetics, and Tactics, Terrorism and Political Violence, 36:7, 919-943, DOI: 10.1080/09546553.2023.2223694

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Red Flag Jul 17, 2025

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When FBI agents started combing through the digital footprint of a dead school shooter, they found more than the usual missed warning signs.
Sources:
https://www.maargentino.com/narrative-examination-of-the-antioch-high-school-shooters-manifesto-and-diary/
https://www.maargentino.com/digital-dystopia-the-dark-nexus-of-violent-extremism-and-sexual-exploitation-a-case-study/
https://www.maargentino.com/examining-the-soyjak-attacker-video-fandom-part-i/
https://www.propublica.org/article/madison-nashville-school-shooters-online-extremism
https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/article/trump-assassionation-plot-nikita-casap-terrorgram-wisconsin-propublica/
https://www.rawstory.com/raw-investigates/solomon-henderson-natalie-rupnow/
https://www.accresearch.org/accreports/inside-terrorgram-a-strategic-look-at-the-collectives-history
https://gnet-research.org/2024/08/16/dead-society-tracing-the-online-dimension-of-a-militant-accelerationist-inspired-attack-in-turkey/
https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/article/terrorgram-collective-bratislava-murders/
https://www.wsmv.com/2025/05/02/antioch-school-shooter-signed-paperwork-not-have-gun-morning-shooting-juvenile-criminal-records-show/
https://wpln.org/post/first-came-the-warning-signs-then-a-teen-opened-fire-on-a-nashville-school/
https://fox5sandiego.com/news/local-news/court-bars-carlsbad-man-linked-to-wisconsin-school-shooter-from-obtaining-firearms/
https://therighting.com/original/meet-the-radical-feminists-who-stoked-the-biggest-olympics-gender-controversy/
https://www.buzzfeed.com/ishmaeldaro/the-baron-nsclrp

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CZM Rewind: The Civil War False Flag Jul 10, 2025

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When someone left a bomb at a Civil War reenactment event in 2017, it looked like antifascist activists were out for revenge after the Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville. A mysterious letter writer claiming to be an antifascist collective took credit for the bomb and threatened even more violence to come if Civil War reenactments weren't called off. But the bomber wasn't antifa - it was a spurned Confederate re-enactor.

Orignal Air Date: 8.15.24

Sources:

https://qz.com/1800988/antifa-falsely-accused-of-threatening-civil-war-group https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2020/02/12/civil-war-reenactor-antifa-threats/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/virginia-politics/civil-war-reenactment-in-virginia-canceled-amid-worries-over-violence/2017/08/18/633b71d8-844a-11e7-b359-15a3617c767b_story.html

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/virginia-civil-war-reenactors-receive-threat-of-bodily-harm/29951/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/we-wanted-to-send-a-message-reenactors-stage-civil-war-battle-despite-threat/2017/10/15/77dd0348-b1c4-11e7-a908-a3470754bbb9_story.html https://www.winchesterstar.com/news/frederick_county/increased-security-planned-for-battle-of-cedar-creek-event/article_aec48f2e-c708-5b7d-8679-1ca677e96f3d.html https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/65406287/united-states-v-drake/

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There Is A Spectre Haunting New York City Jul 03, 2025

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The right wing media is buzzing with accusations that the Democratic nominee for mayor of New York City is a communist. They're calling for his removal from not only the ballot... but the also the country. This anticommunist panic isn't new.
Sources:
Drabble, John. “To Ensure Domestic Tranquility: The FBI, Cointelpro-White Hate and Political Discourse, 1964-1971.” Journal of American Studies, vol. 38, no. 2, 2004, pp. 297–328. JSTOR, http://www.jstor.org/stable/27557518.
Horowitz, David Alan. “White Southerners’ Alienation and Civil Rights: The Response to Corporate Liberalism, 1956-1965.” The Journal of Southern History, vol. 54, no. 2, 1988, pp. 173–200. JSTOR, https://doi.org/10.2307/2209398.
Katagiri, Yasuhiro. Black Freedom, White Resistance, and Red Menace: Civil Rights and Anticommunism In the Jim Crow South. Baton Rouge, LA: Louisiana State University Press, 2014.
Lewis, George. The White South and the Red Menace: Segregationists, Anticommunism, and Massive Resistance, 1945-1965. University Press of Florida, 2004.
Kovel, Joel. Red Hunting in the Promised Land: Anticommunism and the Making of America. 2nd ed. London: Cassel, 1997.
https://politicalresearch.org/2022/01/04/blue-lives-matter-and-us-counter-subversive-tradition
Shanahan, J., & Wall, T. (2021). ‘Fight the reds, support the blue’: Blue Lives Matter and the US counter-subversive tradition. Race & Class, 63(1), 70-90.
Brenner, Samuel Lawrence (May 2009). Shouting at the Rain: The Voices and Ideas of Right-Wing Anti-Communist Americanists in the Era of Modern American Conservatism, 1950-1974 (Thesis). Brown University.
Schrecker, Ellen. “Immigration and Internal Security: Political Deportations during the McCarthy Era.” Science & Society, vol. 60, no. 4, 1996, pp. 393–426.
Schrecker, Ellen. “Archival Sources for the Study of McCarthyism.” The Journal of American History, vol. 75, no. 1, 1988, pp. 197–208
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https://www.congress.gov/103/statute/STATUTE-107/STATUTE-107-Pg2317.pdf
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https://www.justice.gov/civil/media/1404046/dl?inline

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A Brief History of Vehicular Violence Jun 26, 2025

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Last week, we talked about one particular incident of vehicular violence on protesters. But where does the tactic come from? Who is doing it? And why?
Sources:
Miller, Vincent, and Keith J. Hayward. “‘I DID MY BIT’: TERRORISM, TARDE AND THE VEHICLE RAMMING ATTACK AS AN IMITATIVE EVENT.” The British Journal of Criminology, vol. 59, no. 1, 2019, pp. 1–23. JSTOR, https://www.jstor.org/stable/26780645. Accessed 16 June 2025.
Brian Michael Jenkins and Bruce R. Butterworth, Smashing into Crowds: An Analysis of Vehicle Ramming Attacks. San Jose, CA: Mineta Transportation Institute, 2019
https://transweb.sjsu.edu/sites/default/files/SP-1119-Vehicle-Ramming-Attacks.pdf
Brian Michael Jenkins and Bruce R. Butterworth, Metal Against Marchers. San Jose, CA: Mineta Transportation Institute, 2020
https://transweb.sjsu.edu/sites/default/files/SP1020-Metal-Against-Marchers.pdf
Gabriel Nowacki & Cezary Krysiuk & Damian Szafranek, 2025. "Vehicle Ramming as a Form of Terrorist Attack Threatening Public Safety," European Research Studies Journal, European Research Studies Journal, vol. 0(1), pages 707-722.
Simon Perry, Badi Hasisi & Gali Perry (2018) Who is the Lone Terrorist? A Study of Vehicle-Borne Attackers in Israel and the West Bank, Studies in Conflict & Terrorism,
41:11, 899-913, DOI: 10.1080/1057610X.2017.1348101
Pierce, Kelvin. Sins of My Father, Growing Up with America's Most Dangerous White Supremacist. Independently Published, 2020
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https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2331
https://cwa-union.org/news/strike-line-remembering-gerry-horgan
https://sfist.com/2025/03/10/truck-seems-to-drive-into-striking-vta-workers-on-picket-line-one-hospitalized/
https://komonews.com/amp/news/local/king-county-detective-on-leave-after-alleged-all-lives-splatter-facebook-post
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https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/14915697/united-states-v-henry/

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Murder on Fourth Street Jun 19, 2025

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With vehicular attacks on protests on the rise and elected officials encouraging the tactic, old conspiracy theories about one vehicular attack in particular are circulating once again. This is the story of what actually happened on Fourth Street in downtown Charlottesville on August 12, 2017.
Sources:
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2025/06/08/us/la-immigration-protests-photos-map.html
https://files.integrityfirstforamerica.org/14228/1641845853-dillon-hopper-deposition-as-played-at-trial.pdf
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/12/us/politics/florida-desantis-protests-warning.html
https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/6168921/sines-v-kessler/
https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/7299259/united-states-v-fields/

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Stand Back and Stand By Jun 12, 2025

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Last week, five Proud Boys announced a $100 million lawsuit against the government over their treatment during the January 6th prosecutions.
Sources:
https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/70474277/tarrio-v-united-states-of-america/
https://www.reuters.com/legal/litigation/ex-soldiers-acceptance-trump-pardon-didnt-constitute-confession-guilt-court-2021-09-23/

https://www.wsj.com/us-news/law/proud-boys-leaders-sue-u-s-over-jan-6-prosecutions-90f9f4ce

https://www.justice.gov/archives/opa/pr/jury-convicts-four-leaders-proud-boys-seditious-conspiracy-related-us-capitol-breach

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/09/05/enrique-tarrio-prison-sentencing-proud-boys-00114104

https://www.justice.gov/archives/opa/pr/proud-boys-leaders-sentenced-prison-roles-jan-6-capitol-breach

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c5y93jgdvqjo

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/dc-prosecutors-decline-to-charge-ex-proud-boys-leader-after-us-capitol-arrest/3872280/

https://www.salon.com/2020/12/15/how-did-a-proud-boys-leader-with-a-felony-record-get-into-the-white-house/

https://apnews.com/article/ashli-babbitt-wrongful-death-settlement-capitol-riot-9f2e60f9dce01237a1e78271cff82f6a

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/04/us/politics/trump-tarrio-proud-boys-pardon.html

https://web.archive.org/web/20170423005743/http://officialproudboys.com/news/the-kids-are-alt-knights/

https://www.splcenter.org/resources/hatewatch/new-fight-club-ready-street-violence/

https://www.splcenter.org/resources/extremist-files/fraternal-order-alt-knights-foak/

https://www.flmd.uscourts.gov/local-rules/rule-204-discipline-

https://www-media.floridabar.org/uploads/2025/05/2025_11-MAY-Chapter-3-RRTFB-5-29-2025.pdf

https://www.justice.gov/pardon/frequently-asked-questions

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Disney's Villain Jun 05, 2025

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After losing his job, an ex-Disney employee tried to get his former employer's attention by hacking in and making strange updates to company files.
Sources:
https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69534211/united-states-v-scheuer/
https://www.eeoc.gov/what-you-can-expect-after-you-file-charge
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/26/us/disney-worker-prison-hacking.html

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State Created Danger May 29, 2025

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In April 2025, the Supreme Court declined to hear a case filed by a pair of white supremacists who felt the police had violated their civil rights by refusing to help them put on a rally in Charlottesville in August of 2017. Their lawsuit was a joke, but unfortunately for all of us, the punchline is that the police don't actually have to help anyone.
Sources:
https://www.splcenter.org/resources/hatewatch/neo-nazi-lawyer-represents-baltimore-suit-over-wrongful-arrest-and-19-year-imprisonment/
https://www.splcenter.org/resources/hatewatch/leaked-emails-name-shadow-lawyer-charlottesville-case/
https://www.hunton.com/media/publication/34613_final-report-ada-compliant-ready.pdf
https://www.courthousenews.com/attorney-accused-of-neo-nazi-ties-argues-for-new-shot-at-libel-case/
https://www.supremecourt.gov/search.aspx?filename=/docket/docketfiles/html/public/21-5952.html
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Small Time Arms Dealer May 22, 2025

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In 1992, a small business owner in Oregon had to shut down his gun store. But he had to do something with all his remaining inventory….

Sources:

https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2014-01-21-ariel-sharon-apartheid-south-africa-and-mutual-military-interests/#.Vc4WVige5lk:
Moore, Matthew. “Arming the Embargoed: A Supply-Side Understanding of Arms Embargo Violations.” The Journal of Conflict Resolution, vol. 54, no. 4, 2010, pp. 593–615.
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