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Weird Little Guys

Weird Little Guys is a weekly show about the worst people you’ve never heard of, taking you beyond the headlines to get to know the race warriors and aspiring terrorists trying to unravel the fabric of our society. Weaving together the origin stories of modern American white supremacist groups and the crimes that land their members in court, independent journalist Molly Conger exposes the monsters for what they really are – some weird guy. Whether they’re conspiring to build bombs or serving swastika shaped cookies at a dinner party, the weird little guys trying to destroy America are a little less scary with their masks off.

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The White Wolf Mar 20, 2025

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In 1989, four Afrikaner nationalists and one German mercenary killed a security guard at a United Nations outpost in Namibia. After escaping from custody, they fled home to South Africa. A possibly non-existent group called The White Wolves took credit for the wave of bombings that followed.

Sources:

Du Preez, M. (2010). Pale native: Memories of a Renegade reporter. Zebra Press.

Rotberg, Robert (1988). The Founder: Cecil Rhodes and the Enigma of Power. Oxford University Press.

Falkof, Nicky. The End of Whiteness: Satanism and Family Murder in Late Apartheid South Africa. Johannesburg: Jacana Media, 2016.

https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2021-09-09-bruce-and-leonard-a-sad-african-immigrant-tale-of-injustice/

https://www.nytimes.com/1990/01/19/world/outjo-journal-un-namibia-team-makes-some-unlikely-friends.html

https://web.archive.org/web/20010429091808/http://www.un.org/documents/ga/res/spec/aress14-1.htm

https://www.saflii.org/za/cases/ZASCA/1999/72.html

https://www.upi.com/Archives/1989/08/11/Gunmen-attacked-a-UN-peace-keeping-force-adminstrative-headquarters-and/6550618811200/

https://ctc.westpoint.edu/the-nexus-between-far-right-extremists-in-the-united-states-and-ukraine/

https://digitalcommons.unomaha.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1043&context=ncitereportsresearch

https://web.archive.org/web/20181118212149/

https://www.iol.co.za/pretoria-news/the-day-wit-wolf-turned-pretoria-red-with-blood-18125595

https://www.jordanharbinger.com/bradley-steyn-undercover-with-mandelas-spies-part-one/

https://theafricancriminologyjournal.wordpress.com/2022/02/04/south-africa-the-strijdom-square-massacre/

https://www.iol.co.za/news/world/us-wit-wolf-slaughter-1873433

https://www.iol.co.za/news/south-africa/what-became-of-the-big-wit-wolf-424408

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Apartheid International Mar 13, 2025

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In the last episode, we looked at a strange series of rallies held in cities across the United States in 2012 - American neo-nazis were rallying in support of white South African Farmers. But how did they get that idea in their heads? The rallies were put on by a group called The South Africa Project, run by a woman I'd never heard of. Digging into this mysterious South African, I found a lot more than I bargained for - bombings and mercenaries and an international network of fascist terror.
Sources:
https://www.24sata.hr/news/hsp-as-prisegnuli-na-vjernost-domovini-i-donaldu-trumpu-513281#google_vignette
https://balkaninsight.com/2017/02/27/us-condemns-zagreb-neo-nazi-march-for-trump-02-27-2017/
https://www.icty.org/x/cases/naletilic_martinovic/cis/en/cis_naletilic_martinovic_en.pdf
https://archive.idavox.com/index.php/2012/09/24/the-aryan-nations-show-of-farce-in-dc/
https://time.com/3927339/dylann-roof-charleston-shooting-flags/
https://content.time.com/time/subscriber/article/0,33009,863800,00.html
https://www.csmonitor.com/layout/set/amphtml/1981/0219/021960.html
https://www.splcenter.org/resources/hate-watch/anti-genocide-protests-around-nation-were-organized-neo-nazis/
Visser, Myda. 1999. University of Pretoria. DIE IDEOLOGIESE GRONDSLAE EN ONlWIKKELING VAN DIE BLANKE FASCISTIESE BEWEGINGS IN SUID-AFRIKA, 1945-1995
Hill, Ray, and Andrew Bell. The Other Face of Terror: Inside Europe’s Neo-Nazi Network. Grafton, 1988.
https://www.justice.gov.za/trc/report/finalreport/volume%202.pdf
https://www.sahistory.org.za/article/june-16-soweto-youth-uprising
https://www.sahistory.org.za/article/apartheid-early-1980s

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Update On: A Short-Lived Pardon Mar 06, 2025

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This is a rerun of the episode that originally ran on February 6, 2025 with a newly recorded introduction with new information about the traffic stop that led to Matthew Huttle's death.
Sources:
https://www.indystar.com/story/news/crime/2025/02/27/body-cam-footage-jan-6-defendants-traffic-stop-shooting-death-released-matthew-huttle-jasper-county/80731312007/
https://www.in.gov/sheriffs/jasper/files/Jasper-County-OIS-Final-Report.pdf

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The White House Weighs in on White Genocide Feb 27, 2025

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In February of 2012, racist skinheads in California rallied at the capitol building in Sacramento. They were trying to raise awareness for an imaginary problem - an ongoing genocide against white South African farmers. In February of 2025, the President of the United States signed an executive order stripping foreign aid from South Africa as punishment for that same imaginary problem.
Sources:
Falkof, Nicky. (2022). Worrier state: Risk, anxiety and moral panic in South Africa. Manchester University Press.
Whiteness, Afrikaans, Afrikaners: Addressing Post-Apartheid Legacies, Privileges and Burdens. The Mapungubwe Institute for Strategic Reflection (MISTRA), 2018.
Holmes, Carolyn. Victimhood for an Audience: Portrayals of Extra-Lethal Violence and their Utility for Self-Identified Victims
https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5b6672f43c3a5320c2bec900/t/5c98fd14a4222fc0ef950ccd/1553530134194/Victimhood+for+an+Audience+-+March+2019.pdf
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/aug/23/white-farmers-trump-south-africa-tucker-carlson-far-right-influence
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/aug/23/trump-orders-close-study-of-south-africa-farmer-killings
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/ted-cruz-staff-usaid-met-group-called-apartheid-so-called-injustice_n_5af5dcb6e4b00d7e4c1a6571
https://www.splcenter.org/resources/hate-watch/anti-genocide-protests-around-nation-were-organized-neo-nazis/
https://www.splcenter.org/resources/hate-watch/campus-group-weighs-south-african-violence-targeting-whites/
https://www.splcenter.org/resources/hate-watch/dangerous-myth-white-genocide-south-africa/
https://africasacountry.com/2018/02/searching-for-white-genocide-in-south-africa/
https://unicornriot.ninja/2018/far-right-racists-push-fake-south-africa-white-genocide-narrative/
https://goodauthority.org/news/misinformation-south-africa-new-land-act-trump-musk/
https://www.jurist.org/features/2025/02/11/explainer-understanding-the-south-africa-land-reform-law-that-provoked-trumps-ire/
https://www.mediamatters.org/tucker-carlson/tucker-carlson-fearmongers-about-land-reform-south-africa
https://www.mediamatters.org/tucker-carlson/trumps-south-africa-tweet-tucker-carlson-has-turned-white-nationalist-narrative
https://africacheck.org/sites/default/files/Final-Report-Committee-of-Inquiry-Farm-Attacks-July-2003.pdf
https://africasacountry.com/2018/05/flight-of-the-boers
https://www.news24.com/News24/afriforums-own-farm-murder-stats-dont-support-their-claims-20180507
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-03-15/dutton-wants-australia-to-help-white-south-african-farmers/9550050
https://www.news24.com/news24/opinions/analysis/donald-trumps-sa-tweet-how-he-got-the-message-20180823
https://theconversation.com/peter-duttons-fast-track-for-white-south-african-farmers-is-a-throwback-to-a-long-racist-history-93476
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/mar/22/south-africa-risks-food-shortages-if-white-farmers-go-to-australia-nationals-mp-says
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/mar/27/dutton-should-prioritise-refugees-on-nauru-not-white-south-africans-unhcr-says
https://www.sabcnews.com/sabcnews/ramaphosa-hits-back-at-donald-trump-on-land-tweet/
https://www.parliament.gov.za/storage/app/media/Acts/2024/Act_13_of_2024_Expropriation_Act_2024.pdf
https://www.enca.com/videos/exclusive-interview-frontrunner-become-us-ambassador-sa

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They Got What They Wanted Feb 20, 2025

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"They got what they wanted." Those were the words of Don Logan after a February 11, 2025 meeting of the Scottsdale, Arizona city council. Twenty-one years after Dennis Mahon tried to murder Logan with a package bomb, the city of Scottsdale finished what the klansman started: they closed the city's diversity office.

Sources:

https://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/news/scottsdale-to-gut-diversity-office-trump-anti-dei-fervor-21197066

https://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/news/arizona-strip-club-owners-troubles-started-with-bad-loan-11311674

https://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/news/to-serve-and-humiliate-6422314

https://www.scottsdale.org/city_news/new-council-whisperer-saddles-up-at-city-hall/article_06f75e0a-d12c-11ef-a528-b706d0d1dc9d.html

https://www.scottsdale.org/city_news/mayoral-candidates-face-final-exam/article_58c526d4-880e-11ef-a093-a77b3f945d6e.html

https://www.scottsdale.org/city_news/protests-fly-as-scottsdale-defunds-dei/article_6a0be9a2-eb0d-11ef-8425-27ebca019701.html

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/26/us/politics/trump-fake-electors-emails.html

https://www.newsweek.com/strip-club-sued-allegedly-drugging-patrons-stealing-credit-cards-1883758

https://www.azfamily.com/2025/02/12/scottsdale-city-council-votes-end-programs-involving-dei/

https://www.forbes.com/sites/dougmelville/2025/01/29/costco-double-downed-on-dei-then-19-attorneys-general-warned-them-to-stop/

https://content.govdelivery.com/attachments/IACIO/2025/01/27/file_attachments/3144563/FINAL%20Costco%20Lettet%20%281%29.pdf

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/costco-dei-policy-board-statement-shareholder-meeting-vote/

https://s201.q4cdn.com/287523651/files/doc_financials/2024/ar/FY24-Proxy-Statement.pdf

https://corpgov.law.harvard.edu/2024/04/11/the-shareholder-activism-of-anti-discrimination-proponents/

https://d18rn0p25nwr6d.cloudfront.net/CIK-0000320193/ebbd88bb-cc8f-4e1e-8d5e-a52f8f780b94.pdf

https://www.shrm.org/topics-tools/employment-law-compliance/what-dei-executive-orders-mean-employee-resource-groups

https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/bremerton-shipyard-worker-affinity-groups-end-after-trump-dei-orders/

https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/scottsdale/2025/02/12/scottsdale-scraps-dei-programs/78427835007/

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/arizona-protesters-mistake-busload-of-ymca-campers-for-immigrant-children/

https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2023/9/28/dershowitz-appeals-sanction/

https://www.abqjournal.com/news/state/article_32b14df8-edf0-5e98-b6fa-8875b1101624.html

https://www.kawc.org/elections-2020/2021-08-25/attorney-for-arizona-election-audit-firm-defends-concealing-records

https://www.democracydocket.com/cases/arizona-mohave-county-hand-count-challenge/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2025/02/06/dei-gop-segregation

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/4871827/united-states-v-mahon/

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An Accidental Nazi Rally Feb 13, 2025

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In 2017, an anti-Muslim nonprofit crowd-sourced the organization of a nationwide series of rallies. Many of the people who stepped up to help turned out to be well known white supremacists.

Sources:
https://www.oregonlive.com/portland/2017/05/portland_suspect_in_2_slayings.html
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/may/27/portland-double-murder-white-supremacist-muslim-hate-speech
https://islamophobia.org/special-reports/the-hate-that-act-for-america-wrought/
https://islamophobia.org/islamophobic-organizations/act-for-america/
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/davidnoriega/meet-the-charming-terrifying-face-of-the-anti-islam-lobby
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/03/americas-most-anti-muslim-activist-is-welcome-at-the-white-house/520323/
https://politicalresearch.org/2018/03/01/profile-on-the-right-act-for-america
https://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/08/us/08gabriel.html?pagewanted=all
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/maher-season-premiere-inc_b_168972
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/iobsessioni-stars-have-le_b_126693
https://jewishstandard.timesofisrael.com/movie-to-marshal-support-for-college-israel-advocacy/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/virginia-politics/ed-gillespie-declines-to-denounce-endorsement-from-anti-muslim-activist/2017/06/09/8a16a45c-4d28-11e7-bc1b-fddbd8359dee_story.html
https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2024/03/gay-trumper-almost-got-hired-by-the-gop-but-it-got-called-off-what-happened/
https://www.opb.org/news/article/portland-trimet-stabbing-trial-micah-fletcher-survivor-testifies/
https://www.opb.org/news/article/portland-prosecutors-max-stabbing-trial-call-eyewitnesses-killings/
https://www.reed.edu/reed-magazine/in-memoriam/obituaries/2017/taliesin-namkai-meche-2016.html
https://newlinesmag.com/reportage/the-target-of-a-hate-crime-she-was-labeled-as-a-witness/
Isabelle Canaan, In Bad Faith: Anti-Sharia Laws, the Constitution, and the Limits of Religious Freedom, 21 U. Md. L.J. Race Relig. Gender & Class 248 (2021). Available at: https://digitalcommons.law.umaryland.edu/rrgc/vol21/iss2/3
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https://www.warren.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/letter_to_mrpetehegseth.pdf
https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-capitol-brawl-white-nationalist-sentenced-20190703-story.html
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2017/05/nathan-damigo-punching-woman-berkeley-white-nationalism/
https://unicornriot.ninja/2017/neo-nazi-william-planer-arrested-vandalizing-synagogue/
https://www.indystar.com/story/news/2017/06/10/emotions-run-high-march-against-sharia/386607001/
https://accollective.noblogs.org/post/2021/11/10/allison-richard-jack-peirce-iv/
https://www.splcenter.org/resources/hate-watch/family-research-councils-anti-splc-campaign-promoting-anti-semitic-publication/
https://www.splcenter.org/resources/hate-watch/neo-nazi-billy-roper-organizing-act-americas-march-against-sharia-arkansas/
https://www.splcenter.org/resources/hate-watch/following-trump-appointments-anti-muslim-act-america-may-see-growing-influence/

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(Maybe Don't) Read Siege - (It Could Happen Here Bonus) Feb 07, 2025

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Molly talks to Spencer Sunshine about his book, Neo-Nazi Terrorism and Countercultural Fascism: The Origins and Afterlife of James Mason’s Siege. Sunshine's book explores the history of Siege, the book that is today's nazi terrorist's bible.

https://www.routledge.com/Neo-Nazi-Terrorism-and-Countercultural-Fascism-The-Origins-and-Afterlife-of-James-Masons-Siege/Sunshine/p/book/9780367190606

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A Short-Lived Pardon Feb 06, 2025

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In January of 2025, Matthew Huttle was one of nearly 1600 people to receive a pardon from Donald Trump for his participation in the January 6, 2021 riot. Less than a week later, he was dead - shot and killed in an altercation with a sheriff's deputy during a traffic stop in Indiana.

Sources:

https://www.npr.org/2021/02/09/965472049/the-capitol-siege-the-arrested-and-their-stories

https://www.shu.edu/news/a-demographic-and-legal-profile-of-january-6-prosecutions.html

https://data.mendeley.com/datasets/tzm3576zdg/1/files/12dd7a26-cc10-4844-b141-05ee077ea97f

https://www.lawfaremedia.org/article/the-high-water-mark-of-the-jan.-6-prosecutions

https://www.indystar.com/story/news/crime/2025/01/31/trump-pardon-jan-6-indiana-man-shot-matthew-huttle-pulled-over-speeding-jasper-county/78022270007/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3q5nK0oUyXE&ab_channel=CBSChicago

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/27/us/politics/jan-6-rioter-shot-indiana-traffic-stop.html

https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/p1828.pdf

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/66637875/united-states-v-huttle/

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/66637874/united-states-v-huttle/

Belew, Kathleen. Bring the War Home : The White Power Movement and Paramilitary America. Harvard University Press, 2018.

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Revisionist History Riverboat Cruise: Curtis Maynard, Pt .1 Jan 23, 2025

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In 2010, a rising star in the small world of holocaust denial blogging murdered his ex-wife and then took his own life. This first chapter of his story follows his path from a troubled career as a registered nurse to his growing fame as a white supremacist blogger.

Sources:

https://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/article/Lawyer-Lake-Jackson-murder-suicide-followed-1710794.php

http://www.thenation.com/article/arrows-war

https://www.splcenter.org/resources/extremist-files/americas-promise-ministries/

https://www.reaganlibrary.gov/archives/speech/proclamation-5555-national-hungarian-freedom-fighters-day-1986

https://library.hungaricana.hu/en/view/Szittyakurt_USAHUN_1986/?pg=39&layout=s

https://www.bocskairadio.org/en/an-interview-with-akos-l-nagy-president-of-the-american-hungarian-federation/

Katalin Hasulyó-Pintz. Doctoral dissertation, Identity Preservation and Diaspora Relations in the USA: the Hungarian Community of New Brunswick, New Jersey. Eötvös Loránd University, Budapest 2020

https://collections.ushmm.org/oh_findingaids/RG-50.573.0005_tcn_en.pdf

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1465015471074263044.html

https://www.yadvashem.org/docs/international-commission-on-romania-holocaust.html

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The Co-Conspirators: Dennis Mahon, Pt. 5 Jan 16, 2025

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This is the end of Dennis Mahon's story. In 2012, he was convicted for building the bomb that went off in the hands of Scottsdale, Arizona's director of Diversity & Dialogue in 2004. In the eyes of the law, Dennis and Dennis alone is guilty in that case... but the investigation leaves a lot of unanswered questions about his co-conspirators.

Sources:

https://jeffmaysh.substack.com/p/how-an-undercover-exotic-dancer-captured

https://www.upi.com/Archives/1992/08/31/Charges-against-Geraldo-Rivera-dropped/1010715233600/

https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2015/05/20/chaos-compound

https://journaltimes.com/news/national/police-chief-blames-rivera-for-fracas/article_8fadd613-527c-5c88-aa56-d4098045a0bd.html

https://www.justice.gov/archive/usao/mow/news2010/joos.conv.htm

https://www.aol.com/suspect-still-wanted-30-years-090827741.html

https://web.archive.org/web/20130323064622/http://www.journalgazette.net/article/20090626/LOCAL/306269980/1002/LOCAL

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/30527442/united-states-v-joos/

https://www.upi.com/Archives/1987/10/01/Coeur-dAlene-bombing-suspects-arraigned/1813560059200

https://buffalonews.com/article_168a62c8-b04b-580e-b169-48333e56a23b.html

https://www.nytimes.com/1979/10/11/archives/2-in-nationalist-party-seized-in-plot-to-bomb-an-elementary-school.html

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/13838089/gerhardt-v-lazaroff/

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/4871827/united-states-v-mahon/

Gumbel, Andrew and Charles, Roger. Oklahoma City: What the Investigation Missed and Why it Still Matters. William Morrow, 2012

Ronson, Jon. “The Debutante.” Audible Originals, 2023

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